I Created the Retroid Pocket 3+ | RP3+ Review

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Taki Udon

Taki Udon

Күн бұрын

The Retroid Pocket 3+ is one of the most popular gaming handhelds out there today. In this video, I go over how it was made.
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Intro - 00:00
The Original Pitch - 01:10
Design Stage - 02:15
Unboxing & Color Options - 04:39
Input Buttons - 07:02
Boot Screen / Background - 11:18
New User Experience / ROM Launcher - 14:56
Conductive Rubber vs. Dome Switches - 18:36
Screen Tests - 21:59
Sound Tests - 24:55
Android Gaming - 26:57
N64 Emulation - 28:37
Dreamcast Emulation - 29:47
PSP Emulation - 30:30
Vita Emulation - 31:08
3DS Emulation - 31:59
GameCube Emulation -33:11
Wii Emulation - 35:19
PS2 Emulation - 36:40
NS Emulation - 37:36
Pros & Cons - 38:17
Closing Thoughts - 44:13
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@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
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@hunam3876
@hunam3876 Жыл бұрын
That's what she said.
@NichoMania2
@NichoMania2 Жыл бұрын
I just wish they’d add GameCube colored buttons to their indigo colored versions now, like a green A and red B. once that’s added, I’d be stoked. 😊
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
You wouldn't think so, but stuff like that makes manufacturing more costly and complicated. I agree though.
@X862go
@X862go Жыл бұрын
that is a very sexy handheld !
@SRC267
@SRC267 Жыл бұрын
🍿🍿
@christiankojongian
@christiankojongian Жыл бұрын
Ah, so you're responsible too for the rp3+ horrible start&select placement?
@TechThusiast
@TechThusiast Жыл бұрын
Lol
@johnbillings5260
@johnbillings5260 Жыл бұрын
😂
@prod.juicebox
@prod.juicebox Жыл бұрын
Nah they kept them in storage for so long that's why they were defective
@CigsInABlanket
@CigsInABlanket Жыл бұрын
And saving Retroid 50 cents by not putting decent joysticks in it?
@prod.juicebox
@prod.juicebox Жыл бұрын
@@CigsInABlanket the joysticks are alright they really could've been better
@robotduck77
@robotduck77 Жыл бұрын
You didn't create the RP 3+, stop with click baiting
@Sheepy007
@Sheepy007 Жыл бұрын
Sounds to me more, like you just gave consulting input on something.
@jeejbeej
@jeejbeej Жыл бұрын
Super interesting to hear your inside perspective. But I can't help but feel there's a lot of information missing. It's very vague what your role was at Retroid. From the video I get the impression that you were an external advisor. But that wouldn't match with saying you 'created' it, and in the comments you say otherwise. So what is it? Were you employed by the company? Did they temporarily hire you? What did you do, exactly? Didn't others contribute? Claiming to have created the device requires some explanation. Otherwise you can't expect people to believe it.
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
That's why I said this video could have been 5 hours long.
@Xpndable
@Xpndable Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon I'm sorry, but unless you wrote the code, designed the shell, sourced the parts, created the electrical schematic and printed the PCBs, then you can't say you created the whole device, let alone any single component. A lot more goes into creating the device than picking an SoC and shell design from someone else's output. Moreover, it takes away from the people that actually did that work.
@Person-q8n
@Person-q8n 5 ай бұрын
@@TakiUdonwhy couldn’t you answer any of this person’s questions? lol
@John-jc3ty
@John-jc3ty Жыл бұрын
what is your relationship with the company? you say a lot that you did this and that and i find it confusing
@mythrid12
@mythrid12 Жыл бұрын
For someone who's claiming to have designed this device you sure say "I don't know how this ended up this way" A LOT. Sounds like maybe you weren't as involved as you thought?
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
Software changed a lot after I stopped reviewing alpha/beta builds. That all seems to have gotten worse.
@kongchho8547
@kongchho8547 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! He provided input but he titled the video to make it seem like he was the mastermind and sole person responsible.
@Chazz-Gaming
@Chazz-Gaming Жыл бұрын
Love my Retroid Pocket 3+. Its a solid device, especially with the Vita buttons mod. Would love to see a more powerful version in the future, similar if not the same design with analogue triggers and better thumb sticks.
@YourLifeWillForeverBeALie
@YourLifeWillForeverBeALie 9 ай бұрын
Is it good for cloud gaming? Is it worth it to buy today?
@Chazz-Gaming
@Chazz-Gaming 9 ай бұрын
@YourLifeWillForeverBeALie I love this thing, and yes Xbox Game pass is playable. However, the screen is a little small for modern titles. My two cents would be to look for something with a touch bigger screen if cloud gaming is important, perhaps Ayn Odin?
@YourLifeWillForeverBeALie
@YourLifeWillForeverBeALie 9 ай бұрын
​@@Chazz-Gaming This was very helpful, I like the Retroid pocket however I am going to look into other options as well. However I am considering purchasing a Retroid Pocket. Thank you!
@rassular
@rassular 6 ай бұрын
You got exactly what you wanted lol
@02stampede
@02stampede Жыл бұрын
I've owned nearly a dozen retro handhelds and the RP3 design is my favorite by far. I remember thinking when I got a switch lite that if somebody created a retro device like it, they would fly off the shelves.
@suhtangwong
@suhtangwong Жыл бұрын
Except the horrible horrible horrible select/start position. Hoping someone mods it to another location.
@BanditTech
@BanditTech Жыл бұрын
@@suhtangwong I've gotten used to it, but its also because I am a huge guy, so my index finger reaches over to click them fine :P
@suhtangwong
@suhtangwong Жыл бұрын
@@BanditTech I'm 6'4 but I still have to adjust my whole hand just to press it 🤦🏼‍♂️
@Digger-Nick
@Digger-Nick Жыл бұрын
I still much prefer the staggered thumbsticks, having them symmetrical at the bottom is a terrible choice
@suhtangwong
@suhtangwong Жыл бұрын
@@Digger-Nick but, it looks amazing!
