I Built a Bow Out of 547 Pencils! (WILL IT BOW) Ep. 7

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Kramer Ammons

Kramer Ammons

3 жыл бұрын

Can 547 Pencils Make a bow?! You and I have both been wondering the answer to this question and today we find out!
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@JTGallant
@JTGallant 3 жыл бұрын
I've been going through an incredibly rough time, but one of my outlets, like you, is bowmaking from common materials. Your vibe is awesome. You exude a genuine likeability, a humble demeanor and just an all around feel good aura. I am grateful to have discovered your channel and I appreciate you.
@houselightkell
@houselightkell 3 жыл бұрын
What kinds of common materials have you used?
@bevenwarland5029
@bevenwarland5029 2 жыл бұрын
Brobeans, I feel that. I'm watching this in the top end of Australia, and even a year later hoping this finds you well. I've shot compounds most of my life, but really wanna try this whole selfbow thing! If I could get a solid 50- 60lbs I'd be the happiest bloke around
@NatedoGP
@NatedoGP 3 жыл бұрын
Try this again with arrows...
@mikajacobsen860
@mikajacobsen860 3 жыл бұрын
and then make arrows out of bows!
@losipoop
@losipoop 3 жыл бұрын
this is beautiful. i hope this comes together lol.
@LaWraWaN
@LaWraWaN 3 жыл бұрын
omg will it arrow ?
@losipoop
@losipoop 3 жыл бұрын
​@@LaWraWaN i am witnessing art in the making.
@losipoop
@losipoop 3 жыл бұрын
give it a rest.
@notapplicable531
@notapplicable531 3 жыл бұрын
I'm at the 7:32 point and my mind is screaming, "Stagger the pencils! Don't butt them end to end!" The rest of this video has become a "how-soon-will-this thing snap"!
@joey98765432100
@joey98765432100 3 жыл бұрын
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@Kim-the-Dane-1952
@Kim-the-Dane-1952 3 жыл бұрын
@@kramerammonsarchery and take the erasers off!
@storm0fnova
@storm0fnova 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kim-the-Dane-1952 the erasers might actually be supporting the structure. what i'm worried about is the graphite core thate's 100% brittle and won't bend at all.
@LanceAtlas
@LanceAtlas 3 жыл бұрын
Graphite is actually stronger than the wood around it. The clay in the graphite however...
@ofcatarina
@ofcatarina 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts precisely.
@Macho00123
@Macho00123 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the stacking was the problem.... If you stack them the same way bricks are it SHOULD hold up💪🏾💪🏾
@SeanBlader
@SeanBlader 3 жыл бұрын
As The Mythbusters used to say, "Failure is always an option."
@joey98765432100
@joey98765432100 3 жыл бұрын
Next time take a lesson from cake decorators, put the epoxy in a piping bag, I'd put the epoxy in a gallon ziplock bag, seal well, mash the bag to thoroughly mix, and pipe it into the form.
@houselightkell
@houselightkell 3 жыл бұрын
That's bloody brilliant
@henrys3217
@henrys3217 3 жыл бұрын
If I could give you a tip. on the wall that you use to measure the draw length and weight, draw in a Grid on the wall. This way you can directly know how far one side of the bow is bending compared to the other.
@gabesantoriello8402
@gabesantoriello8402 2 жыл бұрын
DUDE that was such a pleasure to watch. 25 minutes well spent! Haha I see from the comments I was not the only one yelling at the screen midway to stagger the pencils and cut off the erasers. Good stuff. Thank you for sharing
@valkyriebakura4747
@valkyriebakura4747 2 жыл бұрын
So I downloaded the pdf and decided to go with plywood and drywall tape. Now sitting here, doing measurements on my future bow and watching you making one with pencils.. What a pleasure :)
@pikondrej
@pikondrej 3 жыл бұрын
Kramer: I know there's somebody out there who was sitting there, watching me put together and stack all these pencils together saying "This guy is just really dumb"... Me: No, you try, you learn, it's ok Kramer: **hits himself with the bow to demonstrate how easy it is to break** Auu Me: **facepalm**
@coryernewein
@coryernewein 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video sir, you guys are great. Almost done my bow and will be ordering some high quality strings and will send some pics for the community🤘
@JohnNorrisMetalSculpture
@JohnNorrisMetalSculpture 3 жыл бұрын
Such a good series 'will it bow'. Thanks for the education and the laughs! Great job!
