I breathed poison fumes without knowing it welding... Remove The Fume rescued me!

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We all did dumb things when we were young right? Especially tig welding, I was so focused on learning, I didn't have anyone to give me a heads up about safety precautions, or things to be aware of. So today I'm making this episode to not only get people to be aware of this subject like I wish someone did when I was young, but to also show some ways to take care of this problem, and keep you welding for years to come. Grab a coffee, let's hang!
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@PacificArcTigWelding Жыл бұрын

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@drewdempsey2038 Жыл бұрын

So one thing to keep in mind: The Respiratory Protection standard, paragraph 29 CFR 1910.134(g)(1)(i)(A), states that respirators shall not be worn when facial hair comes between the sealing surface of the facepiece and the face or that interferes with valve function. This is a requirement at the Shipyard I work at here in the US. Something I would look into for anyone planning on using this style as opposed to the papr welding hood

@patrickmorgan6163 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this video. I was a welding instructor for seven years and a welder fabricator for thirty one years. After I retired for a couple of years I noticed that I had blood in my urine. After a CAT scan it was discovered that I had a large cancerous tumor on my left kidney. When I told the doctor what type of work I did he was not surprised. I welded SS, aluminum, and a lot of 6010/7018 pipe welding over the years. I didn't start wearing a respirator under the hood until late in the game. I have survived for eight years since the kidney was removed. Get the best respirator you can find and wear it every time you weld.

@captainrutabeggacrossout8482 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm new in the industry and bought a 3m respirator for that reason. Any tips for wearing safety glasses with a respirator? I find it difficult to know how to wear them.

@jeffgood6441 Жыл бұрын

Sorry to hear that man yea my one buddy just lost the battle to the big c i think it was all the brake work he did and all the dust I was his welder idk cancer is just weird thing people who don't even smoke get it he didnt smoke nothing brakes is the only thing I can think of but keep up the good fight man and thank you for the wise advice

@blickster_4568 Жыл бұрын

@@jeffgood6441 car brakes?

@alexisd-m3802 Жыл бұрын

@Captain Rutabegga Crossout I've tried all the 3m half mask and none fit perfectly with glasses, sometimes what i will do is grind my safety glasses around the nose so it fit flush against the mask. But after a while i got tired and bought a 3m adflow and its the best thing

@privateassman8839 4 ай бұрын

@@alexisd-m3802 get a lincoln respirator. They only take p100 filters, but the face cup is so much nicer.

@Justforfun-ek7et Жыл бұрын

PSA, welding fumes are a silent killer. I’ve always heard this from older welders, “you don’t see many older welders”

@EEF2077 Жыл бұрын

One of the first things I told my job was I would not weld without a ventilator, fan, and a fume extractor. Luckily they took my word to heart and got me all three.

@fish4fun354 Жыл бұрын

I've been telling my job like 2 years to improve the ventilation and they don't care.

@WeberMachineWorks 3 ай бұрын

that is great to hear i would say the same thing

@JSaltyfabricator Жыл бұрын

Yup! My favorite piece of kit is my 3M PAPR. Pricey, but there is really no substitute for health.

@YAH_ONLY 5 ай бұрын

Do you have a link? I start welding school soon

@gnarlock3927 Жыл бұрын

This is no joke! After just a couple years of production on stainless and superalloys even with decent fume extraction, here we are, visiting doctors and hospitals..

@ChutneyGames Жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this video, I had a friend back in HS who loved to weld but was welding a lot without the fumes being extracted properly and ended up in a coma for two months. He lost all his muscle mass at the hospital and went from a formally really good driver to pretty spaced out. You could tell it affected him mentally. It was a really sad situation I hope nobody else has to go through that and takes precautions.

@lawrencejones5640 Жыл бұрын

This is quite literally the only time I've ever watched an ad and been cool with it

@gregwilkins7649 Жыл бұрын

That's an awesome looking unit. Glad you are keeping safety a priority in your home shop.