@JonathanHolt1988
@JonathanHolt1988 Жыл бұрын
Taki logic: Taki: "Hey, you should make the Mona Lisa have brown hair." Also Taki: "I created the Mona Lisa"
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
Not quite.
@IrregularInterest
@IrregularInterest Жыл бұрын
"I designed the Retroid Pocket 3! Also please ignore the fact that it looks nearly identical to a Switch Lite!"
@doublinx2
@doublinx2 Жыл бұрын
@@IrregularInterest there are only so many ways to add modern gamepad controls to a rectangular screen
@kosmosyche
@kosmosyche Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was actually waiting for the part where he was "creating" it. All I heard was I suggested, I asked, I gave feedback, I didn't like, I liked. Not quite the same tbh. lol Whining about things and asking to do better is not the same as creating.
@kongchho8547
@kongchho8547 Жыл бұрын
I agree. He provided feedback and some guidance but I'm sure there were other people who had a greater input. I honestly don't like that he purposefully titled the video misleadingly. What's so hard about just saying "Hey, I helped!". Saying you created it makes it seem like no one else helped or had any input.
@Why_Usernames
@Why_Usernames Жыл бұрын
It definitely seems like it was a returned device or a test device they never reset. The RP3+ I received had the setup screen and had no ROMs. It's my favorite handheld at the moment
@nicolasmolina8558
@nicolasmolina8558 Жыл бұрын
Same here. Mine came without a rom or a SD.
@sekiun
@sekiun Жыл бұрын
same here! i got a blank RP3 and RP3+ earlier this year. it's still questionable to say the least (that taki would get a refurbished device)..
@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77
@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 Жыл бұрын
Did you buy it in China?
@nicolasmolina8558
@nicolasmolina8558 Жыл бұрын
@@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 In January, trough the retroid page. For that price, it was my best bet in south América. I earn around $400 bucks each month in what Is here a good paying job, so a Odín was not an option.
@Yixdy
@Yixdy Жыл бұрын
​@@nicolasmolina8558 are you guys in mainland china? Your English is very good! Or did you not watch the video? Lmao
@stochastical5183
@stochastical5183 Жыл бұрын
I got two rp3+ for my three and five year old. It's great as it the perfect size for little hand and cheaply user repairable. I curate their library of retro games and android games. I need to work on their frontend but otherwise it great. As a parent, access to retro games and play store without worrying about cameras and facetime elements has been a great feature.
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
Including a camera would have been good for the local market, but I have some of the same thoughts as you.
@LuccaRPG
@LuccaRPG Жыл бұрын
I’m using my RP3+ now while traveling. I love the feel of it personally over the RP2+. It might be the screen. I’m old, man. That extra inch or so makes a difference. I’m also amazed at what it can do for the price. SFO airport had Wi-Fi strong enough to stream games from the Xbox cloud. Streaming games! In an airport! Like, I would never have believed it was possible a year or two ago, but here we are! Thanks, Taki.
@CleverGirlAAH
@CleverGirlAAH Жыл бұрын
Yeah. A decent screen size is key. Otherwise the visuals are just lost.
@Madblaster6
@Madblaster6 Жыл бұрын
Can you say you created the device when you’re a consultant?
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
I guess it would depend on how much the consultant did. I wasn't a consultant.
@Pridetoons
@Pridetoons Жыл бұрын
Well Anbernic did listen to many of my suggestions when they made the RG353P. I'm glad they listened.
@Madblaster6
@Madblaster6 Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon The way the video is formatted, it makes it seem it was a consulting position.
@HardcoreTanoshii
@HardcoreTanoshii Жыл бұрын
@@Pridetoons Thank you for creating the RG353P!
@johnbillings5260
@johnbillings5260 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty happy with my RP3+. The LCD is marked without a +, but it looks great and hopefully it stays that way. The rumble is very weak, but I expected that from the RP2+. I will probably add an auxiliary motor because there isn't much room to swap a larger one in.
@Marlboro-33
@Marlboro-33 Жыл бұрын
Respectfully, I disagree with your end comments. It feels like nitpicking, in my opinion. The RP3+ is the best CHEAPER handheld gaming device. There's nothing that compares to it, and it outperforms its competitors. If you're looking for a cheaper handheld that can play basically play everything up to PS1 perfectly, along with select games from higher end consoles, the RP3+ is the way to go. Not to mention the fact that the RP3+ is customizable! It truly is a great system, its kinda disappointing to hear the designer talk about it in a negative light. Still, you did a great job designing it (besides the start and select buttons, haha). Thank you! You designed a great gaming device that I, along with others, absolutely love.
@yutubvance2391
@yutubvance2391 Жыл бұрын
... ... did you though?
@jimmerseiber
@jimmerseiber Жыл бұрын
I didnt buy an rp3 or 3 plus because of your original video..but this video espeically after everyone elses is making me wish I did. This entire video imo you do not come off like you usually do. Not a good look imo
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
I don't see how, but okay.
@Stuartguitar
@Stuartguitar Жыл бұрын
I did so much research for a mobile emulator… the fact I’m playing wind waker everywhere I’ve been going for the last week is amazing… it’s enough for me.. worth it so much thank you man. I’m my fourth grade self can’t believe it’s a pocket GameCube… I remember my laptop couldn’t even run a GameCube emulator at the time and only did gba advance… it’s amazing to see the progression and seems fun to actually design something like this.. I hope you keep improving and making more
@dubljay0612
@dubljay0612 Жыл бұрын
Can you share your Windwaker settings
@Poeticbladezero
@Poeticbladezero Жыл бұрын
​@@dubljay0612I too would like to know of these settings 🙏🏽
@teenjak
@teenjak Жыл бұрын
Could you say a few words about start and select buttons? Why are they placed on the top edge?
