I Drive The Nissan Ariya For The First Time! This Is Where It Shines

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Жыл бұрын

Kyle, Coleton, and Alyssa head out for a cruise in the Nissan Ariya AWD with the large battery pack (87kWh usable)
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@KyleConner
@KyleConner Жыл бұрын
The driving is where this car truly shines! The rest of the reviews, may not be so positive, but time will tell. Also, please keep in mind this is my very first experience in the car - I shoot these videos to bring you along for my initial impressions - more detailed videos to come with all of the nerdy info you’re looking for soon. ⚡️
@paulmusat9711
@paulmusat9711 Жыл бұрын
Kyle, keep in mind that in the Europe we have 22 kw AC charging 😁
@justinbyers7472
@justinbyers7472 Жыл бұрын
Just for a quick heads up. The lane change system only works on Pro-pilot 2.0 mapped roads, so while the car is in "Blue" mode which is hands on it will execute auto lane changes with the lane button, or you use the turn signal to do a lane change. The 19 inch wheels ride a lot quieter than the 20s. The charge curve is super flat and will out charge an ID4 on Bjorn Nylands charging tests. Also the motor Torque Vectors along with the brakes The E-Step system is definitely a small annoyance due to no true 1 pedal driving but the vehicle does have OTA firmware updates available so maybe they will update it in as a selectable setting.
@doberbert
@doberbert Жыл бұрын
If it is the first experience and not knowing the features and 10-80% charge speed, then why so negative ?
@sajiantony7473
@sajiantony7473 Жыл бұрын
Finally I received my e-4orce platinum 2 weeks ago. I don't drive faster than 65mph. I am getting 320 miles on full charge. Extremely happy. Wonderful job Nissan.
@kqschwarz
@kqschwarz Жыл бұрын
GREAT to see Alyssa again. We have all missed her and hope to see more of her in the future.
@geft
@geft 10 ай бұрын
I ended up buying an Ariya to replace my 2019 Model 3 and I really like it a lot. I don't disagree with your criticisms of where the Ariya falls short at least from a specs perspective. However, since I exclusively commute in my car and we drive my wife's 3-row SUV on trips, these down sides don't really figure in for me. The Ariya makes for a much more relaxing commute than my old Model 3, which accounts for most of my drive time. Plus, I got a $3750 rebate for financing through Nissan with a 2.99% APR for 36 months which is quite good these days. So that helped negate some of the cost concerns. For me it gives me 90% of the luxury experience with none of the excess baggage that a luxury marque brings with it.
@bigd7386
@bigd7386 Жыл бұрын
I’m a bit shocked on how harsh you all were on the interior and seems to be an overall lack of objectivity... because Nissan. All major touch points are soft touch materials, and in the top trim you get nappa leather and suede matrials, even suede on the pillars between the doors. I watched the review on the detail channel and was confused at the things that were called cheap. All the other reviews I've watched mention that the cabin is actually a highlight of Ariya and reads more premium than the competition. Overall the Ariya in a solid effort that has been marred by a botched launch that for the most part Nissan didn't have control over. I'm sure there were a few "damn can we catch a break" moments between the pandemic and shutdowns to the semiconductor shortage... THEN the tax credit getting pulled when they were finally able to get it to market. Everyone is complianing about the charge numbers when 85% of the time people are driving around town and in most cases you'll have a charger at home and charge over night. I also thought the numbers sucked, but recently saw a video of someone with a plug-in hybrid that had ~40 miles of range and the gas engine hadn't come on for an entire week with simply pluging it in at night. Even if you have a daily commute of 50-60 miles, with a big battery pack EV you wouldn't even need to plug in every night. Charge speeds are kinda like the new 0-60... its important but not as many make it out to be. It only becomes a problem when doing long roadtrips and thats a low point for EVs in general. 350W charging speed means nothing if you never see it and with such a crappy charging infrastructure overall. I'd take a solid charging curve that prioritizes battery longevity than outright speed.
@pzokz
@pzokz 8 ай бұрын
I agree. I have an Ariya Evolve+ (a middle-range trim) and I love the interior. It seemed to us at least as nice as the ID.4's, much roomier, and much nicer than Kia, Hyundai, Toyota, and Tesla.
@pzokz
@pzokz 8 ай бұрын
They spoke too soon. In fact . . . they should really post a comment or revision, as their own test of the charging vindicated Ariya for its charge time because of its flat charging curve! See kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p59xddpjp8rHkYk.html
@blackwhirlwind1245
@blackwhirlwind1245 2 ай бұрын
I agree, fast charging is rarely a consideration for me to get an EV, like you said, most people just charge at home at night, and so am I if I do get one, if you doing long road trips very often, then this is simply not for you, but for those who just driving around town and city, the range is well enough, also, if you have a wife/husband, you can have an EV plus a ga car/hybrid for road trips, so you can see the fast charging really doesn’t matter at all. As for the materials, this is far better than Tesla Mode Y, it has all the soft touch materials and interior feels more premium than minimalist model Y. The only downside is that it’s kinda expensive, if Nissan can do few thousand dollars off,(for example $7500 because it’s the tax credit amount), then it’s pretty good buy.
@bigd7386
@bigd7386 2 ай бұрын
@@blackwhirlwind1245 Well the price has dropped considerably since this was posted. But yes I agree with your sentiments.
@blackwhirlwind1245
@blackwhirlwind1245 2 ай бұрын
@@bigd7386 yeah, I heard that it gets up to $6000 price reduction for 2024 model year, Platinum + e4ORCE is the one that gets $6000 off. I believe other trim levels also get few thousands dollars off.
@sr-gi3cr
@sr-gi3cr Жыл бұрын
Hi Alyssa!