@DIYDriven 27 күн бұрын

Great atmosphere with the lighting

@PacificArcTigWelding 27 күн бұрын

I appreciate that so much! A lot of fun learning how to use it all for filming, thanks for watching the episode!

@hardknoxblount Жыл бұрын

I wish someone made an affordable home shop fume extractor. I'm in the process of making my own out of an inline duct fan and some aluminum ducting, but it would be nice to have an off-the-shelf solution that didn't cost thousands of dollars.

@plymoventindustrialna9456 Жыл бұрын

Usually we see home shops opting for Portable High Vacuum (PHV) units unless their active weld time is extremely high, the cost of a PHV is much less compared to the larger mobile units, though you'll have to check if the PHV filters are suitable to what you're welding

@ashes2ashes01 Жыл бұрын

lincoln has a smaller unit for about 1400$, still a bit pricey in my opinion but it does look nice

@9ijnht5rdx Жыл бұрын

I use a air blower 8" with expandable tube on suction end.

@timothyrouse2853 Жыл бұрын

i bought a wood dust extractor added a few tubes ect find them fairly cheap mine cost all up a round 600 aud

@williamvannest4692 Жыл бұрын

Hey Dusty , Thank you so much for going over this Topic. ive been welding sense 1984 i was tig welding in my shop and had mask seal ring go bad on my mask and got metal fever about three hours later my chest was on fire it was the worst feeling ever and you cant breathe it took a week to get back to normal yea it was bad !!!!!!!!! I bought the lincoln viking 3250d papr air purifying respirator welding helmet also added a fume extractor to the shop thanks again dusty for going over this !!!!!!! safety safety safety

@Hiraeth90 Жыл бұрын

Love the info!!!! I will also be looking into something like this!!! I primarily work with stainless, so it’s good to know! Funny thing is I’m watching this while waiting for lung surgery 😂😂😂 (not caused by welding) but the whole experience has me much more cautious on welding safety! Thanks dusty!

@cec2469 Жыл бұрын

Really appreciate that video, here in Italy there's not a minimum culture of safety,all think that if you don't see fumes they aren't harmful... Where I work I'm the only who wear a respirator mask (that I bought myself)and use the fumes extractor. Needs more videos like this greetings from Italy 👋👋

@jamesphilemon8010 Жыл бұрын

For those curious: ABEK1 filters are the ones that handle gases and vapours (including Hydrogen Fluoride and Formaldehyde). You can attach particulate filters (P2/P100 etc.) on top of them to handle airborne hazards produced by welding.

@nistsuas Жыл бұрын

Where do you find the P100 attachments? And how would this fair against 3M’s 60926 multi-gas that’s also P100? Is it better with inorganic vapors? I currently where 60923s, but I think I should switch to the ABEK1 or 60926.

@jamesphilemon8010 Жыл бұрын

@@nistsuas Definitely get the 60926. That's the all-in-one version of what I use, but with better particulate filter (I've only got the P2 filter, model no. 5925, that goes over the top of my ABEK1 filters). I can't find any P100 filters that are just the filter that attaches on top.

@ZacharyBusenbark 10 ай бұрын

How do u get them to fit u see the welding mask

@ZacharyBusenbark 10 ай бұрын

I hate the Miller one because I know it’s not getting the oxides, but I can’t get the 3m respirator to fit under my helmet

@dpo1867 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting it out there Dusty. When you get older, and a wee bit wiser I hope, you learn you can't take back the years of just plain crazy stuff we did on the job regarding stuff, that was just well how can I say, was Nasty a$$ stuff to breathe in or have all over ya. Your family will luv ya for kicking around longer and staying in good health. Cheers

@davescott3027 Жыл бұрын

Times changed. The older guys taught me about safety when I worked there as a youngster. And the owner was more involved in our health. Now it’s all gone up in tire smoke

@erykaldo2l270 Жыл бұрын

Well, perfect timing, just when I was wondering why I had trouble breathing after whole day of tig welding stainless steel 😅 I though that it was safe because it didnt produce any king of smoke, good thing that I learned it was false pretty soon in my welding journey. Thanks as always Dusty!