@AntonioRodriguezSilver
@AntonioRodriguezSilver Жыл бұрын
My RP2+ and my RP3+ didn't include roms. Mine also had a screen film and I had to go through the new device setup screens. Why are experiences so different? Because Taki's was shipped to China and mine to the US?
@Tsukasa2727
@Tsukasa2727 Жыл бұрын
How did you fix the stock performance issues that you mentioned near the end of the video?
@paulcousins6535
@paulcousins6535 Жыл бұрын
So if you were partly responsible for the design of this device..... Why on earth did you chose to put the start + select buttons where they are?
@jbc6980
@jbc6980 Жыл бұрын
Wow. It took them two years to figure out how to copy the Switch Lite's design?
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
If only it was as simple as copy the Switch Lite (even if we were to say that you improve absolutely nothing from their design). I'm sure by now you'd see plenty of good clones on the market, yet none exist.
@scrubking
@scrubking Жыл бұрын
You said that there is hidden power in the device that you know how to unlock, but give absolutely no details how to do it. That is kind of important to share with the community.
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
But that doesn't get them to fix the software and this is the same software that will be used on the Flip. It's easier for them to just fix it and OTA it out to everyone, not just people who watch me talk about it.
@Tsukasa2727
@Tsukasa2727 Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon Have you let them know about the issue? Because you are the only one to even notice that there is some performance problems.
@reachhh212
@reachhh212 Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon tbh it sounds like youre just bitter about working with them because of their different business values. I couldn't care less if they decided to ship roms for the mainland market. If they listened to you, they may have a better product, but they also may not be as profitable or still around as a company. The reality is that there are corners that need to be cut to meet launch windows and problems with suppliers, and cost cutting that needs to happen to create a financially viable product. As a designer you're breaking the cardinal rule by designing for yourself and not the market. For example, not every gives a damn about retro feeling controllers. Look at the Nintendo Switch joycons. "It's supposed to be the people's brand." Really? Who decided that? You? Who are the 'people' its really designed for? I think they made the mistake of letting in a nobody with no business or engineering or design experience into their house. Sure you helped because their design vendor sucked, but if I were them I would thank you for your contribution and definitely not keep you around going forward. You holding out on adhoc software fixes just to spite them or 'get them to see the light' is just the final straw. Tired of hearing your entitled whining. "ItS eAsY tO jUsT fIx It AnD oTa." Really? Who's gonna sponsor that? Have you ever ran a technical development project? Have you ever budgeted for a development project? I'm gonna guess no. So sit down and be quiet.
@reachhh212
@reachhh212 Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon and another thing. Any moron can sit down and pick apart what is wrong with something. But if you can't come up with a solution of how to get from A to B while keeping your stakeholders happy and then execute the plan to completion, then you are just noise. No utility, just getting in the way.
@scottcurrall
@scottcurrall Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon whether or not that would be the best solution, the chances are they won't do that. so everyone who watches you and has this device would appreciate some advice on how to fix it ourselves
@Moonlighter_TV
@Moonlighter_TV Жыл бұрын
The rp3+ is basically a smaller switch lite with dumb start/select placements and pleasing Nintendo nostalgia colors. It's super efficient and comfortable so there's nothing wrong with that. It also has good power to price ratio which sounds like the main mission statement of the product even though it wasn't the $100 price point.
@Macs
@Macs Жыл бұрын
So are you working on the RPi-4(+)? I just want to know if the processor is powerfull enough for full ps2 and bit more
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
I designed a lot of stuff during the time that this was in development. Maybe one of them or part of them will be in an RP4. I don't know.
@PatrickBarnes86
@PatrickBarnes86 11 ай бұрын
I just ordered one on Saturday (my first retro handheld EVER) and watching this video has me even more excited!!!
@rocksteady140
@rocksteady140 Жыл бұрын
So you designed the switch lite too right?
@orakaa
@orakaa Жыл бұрын
*Ok, you were either dishonest in the past or you are being dishonest now.* When you promoted Retroid Pocket in the past (for RP2, RP2+ and so on) and encouraged people to buy their products, you said you had given "some input" on the design of the RP3, while presenting yourself as NOT working for them. You only started to talk about it in details when you parted ways with Retroid on the RP3 launch. Before that it was (more or less) hidden. NOW you say you CREATED the RP3 design, which means you did work for Retroid and your implication was on a much bigger scale you implied, meaning you DID have an interest in people buying their products (for a potential collaboration on a Retroid Pocket 4, 5, etc) and you were not honestly reviewing their products until you parted ways with them. When I look at the comments here and compare it to Reddit or on some other KZfaqrs' videos, I fear you'll be deleting my comment. Hope I'm wrong, but we'll see.
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
1. I did not talk about the RP3 while reviewing or making videos on the RP2/2+. 2. I did not work for Retroid. 3. People buying something that I designed/helped to build has/had zero bearing on being able to design/help to build other handhelds.
@orakaa
@orakaa Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon You reviewed the RP2 and the RP2+ and encouraged people to buy those devices. You ALSO said (on your video advising people not to buy the RP3) that the RP3 was built BEFORE the launch of the RP2+ but had been delayed for months due to major issues. Which means, based on what YOU said, that when you covered the RP2+ in your videos, you had already designed the RP3 and were actively collaborating with Retroid (something which wasn't fully disclosed until your RP3 video). There's a difference between "being sent an early copy" or "giving some advices on ergonomics" and "fully designing/creating a device" (while not disclosing your full involvement with said company when reviewing their products). So either you created the RP3 (which means you WERE working with Retroid, whether you were being paid or not), or you're tryinng to take credit for something that isn't yours. In all cases, some things don't add up in your explanations.
@NobleAbsinthe
@NobleAbsinthe 5 ай бұрын
@@orakaa Yeah I don't trust this KZfaqr
@Person-q8n
@Person-q8n 5 ай бұрын
@@TakiUdonyou didn’t work for Retroid. You didn’t create the product. Why continue the hyperbolic lie?