@directorjustin
@directorjustin Жыл бұрын
I thought this was going to be an April fool's joke with Kyle taking the Ariya off road. 🤣
@user-yi4vz4du9l
@user-yi4vz4du9l 3 ай бұрын
If you look into the accessories, you can put 39" tires on the Ariya, and it has a $400.00 tent that attaches to the back.
@aubutt81
@aubutt81 Жыл бұрын
you bashed and claimed Ariya as pathetic charging vs Tesla charging speed. I tested it and found out Ariya with most smooth and consistent charging curve (around 115 - 120kwh ) which no other EV matched including Tesla 3, ID5, Volvo, BMW, Tesla start very high in charge rate like 150+ but drastically fall down (except Audi Eton which is more fast). in the end the total charging curve I found Ariya charging more fast than Model 3 (10-90%).
@Emily09876g
@Emily09876g Жыл бұрын
I'm going to miss Alissa most of all. Considering the way Kyle spoke to her (and spoke down to her) at times, I think she'll be okay.
@justinstewart3248
@justinstewart3248 Жыл бұрын
Loo
@joshmatlock1020
@joshmatlock1020 Жыл бұрын
they must be more mature than I am because there's no way I'd still be able to peacefully co-exist with someone I broke up with...I've been happily married for 15 years so I'll never have to worry about it but I know how i'd be.
@TeddyBearGaming999
@TeddyBearGaming999 Жыл бұрын
The top spec at $60k+ definitely is a hard sell for this car, but the mid tier ones around $45-55K compete quite well with ID4, Q4, and the Hyundai/Kia stuff
@Pampalak
@Pampalak Жыл бұрын
Nice to see Alyssa again!
@jaxkarson
@jaxkarson 7 ай бұрын
I just test drove this car some days ago on the interstate out in San Bernadino, California and it was by far the best experience I've head against the EV6 and the Model Y. The heads-up display showing things like the speed on the windsheld during nights makes for a very futuristic sense of vision!
@thedatroxde
@thedatroxde 3 ай бұрын
Interesting, do you know what the efficiency was?
@TalismanPHX
@TalismanPHX Жыл бұрын
For $63k, I'd buy a Lyriq or a Model Y
@Josh-179
@Josh-179 Жыл бұрын
What's crazy is that you can get a Y Performance for $4K less! Nevermind if you get the tax credit too. Technologically, the Tesla is a whole generation ahead of this even though it's years older.
@akshunz1567
@akshunz1567 Жыл бұрын
@@Josh-179 I’m curious where you think Tesla is an entire generation ahead. Examples please.
@davidmenasco5743
@davidmenasco5743 Жыл бұрын
​@@akshunz1567Hmmm, a few easy ones: Efficiency, acceleration, charging speed, range, route planning, one pedal driving and storage space. I think the list goes on. Oh, and price. And superchargers.
@Josh-179
@Josh-179 Жыл бұрын
@@akshunz1567 , just as David said. Automakers are still coming out with EVs with half the charging speed they should in 2023. But that's just one important metric (one that makes or breaks the idea of road tripping). Tesla's competition has had years to look at Tesla's holistic approach to building an EV and have failed to get it right. I'm not a Tesla only fanboy but c'mon, you have to do what Tesla is doing to make a great EV experience.
@kajko6868
@kajko6868 Жыл бұрын
@@davidmenasco5743 Nothing on your list matters if the ride comfort sucks 😂
@randynorris9467
@randynorris9467 Жыл бұрын
Everyone must consider that this particular review is for the top tier Platinum + AWD trim. The Platinum + Ariya feature for feature considerably overmatches the Tesla M Y long range or VW ID.4 Pro trims. A better example of an Ariya AWD trim is to compare an Evolve + AWD trim to the MY long range and I’d.4 Pro S plus. (The driving dynamics less pro pilot 2.0 would be identical). Last I checked the current price of a well equipped MY long range that wasn’t white is in the $55K range and VW ID.4 Pro plus with the large battery is priced around $55K as well. That said you can currently buy an Ariya AWD Evolve + for $56K and it offers a sunroof that actually opens, HUD, a surround view positioning camera, 4 wheel disk brakes, and a Heat Pump that the ID.4 AWD doesn’t offer. The only real disadvantage the Ariya has in the US right now when comparing price in this segment is that it no longer qualifies for a federal tax credit due to recent legislation. But as stated in this video a lease option may possibly be a way to address that issue.
@momodesignn
@momodesignn 10 ай бұрын
USB A is a great option and is still very commonly used. In fact, I don't understand why other car manufacturers think everyone has trashed their USB-A to USB-C cables and think of putting in USB-C plugs only.
@ervin9805
@ervin9805 5 ай бұрын
its called future proofing
@chicomtl
@chicomtl Жыл бұрын
Just wow. Great review guys. This helps me a lot to inform people around me that are less at ease with electrification. Continue the incredible work.
@carsonassociates3263
@carsonassociates3263 Жыл бұрын
Max charging rate of 130kW is only part of the story: Bjorn found that the 87kWh Ariya was still pulling 81kW at 80% SOC! Ariya’s flat charging curve (like E-tron’s) makes it a potentially better road-tripper than the modest max charge rate would suggest.
@febrianadji5758
@febrianadji5758 Жыл бұрын
I believe it's at 85% SoC But still tho Model Y for similar price giving faster charging speed even without using supercharger site
@Tinrs80
@Tinrs80 Жыл бұрын
i saw that review on that channel and agree
@marketbuy
@marketbuy Жыл бұрын
The ride quality is far superior than the MY. It’s very quiet and plush. I don’t care too much about charging speed. I own an Evolve + trim. I had given friends who own Model Y Performance a chance to test drive my Evolve+, and they all said the Ariya drives nicer (Lexus quality).
@scottmanthey3549
@scottmanthey3549 11 ай бұрын
@@marketbuy I would agree.