@WeberMachineWorks 3 ай бұрын

u sure are lucky a can lookout for yourself better now

@functionalvanconversion4284 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information 👍

@TOMTOM-nh3nl Жыл бұрын

Thank You

@LanceCampeau 5 ай бұрын

I have been working in the fume extraction industry for the last 15 years... A lot of welders are not aware of the hazards of *hexavalent chromium* fumes produced from welding stainless and galvanized. Its deadly and needs to be handled properly!!! Especially if you work in a smaller more confined work space.

@johnw4590 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing this knowledge! I'm sure to wear a respirator all the time from now on.

@pika166 Жыл бұрын

At my work we use Optrel Swiss Air. It's awesome!

@HaasGrotesk 11 ай бұрын

This is not an issue only with stainless steel. Almost all metals have this problem so you should wear protection when welding overall.

@WeberMachineWorks 3 ай бұрын

your dam right bro

@larrymoore5394 Жыл бұрын

Thanks LARRYMOORE

@udntevenknow Жыл бұрын

Dude you're not the only one, I almost fell out on galvanized steel like 10 years ago

@andrewdegozaru74 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering about the ventilation with your setup and exposure levels to toxins. I'm relieved to know that you're conscious about the risks and actively manage them.

@mikesilvestri5651 Жыл бұрын

Yay first like! Hope all is well dusty! 🤘

@TheArctictern Жыл бұрын

Hey Dusty! Great video! thanks for the heads up! Hey can you talk about using magnets to hold stuff together and how it effects the arc? I have noticed how the arc is different when welding steel together and using magnets to hold the corner in place. Can you explain when and when not to use them? Thanks!

@2424DMC Жыл бұрын

As a freelance welder who has to supply all of my own equipment, I always have respirators and fans around to keep my air as clean as I can. If I find myself in a confined space use a fan to push air in, and another to push air out. And also the miller LPR100 is a really nice snd affordable respirator.

@KGRICK1 8 ай бұрын

nothing short of an SCBA will protect you.

@WeberMachineWorks 3 ай бұрын

Thank you thank you for saying it and ultra ultra (nano)fine particles.Super toxic but gives us super powers.we really need to be aware of the the dangers and protect ourselves. welders and machinist don't get paid enough.

@ChasingPerfection Жыл бұрын

I spent a few hours welding a stainless downpipe for my car. Definitely got f'd up from it. Felt mentally a bit out of it and had a metallic taste in my mouth for about a week. Since then I've worn a GVS respirator anytime I weld or grind.

@Killergaming-yv9bm Жыл бұрын

I noticed this and been welding lest than a year and noticed black stuff in my noise and Lungs were irritated

@hdrenginedevelopment7507 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I did not know stainless welding was that hazardous. I always weld outdoors, but still feel a little off after a day of working on a project. I always try to use a respirator for grinding tungsten, but looks like I'll just wear it for everything on fabrication days.

@KGRICK1 8 ай бұрын

it's what you don't feel that will kill you, ask me how i know.

@Jimo225 4 ай бұрын

what sympoms you having? what can you do about it? @@KGRICK1

@wcmwfab935 Жыл бұрын

yes a fume extractor would be great

@jean-lucbolduc8682 Жыл бұрын

Did you select the 10ft arm or 7ft ? Thanks for your great advice on Tig welding.

@1stdraft611 Жыл бұрын

I just left a company because they had very poor ventilation. I was getting light-headed welding stainless steel.

@w46try7 Жыл бұрын

Good video. Little advice: turn up the lights for a video, especially so we can really see that equipment that those nice folks loaned/gave you, that they want folks to SEE. Just my take is all. Thanks

@cheerscob9443 Жыл бұрын

What are your thoughts on the adflow helmets or any filtered helmets in regards to this subject mate ive been welding stainless for 10 years and only have recently started to use the adflow helmet religiously to try combat this situation. would you recommend running with the helmet set up or purchasing a extraction system or even both thanks in advance mate !

