piracy never has been theft. its only copyright infringement.

congrats you know what a period is

Piracy isn't theft anyways because you can't steal something that can be recopied.

your right, its not, piracy is legally considered a different crime just as purchasing a digital good is legally considered different owning, you don't own things digitally (nor have you ever) and because there is no way to legally own a digital good you can't steal a digital good, you can pirate it, which is a different crime piracy isn't theft, its piracy, but its still a crime

minecraft is very easy to play for free lol

I couldn't even log in to my account for some reason and couldn't change my password

You should have emailed mojang then

@@eric11 It is extremely annoying and difficult to do that sometimes. They hardly help you at all unless you make them, and even then it takes days. I know from experience lol. I agree this was total robbery for many people.

Womp womp

I did not get the option to migrate my account until two months before the September 19th cutoff. If I had not been following it up almost obsessively I would have missed it.

this is what happened to me but microsoft SUCK

This is what happened to me aswell. I created my account in 2011 and after a couple of years I couldn't acess my email anymore. I was writing so many emails for mojang for help but they would just "reccomend" me to buy another account

​@@FlyingVenets Blame Microsoft

I somehow managed to change emails when migrating. It's the only reason I accepted it.

Ha nice catch

Wait what? The name tag trick for mobs no longer works? If that’s the case I’m gonna be MAD

@@TheSuperJepphyKillerI think it’s just the player Dinnerbone. Not the name tag thing

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@@sumvaldebrevis No, not the player- Dinnerbone in the advertisement / announcement for migrating accounts

This basically happened to me, only i had sold the laptop i had been playing on because my ex never let me play. I only found out about the migration because i was still getting emails from mojang.

yahoo deleted my email account a long time ago and so my minecraft account went down with it. funny enough i couldnt use my old username for my new account so it must still be listed at mojang/microsoft somewhere

@@FeZerretsame here but not for minecraft, many other accounts tho are lost because of the mfs at yahoo

@@FeZerretsame here yahoo deleted my email too, started playing Minecraft in beta and was never able to recover my account where I had ranks and tons of progress on all sorts of servers, hundreds of dollars gone

Same here, lost everything

Bro if u need one account for cheap or want something let me know i will sell mine for cheap if you want

Imagine losing all your memory on a acc you had

@@VGODP yep. i dont play MC anymore but ive had my first account since i was 9 (so in 2011) and its not gone forever and i am not buying another. literally stupid

Same. Wow. Microsoft Microsofting

The problem is that for most people, a lawsuit will cost a lot more time, effort and money than a less than $30 game warrants. Just sucking it up and buying a new copy is faster, easier and cheaper. Microsoft and other companies of course are fully aware of this and so abuse the hell out of it.

Against microsoft? gl with that

But we all agreed to the arbitration clause in the terms of service. We'd never make it to court.

​@@noahpiatt No, only US residents would have to go through arbitration. And you can opt out of Arbitration. It is your legal right to do so. If you are in the US, always, always, always opt out. They don't make it easy to of course, but do so.

Yes ​@someoneelse8295 against Microsoft. What you think would be an easy win for them would be just a settlement on their end. They dont want to waste their time on small stuff and considering Mojangs EULA was violated by them it's a huge legal scandal that says "oh hey we took your money and we refuse to return it. But we'll happily take it again."

3 years is more than enough. not keeping up is your own problem

@@nevan2201 did you even watch the video

Agree

Hi beautiful man. Corporate Minecraft sux. I want my indie Minecraft back.

@@nevan2201 as said in the video life can get in the way, or you're not interested in minecraft, or you weren't informed of it.

Wait seriously? What the heck😮

Microsoft accounts also have risk on being Nuked for no reason at all.... i lost one of my alt accounts to that.

@@gasrim Me too...

Time to connect for 2 seconds

Simple solution don't be inactive

bruh please stop typing "loosing" jesus lose =/= loose ffs its 2024

@@jolowikucbel1595 settle down there buster, it’s not that big a deal.

@@jolowikucbel1595 blud is saying "bruh" while trying to teach grammer 😭😭😭

As someone whose cartridge of Pokémon Black is fucked and no longer works, that analogy hit me 😢

go get a job man

Man rip stadia, it was actually good

stop describing my life...

