I Changed My PS3 Hard Drive for an SSD - How Much of a Difference Does it Make?

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I have a 120 GB Playstation 3 Slim that I rarely use, and I now had a spare 120 GB SATA SSD. So I tried cloning my PS3's hard drive into my SSD and tried using that instead. It turns out it's a bit more complicated than that, but the results are worth it!
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(0:00) Introduction
(1:28) Softmod Advantages
(2:15) Removing the Hard Drive
(3:27) Software Side
(5:20) Problem, and Weird Solution
(6:01) Summary of the Process
(6:25) Load Time Comparisons
(8:07) Hatsune Miku: Project DIVA F
(8:51) GTA V and Conclusion
(10:43) Closing
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@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing. Pretty clearly demonstrates that everybody saying it’s a pointless upgrade doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 3 жыл бұрын

@Azen.v2 The question isn't whether it can use the full potential of an SSD. Obviously not. But it seems clear that a spinning platter cannot fully saturate the bus either.

@Jonnie244 2 жыл бұрын

@@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 maybe they should've put a HDD in there which is fast enough for RAM + CPU (like 9200rpm)

@MrDarkSephirot 2 жыл бұрын

@AzenStreams sequential max speeds (which are indeed limited by the SATA bus) don't matter that much. What really makes a difference when it comes to SSD's vs HDD's are random speeds (IOPS). That is, jumping between each little file during reading operations is almost instantaneous, as opposed to HDD physically moving its head.

@Kyle-pj2vc Жыл бұрын

@AzenStreams It is pointless in the max read/write speeds. However the 4K random reads will 100% undoubtfully be faster on the SSD and offer a consistent max read performance; hence, we see much better load times. An upgrade to an SSD is not useless which is why I always recommend the cheapest SSDs that tend to be the slowest because the PS3 won't take advantage of high speeds anyway, but you get all the benefits of the random read speeds and more reliable storage.

@Kyle-pj2vc Жыл бұрын

@@MrDarkSephirot Yes the random 4k read speeds is why we see faster loading times on a system capped on sata 1

@LadyJen13 3 жыл бұрын

For future reference; an important step when replacing the internal storage of your PS3 is to backup using the PS3's Backup Utility to an USB Drive that is big enough for the task and is formatted to FAT32. It's the best method to transferring all your game saves over to the new internal storage; even if it isn't at all a quick process. I was sure to do exactly that when I upgraded the internal storage of my PS3 to a 1TB SSD.

@5aldl 3 жыл бұрын

Was everything backed up? Like online friends messages and other stuff? Or just the users and games?

@LadyJen13 3 жыл бұрын

@@5aldl I don't have any online friends or messages on my PS3, so Idk about that. Everything I had tied to my user profile on my PS3 to my knowledge, however, was backed up.

@5aldl 3 жыл бұрын

@@LadyJen13 ok, thanks

@johngungaming749 2 жыл бұрын

Is it fine if i use psp as an alternative for flash drive?

@LadyJen13 2 жыл бұрын

@@johngungaming749 If you have enough space on your PSP to do it, then maybe.

@PhilipMarcYT 2 жыл бұрын

Holy crap! Nearly 1:50 to load via HDD while it was 20secs via SSD. And I don't even like GTA V, but that's impressive!

@thatweirdnerdinthecomments4664 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! I was considering doing the SSD upgrade primarily because they were becoming cheaper and the stock 80GB HDD is practically worth nothing when it comes to storage space nowadays -- ordered a 500GB SSD and I guess the slight speed increase alongside the longetivity will be nice bonuses as well! I'm strepped on space with my HDD right now so I can't wait to finally be able to store more digital games on my PS3 now.

@tadams587 Жыл бұрын

Oopsie, the Sandisk SSD Plus does not have DRAM, If this is your primary SSD, get something with DRAM. Get the Sandisk SSD Ultra as it does have DRAM. While they both are SATA III, which is backward compatible with the previous SATA VERSIONS, apparently an SATA III SSD without DRAM takes an more noticeable hit in performance when using the previous SATA VERSIONS. The PS3 uses SATA I.