@srck4035 Жыл бұрын

Man I worked for a company that didn't even had fume extraction for any type of welding

@andyb7754 Жыл бұрын

Safety first! I had a problem with my first auto darkening helmet with external adjustments. I was welding for quite a while and didn't realize I bumped the control until I looked around with the helmet up and everything was red!! Burned my eyes. Junked that helmet and bought a good one. Safety first! Thanks for the video, looks like a very nice, useable product.

@Bakanelli Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Can you please clarify what exactly do you mean by “I bumped the control until I looked around with the helmet up”. I also just replaced my Chinese helmet with 9002NC by 3M

@andyb7754 Жыл бұрын

@@Bakanelli On the side of my first helmet there was a "shade" control that went from grind-9 to 11 or 13 (can't remember). I was moving around and my fat head bumped the cart I was building causing the shade to lighten up (which I didn't realize until I started to see red. I pulled the helmet off and the garage was all red. Looked at the control and realized what happened! It cleared up after a few days. I then bought a Lincoln 3350 and have been very, very satisfied with how it works. No green screen and it's fast and clear.

@Bakanelli Жыл бұрын

@@andyb7754 Thanks for clarification, that sounds really scary I’m glad you’re OK. Anyways I read the instructions of my new helmet and they say even if the helmet doesn’t work (broken or turned off or whatever) = stuck on shade 3, welder is still protected from all electromagnetic frequencies (UV, IR…) so that’s good to know

@sawyercustom Жыл бұрын

Does Chrome Molly have the same issues?

@eveltto3522 Жыл бұрын

you should come Cleveland because here is now worldskills competition of welding and metal structure

@YAH_ONLY 5 ай бұрын

Any links to recommended respirators? I start welding school soon. -Thanks!

@salvadortapia3851 Жыл бұрын

I have that welding helmet works good for tig🤙

@chrisroberts3963 Жыл бұрын

How many 240v sockets do you have in your shop? I’m planning a 20’ by 20’ shop in my new garage.

@timlong1462 Жыл бұрын

So this is primarily concern for stainless and aluminum, I've searched but can't find definitive info about mild steel. I still have a homemade fume extractor, but I do weld in a relatively small space. It's not my day job so not much exposure, but I also want to be really careful.

@granite676 Жыл бұрын

When I went to college as an apprentice they didn't even have extraction in the shop , mig tig stick gas 😲 different now but back then (early eighties) 🙄😟

@joecloonan3218 8 ай бұрын

What about welding aluminum rhs mig? I've been welding gates and got sick a few times wondering if it's the fumes I'm breathing in?

@omegaohms78 3 ай бұрын

i been welding for ten years it caught up to me im getting sick but i love welding. like a year ago my company stop cleaning the tubes i weld i started to get sick from the fumes i told them it was getting me sick so they offered me a mask but it isnt the metal its that black greasy stuff it has weird smell it makes my stomach hurt with heavy breathing and dizzy. all i can do is were the mask they offer. it was better when they cleaned it cause i was ok for the first 9 years. i dont want to loose my job because the owner is being cheap i just wish it went back the way it was. and yes that smell is very toxic any welder knows this.

@alanbrookhart3581 Жыл бұрын

I worked with SS and CR6 was taken very seriously. Be cautious while grinding and sanding even if there isn’t visible sparks or gasses. But all welding on all metals produce harmful off gasses that should be taken into consideration with prolonged exposure.

@WeberMachineWorks 3 ай бұрын

and any grinding

@CD-hc5ds 11 ай бұрын

Is this for any welding, or just stainless?

@TubeScavenger Жыл бұрын

I was going to say get a fume hood or an air scubber but I see that company has already sent you one.