It's just your username. Your old worlds are not connected to it (if you even find them). You'll need to buy a new copy if you really want to play again. It's a bad move from Mojang either way and I despise it as much as any person here but I can't see what the problem is (in the sense of your username being connected to your childhood memories), especially since Mojang lets you use the name again after a certain period. Edit for the people asking me about servers: I meant my reply ONLY in the context of what OP said. With a 2011 account there are close to none servers from that age that are still online. Other than that it's a bad move from Mojang and if you used your account for servers, then yea, you'll lose em, which is also a disadvantage.

well, maybe you keep the singleplayer progress, but your data from servers is tied to your account, so it's lost with the account@@eulehund99

@@eulehund99”just buy a new copy” Fuck you. If I bought it once I should own it for goddamn ever.

That's jsut sad man

This

Then you don't need it anyway

​@@lorrdy7640or maybe he had stuff do to, like military duty. Try being an adult for once.

@@lorrdy7640even if you think that being inactive for years and coming back is outrageous, why the hell are you defending microsoft? Microsoft is literally the slimiest piece of dogshit on the face of the earth

I always had in the back of my head to make a second gaming setup and show Minecraft and other nostalgic games of my childhood to my so. You are living in a world where you don't own anything and you are happy@@lorrdy7640 Congrats happy for you live on!

THIS. this a secret corporate doesn't want people to unironically know, in a lot of cases you can ignore limitations imposed like this and challenge contracts. Corporations do it all the time against each other, after signing them.

Nice

Yes but this is not that place. Every single software/gaming company in the world has this.

@@hyui5096 By place I mean where you physically are, your local laws.

@@VixYW i see. Maybe in some place you are right. Thanks for clarifying

It's almost as if they don't care and want you to buy the game again... nah big corporations would never

it happent to me too rip :(

Same. Lost my fav account I had back in school, so I haven't bought a new one

same happened to me now i play on tlauncher

I had the same problem. I started in 2009. I bought it in 2010. In this time I never got an email. I think I made a typo in my email or used a school email. I did have the pay pall transaction email however in my main email. Despite this i got the same "we can not confirm your the owner" like all of us. I decided Minecraft is Dead to me. All my servers are useless to me now. I thought i would buy my old account back. But just don't care to give MS money anymore. I play other things now... Rip minecraft. It was a fun ride.

I was in almost the same situation, having just a few days to spare before it wouldve been gone, just i didn't even "get" the email since i dont use the email for my mojang account anymore and was just goddamn lucky to be trying to download the game for a little nostalgia trip at that time :/

real.

To be very honest, nobody is supposed to care about other's feelings. Because there will always be people who's feeling is that you have to die. What they ARE supposed to care about is to not abuse their powers and take away people's basic rights of ownership and legitimate expectations

To be completely honest in response, I find your reply distressing. You dont think people should care about other people's feelings, but you ARE concerned about ownership and "other legitimate rights?" I want to make sure I understood that correctly.​@@Meowcat2226

Sir, you're wrong. We've known that for years.

@@twistedtomato9792 uhm *actually* ... That had me cracking up. One upvote to you. :)

If we crowdfund a couple billion we could buy minecraft back and make it open source

that is sadly not gonna happen@@CopyrightStruck

i like the cherry blossom wood

@@CopyrightStruck i don't think you get how much a billion is. anyone with the kind of money to make that happen is probably a microsoft droid.

I remember all the 2014 animations of famous youtubers minecraft avatars beating up notch and bill gates and i thought they were going too far

You're comparing migrating an account to a whole ass stove? If they gave 3 years for the account then they prolly gave you like 9 plus years for an entire stove.

@@bldymna this doesn't matter, you pay for the thing you keep it. Even if they give you all the time in the world they have 0 right to take something you already paid for.

i agree with your sentiment but this was a bad analogy 😭

@@bldymnaIt doesn’t matter the cost. It doesn’t matter how much time they give you. They should not have the ability to take away something you bought, for any reason, full stop.

@@bldymnafound the microsoft shill sheepo

And if buying isnt ownership, piracy isnt thef~

​Why just copy the top comment but worse​@@core3gamegd587?

It's always been a license to the right to use them since games existed. You never owned the rights to the game. But yes, this is still BS.