@christophercox5566
@christophercox5566 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the entire premise was a hoot! I absolutely love your series. It seems to me that the filming production for this one had some new techniques. The cinematography of this one really stood out. Two thumbs up!
@chesshamster3641
@chesshamster3641 3 жыл бұрын
So, I am making a long bow from a board, I have the tiller good, but the bow won't bend far enough. It is at brace height, but I am afraid it will snap if I try to shoot it at draw length. Also, a good will it bow might be a yard stick.
@jpvoxdawg
@jpvoxdawg 3 жыл бұрын
Have you made yourself a tillering tree or board?
@chesshamster3641
@chesshamster3641 3 жыл бұрын
@@jpvoxdawg Yes, I have.
@jpvoxdawg
@jpvoxdawg 3 жыл бұрын
Chess Hamster okie doke. I’m assuming you have the tillering string on still. So next step is you wanna be able to draw your board back to a little beyond your draw length and poundage. ie 40lbs draw weight @ 30 a inch draw length. If you don’t have a scale my first time I used kettle bells in a bucket until I got the weight I wanted. I obviously can’t see your work but if you have an even tiller already then keep removing wood evenly by taking a sharpie and scribbling up and down both limbs. Keep the last 3 or 4 inches of your limb tips relatively thicker. If you’re using an electric sander then keep using that but a rasp here is OK. Change to marking the limbs with pencil when you start getting closer (as pencil doesn’t bleed into the wood like sharpie ink does). GO SLOW! Really pay attention to any flattening of the curvature. Key places to look for are typically just beyond the handle and the outer third. This part of the process is where the bow will snap if there’s any error on your behalf so just don’t get impatient and don’t push the bow. Any cracking noises are not acceptable. If you haven’t already, order your bow string. Once you’ve got your board to the specs you’re after, brace the bow and tiller with the bow string. Hope this helps!
@jpvoxdawg
@jpvoxdawg 3 жыл бұрын
Chess Hamster TL;DR you need to take more wood off 😂😂 and remember that draw weight is equally as important as draw length.
@chesshamster3641
@chesshamster3641 3 жыл бұрын
@@jpvoxdawg Okay, thanks! Will do!
@502deth
@502deth 3 жыл бұрын
im so glad you took the points and erasers off for hte 2nd run. i wasnt yelling at the screen about the staggering, but those erasers were really getting to me!
@jeffnash2175
@jeffnash2175 3 жыл бұрын
My first three broke,But I’m not giving up, never ever give up!
@DanSantanaBows
@DanSantanaBows 3 жыл бұрын
“If ya ain’t breakin ya ain’t makin’” -Jawge
@FPSWildlifeAngler
@FPSWildlifeAngler 3 жыл бұрын
my first three also broke so now my 4 and 5 one and goin mutch better
@FT4Freedom
@FT4Freedom Жыл бұрын
This is a great demonstration of hinge. Change in material density creates hinge under bending force. Like concrete and rebar. The overlap of the cables reinforces the joint.
@Zickzag
@Zickzag 3 жыл бұрын
The will it boy intro is by far my favorite of any current youtube series im watching, very well put together kramer.
@lastwymsi
@lastwymsi 3 жыл бұрын
I am having conniptions about your approach to trying this, but good on ya for actually trying this! Not like I've actually done it before.
@ThomasWilts98
@ThomasWilts98 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! On one of your will it bow challenges I would recommend trying a soft wood like cottonwood with deflex tips. As always keep up the great work!!!
