Hm. Should I mention that spirit riding free and spirit untamed exist? Maybe….

Yes this 1000%. It's like they forgot the message of the original film and lost all depth

Could've done a legacy sequel format where some east coast writer cashing in on the nostalgia for the "wild west" era (which was already starting in the 1890s-1900s), gets in contact with a much older Col. and Little Creek after hearing about their entwined histories with a remarkable wild horse, and they go searching to see if any of Spirit's and Rain's descendants still roam free somewhere.

i'm saying, i tried to watch it but just couldn't. that shii was NOT my spirit

Dreamworks likely did it because creating a new show would require creating a new IP/getting the rights to adapt one of those horse books. Meanwhile, Spirit is right there and comes with a small in-built audience (parents putting it on for their children because they remember watching the movie as kids themselves). Unfortunately, money trumps the original themes and message of the movie.

I'm just pretending that this thing doesn't exist

More so toothless and hiccups first bonding scene in movie 1

The Forbidden Friendship scene in HTTYD is god tier

Thanks guys, you’re right

the montage w Shrek and Fiona falling in love i think too

I think he might have missed that metaphor because it isn't ever included in history books or pieces about that time period. I live in the US and this is the first time I've ever heard of that happening. (but it is 100% believable without even double checking that fact. and is also a f-ed up thing to do)

@@zebraloverbridgetyeah every so often if you’re looking you’ll see a news report about another mass grave being found near a residential school site. they’d prick kids tongues with needles if they tried to speak their language instead of english, some white people genuinely they could turn native kids white by taking them from native families

That is very true!!! Good catch! Not a lot of people know this part of North America’ story

@@noraedwardstudio9321in Canada a good chunk of people know, especially us younger people, we’re taught about it in school,

@@art_kitty_1190 Absolutely! I was talking how it was unknown in the world. Like if in Canada, a part of the population still don't know, imagine how other countries might not have access to that information! I was born in Europe and no one knew about that, we don't talk about it even in schools. I am so glad though that this information is reaching more people!

I thought the same thing!

SAME BRO IT’S NOT EVEN THAT SAD T-T

Apparently Kung fu panda for is getting warmed up to. I've have not it at all yet, but appently it's getting better by the minute

@@VinylBeta1 yeah

@@sjmhadsock4586 You suggest I should watch it?

Ugh, 100% agreed! This was such a brilliant film and as a horse lover, even more so! 😁

Agreed as well, I used to beg my mum to take out the dvds to watch spirit.

Spirit and black beauty (1994) incidentally both have music by hanz Zimmer are the ONLY two horse centred films I love. Both for different reasons. But both in their own right as a film about a horse as the main character, take me on an emotional journey 😅

@@NukariaNever watched the black beauty movies, only a few versions of the books-brutal stuff! Awesome story of survival though

It's funny cos Disney later on did Brother Bear - another story about indigenous americans that was WAY better than Pocahontas, and people acted like it never existed. More's the pity, Brother Bear is fantastic.

@@ReplicaateI’ve never seen brother bear, I honestly had no idea what kind of quality the movie had! Maybe I ought to give it a watch

@@florpleborp2275 I personally love it, even though it's a divisive movie in general. But in my mind, if something gets hate/love instead of a "meh" then it's got to be doing something right.

I watched this as a kid and likely before I knew the backstory fully but it was still super obvious why the US soldiers were bad. There is enough context in tthe movies to make that super clear

"avoided the preachment"? Spirit was as subtle as a locomotive crashing down a hill and exploding. There was no point in the movie where the message was even slightly ambiguous. Maybe it's a sermon people like, but it was definitely preachy.

You're entirely right oh my god, it IS literally everything! Bad, and good! It's so frustrating how willfully ignorant white people framed this movie as "politically correct and childish", leading to people avoiding the movie. I can garuntee you that the majority of Americans would have said something against that, but for some reason only the descendants affected history. That's the most depressing thing I've heard in an hour.

Broooo, The Last Unicorn!! What a trip, hey? 😅 Was definitely also a feature of my childhood, lol

@@readmachine18 Yep. A weired one but I loved it.

Oh my god I remember that tutorial by heart! I drew countless yellow and brown horsies back then and I wonder where my art skills would be left at now if this movie wouldn't exist. I still watch it once a year :3

@@valefarkoko2023 I was so obsessed with it too! I still draw horses with this method. Maybe i wouldnt draw today if it wasnt for this movie and the tutorial. It helped me to understand the basics of drawing better than any book. And the movie is just beautiful. You know what? I go watch it now. It has been to long since I watched it. (Funny thing: on car rides I Imagined a brown horse or spirit running next to the Car.)

