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Dawid Does Tech Stuff

Dawid Does Tech Stuff

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@matthijsvandeweerd1415
@matthijsvandeweerd1415 20 күн бұрын
It's an rx 580 **2048sp**. Meaning that it's actually just an rx 570 with a small overclock. You can try the rx 570 drivers, or flashing the normal rx 570 BIOS onto it. EDIT: Forgot they used the same drivers for all polaris cards. Try flashing the normal 570 bios, and install drivers again. Could also be that windows tries and install older drivers.
@abhimaanmayadam5713
@abhimaanmayadam5713 20 күн бұрын
My bet is that windows installed old amd drivers and overwrote the ones Dawid installed. That seems to happen with the older amd cards.
@olnnn
@olnnn 20 күн бұрын
There aren't separate drivers for the 570 and 580, they use the same ones that are used for all amd polaris cards. It's possible the china specials like the rx 580 2048sp aren't supported properly in all standard drivers though idk
@steph_on_yt
@steph_on_yt 20 күн бұрын
The Adrenalin drivers are the same. My best guess is that MLLSE harvested the GPU core or memory from a card that had little-to-no life left to begin with and the symptoms of GPU death only began manifesting now. Dawid can test this by underclocking the core or memory. If it's stable at lower clocks, then the recycled components are just too degraded to run at stock settings.
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716
@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716 20 күн бұрын
Typical AMD bad gpu drivers yet again
@gravityomega9607
@gravityomega9607 20 күн бұрын
Also mostly of Aliexpress GPU sellers use refurbished mining graphics, with possibly 1 year of life left if you're lucky, I buy pc components from Aliexpress but never power supplies or graphics lol
@doolittle_
@doolittle_ 20 күн бұрын
"Low yield dirty bomb" is an all-time Dawid-ism.
@TotallySearch
@TotallySearch 20 күн бұрын
"Just use Ali Express computer parts bro, it's very cheap" The PC: 🔥🚒🚮
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 19 күн бұрын
ali express amazon it's all good and all the same he just goes with ali express because most people use amazon🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 18 күн бұрын
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue You are not wrong. 😂 AliExpress and Amazon Canada specifically have very similar stock. Most of the stuff on AliExpress is also on Amazon.
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 18 күн бұрын
@@DawidDoesTechStuff yeah it is basically the same just different names otherwise the same though AliExpress is a funnier name but the same basic products and prices🤣
@danon7860
@danon7860 20 күн бұрын
Next video: "Cooling processor with a hamster running in a wheel"
@anivibe7322
@anivibe7322 20 күн бұрын
I would watch this cooking show
@Boogie_the_cat
@Boogie_the_cat 20 күн бұрын
Hamsters are cool, so that would probably work if you gave the hamster a propeller hat, it would work at least as well as Intel stock cooler.
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 20 күн бұрын
😂
@marztein
@marztein 20 күн бұрын
didnt knew i need this video!
@soaphelps
@soaphelps 20 күн бұрын
mounting a peristaltic pump to the wheel would work or even a gear drive to run a fan would be cool looking also.
@rafaelguetter8741
@rafaelguetter8741 20 күн бұрын
I think i can explain the GPU shipping price, i live in brazil and here any itens bought that has a price higher than 50 dollars USD is taxed in 92% of the value, making us pay basically double the price. Some vendors noticed that and started putting some of the itens cost on the shipping, because the shipping isnt taxed
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 18 күн бұрын
Woah! That’s very interesting. Thanks for that insight. 👍
@GenilsonSA
@GenilsonSA 17 күн бұрын
Explicou perfeitamente
@connorwinter9257
@connorwinter9257 10 күн бұрын
It's so stupid too because the idea is to drive local economy by having things made in Brazil but NO ONE WANTS TO BUILD GRAPHICS CARDS IN BRAZIL
@cetinkaya_metal
@cetinkaya_metal 8 күн бұрын
Haha same, I live in Turkey We had a 10€ tax-free limit but now the limit is gone and tariff rates are indiscriminately high At least you can pay less taxes with the shipping price
@death-knight4222
@death-knight4222 20 күн бұрын
The PSU already telling that it's ASS 9:23 🤣🤣🤣
@the_wiki9408
@the_wiki9408 20 күн бұрын
Was just about to comment the same! Hilarious.
@janexiusjanek8586
@janexiusjanek8586 20 күн бұрын
Aigo ASS 600 W EPSU (Explosive Power supply Unit). Sounds about right.
@CptSnuggl
@CptSnuggl 20 күн бұрын
Underrated comment 😂
@joe--cool
@joe--cool 20 күн бұрын
The ASS power supply combined with a step up transformer might be causing half of the issues.
@Leonvolt28
@Leonvolt28 19 күн бұрын
It would have been nice if you could have done a bios update to see if that would get the ram working
@Stilkdog
@Stilkdog 20 күн бұрын
That 580 2048sp if I remember is a Chinese market mining card. It's just a 570 rebadged, more than likely you could look at replacing the bios on the card with a actual 570 and I'm sure it will work. Worth a shot.
@steph_on_yt
@steph_on_yt 20 күн бұрын
AMD's Adrenalin drivers officially recognize the card. Look at 14:13. I think the GPU hardware itself (which is definitely harvested from a dead 580) has just degraded to the point of not being able to run at stock clocks.