@richardfinney8617
@richardfinney8617 3 жыл бұрын
I totally respect you're ability to think outside the ordinary bow ingredients please don't stop. Was wondering if you have built a extreme reflex reflex recurve? Would love to see you tackle this project; great video sir
@rscasados
@rscasados 3 жыл бұрын
Great experiment with trying the pencils out. At first I was saying to myself that you should had staggered them and taken the erasers off but I'm glad you did that at the end. Looking forward to seeing what is coming next!
@jamesyarker2862
@jamesyarker2862 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos always keep me glued ( as tight as EA40 to PVC) to my computer from start to finish Kramer- I’m not just saying this mate but I get so excited when you post a new video, also I tried the stretches your wife showed you and it’s improving my shooting too, thanks again
@nickfuller9195
@nickfuller9195 2 жыл бұрын
Man I really love your videos you are the best content creator in my honest opinion when it comes to archery I'm so glad that you do this keep the videos coming man
@lukaszzz93
@lukaszzz93 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, no way! It's working, haha! Love to watch that kind of creativity and experiments! A lot of work - respect! - and also, a lot of fun :)
@Jonsoh811
@Jonsoh811 3 жыл бұрын
Having made a working bow out of bamboo 5 inch skewers and tape (the one you use to wrap presents), you put them head to tail (so in your case no erasers together) and stagger them like flooring. Break/saw the last one and use it as the first one for the next row. A thin shoelace as string and bundled skewers to build an arrow. I made it around 30 lbs and shot repeatedly. It has survived for a few years now, although only about 500 shots max.
@coryernewein
@coryernewein 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to mention a similar thought. The pencils should be overlapped to prevent...you know...FAILURE lol
@battleborn2002
@battleborn2002 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your vibe. Great job!
@soptop659
@soptop659 Ай бұрын
really like those kind of videos to calm down after school I know school isnt the most stressful thing in the world but still hahah really appriciate your videos
@_definitelymaybe2332
@_definitelymaybe2332 3 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful series! Loved it, mate.
@adamthomas8010
@adamthomas8010 3 жыл бұрын
Genius!! That's awesome my man
@alexshearing666
@alexshearing666 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kramer I’m in the middle of making my first bow fibreglass tape back on a white oak board follow your plans
@johnrodabaugh4887
@johnrodabaugh4887 3 жыл бұрын
I love your dedication to this craft! Your videos are always entertaining and the vidoegraphy is getting better every time! Keep up the great work!
@jasonwhite3061
@jasonwhite3061 3 жыл бұрын
I just recently got a interest in archery and I really enjoy your videos. I found them entertaining and really informative. Is it possible to buy any of the bows you make? Thank you for the videos. Keep up the good work and I look forward to watching more.
@TheProvick12
@TheProvick12 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome idea and tough luck on this build. If you can source it you should try used skateboard decks. Skate shops probably have stacks they would give you if you asked nicely. The multi color pattern would look cool on a bow.
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 3 жыл бұрын
It's very admirable that you persevere in the face of defeat, it's a shame that your adaptions didn't succeed. Enjoyable post, thankyou for the entertainment.🏹🙂
@perigrin6
@perigrin6 3 жыл бұрын
Holy cow! I got a shoutout at 18:21! This feels so cool. Thanks man!
@karenmurray3098
@karenmurray3098 2 жыл бұрын
that was entertaining ! i was thinking , " no way that's going to work" and what happens , you get a shooting bow !! keep up the good work
@elliotpayne6716
@elliotpayne6716 Жыл бұрын
Great concept, I wonder if garden canes will bow? It would be interesting as a garden cane with a piece of string was probably most childrens first attempt at a bow. I know it was mine.
@anthonyfeatherstone7696
@anthonyfeatherstone7696 3 жыл бұрын
You know my favorite thing about your will it bow series is if it fails we can see your disappointed however you keep on going and provide great informational content with a great attitude.