Oh goodness, the DVD tutorial was awesome! I think it had a pretty massive effect on my own art journey. I already wrote a whole long comment on the first part of the review about my personal thoughts on the movie and mentioned that tutorial there too haha!! I never really got into animation, and my current style is... fairly different and more personal, but I think there are still some traces of the style from Spirit in certain bits or processes in my art. I draw more dogs and people than horses, but I think my sketching process at least is somewhat inspired by that tutorial. Also as a Finnish person who only ever saw the Finnish dub of Spirit until I tried to watch it in English recently but literally couldn't because the songs especially were so different, consider listening to the Finnish covers of the songs... Absolutely no hate to the OG American songs, but at least a couple of them are personally even better in Finnish. The main one is for sure the cover of You Can't Take Me. There's a bunch of uploads of it on YT, but I think the best clipped one is by NonDisneyFIN, as a lot of them tend to be cut too abrutply from the start or the end. You can find it on KZfaq by just typing in "Spirit you can't take me nondisneyfin"! It should be the top result, but if it isn't, the title also has [HD 1080p] at the end so it might be easier to find. I'd link it here but I think YT doesn't like links in comments anymore because of all the bots.

There are books???

@@DueSouthWests Yep! They're called Spirit of the West by Kathleen Duey. There are 4 in total (in order) 1. Bonita 2. Sierra 3. Esperanza 4. Spirit Bonita is the grandmother of Rain, Sierra is Rain's mother and Esperanza is of course Spirit's mother.

Even more specific, the harmonica song is "Red River Valley". Which seems like a deliberate choice: "From this valley they say you are going..."

@@Replicaate Oh cool! I never knew it was a specific song!

Fun (not really) Fact, but did you know Spirit was actually supposed to be a lot darker? I'm talking Black Beauty levels dark. There was a version of the story where Spirit was in fact tamed and was moved from place to place as a work horse. Apparently the original version of Spirit was so dark and depressing that people in the studio started calling it "Shindler's Horse", after the Holocaust movie "Shindler's List". If you go searching for it on KZfaq, there's a video that talks about that 1st draft of the movie. I'm so glad the didn't go with that original version for Spirit. It would've been too dark for a DreamWorks family movie. I'm so happy and thankful for the version we got, but to think that in another universe, we could've gotten a much darker version of Spirit... Btw, the video talking about that draft was titled something like: "5 scenes that didn't make it into the film Spirit" or something along those lines if you want to see what I'm talking about.

@@shadowwatcherproductions5281 Yes! I've seen the concept art and read up on it a few times! I'm glad they went with the lighter tone too. In terms of horse movies it was revolutionary at the time XD (and still is to a degree)

I think there's also the implied darkness of the movie setting. Yes it ends on a good note, but you also know that that railroad is going to be finished. The West was "won" and there is a lot of darkness and tragedy in that whole story (and the reality that comes from it). It's one of the things that makes me love this movie as an adult, it's not afraid to end on a happy or hopeful note even with it's dealing with a darker subject.

There's a movie ... I can't help but wonder if it inspired Spirit somehow. It's an Australian live-action film called The Silver Stallion, and it's honestly INCREDIBLE, but I also don't think there was anyone there really making sure the animals were safe. I think a horse actually dies on camera.

The scene where Black Beauty (1994) and Joe reunite at an auction, and Beauty is skin-and-bones. That was before CGI (right?), which terrifies me to think how the horse became that skinny for that one scene.

AAAAAAAAAAAA In America it was released as The Silver Stallion but AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I don’t think I've *EVER* come across someone else who knows that film?? It's really similar to Spirit, isn't it?

@@iPyromantic Yeah! It was also a book and a cartoon series, which go further into the horse herd politics.

I've always wanted to see Spirit in a theatre!

Yeeeess EAH

Dreamworks does funny movies well, but it does emotional movies better

DreamWorks Animation > Disney. I said it, and I'm proud to say it. This is not to say that the Disney renaissance wasn't INCREDIBLE, nor that they haven't produced a decent film or two since (although arguably most of those were Pixar before Disney bought it,) but almost every single animated film DreamWorks makes is just genuinely enjoyable -although I do not include the Madagascar franchise in that, personally - and many of them are *brilliant.*