@BrunodeSouzaLino
@BrunodeSouzaLino 20 күн бұрын
@@steph_on_yt Of course they do. They check the vBIOS and the card tells you what it is, even if it's wrong. This is a known scam Chinese sellers play. They take older cards, modify the bios so the system sees it as a different card and even installs the correct drivers, but then you run into weird issues like system crashes, gpu crashes when you want to use all the VRAM, etc.
@bluedinnerbox1370
@bluedinnerbox1370 20 күн бұрын
It is not a mining GPU, just a special SKU for Chinese market. However, almost all the RX 5X0 card you can find in market are used for mining for extend period of time so probably the card is simply broken
@steph_on_yt
@steph_on_yt 20 күн бұрын
@@BrunodeSouzaLino but this isn't a scam card. The RX 580 2048SP is an official China-only SKU quietly launched by AMD in 2018, a year after the vanilla 570/580. It's the same as the 7900 GRE (before it launched globally) and the very 7500F shown in this video. Hell, even intel made a bunch of weird China-exclusive SKUs like the i5-12490F "Black Edition" which is basically an overclocked 12400F with more L3 cache. These one-off SKUs usually don't come in retail packaging and are destined for internet cafes.
@outtheredude
@outtheredude 20 күн бұрын
Could be worse. If it was an nVidia card, it would probably turn out to be something like a 9500GT, Biosed to be an RTX 2080.
@MoCheng123
@MoCheng123 20 күн бұрын
Chinese here, never heard of this MLLSE brand. Other than that, everything seems pretty common, I would skip aigo PSU, though
@Liminal.Headspace
@Liminal.Headspace 20 күн бұрын
How could have you not have heard of MLLSSE? They're an old and pretty established brand on AliExpress
@Tibiiah
@Tibiiah 20 күн бұрын
Funny that as a Brazilian i know mllse, they ship components to brazil to skip taxes, however, never heard anyone saying anything good of the brand
@shadi3993
@shadi3993 20 күн бұрын
hey brother looking on aliexpress for a 240mm aio cooler and found the aigo ac se do you know if its any good stuff in my country is very expensive and even shipping from websites like amazon proves more expensive than products in shops...
@earlemin
@earlemin 20 күн бұрын
​@@Tibiiah good to know mllse isn't worth it. I bought twice from soyo now and happy with both purchases, so that is worth a shot of you're looking for new hw.
@aleksazunjic9672
@aleksazunjic9672 20 күн бұрын
If you buy MLLSE cards, use their official store. Same goes for JieShuo etc ...
@oldbonniegamer938
@oldbonniegamer938 20 күн бұрын
I actually own a 5 7500F, it's pretty amazing entry-level AM5 CPU and definitely worth loosing a few Ghz and the iGPU for a cheaper price. It's sold in the Philippines.
@AlexHusTech
@AlexHusTech 20 күн бұрын
I did a AliExpress build with 7500F, great CPU, can easily OC it, made a vid of my build.
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 18 күн бұрын
I agree! It’s crazy good value for money. It’s a shame it isn’t available here.
@JDubb51317
@JDubb51317 20 күн бұрын
I’ve had the same problem with AMD cards. Windows installs the drivers at the same time, corrupting the AMD downloaded driver. Disable in device manager, and redownload through the AMD app, and it works. Don’t let windows update, or download the driver.
@alekpo2000
@alekpo2000 20 күн бұрын
yeah windows update breaks the adrenaline drivers and kills the app after some time
@betag24cn
@betag24cn 19 күн бұрын
in this particular case the problem is more reoated to that rx570 and gpu bios, surely is a mined to death gpu reconstructed to be a fake 580 i personally use amd gpus and never had what you describe but i buy new gpus, never mined gpus
@Samuel-ft9hq
@Samuel-ft9hq 19 күн бұрын
sold here in 4400+ cards from.aisurix.
@Samuel-ft9hq
@Samuel-ft9hq 19 күн бұрын
more likely pair with casing psu then the gpu become broken..
@Samuel-ft9hq
@Samuel-ft9hq 19 күн бұрын
ddu first..
@togiisuperheavytank
@togiisuperheavytank 20 күн бұрын
3:29 low yield dirty bomb sounds like all the PSU's i own
@tharimoose
@tharimoose 20 күн бұрын
That driver version error usually happens because Windows keep updating graphics drivers, Happened to my Old 580
@betag24cn
@betag24cn 19 күн бұрын
that does not explain why the other doesbt do the same it is more likely for being a 570 mined to dead modified via bios gpu
@Samuel-ft9hq
@Samuel-ft9hq 19 күн бұрын
sold 4400+ cards here and with 1 resell it on market place..likely pair with standard psu..
@Ve55el
@Ve55el 20 күн бұрын
Dawid...how the hell did you become one of my favorite KZfaqrs? The tech is jank, the projects are spit-balled, and you don't even know how to pronounce "w"! And yet, every video delights and I find your consistency truly inspiring!
@AnnaDoes
@AnnaDoes 20 күн бұрын
Well this is lovely ❤
@earlemin
@earlemin 20 күн бұрын
The channel is great because he says thiddy
@patrickwhelan874
@patrickwhelan874 20 күн бұрын
​@@AnnaDoesyou and Dawid should have a build off.. ye have a certain budget. Have 1 day to source your components.. then when they arrive have a build off and compare then tests
@TheRealDrae
@TheRealDrae 19 күн бұрын
I don't understand the bit about mispronouncing "w"...