@ImSofaKingGood
@ImSofaKingGood Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for giving the company designs and feedback for the device, it looks amazing. Man, I can't believe my entire childhood of gaming could end up on a single pocket device someday.
@dreno360
@dreno360 Жыл бұрын
I love the retroid pocket 3 + so much that I bought a second one a few months later for co op with my wife or any visitors. Great screen/ great performance in comparison to what’s on the market.
@djb1634
@djb1634 Жыл бұрын
Since you had so much of a hand in the making of this I would love to know your opinion on the retroid pocket flip. Is there any situation where the active cooling would benefit? Does the retroid pocket 3+ have any thermal throttling? Would it be feasible to overclock the flip and take advantage of the cooling? Do you think the cooling is just a test bed for a more powerful chip set that could benefit from the cooling? Or is this just something to put on the box to make me buy it?
@suhtangwong
@suhtangwong 11 ай бұрын
The intercooling was just added feature, the rp3+ don't throttle that I notice, just buy it if you want. Ask Taki to make the rp4+ for under $75
@kellzafool
@kellzafool Жыл бұрын
It feels like he’s knocking any change they made from his original design it’s like he wasn’t included in the decision so he doesn’t like it
@CupOfNoodlesMusic
@CupOfNoodlesMusic Жыл бұрын
Daaaaaamn. I like how far the user-friendly android front ends are getting ^^ the rom setup feels very off-brand freal though. Did not expect that at all 😮‍💨
@TAGMedia7
@TAGMedia7 Жыл бұрын
Taki, is there anything that can be done about the somewhat disappointing 200ms audio lag on the RP3+? Is it due to a shortcoming in Android 11 or the RP3+ team's implementation? Is it something that could be corrected through a kernel tweak after rooting? On the same emulators and settings on my rooted Moto G7 Power running Android 12 LineageOS, there is zero discernable lag.
@TAGMedia7
@TAGMedia7 Жыл бұрын
Edit: this has been fixed in the latest firmware updates... but we solved it first via rooting and modding. ;D
@nono-yp5ng
@nono-yp5ng Жыл бұрын
Why are the start and select bottons in such a strange place?
@CleverGirlAAH
@CleverGirlAAH Жыл бұрын
I think the only thing you need to do is add some grippage on the back end to conform to natural hand/finger slack. Holding a thin square for long periods while actively moving thumbs can REALLY tire and ache. (Take it from an old gamer ;) )
@genevad4754
@genevad4754 Жыл бұрын
thank you, was considering gifting this to someone completely new to emulation (was going to configure it myself before gifting). considering the odin lite more now. great work taki!
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
It's a great device.
@TheConfiteor
@TheConfiteor Жыл бұрын
What version of Citra are you using? I’ve tried several builds and have never gotten any of the games you showed running half that well on the RP3+
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
New Citra Vulkan build on their github.
@Metal-Josh
@Metal-Josh Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the thorough review. I was leaning more towards this device vs another brand, not really sure what to get. I just know I’d like the button lay out of this model, but now I think I’m gonna wait it out for the next best thing at these prices
@tokin420nchokin
@tokin420nchokin Жыл бұрын
Stop waiting these things rock
@bakivaki
@bakivaki Жыл бұрын
I think the roms being on the sd card may be at fault of the local seller rather than the company as a whole. I haven't heard of other people receiving their rp3/+ with roms pre-installed.
@suhtangwong
@suhtangwong Жыл бұрын
Same. Not a single person. Taki should've ordered like any normal person would've.
@SykoDaddy74
@SykoDaddy74 Жыл бұрын
Listening to this video seem to me you have gripes with this company and your review reflects this I think. By the way I live in the States and purchased my RP3+ from official store and no roms were included and a lot of other things you said in this video are not the case with my device. You sound very biased indeed for someone who "Created this Device".
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
No gripes. Originally planned to have price as my only con. Everything else happened while I filmed.
@amphibiousRV
@amphibiousRV Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to echo the crowd and say that my Retroid came from the official GoRetroid store (bought in the US) and came with no ROMs or SD card, and it booted to the initial setup screen. I think your system was returned and not wiped. I love my handheld too, and it is slowly becoming my primary "console"!
@ThijsKoevoet
@ThijsKoevoet Жыл бұрын
How do you get half life games on the device? What app do you use and where can i find more info?
@SnowyFoxFox
@SnowyFoxFox Жыл бұрын
I have a Pocket 3+ on its way right now, as an upgrade from my Pocket 2+. I sincerely hope it doesn't disappoint me. But, that you were so heavily involved in its development is really encouraging. I hope Retroid start giving a toss again and fix the issues soon.
@StarRings
@StarRings 9 ай бұрын
You really screwed up with those side and start/select placement.
@Gilvin
@Gilvin Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Taiwan. I bought my RP3+ from their Taobao store and it didn’t come with a SD card or any ROM inside. But I got the information from some retrogamers here that there are some 3rd party sellers would bundle that for an extra cash, and they all come preconfigured, which will skip the config startup altogether and no screen film. I suspect that the unit you got is a return unit from one of those stores, pretty common in Chinese B2B scenarios. Love your work, I enjoy this device so much, thank you.
@LizardSteed
@LizardSteed Жыл бұрын
could the screws be too tight or something? sometimes where I work we get products that have horns and the horn will sound distorted if the screws holding the speaker in place are too tight.
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
I originally wanted to open it up to look around inside, but I thought that would have gone in a negative direction, so I scrapped it from this video.
@HartleySpurlock
@HartleySpurlock Жыл бұрын
What is the performance loss you see in the 3+? In my findings, the RP3+ has the thermal throttling disabled, and the cpu schedular is set to performance. The RP3 however was not the same case. I assumed they did this to pump up the initial reviews of the RP3+.