When you buy a game digitally you're not actually buying the game but a license to play the game that can be revoked at any time by the license issuer. This is Clearly stated in the TOS on every storefront from steam to the Nintendo e shop. If you don't like the terms of service then don't buy digital games. It's like going to a restaurant and complaining that they won't allow you to take the food home when there's a big sign that states " NO TAKEHOME ALLOWED, SIGN THIS LETTER SAYING YOUVE READ THIS SIGN AND AGREE WITH THIS POLICY BEFORE ENTERING" I don't like it either but that's just how it is, there's nothing you or I can ever do about it either and complaining about it won't solve the issue. The guy that made this video is the exception since he makes money complaining but for the average Joe it's a fruitless endeavor

​@@KrolKazthat is not true. On GOG (for example) you actually buy the actual game installer file without DRM, meaning that as long as you're able to store the file somewhere you're the owner of your copy of the game, even if GOG ends their services.

It has always been.

piracy is protesting if buying means renting

honestly, just dont use microsoft's services at all

bluds be cryin. losing acc on purpose and then whining and making video out of it AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA XDDDD

@@scoper7897 how to say you didn't get what the video said without saying that you didn't get what the video said

😂

Darn

you shouldve wrote it different, the last was shouldve been Patient: Flat lined😂

/kill

If you were in a coma for 5 fucking years, the last thing you're gonna care about is your Minecraft account. Cry about it and grow up. It's $25, you'll be fine

i have a plan

Except that costs a lot of money and time that normal people do not have

@@16m49x3sure but it only takes one person to file the case (or a group who club together), once the case has been decided then anyone else with the same issue can claim against it.

@@16m49x3 You sure do think SalC1 is a normal human?

@@16m49x3its not about the money... its about sending a message

Eh, that'll filter out over time.

Good, the toddlers that buy or steal accounts with "cool" names need to take an L every now and then.

Cant wait for them to be deleted, I've been running a username sniper for months now just to get the name I want from an unmigrated account

based on what?@@DePhoegonIsle

who cares... its just a name

They had plans to free up a bunch of old usernames from old accounts that did not migrate... Clearly they didn't go through with this. It could he a number of issues.

⁠​⁠​⁠@@REDARROW_A_PersonalI’m will to bet there’s already pending arbitration/litigation and out of an abundance of caution they’re not deleting/clearing them. That or they’re lazy. Both are likely imo.

​@@REDARROW_A_Personalthat's an excuse for them. They don't delete these account for legal reason since they are scared someone with power sues them

they only intend to produce instability in their system to create motion. the water was still, but now they're shaking it up by stealing bucketfulls of water from the pool, polluting the pool with sewage in the form of soulless updates and abusing the wildlife that seek to enjoy the pool.

​​@@NinoJoelah yes surely someone with power will sue microsoft a multi-billion company who got there by effectively forcing their operating system onto the vast majority of the world's computers and users, that nobody can really exactly file a complaint of them being a monopoly because hey, look there's macos, hey look there's linux, but its practically one anyways because of their proprietary apis that almost every developer have grown an overreliance with therefore leading to said developers not create versions of their software on other oses because its too much of a hassle when said apis do not exist on said other os.

He was just deliberately causing drama again. He knew you had to migrate, but he chose not to so he could go Karen if he lost his account. Theres a T word for that.

@@capella5783 it was an experiment to see what would happen, specifically to make sure whether what happened to OP would happen or not.

Tbh we should file a class action lawsuit against them for this. There were people who were unable to during 3 years for good reasons, people in service, people who had temporarily lost account access, people in friggen comas woke up to losing their account on top of missing years of their life, and on top of this, the nametag is still taken even if the account is inaccessible now so they can't even buy a new license and still go with their username. Pretty easy to just keep a list of the old usernames, and then offer support until the last one is gone, they'd just train AN employee or so to be able to append the new account, and strike off that name, until the last one was marked. I call laziness/foul; play.

Oh gosh!!