@Ve55el
@Ve55el 19 күн бұрын
@@TheRealDrae just a dumb American joke about us spelling David with a v instead. Just being silly!
@sasiuru
@sasiuru 20 күн бұрын
14:39 Welcome To The Windows Update-hell with AMD drivers. Too often I have burnt my nerves after updating AMD drivers from AMD site, only Windows do a Windows thing and "updating" AMD drivers to WHQL Certified ones from Windows Updates.And those are ages old, and Adrenalin AMD Software will not work with them, due version mismatch. You need matching version of Adrenalin software - good luck to find it. :D And WHQL package doesn't contain AMD Software. I expect that el-cheapo AMD card to be some OEM version based and due that Windows like to be "helpful" and making your life fun...
@crusifficadus
@crusifficadus 20 күн бұрын
it can disabled through windows advanced system settings > hardware > device installation settings > no
@delancre5858
@delancre5858 20 күн бұрын
​​@@crusifficadus it may not work in this scenario: 1. Driver already was preloaded. 2. Gpu was crashing with reboot. So, after reboot, windows will totaly ignore "not install" setting and install older driver anyway. Or not. It's totally random. I found that most reliable way is thru DDU "prevent windows driver update" setting.
@chainsaw2010
@chainsaw2010 20 күн бұрын
Use Device manager to roll back to the new driver you just installed. It will do more then just roll back it will also mark the driver from window update to not be installed again preventing the issue from happing again.
@sayansameer
@sayansameer 20 күн бұрын
​@@delancre5858 I somehow got my 5600 XT to work after clearing Windows update cache, disabling the update driver policy, DDUing and reinstalling drivers
@gunturbayu6779
@gunturbayu6779 19 күн бұрын
Skill issue
@LM_Dodge
@LM_Dodge 20 күн бұрын
Dawid-Does-Explosive-Stuff worthy title
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 19 күн бұрын
you know you are in trouble when your computer is on drugs dude🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bepisman3161
@bepisman3161 20 күн бұрын
the snowman cooler from aliE does have a good reputation among forums
@janexiusjanek8586
@janexiusjanek8586 20 күн бұрын
they are solid. The power supply fan sucking the air in the opposite direction and lack of case fans don't help particularly.
@gorjy9610
@gorjy9610 20 күн бұрын
Coolers are fine but quality of fans isn't great. I still use one with aftermarket fan, 6 heatpipe version. But at time I bought that one nothing similar was available for that money, today you can get decent air cooler everywhere for similar money so I don't see point of getting them from AE anymore. But I saw $10 4 heatpipes cooler from time to time, I'll probably get one just to see how it handle 65W TDP CPUs, they still can be decent replacement for box coolers.
@tuskiestez148
@tuskiestez148 20 күн бұрын
You should do a video where you shop through Amazon Warehouse
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 19 күн бұрын
7500f f for fail🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@DawidDoesTechStuff
@DawidDoesTechStuff 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion! I’ll see what I can find. 👍
@moji3812
@moji3812 8 күн бұрын
​@@DawidDoesTechStuff👀
@no-replies
@no-replies 20 күн бұрын
That's actually a sweet looking case. Wish I would have looked at small cases before going full atx mid tower
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 19 күн бұрын
my ram usage is only 18% can you find me 4 sticks of ddr4 that ad up to 256 gb cause I want to get it down to 9%
@dhgodzilla1
@dhgodzilla1 20 күн бұрын
I would be willing to bet it was in the middle of Memory Training the very first time you Powered it On & if you just shut it off to connect the Display & Mouse/Keyboard than rebooted it was probly frozen in the state it was in because it did not have time to finish Memory Training, this can cause all kinds of issues. You are lucky the Motherboard wasn't Bricked. It posted when you added New RAM because it had to Re train the Memory.
@NOHEATED
@NOHEATED 20 күн бұрын
14:29 disable automatic drivers updates in the registry
@grenvenplays
@grenvenplays 20 күн бұрын
For $800 PC you got ripped off lol
@coryv5679
@coryv5679 10 күн бұрын
That is $800 CAD. In USD it is only $600.
@lenoirx
@lenoirx Күн бұрын
@@coryv5679 600 is still a ripoff
@slowlanegamer
@slowlanegamer 20 күн бұрын
Man its a good thing that you put that CMOS battery in there so you didn't spend hours tinkering with it trying to get things working 👀
@Starrky923
@Starrky923 20 күн бұрын
14:45 welcome to Windows AMD experience. You need to blacklist the driver in device manager or it will keep happening
@appsaucetech
@appsaucetech 11 күн бұрын
I've never had an issue with this before
@NightMotorcyclist
@NightMotorcyclist 20 күн бұрын
Thankfully US prices esp at local shops like Micro Center allow us to build something of quality for the same price or less...
@1010WouldBang
@1010WouldBang 15 күн бұрын
Start of the video reminds me of Christmas time as a little kid. You know shaking the wrapped presents guessing if it'll be clothes or not lol.