@TheMadface80 Жыл бұрын

It was the only SSD I had around 😅 But this is excellent information. Thank you! I'll keep this in mind if I ever decide to upgrade to a larger capacity

@tadams587 Жыл бұрын

@@TheMadface80 PS3 is compatible up to 1TB.

@tadams587 Жыл бұрын

@@TheMadface80 I actually upgraded mine 2 months back & almost bought the same one you did on amazon.

@giantstorm3717 7 ай бұрын

Thats true my ps3 wiith a modern Samsung ssd load a 6mb skyrim savedata in 18sek.

@sumrak_sumarokov_9978 5 ай бұрын

I wish I could recall this comment when I am gonna be about to upgrade my PS3...

@NyneIX9 2 жыл бұрын

You know what, man? This was a good video.

@rentisme 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my days the difference on gta is insane, im surprised it made that much of a difference considering it doesnt use sata 3 or anything, it was probably just the random access speed that helped it so much, wonder why gta is so cluttered?

@davey2k12 Жыл бұрын

Probably done it on purpose so you get a PS4 and i bet the SSDs was the same price as the PS4 when it cam out ....but it's crazy to say my PS3 is out living my PS4 which is a joke and they need to be sued for selling junk design.. twats 😂

@thomaswest2583 9 ай бұрын

A ssd can't fully utilize its full speed on the Ps3 due not having sata 3 or higher. But a ssd is still fast enough to run circles around a hdd

@rentisme 9 ай бұрын

@@thomaswest2583 did you read my comment?

@rentisme 9 ай бұрын

@@davey2k12 what? Again as I said to the other person, did you read my comment?

@thomaswest2583 9 ай бұрын

@rentisme Yes I read it, just pointing out ps3 uses older sata 1 in most ps3s. And the ssd still easily beats the hdd.

@boomboomjr92 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this brother!

@Eheth1958 Жыл бұрын

I have slim. Put in SSD, had to put a usb stick with ps3 4.89 file on it, downloaded free on website. Automatically boots up. Can transfer saves into usb stick and swap to new ssd. Easy replacement. Thank you sony for thinking of that.

@jamesrwarzyniak3190 Жыл бұрын

I just want to know if it improves read and write speeds even if minor, does the menu screen xmb download an install faster? Does it also have less pop in, in games? Does it improve gameplay?

@nobodyspecific7281 2 жыл бұрын

I would like to mention: I have a ps3 phat 40gb model. I took out the hdd, put in a western digital 240gb ssd, booted it in safe mode, and hit restore. No flash drive needed or anything. Worked in minutes. You don't need a PC or any fancy softwares or USB thumb sticks or copies of the update software guys.

@NiGHTSnoob 2 жыл бұрын

Only with a NAND fat model. The later fats and all the slim models have NOR flash and require a copy of the firmware on USB if you are intending to use custom firmware.

@davey2k12 Жыл бұрын

I wonder if you can use mini partition tool or a drive image to copy the PS3 drive to an img file then copy to ssd mmmm

@n0miind 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative thx for this vid

@BOXING_LOUNGE 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome Champ, I use the Samsung EVO 870 1tb SSD in my ps3 rig. It is sweet 🥊🥊🔥🔥

@mihai-robertparaschiv5760 Жыл бұрын

you doubled the value of your unit 🤣

@BOXING_LOUNGE Жыл бұрын

@@mihai-robertparaschiv5760 I have the best ps3 rig, upscaled to 2160p in real time 😎

@dupe2964 3 жыл бұрын

not the kind of content i watch but youre criminally underrated

@the_spada Жыл бұрын

Great video dude, love the Microsoft rip haha

@jomar6209 3 жыл бұрын

Quick question how is the USB expansion card you got for your rift s holding up

@TheMadface80 3 жыл бұрын

I've upgraded my whole PC. Luckily, the new motherboard that I bought was able to handle the USB 3.0 without much issue. But up until I upgraded my motherboard, the USB expansion worked until the end.