@soolenia9844
@soolenia9844 3 жыл бұрын
You’ve got to make some videos about editing and cameras stuff, your work looks fantastic
@andrewscheel2366
@andrewscheel2366 3 жыл бұрын
You should make a video where you make the quietest bow ever and take you of your bows and just completely fill up the whole string with beaver balls and put felt where the strings slaps and any other areas where the bow might be loud. Do a sound comparison before-after and then do a speed test. With way to many beaver balls and then without any. Just thought it would be a cool video and I would love to see it
@Jorokusaki
@Jorokusaki 3 жыл бұрын
Cool! Maybe a staggered short bow would be an upgrade, but I'm willing to bet the graphite area and inside the pencils in general are imperfections regardless of length or staggering.
@doneshdavami6538
@doneshdavami6538 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I made my own bow (from your video) but am not sure how long the bow string should be. Any suggestions?
@gusser2121
@gusser2121 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, so from an engineering perspective, each of your pencil elements are too stiff and brittle to bow. However, there is some flex. Your bow would need to be very long to get appreciable draw to shoot an arrow. But the journey was certainly fun.
@JubbaheyChannel
@JubbaheyChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, a thinner layer of pencils would prob bend a bit more where they meet as long as they dont act as one whole length, ie, by staggering them. Having them in columns with a pvc backing helps to maintain integrity to a certain poundage before the pencil fails. Even then I think the pvc will fail (plastic fatigue) before the pencil.
@isaacthek
@isaacthek 3 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking that the metal and rubber were actually HELPING with the compression and tension on the bow, and removing them weakened the overall structure. The graphite was probably cracking within the individual pencils, though the way the bow broke looks like it snapped on the diagonal seams between the pencils, suggesting that keeping the tips to "interlace" them like you did the two pieces of the pallet bow would have helped. And possibly a tighter hexagonal vs square vertical packing would have added more strength.
@sigmanarchery54
@sigmanarchery54 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty cool. God bless brother. 👍🏼🏹🇺🇸
@stevenbalderstone709
@stevenbalderstone709 3 жыл бұрын
Great effort!
@davidmurphy6295
@davidmurphy6295 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a crazy idea for will it bow fishing rods
@lipadlipad5894
@lipadlipad5894 2 жыл бұрын
I'll enjoy watching you while coffee ☕ from phillipines🇵🇭
@nml5536
@nml5536 3 жыл бұрын
wow! inspiring!
@adamthomas8010
@adamthomas8010 3 жыл бұрын
Now that's a smart bow.
@Jgosse
@Jgosse 3 жыл бұрын
I am watching this and like "he really needed to stagger those pencils. " and then he is like " I really should of stagger these. "
@2anonymous
@2anonymous 3 жыл бұрын
Wear gloves with epoxy. That washing your hands with acetone is really hard on your liver.
@grinninggoat5369
@grinninggoat5369 3 жыл бұрын
Heard the same thing about Ethyl Alcohol, been directly washing my liver in it every Friday night for years and the only problem I've had from it required a paternity test to fix. (Pro tip: With the right DNA Lab Dr., a negative paternity test costs triple a positive test but they are worth it in the long run! But yeah on second thought, acetone or alcohol, better glove your appendages first with some latex, it's still a cheaper precaution.)
@victorlarignon2814
@victorlarignon2814 3 жыл бұрын
And most epoxys are carcinogenic... And acetone just helps the glue to get through your skin !
@houselightkell
@houselightkell 3 жыл бұрын
I've gotten epoxy on my hands plenty of times and never had to use special chemicals to clean it off
@heberdua
@heberdua 3 жыл бұрын
Lol! Love these videos ! Great work !
@kentsel
@kentsel 3 жыл бұрын
@Kramer Ammons I need ask some think, my bows all ways borkeing why ?
@dipshitdoodah
@dipshitdoodah 3 жыл бұрын
That bow is absurd and I love it.
@TuberGreg
@TuberGreg 3 жыл бұрын
I might be late to the EA-40 party here, but could you improve your distribution by putting the mixture into a freezer bag and then pipping it onto the work area like icing a cake? I used to do this when filling sword handles and making scabbards with a different epoxy. Not sure if the EA40 would dissolve the bag or not.