@benyo4652
@benyo4652 Жыл бұрын
I sometimes don't understand the "nerdy" tech of the reviews but after awhile I appreciate the info that you guys put out. THANKS and keep up the good work!
@dylanwhite6539
@dylanwhite6539 Жыл бұрын
I disagree on the charge speeds. If it saved money and put this closer to 35k, they could’ve used a 24a charger since you’re pretty unlikely to find or want to install a 40a home circuit for ev charging. So size it for a 30a circuit or go higher to 40a for 50a circuit. However, 60 and 80a are beyond overkill and borderline useless. 80a is the full breaker panel for some people. Sure, for suppling power there may be an argument but 80a/19.2kWh ac is pretty silly. Even a 16a 240v charger can deliver about 100 miles of range over 8 hours.
@user-yi4vz4du9l
@user-yi4vz4du9l 3 ай бұрын
Okay, the Ariya is a different beast. I have the Engage, and it's really quirky with e-step. The faster you remove your foot, the faster it gives you more regens. It clearly is not a Lucid Air or Tesla Plaid. It is just not built for that. It is designed for staying in a large city. It is designed to get you from point A to point B in a fun, sporty way. In the Eco mode, it can extend range by 100 miles. I can charge mine from 10% to 100% in 35 minutes. You can go ahead and charge it at home in about 5 hrs to prepare it for the morning. My car was 44k, and the Tesla Y, which had similar options, was 65K. Also, it will auto-change lanes in certain trims. Now with 10 trims, lol! Now, imagine what that beast will do when Nissan comes out with the performance model with a projected 200kWh battery and a 350kWh charging system. Nissan is smart. They have had the Leaf for years. Nissan moves slowly and methodically. Nissan has basically given up on super-fast hot rods. If you go 0-60 in 2 seconds, you can get a ticket for laying drag in my town. If you want more backseat room and headspace, get the Enguage, not the platinum, because of the roof, it takes up 3 inches. Also, the front-wheel drive has a bigger truck space.
@Nic9963
@Nic9963 Жыл бұрын
Super review, love the detail and explanations.
@bartwaggoner2000
@bartwaggoner2000 Жыл бұрын
Tesla’s price cuts have really kicked this car in the testicles
@0-Will-0
@0-Will-0 Жыл бұрын
The Teslicles!
@bartwaggoner2000
@bartwaggoner2000 Жыл бұрын
@@0-Will-0 LOL!
@stevornrichards1380
@stevornrichards1380 4 ай бұрын
And Tesla owners in the pockets with the steep depreciation and devaluation. For every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction.
@djstraylight
@djstraylight Жыл бұрын
A hard pass on the Ariya. The Ionic 5/EV6 all wheel drive has it beat in all metrics. Loved my Leaf back in 2012-2015 but not looking to drive an dated Nissan.
@NunchucksHabit
@NunchucksHabit Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Had a Nissan 240sx back in 1989. Love it. Nissan went into the reliability toilet after that & just kind of stayed there. Nissan appealed to me because they always seemed to have more power, more of 'something' than the competition. Was on my way to buying a Sentra in 2002, then I drove one & that ended that. Then I wanted a Versa. Asked the dealership to call me when an automatic one came in. They never did. Haven't looked at Nissan since. Judging by this sad effort, I needn't check in on them anytime soon. It's such a waste - it didn't have to be this way for Nissan.
@henrymatthews9365
@henrymatthews9365 Жыл бұрын
Yeah nah no need to buy anything from them till they put a proper transmission back in the maxima ,Altima , Sentra line. I worked for Nissan as a tech when they first released the Murano with the cvt transmission. I was one of the first tech to pull a new cvt under warranty at that point I knew the company was in trouble. Now that dealership started a program that if you bought a Nissan from them with a cvt transmissions and got all your services done by them the transmission will be covered under warranty for life. Lol . They went the whole Chrysler move . Unfortunately I love the look of the maxima but I will not buy any vehicle with a cvt transmission from Nissan .
@zoner__
@zoner__ Жыл бұрын
@@henrymatthews9365 hard sell to buy any cvt
@anydaynow01
@anydaynow01 Жыл бұрын
@@NunchucksHabit Yep outside of their sports car offerings Nissan has been hurting for a while now. Can't wait to get the new Z though, saving up for base model now and then give it the full SPL treatment with a Wavetrac LSD, hopefully Öhlins can modify a set of their 350Z coilovers to fit since those are amazing for the price on my G35.
@NunchucksHabit
@NunchucksHabit Жыл бұрын
@@henrymatthews9365 I'm in total agreement re: the Maxima. It was out of my budget range at the time, but I really wanted one around 2008. To this day, I think it's the best looking sedan on the market. Fast too. I had a 2002 Civic with a CVT and I was onboard with the concept. For a 118hp car, it made sense & was really smooth. Know how stupid I was in 2016? I bought a Subaru WRX Sport-Tech with CVT. It was meant to be a Toronto car so I needed an auto transmission. Shockingly, it's been reliable. The harness had to be replaced, but it's got a 10yr, 160k km warranty on the transmission so for that I respect Subaru. The paddle shifting is really good. I test drove a Golf R & its DST was even worse - so much lag! I'm a big reliability buff, Consumer Reports was my bible for years. So I knew what I was getting into with the Subaru. It's engine probs I have now (only 90k kms) & I've had it with ICE cars. I'm Canadian, but unlike many Canadians, I love the US & would be proud to live there. That said, I have too much experience, too much data to ever buy an American ICE car. I'm saving for an EV & I'm so happy that the complexities of ICE engines/drivetrains are gone, I'm hoping US car makers can bring their reliability up. If not reliability, at the very least they can do is stand by their products after the insultingly low warranty protections consumers get now. Mostly, I'm looking forward to the 500hp & instant AWD torque!