@billshuey7422 8 ай бұрын

The first thing I did was build a fume extractor after building my welding table

@koaoi9172 Жыл бұрын

cool

@drewdempsey2038 Жыл бұрын

@nistsuas Жыл бұрын

Ya, I started shaving to a goatee to get the seal just in line

@AverageHouseHusband Жыл бұрын

I'm one of those dumb guys that built an extraction set up years ago and hasn't used a respirator since... With the exception of flux or stick welding galvanized.

@fuzznut25 Жыл бұрын

I think that industry leaders kept that shit under the radar as to keep production high in facilities. Until it was too late… in the power industry they just started hitting hexchrome hard like 2 years ago. I’m thinking of making a DIY fume extractor. I don’t weld much Ss but when I do I try to have a fan and all.

@PacificArcTigWelding Жыл бұрын

Interesting right? I had absolutely no clue until I did the research for myself. Happy I came across it back in the day. Great to hear you are getting something set up for yourself as well! Have a blast🔥

@WeberMachineWorks 3 ай бұрын

right.true that. i was thinking the samething

@job38four10 6 ай бұрын

About the same price as an 3-M AdFlo welding helmet, but the AdFlow is even more portable......

@lukepodmore7810 Жыл бұрын

If your looking for the best protection get an air fed helmet I suffer with asthma and fumes aswell as grinding play havoc with my asthma. Look after your lungs chaps

@valanshard2105 Жыл бұрын

Is there a smaller/cheaper version? I'm trying to set up a tiny collapsible welding station in my garage

@rniejx4219 Жыл бұрын

For a home shop, use the harbor freight 8" blower with a flexible tube to suck the air away, then either run it into a filtration box made from plywood and caulked up tight at the seams, or dump it outside your area. Fume extractors are always extremely expensive for a home shop guy, because they are bulky to ship, low volume to produce, and tend to come with legal certifications that impact price greatly, and are aimed at industrial sales.

@wordtoyourmothership Жыл бұрын

Could have gotten a speedglas g5-01 vc and had extra money for beer for that price.

@taylor2105 Жыл бұрын

This is clearly a paid promotion. However, I've wanted one of these for at work for a long time now. I'll definitely be looking into it and trying to get the boss to buy one for our welding bay

@nistsuas Жыл бұрын

Would someone know if ABEK1, 2 or 3 respirator filters is better than 60926 multi-gas respirator filters (after the ABEK cartridge has P100 attachment)?

@nistsuas Жыл бұрын

There was also these 3M™ LifeASSURE™ PDA Series Filter Capsule PDA010C01AAG1 that were insane expensive, but went down to .1 micron when traditional P100 protects down to .3 micron. It needs weird adapters too

@nistsuas Жыл бұрын

This info is also from a different comment on the video recommending ABEK1 from formaldehyde and hydrogen fluoride among other gases

@juicyj813 Ай бұрын

And now I see this video!!!! I've been welding for about a week and nose is feeling weird. After I'm done my nose feels and I smell burnt tire or something 😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

@jessehalfacre6543 Жыл бұрын

How does it work for paint fumes?

@christiansanandres6096 Жыл бұрын

up for this, same concern paint fumes.. i've been welding a metal pipes with paint yay

@DonnyBwelding1 Жыл бұрын

Dusty ... I need honest advice ... I'm a single disabled father ..been welding 6 years ...certified n all .. I want a machine yo run a tig shop on ... I can afford the Everlat325ext ... but I feel like If I don't go miller ... I'm at a disadvantage Can everlast stack to miller????

@Lion-zb7fs Жыл бұрын

oh boy I'm a dead man.

@paulg3012 Жыл бұрын

Do you have to be careful to not suck shielding gas away?

@alanbrookhart3581 Жыл бұрын

Yes,but the machine doesn’t have to be that close. I position them about a foot in front of my work piece and about 1.5 feet up so it pulls the fumes away from my hood.