Exact same thing happened to me. Last played it in 2021, decided to play this year. Can't even access the thing I paid for. Why even is this? So microsoft can farm data analytics from all their players, not just ones on bedrock?

the best part about living in brazil is that anything that restrict legal rights of the consumer in terms of agreement and EULAs in general is completely void and invalidated. a company does not have the power to override a constitutional right here. so if this happens to me, i can sue just fine, regardless of what is written on their contract

that is sad

game licenses are *never* permanent. they can be revoked, your account banned or even deleted entirely, for any reason they deem fit. that goes for every game. you could be banned from playing every last game you have, for no reason, and youd never be able to do anything, because the EULA would mention they can do that.

@@matthewbarabas3052Yep experienced this first hand. Some companies will even make it hard to try and get access to your account again even with full proof of account ownership if you lost access or been compromised. Gotta make them buy everything again $$$. Piracy is more permanent than this lol.

@@matthewbarabas3052 Some countries are actually moving to ban the possibility of revoking software after it was paid for unless it's a contract-based system aka pay for *blank* time. This has to happen to keep stuff in check. that's like if a car company put in their agreement they could take back your car at any time if you don't drive it every single day. You just cant take peoples stuff regardless of the legality of the choice.

If you didn’t delete any files you still have the worlds from before then in your saves folder the only thing lost is the username

They can only prevent you from playing the games you bought if the games have DRM or are made to require an account to play. Just say no to DRM.

your (singleplayer only, not sure about servers) world files will still work, only if you buy the game again though.

Very true, GhostedByMojang covers this exact problem, they don't care about our rights lol.

lets go and lawer them!

great then start a class action lawsuit

@@m6isme America doesn't have any consumer rights laws that apply to online products (YET), legislation will need to be passed for games to be treated as property but the populous is well and truly distracted as of late so I don't think any progress will be made to our laws. As it currently stands, this theft is completely legal in America, you can sell a online product and take it back as many times as you want with zero risk. Morally speaking this is evil and it SHOULD be illegal, but it currently isn't. That's a problem. But you don't want to hear this from me, you were defending Microsoft in another comment.

That ^

It's not just Microsoft that do this, other companies such as Sony have the same practice when it comes to having digital copies. When you own something digitally, you don't really own it, you own a licence to use it and that licence can be taken depending on the terms of use you agreed to. Physical copies, while slightly inconvenient and damageable, can't be taken away, Bill Gates would have to come pry it from your cold, dead hands.

@@badphysiotdx2395 Um... i havent seen ANYTHING sony does that is anywhere close to this. Microsoft literally took away your purchased product with a account transfer window, which under the original (CONTRACTUALLY BINDING) purchase agreements, gave no mention of said migration period or change to the EULA. Legally, this is beyond scummy.

Yeah I missed the time frame because I could no longer get into the migration due to them changing to Microsoft.

Happened to me.

@@badphysiotdx2395while you think that physical copies are better in that way, in reality its the exact same. your license to play the game is limiting your ability to join servers, which can be revoked all the same with physical copies. (they use the same license system)

Anti-consumer move like SalC said, and in my opinion Microsoft is basically saying buying isn't ownership with this move.

im so sorry

That’s horrible dude, I’m so sorry

I can send u a copy of Minecraft if you want ❤❤❤to

Bro just get better at living 😒 (I'm joking of course, I'm so sorry that happened to you 😔)

And Roku deactivating your TV until you agree to their no class action lawsuits EULA update, and Amazon disabling every device in your home because someone claimed you said a slur outside, and having your baby monitor which you paid $400 later being deactivated until you start paying a monthly subscription, and Ubisoft deactivating The Crew, a game that can be played offline, rendering every single sold disc as worthless plastic. This is the world we live in now. We need people to make noise about this.

"You wouldn't rent a printer" [in iconic anti-piracy font/theme]

HP ink subscription is the dumbest thing I have ever seen. It's so typical "hey consumer this subscription is sooooo convenient for you! (as long as you pay)". And apparently there are enough consumers that fall for it. Just get a laser printer that doesn't dry out and the toner is super cheap.

​ @user0000user I recently bought a printer from HP because I am very satified w/their laptops. I then read the reviews and the generalized hate against Instant Ink. I'm not sure I wanna follow the hate train on Instant Ink because I do think it is worth it for a category of people (generally the category of people who print enough to need ink but not enough to justify getting a color laser) but I do get how some of their business practices are shitty

Get an ink tank printer! It doesn't know or care what kind of ink you put in it, and refill bottles are much cheaper than any proprietary cartridge. Laser printers are great too, if you only need to print in black & white.

piracy is copyright infringement not theft

buying is owning not renting

@@Hidde_ not to corporations.