@pablohoraciocastellanosgar8639 2 жыл бұрын

a question if I go from an external drive by usb or ftp to the hard drive of the ps3, the fact that the ps3's internal is ssd makes it faster when writing or passing files? I say it for the write rate of the ssd

@andresbravo2003 2 жыл бұрын

well, I did the same with the 240 GB SATA SSD because I want to make it faster for the PS3 Slim to work. Still worth it.

@railroadverdigo1665 2 жыл бұрын

i remember going to grab snacks and take a wiz and coming back the game would be on its loading screen

@drebone1986 2 жыл бұрын

What about when you FTP games over Ethernet, is that faster now?

@nubialeon5228 Жыл бұрын

I keep seeing people argue about the fact PS3 doesn’t support trim and it’ll break. Did you have this issue?

@michaelgould1706 Жыл бұрын

Don’t feel too bad about the save games I had the same trouble too. I had about 225 saves but only 197 would copy as a lot are copy protected on the main dashboard. I used MultiMan on file browser and backed the whole save folder to usb to sort that. Trying to clone the hard drives, is it possible to jailbreak say a fat and slim ps3 use the Ethernet port with cable and use the ps3 transfer facility? I was wondering as I know you can do that with official PS3’s

@dnyandevkadakolmath8673 2 ай бұрын

I have a jailbroken ps3 so my question is if i directly put the new ssd in the ps3 and start it will i have to jail break it again?

@michaelgould1706 2 ай бұрын

@@dnyandevkadakolmath8673 once you jailbreak a console it’s done completely and as I’m aware the custom firmware flashes onto the board not actually on the hard drive. So when you put any new drive in the only thing that will happen it will ask you to format the new drive as each PS3 has a code they kind of stamp onto it for that copy protection lark. You shouldn’t have to re jailbreak or put new custom firmware on. If you put the official firmware back on then you will loose your jailbreak so make sure you don’t do that.

@at-cj2iy 2 жыл бұрын

SSDs been around for 20 years cant believe we the poor population can finally afford it I remember that shit around 2003 at a electronics store it was in a weird computer

@MH-pe3di 11 ай бұрын

Huge difference!

@shorty808100 2 жыл бұрын

I SSD *( 512gb Inland Pro 520/450 read/wright )* swapped my PS3 you gotta backup your PS3 if you have stuff you wanna save, mine installed fine

@TheWingrider92 2 жыл бұрын

ayyy, Project Diva F 2nd is my fav rhythm still

@mrlopez7173 Жыл бұрын

Difference is minor but if you want a quieter console and decent load times . Also ssd are cheaper now

@dnyandevkadakolmath8673 2 ай бұрын

Will i have to jail break it again when i put in the new ssd?

@NickFlack 2 жыл бұрын

Hybrid drive or ssd which better? I just play some exclusive not 3rd party.

@TheMadface80 2 жыл бұрын

Definitely SSD regardless. With hybrids, it's a bit of a gamble whether you'll get the full speed, since most hybrids try to learn your usage habits and will cache those in the SSD part, which means it will be thrown off when you start playing a different game and will therefore load at HDD speeds. With an SSD, you're guaranteed to always have the speed boosts.

@QuestionTheTruth 2 жыл бұрын

DAMN! Nearly TWO MINUTES!

@LuizBarotto 3 жыл бұрын

Hey! Your GTAV are digital or disc installed?? Thanks for the video. :)

@TheMadface80 3 жыл бұрын

All these games, including GTAV, are full digital downloads or backups. I'm not sure how well this would work on disc, it depends on how much of the game installs in the hard drive.

@LuizBarotto 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMadface80 trying out games with a disc on the SSD would make a great video. :D

@BMPK 2 жыл бұрын

@@LuizBarotto I'd say avoid it

@racoononinternet2132 2 жыл бұрын

You could have tried to clone the hdd with GParted

@themissinfowar6629 Ай бұрын

How much faster is the loading the PS store? That’s far slower then loading most games

@chrisitzsimple4649 2 жыл бұрын

How do I backup my ps3 games?

@elfenlied9091 2 жыл бұрын

does it increase performance or graphics on games or is it just loading times ?