@StubbyStan28
@StubbyStan28 Жыл бұрын
I own the FWD Premiere edition & am waiting to take delivery on the Platinum+ spec. I completely disagree with Kyle's assessment of the AC charging. I've owned mine for 6 weeks and I've never had to wait for the AC charge to be completed. It was always exactly what I needed when I needed it. Personally, I think that Nissan has been ULTRA conservative with their battery management of the Ariya due to everything they've learned from the Leaf. I wouldn't be surprised if after a year Nissan ups the charging limits to 150 kW DCFC with basically the same charging curve once they're able to test how well the battery operates under load for long periods of time. I'll be very interested to see what Kyle's thoughts are on the charging after a few tests & living with it for a week.
@DavidWilson-sm2ym
@DavidWilson-sm2ym Жыл бұрын
Cancelling the blinker in the opposite direction is more intuitive. People who are transitioning to EVs will be far more likely to be familiar with this mode, which I’d imagine is what Nissan is going for.
@nfc153
@nfc153 Жыл бұрын
I really don't like the "return to center" stalks. They save the manufacturer the cost of a couple of spring detents but they introduce another problem to be solved - how to cancel. Manually returning to center to cancel is by far the most intuitive.
@nevea2be
@nevea2be Жыл бұрын
Great to see Alyssa back in the videos and that she is still apart of the Out of Spec team. Relationships are hard enough and everything is enhanced when it’s in public under a spot light. ❤
@andrewoneil8535
@andrewoneil8535 Жыл бұрын
I think it's because this was done prior to the breakup
@jasonfournier
@jasonfournier Жыл бұрын
She still works for them. He said in the video that he explained the new relationship.
@nevea2be
@nevea2be Жыл бұрын
@@jasonfournier thanks. I didn’t catch that only about his new girl.
@JeremyAkersInAustin
@JeremyAkersInAustin Жыл бұрын
@@jasonfournier What video was this?
@andyhung424able
@andyhung424able Жыл бұрын
I'm an owner of an Ariya FWD Premier since December 2022. I love the car, but I am not going defend it from what Kyle said about it. It is a good car, a competitive one, but nothing about it really stands out. The range is good, the efficiency is average, the charging capability is average, tech and safety features are on par with competitors, and it is in the same price range among the Mach E, Ioniq 5, EV6, ID.4 and Model Y. IMO, it is a good car and totally should be on anyone's shopping list for a cross-over EV. But I think the knock on the Ariya is that Nissan took 10 years to come up with a follow-on to the Leaf and they didn't come up with something that beats all competitors out of the water. I guess we wanted/expected Extraordinary, but we got a Good.
@wetzel82
@wetzel82 Жыл бұрын
I was just watching Alyssa’s facial expression the whole time 😭
@yhfsywfit
@yhfsywfit Жыл бұрын
So was this filmed before or after she found out about Anna?
@wetzel82
@wetzel82 Жыл бұрын
@@yhfsywfit I honestly didn’t know about the situation until you said this and i watched the porsche taycan delivery video. Not my buisness I like all of them. Just here for the cars.
@yhfsywfit
@yhfsywfit Жыл бұрын
@@wetzel82 you’re a better person than I am 😂
@justinstewart3248
@justinstewart3248 Жыл бұрын
@@yhfsywfit can you spill the tea? Who is Anna? Was he cheating on her with another girl?
@581rma
@581rma Жыл бұрын
Excellent review thanks for taking me back to 2019.
@JohnSmith-rt5yq
@JohnSmith-rt5yq Жыл бұрын
Not canceling the turn signal in the same direction you turned it on is exactly like a tesla... its a negative here, but never heard kyle mention or care about that in a tesla, just saying. Just went outside to check my model 3.... up is to turn right, it cancels by pushing down. and down is to turn left, you cancel by pushing up. Exactly like this Ariya.
@phillyphil1513
@phillyphil1513 Жыл бұрын
oh I forgot to mention for those perhaps put off by the wheel covers Nissan DOES offer a lightweight dedicated 5 spoke wheel option. I believe you have to order them through Nissan Parts because I don't think you can spec them on a vehicle (or maybe you can...?) if you remove the covers "hoping to strike gold", the alloy wheels underneath have unsightly mounting holes so are NOT necessarily an improvement, unless of course you're into "unsightly".
@bwarren228
@bwarren228 Жыл бұрын
Nissan has a history of putting a WOT restriction until 40mph on their ICE vehicles. Removing that with tuning really wakes them up. Interesting they did it on this as well.
@HiiipowerdanniRuns
@HiiipowerdanniRuns Жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to this video
@McMooo587
@McMooo587 Жыл бұрын
I had my grandparents Cadillac Deville Concours for some time in high school. Had the front bench and of course my friends who sat in the front thought it was hilariously to slam the gas pedal since it was easily reachable
@hereigoagain5050
@hereigoagain5050 Жыл бұрын
What a hoot to bomb around in a Deville! Must have been great HS years. These days, families live out of Devilles.
@mikeo7250
@mikeo7250 Жыл бұрын
I test drove one, and out of all the ones I have driven before I place my order, this one has changed my mind and what I really think I’m placing the order on. I was blown away
@johnpoldo8817
@johnpoldo8817 Жыл бұрын
“Blown away”? With what, I see nothing positive about this EV. What are its strengths over Kia, Hyundai, and Tesla?
@kajko6868
@kajko6868 Жыл бұрын
@@johnpoldo8817 It always works and the ride comfort is great.
@CharlieMallow
@CharlieMallow Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t trade my Ariya for any of the new wave of cars, these other car makers rushed to market. Nissan has been making EVs that sold well for over a decade, I loved my Leaf. It was always rock solid. I’ve driven all the rest, hard pass.