@freshpootube Жыл бұрын

Giving you free equipment is not customer service. It’s sponsorship.

@joell439 Жыл бұрын

👍😎👍

@michelangelofernandez2064 Жыл бұрын

Always wear a respirator.

@bobrat Жыл бұрын

Maybe if you're going to spend that kind of cash just get the power filtered helmets

@bdpgarage Жыл бұрын

Dusty, those pink pancakes filters are more for “dusty” stuff (see what I did there?😂) and particulates. For smoke and volatile fumes you should be using gas filters, ie charcoal filter like a 3M 6046.

@KingBigBabyJesus Жыл бұрын

Damn. So is that just for the stainless fumes? What about aluminum? I was under the impression the p100 was good for welding or is that just excluding stainless and galvanized, being fumes not smoke? I was stoked for the episode but little disappointed he just touched on stainless, better just order a fume extractor

@bdpgarage Жыл бұрын

@@KingBigBabyJesus anything smaller than particulates or stuff that is poisonous should use a finer filter that removes organic vapors. Those pancake filters are way better than a generic cloth dust mask (or no mask) but there are better options.

@hardknoxblount Жыл бұрын

The 2097 filters are fine for welding. I think you are referring to the 2091 filters which are basically just for dust.

@bdpgarage Жыл бұрын

@@hardknoxblount you’re right, I didn’t catch that 3M made different filters in that style. Just make sure to get the right one.

@KingBigBabyJesus Жыл бұрын

@@hardknoxblount Its the miller lpr-100 half mask not even a pancake, but an oblong filter. So it's just the equivalent to the 2091 I believe. I just looked it up and it says p100 filters with Nuisance OV Relief. They do make another lpr100 model with triangle filters that marketed for organic vapors. So sounds like there is some protection with my miller mask but I should look into something a little better when I'm not welding mild steel. Really appreciate the response

@joblessalex Жыл бұрын

$1400 for a vacuum and filter is crazy. That's for the little guy.... Maybe if they make a $300 one, otherwise imma just die instead. The price alone will kill me first.

@JV-hm4ik Жыл бұрын

... funny "taste" in your mouth is a good indicator to get a respirator or do something about ventilation. Also... I've encountered people taking ppe seriously when grinding but not when welding. I don't know how about behind big puddle but it's definetly not common knowledge. Specially not in central/eastern europe.

@DerDermin8tor Жыл бұрын

There are no old welders, think about that.

@severusvape4975 Жыл бұрын

welding over two decades my good sir you dont look older than 29 what is the magic serum

@patrickcoene3866 Жыл бұрын

Child labour 🤣

@user-vz4ir9yp8x Жыл бұрын

Ещё бы на русском, а то не всё понятно. А так спасибо большое. 👍

@danieleramponi6659 Жыл бұрын

Lol , asbestos

@carlosrojas5956 Жыл бұрын

THE SAME, THE SAME, THE SAME,

@Slouworker Жыл бұрын

P100 filters do not filter gasses, only particulate You need to use those rigid gas filters

@wombatillo Жыл бұрын

The Fe-Ni-Cr oxide particulates produced by welding are not really a gas even if they're so fine that they're suspended in air. They're a very fine mist of dust ranging from nano size to micron size. A P100 filter will capture a lot of it but the tiniest nanoscale particles probably need much better filtration than a pancake P100 can offer. Most likely would need advanced HEPA filters.

@wiredforstereo Жыл бұрын

You got "hexavalent chromium" right, but curiously you goofed on "pronunciation." You say "pro-NOUN-ciation" rather than "pro-NUN-ciation."

@Proxtor Жыл бұрын

Don't mock our canadian Westcoast islander accents. :P

@diecastgoblin Жыл бұрын

Blah

@bme-uk Жыл бұрын

More great advice on safety 🪙

@KGRICK1 8 ай бұрын

just to be clear, we would still not know of these hazards if we didn't have a fully funded EPA and the regulations they imposed, one more reason to value your vote .