@NF276_
@NF276_ 20 күн бұрын
Balls
@NexonLAB
@NexonLAB 20 күн бұрын
hell yeah
@Azuuraas
@Azuuraas 20 күн бұрын
so true
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 20 күн бұрын
Nope
@VanadiumMC
@VanadiumMC 20 күн бұрын
100% My dude
@us249
@us249 20 күн бұрын
real
@Yuriel1981
@Yuriel1981 20 күн бұрын
Does Dawid or Anna choose the music, cause that build montage. Lol chefs kiss! Perfect.
@syberghost
@syberghost 20 күн бұрын
Gotta say though, I've bought all highly-rated premium parts through Amazon and Newegg before and wound up with two DOA parts, and dealing with ASUS customer support is a worse experience than most Aliexpress sellers.
@raptor_toes9852
@raptor_toes9852 20 күн бұрын
3:58 Listen to the slight Chuckle in your voice as you say $40 Canadian Dollars.. LOL.. Like you were impressed...Lol
@Matituus
@Matituus 20 күн бұрын
love the mustard PSU cable❤
@rmcdudmk212
@rmcdudmk212 20 күн бұрын
Right? They take me back to the 90s 😂
@MGK195
@MGK195 20 күн бұрын
the 7500f is available almost everywhere in the west. germany for example has them in retail for ~165€ and around the same in many different online stores.
@AlexHusTech
@AlexHusTech 20 күн бұрын
I'm in the UK but cheaper to import from Ali, got a 7700 for £130 during sales! Made a video to show it's not a scam lol
@FearThePegasus
@FearThePegasus 20 күн бұрын
We can't get it locally in NA. Only expensive imports.
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 20 күн бұрын
😮
@ffnbbq
@ffnbbq 20 күн бұрын
For anyone interested, this motherboard has a rather basic 5+2+2 VRM, so it's likely not able to be the backbone of say, a super budget 7950x or 7800x3D build. You're better off with the popular budget king Asrock B650M HDV/M.2, which seems able to handle just about any currently available AM5 processor.
@kasimirdenhertog3516
@kasimirdenhertog3516 20 күн бұрын
You might get the memory working by updating the BIOS. DDR5 support has been constantly updated on BIOSes, initially there was only a dozen or so kits you could run.
@Grmreeper100
@Grmreeper100 20 күн бұрын
Netac had a 1 in 2 failure rate in a 1 year period on their SSDs at my previos work place.
@ertugyigitgezici7634
@ertugyigitgezici7634 20 күн бұрын
very expensive for 256 GB too. Just get an original samsung for a tiny bit more
@alexisaudoin2272
@alexisaudoin2272 20 күн бұрын
In my experience the worst is KingFast (not KingSpec, these are actually good). I used to sell pre-builds with these at work and they ALL came back defective withing a year. It was so bad the supplier changed brands, which I never expected them to do.
@GLDragon93
@GLDragon93 20 күн бұрын
@@ertugyigitgezici7634 Best option imho is relying on Gen 3 drives pulled from OEM systems actually sold on ebay. Pretty cheap at 15€ for 256gb and 25-30€ for 512gb, mostly coming from HP but from Hynix, WD and sometimes Samsung.
@yotoprules9361
@yotoprules9361 20 күн бұрын
@@alexisaudoin2272 Same with a lot of Chinese SSDs, there are some good brands but majority are junk. Worst is ELSA were all of them arrived defective or on the brink of death lol. I have a Puskill drive that works, but sometimes it will just freeze and become completely unresponsive, Netac SSDs have worked fine for me aside from being very slow. Brands that have been good: Fanxiang (and any re-brands, that are manufactured by LDCEMS/Lingdechuang, so that includes, Fikwot, Ediloca, ASDK) this is my go-to brand for SSDs and the best I've personally used from a Chinese brand. Kingspec Kingbank Maxsun/Teclast Lexar Hikvision/Hiksemi Basically anything else I've used from a Chinese brand has been junk. ESPECIALLY ELSA. Do not buy ELSA SSDs under any circumstance.
@scherge
@scherge 20 күн бұрын
The irony of me seeing an Ali Express add right before this video is priceless.
@MrPruske
@MrPruske 20 күн бұрын
8:30 Oh looks like the handles fold down, cool
@Niels_F_Morrow
@Niels_F_Morrow 20 күн бұрын
I love your videos! The commentary, juxtapositions, combined with some simple engineering stuff is why I keep watching; chrome RAM, war crimes power supply, my PC is on drugs ---- extremely funny.
@4.0.4
@4.0.4 20 күн бұрын
Out of all components, I would not cheap out on the PSU. Maybe if I'm building a lot of PCs and a few office fires here and there are a calculated trade-off.
@LitteralBeans
@LitteralBeans 20 күн бұрын
I do love a good disaster, Dawid, you know me so well
@HUYI1
@HUYI1 20 күн бұрын
A GPU disaster, that thing was cheap no name crap 😂😂
@allenellisdewitt
@allenellisdewitt 20 күн бұрын
10:25 I was NOT expecting the case to be the worst part of this build.
@konga382
@konga382 19 күн бұрын
Have to imagine the complete lack of case fans and the fact that the PSU and CPU fans are facing each other and competing for the same air aren't helping with those temps.