@cjonesplay1
@cjonesplay1 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Kyle
@CarsandTechInfo
@CarsandTechInfo 12 күн бұрын
The second roof mounted fin is for the camera since this trim has the digital rearview mirror
@theaaronv9288
@theaaronv9288 Жыл бұрын
Thought it was pretty funny that the entire time the team was talking about the soundproofing of the car, and it’s impressiveness, I was distracted by all the street noise of the passing traffic lol
@johnpoldo8817
@johnpoldo8817 Жыл бұрын
Kyle says, “how do I cancel voice recognition?” Duh? How about talking to car & saying, “cancel voice recognition.”
@kajko6868
@kajko6868 Жыл бұрын
Or press the ”Back” button. RTFM!
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections Жыл бұрын
My $0.02 on AC charging: I only have a 7.2 kW charger. I regularly travel over 100 mi in a day in my Ioniq 5 and have never once thought I could use more power than that. Hell, if I didn't care about leveraging time-of-use rates, a 3.6 kW charger wouldn't really get in my way. It may be weird in the state of the market for Nissan to only put a 7.2 kilowatt charger onboard the car, but I really think people put way too much emphasis on charging speeds at home. You're going to sleep for 8 hours anyway, and we all know L2 charging on the road just won't cut it for anybody.
@KyleConner
@KyleConner Жыл бұрын
Agreed. For many people even a 24A OBC would be fine. However this car is competing in a market where good enough just doesn’t cut it. 48A is the new standard for large battery EVs, and for many people who have long commutes, who go to dinners out, and have an early morning to leave, still sometimes doesn’t charge the car fully quick enough. To me, it’s not so much about what suits the daily driving, but for this price it needs to suit all driving. Hotel Level 2 road trip stop is a common occurrence for me, but rare for many. A 30A charger at business 208V would only be ~6.3kW - not nearly enough to charge the car during a sleep. I believe throughout the lifetime ownership of an EV, this will become a limitation at certain times and it’s unacceptable for $63k as tested.
@TechnologyConnections
@TechnologyConnections Жыл бұрын
​@@KyleConner I agree that it's weird in the state of the market, but I also think that having higher than 30 amp AC charging only solves a few rare edge cases. Even the hotel example; you're unlikely to be there for less than 10 hours, and if you're truly in a pinch, you need to go to a DC fast charger anyway. On a road trip, hotel charging is really just a convenience to skip or shorten one stop. And if it's your destination, you're probably gonna be there for more than one night. The main reason I care about this is because I've been trying to get people to assess their actual needs before they commit to installing a 60 amp run to their garage or wherever. There's a lot of people doing needlessly heavy electrical work and service upgrades because they think they need the fastest possible charging their car can support, and as much as I understand that we want to view everything in the light of progress and "the best you can get," it is very possible to go overboard - and the way I see it, almost no one truly needs more than 30 amps at home unless we're talking about trucks.
@milohobo9186
@milohobo9186 4 ай бұрын
You guys sleep for 8 hours a night?!?! In this economy!?!?
@shrichaudhary
@shrichaudhary Жыл бұрын
I disagree with you about your AC charging rate of 30 amp being inadequate. For most people, they will be doing that overnight and generally will not be going from empty to full so it’s more than fine. For instance, on my model, Y I just charge usually at 16 A, with my average usage of about 150 miles over three or four days. So I can usually charge from 20% to 80% just using 16 amp charging although I could increase it to 32 A on my level two. Slower charge rates are better for battery life.
@Necrotron
@Necrotron Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I have a 40 amp Grizzl-E EVSE that I haven't yet been able to hardwire yet, so I've instead set it down to 24 amps and plugged it into a NEMA 14-30 plug with an adapter. Charges my car just fine. It's not really necessary to go beyond 30-40 amps unless you're planning to get a MASSIVE battery car like a truck, where you need at least 48 amps to get performance similar to 30 amps on a smaller vehicle. I think the real problem here is the price: they really should be discounting it against other vehicles.
@kwrzesien17
@kwrzesien17 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you too. Just having 220V in the garage is enough for everyone. The point being is that 110V is not useful at all, and should be avoided at all costs. Any existing 220V will work, and if installing new service just have a 220V 50A socket installed and get the most economically priced EVSE you can find, install an oven whip from Home Depot if its a hardwire design and plug into socket.
@JakeShirley
@JakeShirley Жыл бұрын
Same, I never AC charge my Model 3 more than 32A. I wonder if the 30A onboard charger is the max it can sustain or if it's ~24A (80 percent rule).
@zeethree
@zeethree Жыл бұрын
I charge my EV6 with a 60A. Why would you settle for this in 2023 at over $60K? Japanese have not figured out EVs for some reason. Go for Korean or US EV makers right now. This is a piece of technology like a smartphone, not a car. The companies best at tech are winning (US, Korea, China).
@Necrotron
@Necrotron Жыл бұрын
@@zeethree as you said, it's more the price that's the problem. 30 amps on a $20-30Ks EV? That's fine. 30 amps on $40K and up? That car better give me a blow job over night while I wait
@AFJDM
@AFJDM Жыл бұрын
$63K for the loaded one? Dayum, the Ioniq 5/EV6 come fully loaded at almost $5K less, charge faster, have a better warranty, and are on par or better looking than this. Unless you need some of that 120 month 25% APR financing from Nissan I'd just go with a Korean offering.
@higherho1540
@higherho1540 7 ай бұрын
The acoustic laminate glass they installed really seems to help at keeping things quiet.
@akron82
@akron82 Жыл бұрын
Value wise I’m glad I got a Bolt EUV premier with super cruise
@ginijasso
@ginijasso Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing test I was thinking of just test driving it. But probably won’t seems like it is very vocal don’t like that noise. My Lexus hybrid is more quieter when it is running on the battery. Will you or have you test drive the Chevy blazer ? That was the one I was going to get but didn’t because they only offered 2 colors for the seating .
@willpatton9529
@willpatton9529 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to replace my Leaf one of these just have to wait about 5 years to afford it lol
@Josh-179
@Josh-179 Жыл бұрын
That's a heck of a lag time getting this video up. Broke up with Alyssa a few weeks ago.