@@cherubin7th nuh uhh copyright infringment is stealing media and repurposing it in any comercial environment, so piracy is completely ethical 🤓🤓

@@cherubin7th Copyright infringement fall under the definition of theft, you are stealing an idea or property that belongs to someone else

keep up with news and you wouldnt have lost the account

I've also lost my account from 2011 man, got me real mad.

​@@nevan2201mojangs #1 meatrider hop off

i mean they sent over 50 emails reminding ppl soo

​@@Superby25Jup, never saw a single one of these lol. Btw don't know if you actually watched the video, but the example with Google and KZfaq Account Migration still working shows how shitty Microsoft is. Don't know why you need to be gaslighting people

Talking about usernames, you can register new account with your lost username, if it still not claimed. This should allow your new account to be logged in servers as your old account.

@@BestHakase servers do not register you under your username, rather, an account ID. Sniping back your username will not be sniping back your server progress.

​@@BestHakaseaccounts are registered by username in only cracked servers where ofc usernames mean nothing

Good news: Your progress on those servers was gone over 3 years ago, if not the full four. You lost the names and the money.

@@eludee119 you can always tell them to transfer your data over, they will usually do it (I"m talking about the servers)

That's how corporations work dummy

sad

I mean what do you want them to do tho? He sent them a letter literally saying "I purposefully ignored all your heads up and warnings and agreed to all terms and services, gimme game or money". Like it's kind of a no brainer situation and they dont owe him anything

@@nerd_world8919 it's not that simple, some people's emails they used to purchase the game are long gone, especially the older accounts, leaving such people with no option other than to buy the game again. or some people just haven't logged into their old old e-mail in ages and they were not aware of the migration but lets say decided to come back to the game after a decade or so only to get met with a screen telling them basically "sucks to suck buy a new copy"

@@nerd_world8919Microsoft doesnt know that he read and ignored all emails. He himself said that maybe he could have been interested in other stuff and wasnt interested in minecraft for a while. You can’t expect people to follow all news for something that you don’t even use. Imagine you didn’t play minecraft for a couple years and when you get the urge to play, you learn that your account that you bought with real money is unusable.

The pennies they would make from that means nothing to them, likely they don't want to support old and outdated systems and want to move everything over to 1 uniform system

There’s a lot of reasons accounts needed to be migrated. I have no clue what Mojangs infrastructure was at the time but I guarantee it wasn’t as secure or stable as Microsoft’s

@@ftgodlygoose4718 Secure? What's the point of security for a game account? It's not like you're storing your social security number in your account data. Now your Minecraft account is connected to your Microsoft account, which actually DOES have sensitive data attached to it, so security is more of a concern than before. Compartmentalization is the key to security, NOT connections. Microsoft is blatantly lying to you if they say they're connecting Minecraft to Microsoft for security. And "stability" isn't really quantifiable, I seriously doubt that Microsoft had reason to believe there were stability issues with Mojang accounts. If there were, they could have gone the infinitely more hassle-free route of just fixing the stability issues.

@@ftgodlygoose4718 Microsoft recently got 'hacked' when they left a testing admin account active. Is that what you meant when you said "secure"?

@@ftgodlygoose4718Doesnt matter, just keep the migration open indefinetely.

lets get this to the top boys!

Fascinating

a

Me too

Don’t check his community posts😭

Protip: reinstall windows and do not use a microsoft account to use windows, just take the "local account" option. You don't need onedrive or any of the other crap they try to sell you on, there are better methods. I mean, the real protip is to rid your hardware of windows permanently; but you know, baby steps.

I signed into xbox and it turned my local account into a Microsoft acc for my pc

​@@WeatherMan2005Yikes

@@NormalPersonCommenting You need a microsoft account for windows 11. Windows 10 is losing support in 2025 for security updates... gotta love microsoft!!!

"Reinstall Windows" being a "solution" to not being able to change an email on an account is absolutely wild.@@NormalPersonCommenting

How do you escalate it further?