@ChristmasCrustacean1
@ChristmasCrustacean1 20 күн бұрын
I had never before considered that Canada is 110V
@Nodicus
@Nodicus 20 күн бұрын
Yeah. North America is weird. Don't even ask about the metric system because it's half-assed in Canada and almost non-existent in USA
@josjamon
@josjamon 20 күн бұрын
@@Nodicus only some boomers still use the imperial system, and maybe people doing non important construction jobs; in the USA, the scientific and high tech industry (like NASA or whatever) use the metric system to avoid headaches and catastrophes.
@basshead.
@basshead. 20 күн бұрын
@@Nodicus Well there are two kinds of countries, those who use the metric system, and those who have put a man on the Moon.
@ravioli0239
@ravioli0239 20 күн бұрын
@@basshead.the americans who put a man on the moon used the metric system to do so.
@basshead.
@basshead. 20 күн бұрын
@@ravioli0239 The metric system wasn't a thing in 1969.
@ertugyigitgezici7634
@ertugyigitgezici7634 20 күн бұрын
You got scammed with the power supply and the cooler. same cooler is 6 dollars in choice section and the power supply is not real 650 watts
@g2fiora
@g2fiora 20 күн бұрын
My 6700XT also used to do the driver corruption thing (unless I restarted the system within seconds of the signal loss) but instead of it happening under load it would just do it randomly (and much less frequently tbf), often after alt tabbing and such. After some windows reinstalls and ram swaps it works completely fine (aside from weird flickering issues while playing media with hardware acceleration turned on), so it might be some kind of AMD bug that's just rare enough not to be caught by their driver team.
@caerxm
@caerxm 17 күн бұрын
i thought i was the only one with this problem because i searched for this problem and it seems no one has it. i really thought my 6700xt was going bad. after countless of hours and days of testing and finding the culprit, i narrowed down to 2 problems. first is the pcie power cable is loose (because i noticed a bit of burnt marks on the pin) or my psu decided to went into fail safe mode. second is overheating. even though my gpu temp is at 78C and hotspot at 100C. my vram is going way above 110C. so i had to re paste and replace thermal pads. right now it works again without crashing. tl;dr : sometimes after a crash, a popup always shows there is a problem with a driver even though the driver is fine.
@g2fiora
@g2fiora 17 күн бұрын
@@caerxm I don't think I've seen burn marks on the pins even if they did come slightly loose at times but I only have a 550W PSU so it might have to do something with that. Well, it might or it might not, since in my case it never just happened mid game regardless of how much power the CPU/GPU pulled, and I always had to either click on something in on the desktop or often simply alt+tab out of the game/some window to crash the system. My GPU temps also used to be very high (105+ degrees on the hotspot) because at first I only looked at the main temp reading which never even went above 80-ish, so I thought I could adjust the fan curve to make the card even more quiet. Since then I've tweaked that a bit and now my hotspot rarely even hits 90+ degrees and I also haven't had any crashes in a while so that might also be related, but again wouldn't it make sense then for the system to crash mid game while the temps were at their highest? Idk, I'm really not sure what's going on, but I'm not too bothered since it seems to be mostly okay for now.
@TronixGuy93
@TronixGuy93 20 күн бұрын
Connect the ram and gpu to another system. If they work there, then the auto settings in bios may pre-set incompatibly. You may need to bios change up or down or set it manually to get it to work, stock. Assembling thousands of PC's in my life has proven to me that there are sometimes strange unexplainable, intermittent even, incompatibilities between seemingly random components that should prima facie, just work out of the box.
@MLgaming805
@MLgaming805 20 күн бұрын
Dawid this is better then my i3-2350m god damn who would of thought i think i should try game on my trashpile laptop anyone else think i should bc it has amazing amd 7000 graphics
@akalish1
@akalish1 20 күн бұрын
I have a circa 2007 AMD Phenom II tricked out with a 1030 and 32gb of RAM that was a BEAST fresh out of college.... I dream of AliExpress trash pile gaming 😂
@MLgaming805
@MLgaming805 20 күн бұрын
@@akalish1 I also have a phenom pc with it's mighty gtx750ti and a massive 6gb ram
@akalish1
@akalish1 20 күн бұрын
@@MLgaming805 a mighty unit! Capable of many hours of gaming!
@MLgaming805
@MLgaming805 20 күн бұрын
@@akalish1 ye maybe Minecraft minimal settings
@akalish1
@akalish1 20 күн бұрын
@@MLgaming805 Dota II for the win!!!!!
@1Grainer1
@1Grainer1 20 күн бұрын
Dawid spittin' facts about ram slots, one sided clip ram slots are just so bad
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 19 күн бұрын
unrefined is the new cheapo parts level on quality🤣🤣
@1Grainer1
@1Grainer1 19 күн бұрын
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue cheapo parts? b450 strix gaming is using those, so asus is way more likely than gigabyte, so preference of company
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue
@SaraMorgan-ym6ue 19 күн бұрын
@@1Grainer1 I wasn't talking about the motherboard I was talking about the case buttons but ok child if you say so🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 oh and drinking gasoline is yummy🤣🤣🤣🤣
@1Grainer1
@1Grainer1 19 күн бұрын
@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue comment was about those ram slots, so i kinda assumed your comment was towards that damn, i hate smell of gasoline, wouldn't want to drink that 🤣🤣🤣
@baldertech
@baldertech 20 күн бұрын
the 7500F is actually available EVERYWHERE in europe, for example: Proshop, Alternate, Reichelt etc
@user-wu2pg5zh2r
@user-wu2pg5zh2r 6 күн бұрын
We over here at the PCP Insulfating Engineer's Club, PCPIC for short, we think you did a bang up job. Well done.