@TheAdventureAuto
@TheAdventureAuto Жыл бұрын
I've gotten so spoiled with having that lower trunk tub area and frunk, that this is disappointing to see on a newly designed vehicle. I use my Tesla for absolutely everything and loading the tub with groceries then the top part larger items. I'm doing home improvements and loading 400lb of bricks in the trunk and frunk to even out weight. Going out to dinner and keeping leftover food in the front, or items that need to be kept cold being separate from the cabin is needed. First world problem but once you have a great feature like these it's hard to go back.
@nevea2be
@nevea2be Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. Car looks great on the outside. The electric motor whine and road noise is some of the loudest that I’ve heard in your videos, very annoying. From an ICE perspective I don’t think I’ve ever had a turn signal where you would go up twice to turn right and to turn it off. I’ve always had to push it back to center to turn it off, unless it did do it and I was just going on mental habit.
@CanOpiner
@CanOpiner Жыл бұрын
I love the looks
@bartwaggoner2000
@bartwaggoner2000 Жыл бұрын
not bad, but who wants all that shiny black plastic on the exterior?!
@nathanwolf5547
@nathanwolf5547 Жыл бұрын
In Europe the quality has been well received. I’m wondering if you guys get a lesser quality?
@azureactivedirectory
@azureactivedirectory Жыл бұрын
Hey at least it’s better than the bz4x/RZ, good first attempt?
@lordstevewilson1331
@lordstevewilson1331 Жыл бұрын
On my 08 audi TT you cancel indicator opposite way, its normal
@dwolfe46
@dwolfe46 Жыл бұрын
Kyle, could you post a table of EV models that do and do not have one pedal driving?
@kyleloeffler321
@kyleloeffler321 Жыл бұрын
Are you gonna review the Lyriq?
@johnturner7322
@johnturner7322 Жыл бұрын
I have no problem with USB A since persons like me do not buy the latest devices so my connections are older. I would not want to also have some type of adapter!
@BillB33525
@BillB33525 Жыл бұрын
lower end models will be great Socer Mom cars, take kids to school, grocery shoping, Lowes & HD runs.
@tommays56
@tommays56 Жыл бұрын
The leaf was such a legend people our hopefully this will be
@archonpericles
@archonpericles Жыл бұрын
Question? I heard you say something quickly about plastic parts scratching your leg. Can you please elaborate? I know the center console can be slid backwards and create more legroom. Does the plastic part on the floor where you can charge a phone with the wrap able wire scratch your thigh?
@kajko6868
@kajko6868 Жыл бұрын
I imagine he must manspread for some reason….
@fatmanosu
@fatmanosu Жыл бұрын
I like having USB A ports. So many cables that I have still use that. Also all my thumb drives are USB A if I do updates.
@blackwhirlwind1245
@blackwhirlwind1245 2 ай бұрын
Some people still use iPhone 7 or 8, including me, USB Type A still sees some uses, so I like having both both options.
@MissGoElectric
@MissGoElectric Жыл бұрын
Regarding the brake pedal, friction brakes are actually engaged when eStep is engaged. Both motors are externally excited synchronous motors so there are no permanent magnets. This is a significant departure from LEAF which has full ePedal. The electromagnetic consumption required to emulate PM for a complete stop could be problematic.
@ba177ba18
@ba177ba18 Жыл бұрын
Unless this car is wayyyyyyyy cheaper than the Model Y, this car has no chance to compete
@ginijasso
@ginijasso Жыл бұрын
I agree I would definitely buy a Tesla over this. The price is not good.
@Antoinemalone
@Antoinemalone Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't buy a tesla for free. Ariya easy!
@MrNicholg
@MrNicholg Жыл бұрын
Just bury Nissan now. I'm so saddened by their trajectory. The early 90s hurrah was what was needed here.
@kwrzesien17
@kwrzesien17 Жыл бұрын
They ran out Ghosen
@AmitPatel_.
@AmitPatel_. Жыл бұрын
I grew up a Nissan fan and still drive a 97 Maxima. There hasn’t been any compelling Nissan product in 20 years. RIP Nissan.
@kubi0461
@kubi0461 Жыл бұрын
This must explain why I saw 2 Ariya’s available sitting on my local dealer’s lot. I don’t hate it. I just don’t find it worth the cost. If Hyundai can get a handle on their vehicle fire issue, I’d ideally like to try out a Tucson or Santa Fe hybrid. 10:55 while all of my devices are usb-c now, almost all of my cables are usb-a to usb-c. Sure I can buy new cables but it’s nice to have usb-a port options.
@Harrythehun
@Harrythehun Жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that someone would choose old usb a standard in a modern car and also wanting old hybrids. But we are all different
@bubbledoubletrouble
@bubbledoubletrouble Жыл бұрын
Is Nissan passing on the $7500 EV lease credit? If so, perhaps lease and early exercise of the purchase option is a possibility.
@manolidadon6939
@manolidadon6939 Жыл бұрын
man thats a looker😍
@mikebrueton6716
@mikebrueton6716 4 ай бұрын
In the U.K. we only have three choices. Advance 63kw fwd. evolve 87kw fwd. eforce 87kw awd. Evolve has 22kw a.c. Charger
@michaels3003
@michaels3003 2 ай бұрын
Your AC voltage makes a big difference.
@0JEB0
@0JEB0 Жыл бұрын
In Europe the onboard charger is 3 phase 32A = 22 kW (Type2 connector) 🔋🔌👍
@steffenjensen9350
@steffenjensen9350 Жыл бұрын
NOT standard in all markets, like the Renault E-Megane, optional in some EU countries, and not possible on lower spec models.
@flattire707
@flattire707 Жыл бұрын
Think I shall keep my Model 3LR if you don't mind.