@Kemia_ 2 жыл бұрын

No graphics increase. Only load times. Two totally separate areas

@romario_garaias 2 жыл бұрын

It does help with textures in games where pop in is very noticeable.

@ikmalsyafiq8978 2 жыл бұрын

Does ssd will improve some fps game?

@JcTYT 2 жыл бұрын

I have a lot of questions. 1. Can you download ps3 OS on SSD cleanly or do you have to clone? 2. What is thr size of the ssd 2.5? 3. How can you back up load saves? 4. what is your ssd in the video?

@wixxzblu 2 жыл бұрын

1.yes just reinstall the OS with the official firmware from Sony's website using a USB drive. 3. Most save files can be backed up using the built in recovery tool. If they can't be backed up (like killzone 2), you need to jailbreak the PS3 and use a third party save backup tool.

@JcTYT 2 жыл бұрын

@@wixxzblu I am now discouraged. Seeing as how assassins creed 4 run theough ps3hen so choppy and stuttery.

@wixxzblu 2 жыл бұрын

@@JcTYT I don't have HEN, but why would black flag run bad?

@JcTYT 2 жыл бұрын

@@wixxzblu idk it feels bad. I juet 100% AC3 on disc and it feels so different. AC4 is stuttery and feels 10fps rather than 30

@jspantonio8807 2 жыл бұрын

@@JcTYT Maybe your HDD is dying

@malinkifox2011 Жыл бұрын

Good video you’re pretty funny too 😂

@issasgss2891 2 жыл бұрын

What about the frame passing and pop in, is it better?

@NyneIX9 2 жыл бұрын

Pop in is better. I don't know what frame passing is.

@anishps3 3 жыл бұрын

Haha you sound like ricegum bro Any way nice video This is what i m looking for i want to use ssd in my ps3

@Timmyval123 2 жыл бұрын

thankyou !

@justinwoosley3188 Жыл бұрын

Did you notice any difference in the games frame rate wise? Do they feel smoother on the ssd,

@TheMadface80 Жыл бұрын

I don't think so. I don't think I've felt a frame rate difference at all, actually. I think the frame rate can't get higher anyways because at that point, the bottleneck is the CPU (especially with demanding titles like GTA), so making the drive faster only improves loads times and that's about it.

@justinwoosley3188 Жыл бұрын

@@TheMadface80 oh okay thank you I appreciate the response,

@ll3yWanTeD Жыл бұрын

@@TheMadface80 better and faster system restoration and formatting, also. and backups should be faster on a SSD original.

@giantstorm3717 7 ай бұрын

@@TheMadface80 no the main bottleneck on 99% of the ps3 games are coming from the rsx chip.

@Im-zp7tu Жыл бұрын

gta v on ps3 when i was a kid but can keep my patient on the loading screen, on pc im not.

@Zorklis 2 жыл бұрын

Interesting video even if brief

@moeabdo3114 Жыл бұрын

Thx ♥️🙏🏻

@Ps3RetroTv 6 ай бұрын

hddrawcopy clones drive i cloned my 40gb to 320gb but on;ly let me use 40gb until i formated drive in sytem settings gave me the full 320gb obv drive was blank but lets u change drive without controller and safe mode

@Durrutitv 2 жыл бұрын

You can absolutely clone a PS3 drive with hdd raw copy tool, np.

@CrispyStrahan 3 жыл бұрын

Haha the gta5 was so long without it

@ENNEN420 Ай бұрын

Cool fact: if you take the 3 minutes to get used to command line, you can just do all the things those sus adware infested programs did in one pre-installed application.

@TheMee147 2 жыл бұрын

I have a question about the softmod part. Will I have to set up cfw again once I changed the drive? And if so, how would I do so at best?