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
I think both of those were done to quickly combat some of the issues in the stock T618 software. I didn't test the device at that time, so I'm not sure.
@HartleySpurlock
@HartleySpurlock Жыл бұрын
​@@TakiUdon Well any technical information you can share will be greatly appreciated. I've done a lot with the RP3 and RP3+. I've already unlocked the bootloader and achieved magisk root. I've also self created and packaged full pac files for reinstalling (stock or pre-rooted) OS. A lot of things I've found in my firmware dumps seem pretty lazy. I see a lot of references to other unisoc devices, like as if they didnt even build the OS from scratch, but more of used a "kitchen" to repurpose another unisoc stock rom. I have zero experience with the dev kit from Unisoc, but I half way assume that they're not sourcing the chips directly from Unisoc. On your point of the setup wizard. My stock devices and "upgrade" kits all had the setup wizard run at first boot. My last board did not have the setup wizard, but I was using it during the unlocking process to save another board I had bricked. It was similar to your experience in the video, where first boot went straight to the OS. Another dev (Turtle) was able to get lineage to boot on the RP3, but they don't have an RP3+, so development hasn't gone much further. At some point, full OS replacement would be preferred. Also, could you possibly share what the OS version is of the firmware? I do try to keep copies of all of the software. For personal reference I just refer to the last two digits of the firmware number. I'm curious if they have separate update channels based on China/Outside of China? *.86 is the current version for the RP3+, I'd have to go look it up but I believe the RP3+ shipped with *.57 (*.50 was the current RP3 firmware at the time of RP3+ release). Mine would have been purchased outside of China.
@ColmNeligan
@ColmNeligan Жыл бұрын
I prefer the RP2 stick layout which is why I prefer my Odin Pro over my RP3. But the main reason I am cautious of the RP3+ is because I was sent a faulty RP3 & The RP3+ were up for orders within a week
@Over_Toasted
@Over_Toasted Жыл бұрын
They're coming out with a Retroid Pocket Flip now and you can expect the RP4 to come soon after. It's best to wait for when there is a big bump in power before upgrading.
@TheRealAncientCarthage
@TheRealAncientCarthage Жыл бұрын
Thank god at least one other person likes the stick on the top left. I thought I was going insane
@Lancelade
@Lancelade Жыл бұрын
@@TheRealAncientCarthage so muche better the stick on the top left, like on switch.
@MinibossMakaque
@MinibossMakaque Жыл бұрын
​@@TheRealAncientCarthageDozens of us! I get it though, dpad on top makes more sense for all 2d games. But my main target platform is N64.
@SNSReaper
@SNSReaper Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This is my first Retro handheld. I've been learning on it before I choose to get some for my kids.
@mr.pinckney
@mr.pinckney Жыл бұрын
I can tell you the unit I bought in December did not include any roms and booted a completely new install upon unboxing. Maybe this was a returned item?
@ChadWSmith
@ChadWSmith Жыл бұрын
As a proud RP3+ owner, I thank you for your hard work, sir. And, for the record, I bought mine from the source here in China, and mine came with exactly no ROMs.
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
Did you get it with an SD card? Can you share the store name with the Chinese characters?
@LucasAndrade-wh3xk
@LucasAndrade-wh3xk Жыл бұрын
I bought mine from the official store, and it didn't come with an SD card full of Roms either. I am from Brazil.
@XenithflareGaming
@XenithflareGaming Жыл бұрын
I wondered if the China-market version is the only one to include ROMs, but there seems to be some conflicting info
@LuisRivera-fd4ov
@LuisRivera-fd4ov Жыл бұрын
Where can i buy this exact one with the roms already in it? Or yours?
@youandadityahavelikedeacho694
@youandadityahavelikedeacho694 Жыл бұрын
@@LucasAndrade-wh3xk I'm sorry to hear that 😞
@jansenmccloud
@jansenmccloud Жыл бұрын
dude, i don't know if you noticed, but you get carved up on reddit for claiming your creation here.😅 I'm glad for you to be proud of your work and it's honest to build distance for implementations you didn't recommend. But isn't it a bit dangerous to tell insights about a job result you sold to retroid's property? Or is this revenge for not getting paid or something? :O
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
I didn't sell it to them. They wanted help to make a new brand and pitched this as the central product. There are other projects that I have been even more involved in than this, but there are also ones that my role ends at design, or some late stage in product development. If the ask on the manufacturer for something that I want to exist is too great (cost/time/difficulty), I'll offer up everything that I can do for free to make it happen. In many cases, the experience is invaluable. Those are usually the terms that I go for because some of the stuff that I pitch takes a significant investment. I also don't think this review is that harsh. The only real disappointment for me is seeing two issues that were claimed to have been fully addressed in response to my RP3 video (screen flickering/rambo app killing). Aside from that, it's just price. I can't be the only person who thinks this is too close to Odin pricing. As for Reddit, I don't care. I lived this and I know what I did. Half the people think I'm lying and the other half are arguing about semantics. Obviously other people worked on this too and I have talked about them before in videos, interviews, and on Discord, but you don't see any of them denying that this one was mine. If you exclude things that were outsourced (pcb layout, initial 3D modeling, heat solution, etc), the entire team that actively worked on this was on average 5 or so including me. Depending on the point of production, this number could go up (beta and RC testing had 2 people testing full-time) or down (painting & plastic injection mold testing was just me and one other person).
@chrisrivera1222
@chrisrivera1222 Жыл бұрын
Soo... how do we unlock our RP3+'s full potential when it comes to performance?
@WadeVillines
@WadeVillines Жыл бұрын
in some ways i actually think the RP2 looks "cooler" than the RP3. there's just something about it that's aesthetically pleasing
@RoastedMarshmelon
@RoastedMarshmelon 11 ай бұрын
Completely agree! I wish I could swap shells for the retro looks.