@gushlergushler
@gushlergushler 3 жыл бұрын
If you wanna stop something sticking to expoxy you can add some sort of grease or wax, that is what you sometimes do with knife handles when you are bedding a tang.
@thebesttennisplayer5693
@thebesttennisplayer5693 3 жыл бұрын
great job man!!!
@jhosephking5665
@jhosephking5665 3 жыл бұрын
Oh good i think you are the best bow maker i ewer see in my life 👌👌
@JarppaGuru
@JarppaGuru 2 жыл бұрын
16:07 yeah eraser lined no stacking. only clue give strenght. will it bend? and why anyway leave erasers lol
@Herr_Scheissemann
@Herr_Scheissemann 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Kramer, you should've shown us how the last pencil bow broke. It'll be interesting to know why it fails.
@gabrielwickline315
@gabrielwickline315 3 жыл бұрын
For a next bow idea, make a bow with the riser being made from colored pencils! The PVC backing seems to be good, so try it with maybe a softer wood, like pine or spruce to see how that works, with that PVC as a backing and make the handle out of colored pencils!
@Macho00123
@Macho00123 3 жыл бұрын
Haven't finished yet. But from a physical point I feel like like it wouldn't hold much because of the eraser and sharpened tips.... They don't help with strength
@MiniMotorsNMore
@MiniMotorsNMore 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a bow using the epoxy as the backing, layer it up and then put the belly of the bow on?
@LongBowMan89
@LongBowMan89 3 жыл бұрын
WILL IT BOW !!! Heck yea man this should be good ! 🎯🏹
@pay4934
@pay4934 3 жыл бұрын
Out of the box 👍👍👍
@topjimmy58
@topjimmy58 3 жыл бұрын
Any tips on making a bow from red oak for a very low draw weight? Thinking 20lbs at 26/27 inch draw?
@ThatNinja1
@ThatNinja1 3 жыл бұрын
Red oak is easy to make light draw bows. 3/8 thick limbs is about what I found to be good enough for about 20 to 25lbs if you tiller right. Mine has recurved limbs and is thicker then my hickory bow which is 35lbs or so at 28.
@topjimmy58
@topjimmy58 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThatNinja1 ok! Thanks! I've been shooting for .5 inch, ill bring it to 3/8 and give it try there. I recently had my first bow break the other week and haven't really been trying to work on my two other staves due to fear of failure. That being said. I did have abit of fun breaking the shorty I was making.
@slalomsk8er397
@slalomsk8er397 3 жыл бұрын
popsicle sticks would have been my choice for making the laminate. with some fiberglass as backing this would have a fighting chance for a usable bow.
@davidslater7187
@davidslater7187 3 жыл бұрын
Can bamboo from a tiki torch be used for a bow backer?
@jackm2293
@jackm2293 3 жыл бұрын
wonderful bro. thx
@bushidokori
@bushidokori 3 жыл бұрын
Hey maybe you can try something in later episodes like combining different "will its " like this pencil bow and dog bone backing.
@ewann3
@ewann3 3 жыл бұрын
Im writing this at the point of setting the pencils, surely it would have been better to trim off the points and the rubbers? then it wouldnt have heavy flex intervals?
@Moe_hang
@Moe_hang 3 жыл бұрын
Awesomeness!!!
@mintyhippo6290
@mintyhippo6290 3 жыл бұрын
This is cool as hell man just messing around trying to make stuff thats what its all about. The wall of infamy btw.
@MostafaShaalanTV
@MostafaShaalanTV Жыл бұрын
Crazy idea 😅👌
@gaza102289
@gaza102289 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a wooden channel lined with packing tape have made a better and easier form?
@dommer6977
@dommer6977 3 жыл бұрын
I’m currently making my first bow. I’m using bed slats. Wish me luck! 😅
@SBDScott
@SBDScott 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if wood glue would work better than the epoxy in this instance. Also another possible issue is the very shiny, and slick surface of the paint (coating?) on the pencils. Maybe a light sanding on the pencils would allow better adhesion, with your staggered build, it may possibly give you better results. I really enjoyed watching this, as I enjoyed all your previous videos as well.