@jeffreypeters5578 2 жыл бұрын

I just swapped my hdd for a bigger one and yes i redone the mod but its super simple to do.Im running evilnat which is for the latest ps3 firmware.Just updated your ps3 official fireware on new hard drive then watch this video because not all ps3 is able to do cfw and you may have to do hfw hen which is half modded and you will have to run everytime you reboot but its only done by clicking on a couple apps already once to download it.Watch this kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9KUnbqDrK6Up3U.html .................Now he will explain if and what ps3 can do cfw . If yours cant then watch this for ps3 hen kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rq2DkrWq3cWbomw.html

@kkqc6347 3 жыл бұрын

hey you. cool videos

@Qewqe Күн бұрын

I also changed to 256gb ssd palion from 160gb Toshiba and loading times got faster like in Minecraft, NFS MW2 or Gran Turismo 5 and 6 and I use HDD to backup ps3 when playing NFS cus it can crash when saving

@Cart1416 Ай бұрын

i think it's better to use dd on linux to clone the drive

@neatt3815 2 жыл бұрын

Would I see the same improvement on a phat ps3? I was going to just buy a non SSD 1tb since everyone says that SSD is pointless, but your video is proof that it improves load times.

@donaldthompson4044 2 жыл бұрын

You only need to fill 256MB of ram. An ssd can easily load that quickly.

@maskednil 2 жыл бұрын

What kind of a dirty ass PS3 is this lol!

@randomweirdyoutubechannel8955 2 жыл бұрын

holy shit the ssd difference on GTA

@cellardoor9882 2 жыл бұрын

GTA load times will be the same when playing from the disc, right?

@TheMadface80 2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be able to give you a definitive answer to this one. It depends on how much of the game is copied to the SSD when you use the disc. It's definitely not going to be as fast as having the whole thing in the SSD, that's for sure.

@PhilipMarcYT 2 жыл бұрын

Only by 6:35 we actually see the comparison. The SSD makes a difference, but honestly not that much. Thanks, anyway.

@shomasuda4675 3 жыл бұрын

Have you gotten Mikku-Miku!?😄

@foxyridergaming9198 2 жыл бұрын

make use more fast ssd samsung evo...

@simplyslow_ 2 жыл бұрын

not you throwing f in the trash 💀💀💀 but honestly you should as f2nd exists 🥰

@kakarot3 6 ай бұрын

I'm maxing my ps3 out after seeing this. Are people seriously saying there's not much difference? SSD are pretty cheap now in 2024. Obviously disc games will make little to no difference but most people use digital now.

@5aldl 3 жыл бұрын

Is soft moding a ps3 hard? And if not, will I be able to play online? + not being banned or something

@at-cj2iy 2 жыл бұрын

playing online with mods will always risk a permanent ban but sony doesnt give a fuck about PS3 anymore youll be fine

@5aldl 2 жыл бұрын

@@at-cj2iy thanks for the reply😂😂

@SprunkCovers 2 жыл бұрын

soft moding a PS3 is absurdly easy lol, is kind of similar to the PSP method of soft moding

@jhonram2496 2 жыл бұрын

Soft modding is easy all you really need is an usb drive. Also you can play online with a softmod ps3 but you'd have to add software on it kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aqmBrbCZ3OCviZc.html

@greatestgamer00 2 жыл бұрын

Ahh yes a fellow weeb with an ssd ps3

@johngungaming749 2 жыл бұрын

Is 250gb ssd enough for my slim?

@TheMadface80 2 жыл бұрын

It should be enough for a couple of games. PS3 games back then weren't as big as they are now, so I'd say you should try it and see how many games you can fit in there. It's all about experimentation.

@capn.c5321 Жыл бұрын

Wow. That's a huge huge difference with GTA 5

@NatalozGayming 2 ай бұрын

Changing the HDD to an SDD on PS3 doesn't make much of a difference with disc games, this is because the blu-ray drive.

@javiersaenz1040 2 жыл бұрын

Does ssd improve fps?

@nightknight445 2 жыл бұрын

Nope. It only speeds up load times.

@at-cj2iy 2 жыл бұрын

It will keep it steady most of the time it wont fall much

@kevincruz290 2 жыл бұрын

The performance of the ps3 workload would be done by the cell prosessor, the ssd upgrade would just allow you to install more storage to the system, faster load times and more games can be saved depending on the capacity storage you buy.