@Daniel-ul8kr
@Daniel-ul8kr 20 күн бұрын
MLLSE is an ASRock sub brand in china, the card is official (but likely B stock) and the problem is most likely software related. DDU, disable driver auto updates install the proper polaris driver (all polaris cards use the same drivers) you can even use nimez drivers if needed, could also be a bios issue but then you just swap the bios or reflash it. As for the ram, its very likely the system was doing memory training and you shut it down in the middle of doing that, luckily it didnt brick your motherboard or anything else but it would explain the memory failure. I doubt it'd be the chips since currently there are only 3 DDR5 IC manufacturers and they're samsung sk hynix and micron.
@purplegill10
@purplegill10 20 күн бұрын
Worst case, the TechPowerUp forums should easily be able to find it.
@ertugyigitgezici7634
@ertugyigitgezici7634 20 күн бұрын
its a harvested/dissected mining card. problem is the die and the memory.
@anohippo
@anohippo 20 күн бұрын
Hey Dawid, just so you know, the 7500f is available in Europe. It’s basically the standard recommendation for any budget am5 build right now. Nevertheless awesome video as always! Edit: Really suprised that it isn’t available in the US tbh. Edit 2: I just noticed that the "580" is actually showing as the 580 2048SP which I is a Chinese variant. It performs like a 570 but I’m not sure if it would run with the normal 580 drivers. Based on the video I guess it doesn’t though.
@AlexHusTech
@AlexHusTech 20 күн бұрын
Im in UK, but cheaper to import to Aliexpress, but deffo, 7500F is the meta for cheap AM5 builds.
@yotoprules9361
@yotoprules9361 20 күн бұрын
RX 580 2048SP will work with the standard AMD drivers, Dawid got a defective one though.
@gorjy9610
@gorjy9610 20 күн бұрын
It is but depending where you are it can still be cheaper to get it from AE. To me it was €50 cheaper at least. Yes, I lost warranty for that 25% "discount" but with CPUs warranty isn't something I care too much about.
@Samuel-ft9hq
@Samuel-ft9hq 19 күн бұрын
sold here 4400+ cards..
@TheSEMOMU
@TheSEMOMU 20 күн бұрын
I ordered A GPU on Aliexpress, SOYO RX5700XT 8GB Monarch Dragon. After dissasembly I notice board and components are new but the GPU core looks old, SOYO used to be a MotherBoard manufacturer so most of the parts are new and for that price I can't complain.
@EFRALINK
@EFRALINK 20 күн бұрын
Buen vídeo amigo !! Nos veremos este año en Computex??
@philjtephenson41
@philjtephenson41 20 күн бұрын
Time for a haircut Dawid....🤭
@togiisuperheavytank
@togiisuperheavytank 20 күн бұрын
nuh uh
@Madpiggaming
@Madpiggaming 20 күн бұрын
​@@togiisuperheavytankuh huh
@autresvoixx
@autresvoixx 20 күн бұрын
no.
@togiisuperheavytank
@togiisuperheavytank 20 күн бұрын
@@Madpiggaming nuh uh
@ranjitmandal1612
@ranjitmandal1612 20 күн бұрын
😂
@JimmyLad0420
@JimmyLad0420 20 күн бұрын
40 seconds no views? Dawid fell off
@a12_1
@a12_1 20 күн бұрын
cause it is long form and not a short
@juh-roon
@juh-roon 20 күн бұрын
These copy/paste YT reactions too.
@poeticsilence047
@poeticsilence047 20 күн бұрын
​@@juh-roonNothing beats the comments on Mr. Nightmare. Lol
@ivanvladimir0435
@ivanvladimir0435 20 күн бұрын
The braincells of those commenting this fell off
@Dracossaint
@Dracossaint 20 күн бұрын
I keep reading these. I honestly think these are bots trying to establish themselves as "real people".
@krissythecatboi
@krissythecatboi 20 күн бұрын
I had an RX 580 2048SP as well, and it was odd. Overall it was an okay GPU, except that the latest drivers straight up made all VR games crash in less than an hour of playing them. Reverting back to drivers from 2020 helped me, apparently some more recent ones were also fine. Probably not your problem, but sometimes those things are a bit weird. Replaced it with an Intel Arc A580 and had to struggle there with needing a new CPU with ReBAR as well, otherwise the performance was horrible. I'm just unlucky lol
@HIKKG
@HIKKG 20 күн бұрын
Hm... it's a pity you didn't try the "RdN,ID" community drivers for RX 580 2048SP, it would most likely solve the problem with VR games. It's also a shame you didn't try the open source project called "ReBarUEFI", which allows you to enable Resizable BAR on older PCs (even those with 2nd generation Intel Core CPUs - which is a 2011 CPU for a minute!)