@SS-yw7vo
@SS-yw7vo Жыл бұрын
Alyssa is back!
@kgb3209
@kgb3209 Жыл бұрын
Can you review the Cadillac lyriq
@DouglasJMark
@DouglasJMark Жыл бұрын
Might sell a fair number of these to those not planning to road trip much and want a Japanese car as well. 🙏 ❤❤❤
@higherho1540
@higherho1540 7 ай бұрын
Tax credit isn’t a big deal. Nissan is giving equivalent rebates. Also the complaint about the turning on the car seat warmer, their is a little icon on the bottom left or right of the screen that turns it on. And that is on every screen option you press. Out the door price for me was 39k after rebates (I got 8k. Nissian customer, financing through nissian, and a dealer rebate). for the evolve + e4 force AWD.
@Antoinemalone
@Antoinemalone Жыл бұрын
On a road trip now with mine from los angeles to Houston. Loving it. What kyle and others fail to mention about DCFC is those cars with faster ones will degrade faster. Everyone is so worried about the fastest rate until they see their car won't last as long as they thought. Nissan was smart to put it at 130 kw max.
@joemcdonough7509
@joemcdonough7509 Жыл бұрын
A recent study has proven this theory to be untrue. Watch TFL's video: "You’ll Be Surprised How Long EV Batteries Last". Tesla Model 3 has shown to have only 1% of their vehicles that required battery replacements. And they charge at 250kw peak.
@Antoinemalone
@Antoinemalone Жыл бұрын
@joemcdonough7509 that's odd my sister has a 5 year old tesla battery has degraded badly. But it's a known fact with lithium ion batteries that they degrade faster with fast charges same with phones etc. Not sure what kind of batteries tesla uses though not a tesla fan. I just know my sisters situation.
@joemcdonough7509
@joemcdonough7509 Жыл бұрын
@@Antoinemalone It does happen but at an insanely low 1% rate, based on the 15,000 cars they reviewed.
@waynerussell6401
@waynerussell6401 10 ай бұрын
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@ViperVisor
@ViperVisor Жыл бұрын
If the base could get this red paint it would be a maybe at $39,999 It looks nice.
@Lewis_Standing
@Lewis_Standing Жыл бұрын
My Kona does 77kw DC fast charging..... 150kw is fine, doesn't suck at all. Maybe you Americans road trip more than most. But in the UK I can basically drive from top to bottom before needing to charge. Don't mind a break at the end of a 300 mile trip. You have a special use case Kyle, I'd rather my battery lasts than has crazy fast charging.
@BhavanaKarusala
@BhavanaKarusala Жыл бұрын
We have several states that are longer than 300 miles. So yeah us Americans do drive more.
@yystl
@yystl Жыл бұрын
UK seems more like a special case where everything is closer together. Even continental Europe has significantly greater distances.
@markfitzpatrick6692
@markfitzpatrick6692 Жыл бұрын
Kyle always goes off the deep end with his comments. He never thinks that most people are not him and 125-135 is fine. The bolt maxes at 55 kw but people love it.
@Lewis_Standing
@Lewis_Standing Жыл бұрын
Still 300 miles Is a 5 hour drive. You need a 40 min rest.
@joshuarosen465
@joshuarosen465 Жыл бұрын
The difference between Americans and the British is that Americans think 100 years is a long time and the British think 100 miles is a long distance.
@steffenjensen9350
@steffenjensen9350 Жыл бұрын
I never had a car that was not able to open the rear hatch while car was “on” ,,,is it configurable ?
@kajko6868
@kajko6868 Жыл бұрын
No, you just have to put it in ”Park”. This review is stupid in so many ways.
@pumpintuner
@pumpintuner Жыл бұрын
Great video although it would’ve been nice if we could’ve had another camera angle from Alyssa to see areas of the infotainment system not captured by the mounted cams. No one pedal driving & lack of tax credit sucks
@jasonblair4057
@jasonblair4057 Жыл бұрын
I can not believe how expensive this car is. When it comes to the AWD the Ioniq 5/EV6 have it beat by a few thousand but you can’t get one of those in a decent timeframe,we know why you can get an Ariya much quicker. Nissan needs to address their pricing or be left in the dust.
@ryansherman4556
@ryansherman4556 Жыл бұрын
ionq5 and ev 6 cost around 60k
@jasonblair4057
@jasonblair4057 Жыл бұрын
@@ryansherman4556 That is true, the Ariya loaded is $69k that is model y money which is makes choosing the y an easy choice.
@ryansherman4556
@ryansherman4556 Жыл бұрын
@@jasonblair4057 nope the ariya is 63 out the door not 69 and the model y need a 12 k upgrade to match pro pilot 2
@jasonblair4057
@jasonblair4057 Жыл бұрын
@@ryansherman4556 Ah, I should have said I was configuring one here in Ontario, Canada. Out here too spec without a list of options is the same price as a long range model y.
@kwrzesien17
@kwrzesien17 Жыл бұрын
Liquid cooling and 125kW CCS?! That’s a GIANT leap forward from 50kW ChAdeMo especially if it can hold that rate for 30 minutes!
@kylinblue
@kylinblue Жыл бұрын
Yes, from a leaf. The world already moved on to 250kw+
@victorcaballero2487
@victorcaballero2487 Жыл бұрын
Too little too late… pass
@godofdun
@godofdun Жыл бұрын
12:59 Where in the hell are you seeing lease deals that good for the EQS?! lol
@Necrotron
@Necrotron Жыл бұрын
On the 135 kw DC fast charging max rate, I remember last year Nissan addressed it by saying they're taking an e-tron approach and aiming for a consistent , flat-as-possible curve. I don't know how true that is in practice, though.
@steveallwine1443
@steveallwine1443 Жыл бұрын
From what I’ve seen on tests, it holds ~125 KWh like a champ, all the way to 80% until it starts to ramp down. The charge curve is super flat.