@SprunkCovers 2 жыл бұрын

Sometimes it does stabilize the framerate, but depends on the game

@kaizoku8575 2 жыл бұрын

@@SprunkCovers not on no damn 30fps console

@user-zd9yh9rf3l 3 жыл бұрын

Can u tried m.2 on PS3?

@TheMadface80 3 жыл бұрын

I might try, but I don't think the results would be much different. The PS3 drive uses SATA and has no native m.2 ports. Even if I used an m.2 to SATA adapter, I would be bottlenecked by the SATA port and would therefore have pretty much the same speeds that I have with a SATA SSD. At least that's what I think

@user-zd9yh9rf3l 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheMadface80 hmmm I wish that was wrong

@Hummtaro 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-zd9yh9rf3l M.2 does not even say anything about the connection! A M.2 card can have USB, PCI-E, SATA and other connections. A lot M.2 SSDs on market are actually SATA. The faster ones you probably mean are called NVMe and they don't have to be in M.2 form factor. And TheMadface80 is completely right: Converting NVMe to SATA will not make much sense, especially not in PS3, which does not have SATA3 but a even slower SATA1 port..

@SuikaIbuki 2 жыл бұрын

with adpapter yes, but you wont see better performange cause the ps3's sata interface is SATA 2 so any cheap ssd will work great so not really worth the money to spend on a expensive ssd

@tek_lynx4225 23 күн бұрын

0 diff and low endurance modem ssd drive the ps3 will have a field day destroying quickly due to how it handles its files. Even the hard drives that came with the PS3 ran at a fraction of their true speed cause of it.

@Bigmike8754 Жыл бұрын

Usb hdd are cheap you should of back them up

@b3c5 5 күн бұрын

NEVER film dirty plastic with flash on...

@TheMadface80 5 күн бұрын

@@b3c5 2:18

@b3c5 5 күн бұрын

@@TheMadface80 oh sorry i didnt know

@TheMadface80 5 күн бұрын

@@b3c5 Nah, in retrospect, I should've used a white paper to soften the light. No flash was too dark to see the PS3, and with flash it was extremely bright. I just need to learn to use light filters better.

@b3c5 5 күн бұрын

@@TheMadface80 ok

@BIGwillTHEGAME 2 жыл бұрын

Ok cool

@AndresMedina1 Жыл бұрын

Ps 🎄

@senzium 3 ай бұрын

jesus clean ur ps3

@thecursedmodder1 Жыл бұрын

Bro why with the miku

@TheMadface80 Жыл бұрын

Religious reasons 🙏

@normalguy5725 Жыл бұрын

If i remember correctly , the ps3 is limited at sata 1 , so even if u install a sata 3 ssd the speed will be limited to sata 1 speed i think .

@pulp2560 2 жыл бұрын

The loading of GTA 5 is a joke?

@swifty040 2 жыл бұрын

LOL you sounded like kid before I saw your face

@akhlaq510 Жыл бұрын

@bluestripe8 2 жыл бұрын

Man has a prebuilt NOOO

@TheMadface80 2 жыл бұрын

If you're talking about my PC, it's not a pre-built. Although I can see why you would think that. The case did come from a pre-built (iBUYPOWER Snowblind Element), but I got the case empty as part of a trade. I then just built my PC using the case. I mainly wanted the case because of the gimmick, which is the fact that the side panel is an LCD screen. But yeah, I got the case without any internal components (aside from the fans).

@KokoroKatsura Жыл бұрын

prebuilts aren't so bad nowadays, (fancy dedicated gpu on them)

@lostmammal8065 3 ай бұрын

Gay

@TheMadface80 3 ай бұрын

Your mother

@GlassICE 2 жыл бұрын

You cannot actually clone a console's hard drive with a PC genius it's Encrypted and any temper with it results in data corruption All u can really do is to backup your saves to an external hard drive via the PS3 itself

@VolcanicProtectorMan 2 жыл бұрын

Actually there is a program you can use to clone it on the PC. I have done this before but I don't remember what it called I did it a few years ago