@bfbunny
@bfbunny 9 күн бұрын
The fact that it is a 580 2048sp shouldn't be the main issue here. I had my 580 2048sp a few years back and had no big issues with it. What I think is happening is that the aliexpress RX580 was a retired mining card, which silicon had degraded enough for it to no longer be stable at stock clock speeds.
@iambuja
@iambuja 19 күн бұрын
Always enjoy your videos. Love the down to earth/casual style!
@aaronring4704
@aaronring4704 20 күн бұрын
I was dubious when I bought it, but I’ve had a KingSpec SSD running like a champ in my recycle bin MacBook Pro for nearly 18 months. I go Samsung for projects for other people, but I’m perfectly fine using KingSpec for my own computers!
@daviddouillet4138
@daviddouillet4138 20 күн бұрын
The driver issue is well known and documented, it's caused by stupid Windows wanting to upgrade your display drivers. Disable updated and uninstall all the recent auto updates and it should work.
@Dtr146
@Dtr146 20 күн бұрын
Believe it or not. The RX 580 is on its way out the door. You can only play some of the newer titles at like 30 FPS at 1080p. The only thing saving the 580 for being trashed right now is upscaling
@easyway5482
@easyway5482 20 күн бұрын
you know what ... much respect for actually buying the case for a stupid cost for shipping ... i think you are the 1st youtuber i see do that
@user-pj6ec7zk5b
@user-pj6ec7zk5b 17 күн бұрын
3:40 you want to catch fire
@brianmillington5024
@brianmillington5024 20 күн бұрын
Iv had 2 of these cards from Ali express. If you uninstall the drivers and let windows update install one, it works
@jasonyip5374
@jasonyip5374 13 күн бұрын
Hi, when I run into some of boot issues, I install the speaker on the motherboard. It should give some beep codes that can help to isolate the problem. Years ago all motherboards use to have speakers. Remember that single beep when your system is booting properly? I love your videos!
@captainslow_037
@captainslow_037 20 күн бұрын
fun fact: iirc aigo (the cooler brand here) was a sponsor for mercedes in f1 in the early 2010s
@potheadmason1472
@potheadmason1472 20 күн бұрын
I got a mllse rx 5500xt and have had zero problems works really good and got it on sale at the time for 70 bucks
@Motorboatasaurus
@Motorboatasaurus 6 күн бұрын
Honestly I really like that case aesthetically. Though the inability to hide the cables for proper management might be a deal breaker for me.
@peterhallbus1114
@peterhallbus1114 20 күн бұрын
The same cpu cooler can be found with 4 heatpipes for $5 more and it is pretty good, running a 120w cpu at full with better temps then what Dawid got here.
@machinainc5812
@machinainc5812 18 күн бұрын
I got a similar 580 from Ali. Mine is the white ELSA ones they were selling a couple months ago. The cooler looks exactly the same but mine is white. Thankfully my card seems to be working fine
@dabombinablemi6188
@dabombinablemi6188 20 күн бұрын
TBH I'd always be more worried about the heatpipes being soldered than how many there are. Quite a few large coolers from the early 2000's with a lot of heatpipes suck because they aren't (aka a waste of aluminium)
@thescouch
@thescouch 20 күн бұрын
Can't wait to see how your studio is going.
@brocksamson5786
@brocksamson5786 20 күн бұрын
The 70s porn music always gets me...😂
@NoseMain
@NoseMain 14 күн бұрын
it could be a bios modified GPU, take in count that it is the rx 580 2048sp which is usually a bios modified card for better mining. I compared your bios (which you showed in the video 17:36) to the supposed bios you should have and they look like they are the same version, however there could be a missing digital signature in the VBIOS since it is an off brand version of the rx 580 2048sp, so I could suggest to flash the bios into an official one and try if that works out. Nice video!
@tonycrabtree3416
@tonycrabtree3416 7 күн бұрын
That is a nice looking case.
@Rspsand07
@Rspsand07 20 күн бұрын
7500f is great. Got it for 160 cad during aliX spring sale no tax.
@mukkah
@mukkah 16 күн бұрын
3:46 wolf head image looks the same as one on my china glass bong. Wonder if it's from the same image file lmfao ^_^ ~a random canadian subscriber dude
@MrBalrogos
@MrBalrogos 6 күн бұрын
2:10 it is u can buy it in almost every shop, just checked its in the biggest PC online shops and its avaiable, 4 months ago i made pc for someone with this CPU and cheap am5 gigabyte mobo.
@Erdie5
@Erdie5 20 күн бұрын
Case? Good! Mobo? Good! CPU? Good! NVME? Good! Not sure what happened with the Netac ram, I've heard that's usually okay. The rest is e-waste (some of it possibly already was!)
@EinSwitzer
@EinSwitzer 20 күн бұрын
yep , i loved it , when my INTEL/AMD,ATi, was CROSSFIRING and legitimately assisting in framerate and output quality 1080p laptop 2014
@kaofeiwei84
@kaofeiwei84 20 күн бұрын
I believe front intake vent of the case is for the power supply
@GoetheNorris
@GoetheNorris 9 күн бұрын
My favourite Dawid-ism is the "Thiddy" percent cpu utilisation
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 20 күн бұрын
RX580's are cheap enough to almost give them away these days, although all these Chinese ones are the lesser 2048SP variety.