We’re all together in this shit😔 Let us know if you manage to get the account or money back, please. And if so, tell us how😭

eeeeeeeeeehhhhhhhhh

@@arvalb0 Sue them. I bet notch would be happy to fund it...

@@rosee8140I guarentee he wouldn't. Notch does not care about what microsoft is doing with minecraft, and has has expressed no signficant negative feelings towards microsoft. he's also not the type of billionaire to go around giving people money on a whim.

they probably got ignored when they migrated

I have a bugged account too. It split up into two accounts. Every time i log in i have to choose a username. Then that becomes a new account. If i skip choosing username, i have my old account. But the account that changes name keeps the uuid somehow

@@NubeBuster IVE HAD THE SAME THING!!! on many accounts ive tried buying like 4 different accounts but all of them have been deleting or split between "xbox" and "microsoft" logins are setting usernames and such absolutely evil. but what the megacorp wants the megacorp gets

It never is, its copyright infringement

Buying isn’t owning it. Nope. You don’t own the game to the point you can decide whatever, you are only given permission to play it.

you SHOULD own a copy of the game. and be able to do whatever you want with that copy.@@beedslolkuntus2070

​@@beedslolkuntus2070 exactly, piracy isnt stealing either

You gonna pirate the login servers? Good luck playing online!

@@DecidiousGreens "I send over as much information that I could" sounds like he didnt have acces to it

@@rogoznicafc9672 thanks I guess

@@rogoznicafc9672 I had the login and pass to the mc account, but I did not remember the password of the yahoo email (bare in mind I made this back in 2011 when I was a kid). I did have the transaction id, and I even made youtube videos with that old account (I was one of those kids LOL). I sent all that info over and still no response until after the migration period ended. Before anyone asks, yes I tried retrieving the yahoo email back. The support for Yahoo said they can't help me with old inactive accounts anymore.

Mate I had the same problem lmao, I gave them everything they asked for and we were going back and forth for over 6 months

@@rogoznicafc9672 to be fair, you need the id of purchase, if you don't have that ur cooked.

Yeah its not a situation of "this is impossible for us to do" its a situation of "we do not care enough about our customers to support this"

although is there any need to migrate it? I migrated because I wanted to get new handle/nickname but honestly up until recently I was using my old youtube legacy account and never had any problems related with it.

@@TheRealTonie it’s less about the need to do so and more about the respect of the customer. If one person wants their account migrated they can still do that, because that is good for the consumer, and KZfaq values that. Something Microsoft dosent do.

@@moustashguy5315 except, youtube never put -much- any effort into advertising that there's any migration and what for. I actually was baffled why I can't change the nickname or the handles and it was weird to me. I didn't know what it meant "legacy youtube account" I just thought they already did that ages ago since it was under my email anyway. Turns out, they didn't. Meanwhile about the migration with the minecraft, I even saw some news articles warning about it before it happened and true I wanted to migrate immediately since I was a bit anxious about missing it. There were emails coming too and when it did I migrated. Now tell me, how microsoft can figure out which old email adress can be paired to which microsoft email adress? Should they let people migrate endlessly? When old email accounts are being hacked daily, it's a matter of time before somebody digs through some old email accounts whose owners didn't bother to put on double authentication nor any decent password and migrate his account away from him. Or just a mojang account that only had a weak password for it. I know that it is about "ownership rights" but hypothetically let's say minecraft didn't sell and it bankrupted. Would you still be the owner of your game copy, if its confirmation is stored online on some server that has its costs? For how long exactly? You weren't given a serial number unique to your game copy so you can retrieve it later. The only thing is your old adress email and who knows if it's active since you ignored that email. Minecraft began to be a big game which people want to buy, stealing an account especially if it holds unique capes or even the new capes like all old accounts now do will be even more valuable. It'd be nice of microsoft if they finally collected enough of people waking up now and finally said _"ok that's enough of late sleepers waking up, let's refund them"_ but dunno if that will ever happen since it's bad bussiness for big corporation. I don't want to defend them, but I can't help but understand them a little.

Google can theoretically keep making money by keeping legacy YT accounts active, since they still earn the ad revenue for any views of existing videos. The impact to their reputation for removing that much history from a public-facing forum would be significant too (not that that’s stopped companies in the past lol). Unfortunately, Microsoft refusing to give back old Minecraft accounts is just not as risky a move for them.