@mfmr200
@mfmr200 11 ай бұрын
rp2 look original, rp3 look like switch lite copy
@kibiz0r
@kibiz0r Жыл бұрын
"I created the Retroid Pocket 3+" Sure you did, bud. What was your R&D budget? Target BOM cost?
@ungabungus01
@ungabungus01 Жыл бұрын
He poured the plastic molds himself bro...
@ravikanodia
@ravikanodia Жыл бұрын
It's "I, I, I" when he talks about his ideas and "they, they, they" when he talks about flaws in the finished product.
@baddabaddabaddaswing
@baddabaddabaddaswing Жыл бұрын
@@ravikanodia How awfully convenient for Taki that all the issues aren't from him.
@LessonsOnTheWeb
@LessonsOnTheWeb Жыл бұрын
I really hope they bring back more funtastic colors with the flip and RP3+ . Thanks for your input for the RP products Taki. I think your input made them a lot better and now Retroid is killing it in the handheld space right now.
@Pridetoons
@Pridetoons Жыл бұрын
No they're not, they only made one good Handheld. You can't be this bad at math.
@LessonsOnTheWeb
@LessonsOnTheWeb Жыл бұрын
@@Pridetoons why so offended? I'm basing my assertions on the fact that Retroid sells out of their stock right away and people on their sub reddit seem pretty excited about their products.
@Pridetoons
@Pridetoons Жыл бұрын
​@@LessonsOnTheWeb I'm not offended, It's just they only came out with one good Handheld. Every handheld before this one was garbage. Retroid has a horrible Track Record when it comes to Build Quality. Also by your metric Anbernic's Win600 was "Killing it" because it sold like hotcakes when it came out and still sales to day.
@tp1382
@tp1382 Жыл бұрын
@@LessonsOnTheWeb they’re not offended, just an asshole who communicates thru condescension!
@Dubl3R
@Dubl3R Жыл бұрын
I love the rp3+ really hope a similar form factor will stay
@suhtangwong
@suhtangwong 11 ай бұрын
BUT put select and start in a SMART area 🤦🏿‍♂️
@RainyNebula
@RainyNebula 9 ай бұрын
Hey question, I’d like to make a custom into when I turn on my flip. How would I go about that if I can?
@ShamanNoodles
@ShamanNoodles Жыл бұрын
Love my rp3+ Pretty device and functions incredibly well for it's price point
@thgr8one
@thgr8one Жыл бұрын
I think you got a bunk unit. I purchased mine brand new from GoRetroid, and mine did not come with an SD card or any pre-loaded rims. My unit also booted up directly to the setup guide, rather than going to the Home screen. Not sure what’s up with your order but I don’t think it’s a new unit.
@AlexRubio
@AlexRubio Жыл бұрын
What's the wait time for shipping in the u.s I heard it can take up to two weeks? Thanks guys
@MrScottyTay
@MrScottyTay Жыл бұрын
the only thing that stops me from getting the rp3 is the placement of the start and select buttons, that one thing would make it a must buy for me, but without I steer waaay clear from it.
@Joey-nt4xr
@Joey-nt4xr Жыл бұрын
I'm happy retro actually listened to your design inputs, I love your vids and often visit your reviews as I trust your word. Quick question though- Would the sticks get the same drift that the NS has? Or have they found a way around it
@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77
@RICHUNCLEPENNYBAGS77 Жыл бұрын
The hall sensors would fix that
@papachulo6801
@papachulo6801 Жыл бұрын
My rp3+ will be here in about two weeks. Will these games you showcased be on them from start up? Mainly want to replay Pokémon
@Hyestar
@Hyestar 9 ай бұрын
Where do you get the high end ports? (Half Life, Counter Strike COD2?) Thx
@Andyyy982
@Andyyy982 Жыл бұрын
Taki, I'd love to see you review the Odroid Go Ultra. I think that with your insights into the industry and knowledge of the inner workings of these devices you would be able to a offer a fresh perspective. Thanks for the great content!
@wordsmith451
@wordsmith451 Жыл бұрын
It's not even worth a look. Especially with devices on the horizon like the KT R1
@Andyyy982
@Andyyy982 Жыл бұрын
@@wordsmith451 completely disagree since I own one. Unfortunately some reviewers wrote off the device before it even had cfw. It's definitely worth consideration. Especially being significantly cheaper than its competitors and receiving updated kernel support as we speak. It's also primarily a Linux device vs the Android devices that you're taking about.
@retroman--
@retroman-- Жыл бұрын
@@Andyyy982 I love Hard Kernel but I have the Odroid Go Advance and its not made as well as the chinese devices and the reviewers seem to have said the same for the OGS and OGU. I would love to support them over a chinese company but until the make a good quality handheld I'm not going to buy one from them.
@spronkey
@spronkey Жыл бұрын
The issue with all the odroid products is the quality of build and inputs. I had an OGS, and it was by far the worst quality for dpad, buttons, and analogue sticks out of any of the other handhelds I owned at the time (V90, Pocketgo s30, rg351p). Screen wasn't particularly good either, poor viewing angles.
@Andyyy982
@Andyyy982 Жыл бұрын
@@retroman-- That's a different story entirely. For one the OGA was the first RK3326 handheld, as such it is responsible for a lot of the handhelds we see today as those companies all really established themselves in that era. Secondly, the OGA was a DIY kit. It was designed with simplicity in mind to help encourage assembly and a greater understanding of your devices. The OGA BE was one of the first handhelds to come with built-in wifi and it did so without any of the caveats of others like the Anbernic RG351p which was plagued with interference owing to their wifi chip placement. The OGS saw a bump in quality as it was no longer a DIY kit, despite what naysayers say. The screen was lovely, although some folks did get unit that appeared a little more washed out. But again that's still the state of handheld gaming from all of these companies from ayn to Retroid and everyone in between. The problem is some influential reviewers let loose opinions that weren't subjective, which lead to this gross misunderstanding of the quality of the Odroid products. Which in my experience of owning several Anbernic and Odroids, the Anbernic devices have been far more problematic. The RG351P I have was plagued with battery and button issues. The screen is dim. It's a dog, I've had to open it up multiple times. When I finally found the root of the trouble, it was because the battery contacts weren't soldered to the board they were just pushed together with some kapton tape over the contacts. Which is very poor assembly. I have since soldered the contacts and now the device charges and performs as it should. I've never really had cause to open my OGAs or OGS or even my OGU. I only did when I felt like spicing things up with colorful buttons, or in one case membranes.