@BryanKoenig379
@BryanKoenig379 3 жыл бұрын
Love ur stuff
@triniboybobb2332
@triniboybobb2332 3 жыл бұрын
I understand your frustration when bows break
@johnh290
@johnh290 3 жыл бұрын
have you made pvc pipe bows b4 ? if not you should have a look a channel called BackyardBowyer
@losipoop
@losipoop 3 жыл бұрын
awesome!!!
@jonathanbennison9220
@jonathanbennison9220 11 ай бұрын
What a Krazy idea
@danielaatgracr9082
@danielaatgracr9082 3 жыл бұрын
Should have seen I’d you could make arrows from the pencils as well!
@danielaatgracr9082
@danielaatgracr9082 3 жыл бұрын
@@kramerammonsarchery thank you for the reply! I don’t even make bows but I love watching your videos they are some how therapeutic.
@brianjohns2865
@brianjohns2865 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the whole time that you should be staggering the pencils and at least cutting the erasers off. I don't know if unsharpened pencils would be better. Perhaps you could then just cut the eraser off at the length you wanted. Just a thought though. I'm thinking about making an Osage bow. We have a lot of bodark trees that grow wild around my house. Perhaps I could find one that would make a good bow.
@dakotahicks6725
@dakotahicks6725 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious if someone could make a bow with 1/2" ID PVC pipe and 1/2"od solid fiberglass rod and it actually last and be strong enough to hunt with
@119santana
@119santana 3 жыл бұрын
I came for the bows and stayed for the editing
@OFGW
@OFGW 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, great effort, and great problem solving. Even if it wasn’t a 100% success, you still learned from it (and so did your audience). Thank you for all your content.
@cdp50359
@cdp50359 3 жыл бұрын
Piano wire, layer this and see if it will bow
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742
@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 3 жыл бұрын
Nice idea
@cdp50359
@cdp50359 3 жыл бұрын
@@SSRT_JubyDuby8742 thanks
@human8903
@human8903 3 жыл бұрын
i like that moment when you say: i dont know what im doing
@Mr.FastZombie
@Mr.FastZombie 3 жыл бұрын
Now I kinda want to do this with colored pencils and make a rainBOW
@andrewbutton2039
@andrewbutton2039 3 жыл бұрын
At 9 minutes in, I'm skeptical it will work due to all the graphite and rubber inclusions, but having seen the pallet, tie, and duct tape bows I'm very interested in seeing the end product
@Alpha-ez9dc
@Alpha-ez9dc 3 жыл бұрын
that is so cool
@stevelopich408
@stevelopich408 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@gallactikk4323
@gallactikk4323 3 жыл бұрын
Now you hear too do a concrete and rebar bow
@paulregner5335
@paulregner5335 3 жыл бұрын
Pencils are in and of themselves laminated in construction. Perhaps if you tried again, use pencils that are unpainted as well. That way you get epoxy bonding to pencil wood, instead of the paint on the pencil.
@TheHadMatters
@TheHadMatters 3 жыл бұрын
The problem isn't the adhesive strength, it's the bending properties of the pencils. That's why it broke when he staggered them - the epoxy no longer makes up for the lack of bend, so the pencils just practically immediately snap. The only thing he could do, I think is use the pencils as one half of the bow (I think the front half? But I'm no expert on where they would fit better; front or back.), and a material that bends better as the other half. As is, their properties just don't work well to replace regular wood for bowmaking - not even just because of the graphite, but also because of the type of wood around them, I think.
@topjimmy58
@topjimmy58 3 жыл бұрын
Have you had an experience with 3d printing a flemish twist jig?
@topjimmy58
@topjimmy58 3 жыл бұрын
@@kramerammonsarchery I've made a model of your design that I'm planning on uploading once when thingiverse works :/ haha love your videos! Hopefully I can get a working bow soon!
@nickchristian1590
@nickchristian1590 3 жыл бұрын
Dude, can you list the songs in your episodes? I love the music choice
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