? Mojang gave people months to migrate did they not? Watched the ending and read a few comments. Yeah, this was scummy on MS'd end

@@flamedramon68three years or something?

He had 3-4 years to do it, he didn't to make content

you had over 3 years of constant reminders, how is that a "relatively small period", it's your fault and only your fault if you didn't migrate

@@flamedramon68 i couldn't migrate because i had lost access to the email but could still login. but after the migration i got fucked

amen

same situation, lil bit different about the ownership but same

I had a legacy account (2012) and couldn't migrate due to email address being deleted and no transaction id, so sad that they wont allow any other proof of ownership, it was better back in the day when we could get it back with verifying email pass (if u had t-id) and some pics of the account.

same man. Dad's old email is inactive, and took the transaction ID with it. RIP _lord_hades

Same for me, they just robbed us and didn't provide any help in my case

HOLY SHIT. That's CSI shit to keep hold of your minecraft account. Good job.

well look at the bright side, you got a slightly cool and very niche story out of it

@@grqfesI work in IT. The sad part is that is not even in the top 10 for annoying account recoveries. As far as stupid personal ones though: proving I bought some virtual temporary slickers over 10 years prior, then doing that for 3 more accounts, is gonna be up there.

They ruin things on purpose, too.

@@grqfes "One of the largest corporations in the world tries to cheat him out of his Minecraft account" is neither cool, nor niche; it's just like all the billions of other "large corporation tries to fuck over its users" stories.

I am sorry for the friends that you have lost

what happened to personal responsibility?

@@ericsombody8912 If the account was 9 years old they were likely still a kid when they made the old email. They probably couldn't remember the password that they made because they didn't fully understand it at the time. I had a few emails just like that.

>ranks punishment from God.

​@@apunishedmannamed2473There are servers that let you rank up free you know?

They are not allowed to force migration on early adopter customers. The rest of the customers are still entitled to an opportunity to read and respond if this is an EULA policy change. As far as we can tell, Mojang did not establish a contractual obligation to "migrate OR ELSE" prior to initiating this plan, but if you have evidence to the contrary please provide it. Customers are entitled to what they paid for and if Mojang wants to push changes the legal standard is legal notice. You can't usurp a contract by proposing changes and not having the other party informed. Sending an email does not meet the burden of proof. Further, you also had customers who were not even sent emails. Mojang never gave itself authority to impose time sensitive consequences from EULA.

thats the thing they should be sued for, the time limit

I got very lucky that I decided to play minecraft after years of not playing within the migration period. My account was tied to an email I also have not checked for years so I had no idea the migration was happening.

​@@peppermintpig974 What exactly are you hoping for? "Doesn't mean the burden of proof", pfft. Sure, one email might not justify it. But multiple emails, and public disclosure - repeatedly - for years leading up to it... what more are you expecting from them? Don't quote me on these figures, but apparently Java has sold ~30 million times whilst a total of ~300 million Minecraft copies have been sold... Even just using the smaller figure of 30 million, what is a reasonable effort on their part? Letters in the real world? In-person communication? A lawyer showing up at 30 million doors? (Admittedly there'd be some people with multiple accounts, so less than that) "Oh but I haven't played in years." Well, then, shell out another $40 for what is effectively endless entertainment, limited only by your imagination and ability to mod. If you spend 2 hours, that's $20 an hour for entertainment, and probably ends up cheaper than the cinema. But, of course, you could end up spending 2000 hours which brings that down considerably... to 2 cents per "hour of entertainment". Or, maybe, it's just not a game you enjoyed and you had little to no intention of returning. Maybe it's the old builds and worlds you've lost. I feel for you, I do. It's tragic... but time passes, the present is already over, and memories fade. Rebuild, or don't. Doesn't matter either way.

Unintentionally did this using a modified version of 1.19 Java designed for mod development

Can't own a game, just the license. Can't pirate something reproducible, so pirate away.

@@hobogrifter I mean the fact it's reproducible is why it's piracy. The problem *is* the reproducibility.

Piracy was never stealing, it's always been copyright infringement when talking about digital assets

steam also has the right to revoke your licence to play a game unfortunately

If you bought in beta technically it is illegal, because the original purchase page said the account would last forever, for free.