@TrusteftTech
@TrusteftTech 20 күн бұрын
I don't know if it is just me, but the way that the PSU blocks the ventilation and the way the power cable is in the way...I wouldn't be able to do it. I would physically not be able to complete the process as something in my brain would say "NO!". Not talking about any safety issues etc. Just something else I can't pinpoint. So...I assume free shipping return of the GPU and replacement by the seller with another one? Right? Right?
@RossClarke0
@RossClarke0 20 күн бұрын
My kids brand new 5600g/rx 6600 combo used to require AMD driver installs for almost every crash. He used to kick his cable out the PSU often and the sad part is how long it took to diagnose the crashing since it never happened when I was there not kicking the PSU.
@AllanBorch
@AllanBorch 20 күн бұрын
I really wanted to know what was wrong with the Gpu and Ram. Damn my curiosity... I'll be thinking of this all night, and not get any sleep!😆
@gabrielgabriel9779
@gabrielgabriel9779 20 күн бұрын
Turn a 220V in to a 127V wall socket is fine.. it wont run but it wont fry up either. Now a 127V in to a 220V socket is kaboommmm
@charleshines2142
@charleshines2142 Күн бұрын
I bought a Gigabyte motherboard and it also came with the IO shield already attached. It is a different model board. In a way I like the shield already being on it. That should minimize the chance of them having to replace a lot of shields that were either the wrong one accidentally put in the box or the chances of one that was cut wrong and doesn't fit or shorts things. We all know how disappointing that will be to plug it in and have it be dead from the start because of such a defect.
@qmmt9786
@qmmt9786 20 күн бұрын
Those castup and mustard cables made me physically cringe.
@soaphelps
@soaphelps 20 күн бұрын
sellers that make money on shipping is infuriating. found my daughter a bed for 80$ on amazon with shipping it was going to be 450$ f that noise.
@Nodicus
@Nodicus 20 күн бұрын
I wonder if messing with the clocks or the voltage from the video card would have changed anything
@nsovomabasa5014
@nsovomabasa5014 20 күн бұрын
Now, that's a sleek PC. I'd love to look at it at my desk everyday. We must appreciate the little things Dawid
@coretagr
@coretagr 20 күн бұрын
My brother's 580 does the same thing but takes a lot longer to do it. Various posts were saying it was a VRM overheat issue with older cards, and they may be right. As after chasing other leads down I finally focused on that, replaced all the shmoo under there, and now he hasn't sent it back to me for troubleshooting in a few months. (Also wouldn't be surprising if an old, suspiciously cheap card was some sort of refurb.)
@yotoprules9361
@yotoprules9361 20 күн бұрын
AFAIK these are ex-mining GPUs, essentially using salvaged parts on a new PCB. You may get one thats fine, you may not. I've bought 4 aliexpress "refurb" GPUs and all of them work perfectly, at least for now.
@joggabonkers6380
@joggabonkers6380 20 күн бұрын
you can buy the 7500f in the western market. I can buy it here in Norway
@stragulus
@stragulus 20 күн бұрын
Just for fun I looked up Dutch prices for a b650m/RX580 equivalent setup (even using the same 7500f CPU!) with all locally sourced components (including shipping) and it comes out at $629.43 all-in, so about $30 more. But, presumably with all working and at least warrantied components. Given that our prices are easily 10-30% more expensive than the US, it should be easy to get a sub-$600 passable AM5 system there.
@kidman2505
@kidman2505 8 күн бұрын
Dawid with the savvy 2 DIMM overclocking knowledge
@Viking8888
@Viking8888 16 күн бұрын
Oh man, I have been going through the exact GPU crashing issue over the past few weeks. I have a 51Risc RX 590 GME which is essentially an RX 580 with a bigger number. I've had it for months and never had an issue. I only fire that system up when one of my nephews comes over to play a game with me, so it usually sits off most of the time. Several weeks ago one the nephews comes over and we start playing a game and BAM! GPU driver crash. Reinstall the driver and a few minutes after starting the game.....BAM! It crashed again. So, I went through EVERYTHING you can think of to diagnose this thing, including having 51Risc send another one GPU. New card, same issue. Long story shorter, I removed the motherboard so I could test outside the case. I grabbed a spare PSU and the issue just POOF!!! went away. I removed the original PSU from the case and tried it and the crashing came back. The original PSU is a Seasonic Focus 850 watt Gold. Didn't even think for a moment it could be the issue. Dawid, I wonder if you were to try a better brand of PSU if that MLLSE card would work after all.
@Spitlebug
@Spitlebug 20 күн бұрын
Aigo ICE400SE w/4 heatpipes woulda cooled that for $5 CAD more. Then again, you could have just gotten a Thermalrite Assassin King 120 SE for near parity.
@kogo8745
@kogo8745 20 күн бұрын
The ram will work eventually after hours of restarting, no idea why but I built the same aliexpress crap and it worked beautifully
@Arek_R.
@Arek_R. 16 күн бұрын
That cheap ass 600W PSU actually has all the 600W available on the 12V rail which is a indicator of a good PSU, wtf...
@TheHangarHobbit
@TheHangarHobbit 20 күн бұрын
Windows is overwriting the drivers and making a mess, the fix is to use gpedit to disable Windows driver updates. Ran into the same issue on a grandson's PC with the 2048, Windows update drivers 💩💩 all over that card.
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