@ricardofranco4114
@ricardofranco4114 Жыл бұрын
This dude mad cuz this company packed their console with roms, and didn't do exactly what he wanted them to do xD!
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
Yes, because I like the company and I do not want them to face legal action that would close the company. Is that bad?
@colbymehmen
@colbymehmen Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon Going off the title of your video.. it sounds like you put the ROMs on there.
@mattakash3034
@mattakash3034 Жыл бұрын
Right now I can purchase the RP3 on amazon for 120$, 3Gb ram, with prime shipping. Do you think it is worth it to spend the extra 40-50$ on the RP3+ and wait the 2-4 weeks shipping from china? I have never purchased an emulator before, so this would be the first one. I'm leaning towards the RP3 right now, because of the price difference and shipping time. Is the extra performance worth the wait and price?
@xgodlyassassin-8305
@xgodlyassassin-8305 Жыл бұрын
Should I get the RP3+ or hold off for a better device like maybe a RPflip plus or an entire diff handheld? I mainly want to run PS2 games smooth as possible
@JamesMiller-xi3wt
@JamesMiller-xi3wt Жыл бұрын
No roms included on mine and got it straight from the store (ordered mid Jan, arrived mid Feb). So unless they've suddenly changed how they do things in the past few weeks, surely it's more likely that they used the SD card and roms for testing and forgot to remove it and reset to factory settings before shipping (they have been extremely busy lately with a huge backlog after CNY so possibly just an oversight due to being so busy)?
@pfroo40
@pfroo40 Жыл бұрын
This is clearly a domestic localization thing, SD with ROMs being provided for customers in China, and not overseas.
@patsk8872
@patsk8872 Жыл бұрын
Most likely illegal to sell any device with roms; some companies try to sidestep it by saying the roms are on an SD card which is not shipped in the system. But I doubt that would hold up in court and they're mainly protected by being overseas.
@KikiAelita
@KikiAelita Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the walk through on process here that made it more than just a review, but also a bit of a narrative. I'm currently in the indecision research hole of how much to spend and what to buy for that money, ranging from unreleased KT-R1, RP3+, Odin Lite, or Steam Deck. I appreciate the further context on the RP 3+... it seems like it's very, very close to being able to do everything that would satisfy me (GC at steady framerates ~30FPS at 1x or at least readable resolution). Truthfully, I prefer the size of the KT-R1, but would accept RP3+... Odin Lite isn't that much bigger, but will it cross the line of being big enough (I am a smol bodied person) that I may as well have the community experience of the Steam Deck? HM.
@lvsas
@lvsas Жыл бұрын
Is it possible that you received a model that was used for control and testing ? No rom's or SD with my RP3! I love the console especially with the Grip however the transport case is not compatible with the grip unlike the case of RP flip which should be compatible with its.
@wonow7674
@wonow7674 10 ай бұрын
You haven't used an RP3 since that old video? What have you been using instead?
@nickentros
@nickentros Жыл бұрын
I really like my RP3+ but I wish the analog stick and d-pad were swapped positions, like the RP2
@holiggan2008
@holiggan2008 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your contribution for the RP3+! I have an original "RP1" and the 3+ is leaps and bounds in terms of quality! I was ready to never get a Retroid device ever, until I saw reviews for the 3+. Fantastic work!
@GumikoVT
@GumikoVT Жыл бұрын
I'm in the US and my rp3+ didn't ship with any roms, and went directly to the setup screen when I first turned it on.
@ChristianTangoan
@ChristianTangoan Жыл бұрын
So Nintendo should be doing you for cloning the switch lite? Not sure if you should be proud of that.
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
If it was a clone of the SL, it would not have been awarded a design patent.
@mrgrumboldt
@mrgrumboldt Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon Do you have a link to the patent?
@pooter-zn2hm
@pooter-zn2hm Жыл бұрын
why didnt you bother to show the settings you used for each game? they look like they run incredibly well on your device, even better than ones in other videos that have more optimized settings than default
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
If you have something specific, I can try to help you. I generally left everything on default sans GC/Wii.
@pooter-zn2hm
@pooter-zn2hm Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon i was mostly referring to the 3DS emulation, but i later found out that the emulator constantly gets updated. crazy how only a month ago most games were barely playable
@_ericc.
@_ericc. Жыл бұрын
If it makes you feel better, mine shipped properly, with no roms or anything like that. I play it all the time and I love it.
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
It does, I wanted everything to be above-board.
@_ericc.
@_ericc. Жыл бұрын
Understandable. I would feel similarly in your position and I really did think that retroid these days has been above board. Especially because I had a very good experience. Booted to the startup wizard, no roms preloaded, I even (stupidly) ordered during CNY and the customer support responded when they got back from break. Regardless, good work on this system. It’s been getting a lot of use over here.
@dieselx999
@dieselx999 Жыл бұрын
I think my rp3+ is such a great emulator handheld I hope they make a stronger one to play all emulator games and a fan for cooling. The colors and buttons are all great and if they just make the rp4 or a rp4 max that might be a little bit more money but plays everything it would be the best in the market imo
@Krypto84
@Krypto84 Жыл бұрын
Mine arrived with faulty L1 and L2 buttons. Between my email asking for a fix, and their reply (reply was "prove it via video" - not the best customer service tbh) I got a steam deck. Not sure I can be bothered going through the pettiness of their CS now tbh.