It's all about exploitation of legal loopholes and bribing. That's the only way Microsoft is able to do this. Take up piracy at this point. If they want to rob us, then we have full clearance to take what we want from them.

This is because under any company, when you buy a game, you are never buying a game. You are "renting it". If you break their rules (or not) they have the right to stop their service. That is just how all digital services worked.

@@hyui5096 Well I haven't seen a digital service this ignorant lol

@@hyui5096 if buying isnt owning then piracy isnt theft. fuck that.

@@SkyFWWO ,,, What the fuck, this is why everyone hates furries.

Well that’s a bit dramatic

​@@SkyFWWOfucked up but effective bait comment

@@SkyFWWOnumber 20 frog in a frozen vegetable bag

@@SkyFWWOyeah you just shouldn’t joke about that topic. Especially if the "joke" isn’t even funny

I haven’t kept up with minecraft at all in the past few years coincidentally, and just checked through my email and have not received a single notice about this migration. Thank you for making this experiment. Don’t think I’m gonna be "buying" this game again

This is exactly what happened to me and my siblings with my Grandma, we lost 3 accounts to the migration all bought by her when we were kids.. I feel your pain man

According to another comment MS accounts are automatically deleted after 2 years of inactivity, which is incredibly stupid

30€ is an insanely stupid price for a videogame here too! And it's made even worse by tax

i love piracy

most post-eastern bloc countries tbh

something similiar happened to my account back around 2021 - 2022 and it was so frustrating because i always thought it was an error with migration even though i was never notified that i was able to migrate my account, no emails or notifications on the launcher, but since this happened at the latest march of 2022 and i realized that the email i used said that there was no account attached to it that my account was actually just completely deleted and at that point i just decided to re buy minecraft

Literally the same thing here bro, that email is long gone along with my original acct

Even worse, if you still have your email, but don't know it they won't give you any hint of what it is, not even a letter. They'd let me change my email if I had a transaction id. For a game I bought in 2012. PayPal doesn't keep transaction ids for longer then 10 years for security. Naturally

Same exact thing happened to me. I went through all of their recovery methods and tips, but all I was doing was just delaying the inevitability of repaying for the game I already bought years ago. It felt like such a betrayal.

Uhh i was able to migrate with a dead email, tho i think it was more of a “hey this is my acc, i no longer have access to it nor the receipt but i have proof the email was mine”

Okay but you had literal years worth of gameplay and got your like 30 bucks worth...just buy it again. You'd have similar issues in any other game where you tried to login but failed because you legit dont have access to the email.

Oh that sucks...that's really a dark practice

Oh i didnt know that about dcma

@@andrewanderson8803 Yeah, it's a real POS legislation. I didn't realize how terrible until I asked my dad about it about a year ago.

I don't know about the legal options in the US, but here in Germany we have something called a ,,konkrete Normenkontrolle". Here one side of a court trial can ask the judge to pause the trial and refer the trial-deciding-law (any law that might decide the outcome of a trial) to the constitutional court, which then decides if said law is legal. For this, the judge must be convinced that this is necessary (otherwise this feature might get abused). Something like this could be useful in a trial involving the DMCA. I wonder if something similar exists in the US 🤔

DMCA is pure evil

this just isn't how the DMCA works, the DMCA is consumer protections, shitty ones sure, but it exists to protect you the DMCA makes just outright removal or ownership illegal, Microsoft can't just decide to remove your ownership, to do so you either have to breach the EULA you agreed to or if MS is to do something like removing Mojang accounts they have to give you ample time to react to that (which they did to make sure they didn't breach the DMCA) what your describing is a world where the DMCA doesn't exist at all, were you have ZERO protections instead of the again PRETTY BAD existing protections, Im not saying the DMCA is perfect, it is FARRRR from it, it needs to be updated like yesterday, but it is a good thing, a very small good thing, but a good thing

I can still pop in my unupdated copy of xbox 360 edition and play it like it all never happened

No, that's where laws regulating ownership of digital goods come in. Oh boy howdy am I glad physical copies of The Crew exist, that'll definitely mean you can still play the game after they kill it.

or piracy

No, that’s when piracy comes in.

​@@Over_Surgeempress moment