@Necrotron
@Necrotron Жыл бұрын
@@steveallwine1443 that's actually not too bad! How long is the to-80% time?
@KyleConner
@KyleConner Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to testing! Went last night to do the 0-100% and the charger failed 10 minutes in. We’ll go again tonight
@ryansherman4556
@ryansherman4556 Жыл бұрын
@@Necrotron i have seen around 35 minutes i have also seen in 0 c go from 2% to 80% in 38 minutes
@Wasssup3232
@Wasssup3232 Жыл бұрын
@@Necrotron it’s consistently 30 to 38 minutes depending on how cold it is. Nissan electrified did a lot of charge testing and Bjorn did a charge competition with the id4
@smarticus6384
@smarticus6384 Жыл бұрын
It seems like there was quite a bit of engineering conflict going on with this design. The Ariya could have been something special, but instead, it's more like a Detroit-built EV where too many design teams were making too many conflicting decisions that negatively impact the final production variant.
@carsonassociates3263
@carsonassociates3263 Жыл бұрын
And perhaps more than a little paranoia about customers wanting EVs to feel and drive like their ICE cars (i.e. no true 1-pedal driving). It’s like when Ford et al bury the SOC% display deep in the Infotainment, as if they think their customers are too stupid to handle the mental math required to competently drive an EV.
@paulnicholls2512
@paulnicholls2512 2 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that the US 87 kWh doesn't have 22 kWh AC charging the same as the UK models!
@jsandoval423
@jsandoval423 Жыл бұрын
Alissa is back missed you in the videos you need your own out of spec channel 😊
@Emily09876g
@Emily09876g Жыл бұрын
I think this video was filmed awhile ago. He's dating someone else.
@LordStevie
@LordStevie Жыл бұрын
@@Emily09876g She still works with Kyle, they just aren’t romantically involved any more.
@justinstewart3248
@justinstewart3248 Жыл бұрын
@@Emily09876g what? Really?! They’re done??
@DM-fv7hw
@DM-fv7hw Ай бұрын
I watched your latest video on this first (My friend bought one) and have to say if you can get a great lease deal why not. I'm tired of hearing about range and fast charging. An electric car purchase (lease), for us, would be a second car, a car to drive every day, not a car to drive on long road trips and such. We'll have an ICE vehicle for that. At the rate I drive on a daily basis this would probably be charged once every two weeks, at home.
@universeisundernoobligatio3283
@universeisundernoobligatio3283 Жыл бұрын
With my Y tried out my new CCS adaptor, parked beside a Ariya, its so much bigger then my Y.
@Josh-179
@Josh-179 Жыл бұрын
Yet, the Model Y is bigger in every respect inside, plus a front trunk.
@silviuguseila2552
@silviuguseila2552 Жыл бұрын
@@Josh-179 he said the Y is smaller
@Fumbiii16
@Fumbiii16 Жыл бұрын
Looks big outside but y beats it inside
@diablo81588
@diablo81588 Жыл бұрын
@@Fumbiii16No way, the Y is the width of a compact car. Way too narrow to be comfortable for anything other than short commutes.
@dusty-vo8gh
@dusty-vo8gh Жыл бұрын
11:19 what happened to the stitching besides the seatbelt.
@stevedowler2366
@stevedowler2366 Жыл бұрын
Very nice looking external, esp like the wheel covers. Too bad with that huge sub taking up a lot of space in the trunk. With no frunk and mini trunk space, they blew the function this car is targeted for which is touring and road trips.
@flattire707
@flattire707 Жыл бұрын
Maybe a fail in most regards, but at least the wheel covers are nice. How can I resist?
@genesishep
@genesishep Жыл бұрын
I believe you already know this Kyle but you still can get the tax credit on this vehicle it just has to be through a lease not a purchase. Unless they have changed that recently?
@FrankD71864
@FrankD71864 Жыл бұрын
What if I need a USB A?
@Smiler7
@Smiler7 Жыл бұрын
Nissan removed the RED colour option from the Ariya. How did you get one?
@PineApple-bs8rt
@PineApple-bs8rt Жыл бұрын
There was never one. The platinum+ came in only 4 colors if I remember right.
@kajko6868
@kajko6868 Жыл бұрын
Sotp? What does ”Stop” mean?
@flattire707
@flattire707 Жыл бұрын
Poor storage, no back seat room, high price, slow charging, no one pedal driving and poor range considering battery size. Thanks for not sugar coating the review.
@SethPinnock
@SethPinnock Жыл бұрын
I would have preferred if this was their versa philosophy in crossover EV form.
@kwrzesien17
@kwrzesien17 Жыл бұрын
If the 3 year delay was to add a liquid cooler battery system then it may have been worth it, but they lost their EV leader status with that delay.
@EggertOlafs
@EggertOlafs Жыл бұрын
The Ariya was designed to be liquid cooled right from the start. Nissan was very unlucky when it came to covid. They designed and built a whole new factory just for Ariya, and the pandemic hit when the factory was also only 1/4 ready. So when things started opening up, they needed to finish the factory first and calibrate it before they could even start making the car. And by the way, I was one of the first to order e-4orce in Norway, mid-September 2021. My first delivery date was june 2022, so no, it's not 3 years delayed.
@DylanKoenig
@DylanKoenig Жыл бұрын
Rofl, hey what do you think of this mass produced new electric car? "The stitching on the back passenger seat is coming apart, so not very good" Someone could have damaged that at the port, dealership, or reviewing it.... smfh
@SS-yw7vo
@SS-yw7vo Жыл бұрын
How do you get to be a product planner and not understand triplicate of choice?
@themiddleground5263
@themiddleground5263 Жыл бұрын
hard disagree on USB-A, I don't have a single device that doesn't use it. I'd have to get all new cables.
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