@tomoprime217
@tomoprime217 Жыл бұрын
It's a long winded confusing "No" folks. Being a long time fan, I must say, I was served my 1st Taki Word Salad.
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
I don't believe there's a single person at this company that would say otherwise, sorry.
@RizzlinHD
@RizzlinHD Жыл бұрын
who is responsible for the position of the start/select buttons though??
@iamCifu
@iamCifu Жыл бұрын
If what he's saying is true, then he is also responsible for the horrible start select placements.
@reddou-kun6006
@reddou-kun6006 Жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, Taki!
@g3t0ffmebrogaming
@g3t0ffmebrogaming Жыл бұрын
I'm curious. How did you get Half Life:Episode One and Two on it? If you could point me in the right direction it would be appreciated
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
There is a github page for Sceng and a Discord server that goes with it. The Discord server has the apk files that you need.
@arkanciscan
@arkanciscan Жыл бұрын
Do the people who *actually* built this care that you're taking credit for it?
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
Considering that I *actually* created this, no. The relevant people don't care about that at all.
@arkanciscan
@arkanciscan Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon ::i-made-this.gif::
@Ramen.Numerals
@Ramen.Numerals Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon You created a video bro. You're about as responsible for this product as I am for Arby's restocking the sauce after talking to the manager.
@Sar1386
@Sar1386 Жыл бұрын
As many have said in the past the design is basically a Nintendo switch light. Which is a design many of these retro handhelds seem to copy if not doing a Gameboy style. So basically nothing too innovative just copying Nintendo for the most part. I find in interesting that he mentioned other companies bringing out devices every few months when that’s exactly what retroid did with this handheld and that’s why so many customers are annoyed right now who only just recently got there retroid 3. Regardless what device everyone has I hope they enjoy plays it.
@TheHighsea
@TheHighsea Жыл бұрын
I’m still really happy with my tp2+ but this video was incredibly helpful for buying decisions
@pinzon_rk
@pinzon_rk Жыл бұрын
I'm a proud owner of a rp3, love the console form, size and performance. I wish it was a little more ergonomic, my right thumbs cramps after a while. either way it's the best (also first) retro console I've owned.
@thomasbryans6547
@thomasbryans6547 Жыл бұрын
In all my reading on the RP3+ I’ve never heard of it coming pre-installed with roms. I did hear an aftermarket store adding them in, but never from the official store
@liamjamesevans
@liamjamesevans Жыл бұрын
Must be because he bought it in China
@GetOffMyyLawn
@GetOffMyyLawn Жыл бұрын
I really like the RP2+ and will hold off for another generation before upgrading. The only RP2+ complaint I can come up with is that it it can be little uncomfortable for longer sessions. The buttons still feel good, the screen ratio works for all of the systems i use, and i like the smaller form factor despite the comfort issues. What I would like to see is a 4:3 screen in a shortened RP3+ style body with a next gen performance upgrade.
@ardentresolve8184
@ardentresolve8184 Жыл бұрын
There’s the upcoming anbernic rg 405 that might work for you then
@RandomizationShow
@RandomizationShow Жыл бұрын
If you already use android phone I recommending getting the galaxy z fold 4, with a gamesir x2 Bluetooth controller. It is 4:3, has a beautiful screen and some of the lowest input lag I've experienced on an android. It also has a Snapdragon 8 gen 2 which has plowed through every emulator I've thrown at it. I've yet to test switch but it should plow through a fair portion of that too. I searched for the right handheld for years and was surprised this folding iPad thing beats everything on the market 😂
@paulie-g
@paulie-g Жыл бұрын
@@RandomizationShow Erm, it retails for ~$1700.
@RandomizationShow
@RandomizationShow Жыл бұрын
@@paulie-g I'm on a payment plan like any other phone. Which is why I specified if you already used android phones
@AlexDenton0451
@AlexDenton0451 Жыл бұрын
I'm with you on Waiting 1 more Gen, maybe 2. We're so close to a pocketable handheld being able to emulate PS2. The hardware is out there, it just needs to become affordable.
@Kiahona
@Kiahona Жыл бұрын
Taki, since you have such a high level of involvement with retroid can you say if the bootloader is unlockable? I've had my eye on picking you up a retro Android powered handheld, (preferably from retroid) but I would like the device to remain updated and secure much longer than I feel any of these handheld companies will support their Android builds
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
It's unlockable, but only if they did not customize the encryption. If it's stock, you can unlock and flash something else, but I don't know if they locked it down.
@ThePsychoghost
@ThePsychoghost Жыл бұрын
🤔 So how do you unlock the full potential of the unit🤔
@plim-sj6jv
@plim-sj6jv Жыл бұрын
Great video taki. Would it be possible for you to make a guide to fix those untapped perfomance issues? Could it be related to the issue where the performance jumps after you put the device to sleep for 30 seconds?
@TakiUdon
@TakiUdon Жыл бұрын
It might be related, but I haven't checked. I'm waiting to see if the company will address this in an OTA.
@chrisrivera1222
@chrisrivera1222 Жыл бұрын
​@@TakiUdon But, could you tell us what the problem is, so we can all get more performance out of our device?
@purplyeti
@purplyeti Жыл бұрын
@@TakiUdon I've come back to this video to make sure that you did say that you'd make an update on this issue. So did they fix it in the OTA update?
@jakeliujakeliu
@jakeliujakeliu 6 ай бұрын
So what is the screen issue on 39:53 ? I couldn’t tell anyone can tell me?
@retrominimalist
@retrominimalist Жыл бұрын
Got my Indigo RP3+ literally yesterday. Couldn't stop trying to understand if the plastic is good or bad quality 😁 Now this video drops literally hours later....
@wind369
@wind369 Жыл бұрын
I am disappointed about the problems the retropocket3+ is having and was going to buy one thank you for this amazing review I will just wait until the 3+ is improved or until they make a pocket 4
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