I ENGINEERED MY RANGER! Legal Lift And Tyres On The Next Gen

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Жыл бұрын

Yes it's road legal! My V6 Ranger goes through engineering in Western Australia for a lift and bigger tyres.
In this video, I step through the whole engineering process, timing and costs involved.
This video is not sponsored, with all products and the install paid for by me.
Refer to the suspension installation video here for details on suspension parts installed on his Next Gen Ranger: • IRONMAN SUSPENSION LIF...
You can skip to the sections below with the timestamps listed:
00:59 Pays to do your research
01:29 Why get my car engineered?
02:36 Some context to my situation
04:11 The engineering steps
15:14 Approval
15:30 The costs
16:20 New vehicle details
16:41 Final thoughts
Department of Transport homepage:
www.transport.wa.gov.au/
List of Engineers:
www.transport.wa.gov.au/media...
Vlad (Engineer details)
0459345268
vlad.diaconita@gmail.com
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Cheers Mark

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@michaelwright8834 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing this. You have made me realise that every 4wd I've had was not legal and now I have to factor in these costs on the new ranger I've got coming. Keep up to good work! 👍

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. I think a lot of people would be in the same boat. Congrats on the new purchase 👍

@tonyhughes2071 Жыл бұрын

What an excellent account of how to approach the legal lift process and step by step guide to getting approval.

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Thanks. A big process but happy to have it all legal

@kentaylor2950 Жыл бұрын

Just got my v6 wildtrak, in WA too. Not looking to lift it or anything just yet. Gonna take it to my local spots (mostly beaches) to see if i absolutely need the mods. i am extremely thankful for these guides in case i do in the future, cheers mate keep up the great work.

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ken 👌 You’re definitely approaching it the right way. They are capable out of the box, so best to try it stock and you might be able to save yourself a heap of money. The only question mark for me stock if going offroad stock is the tyres. Mine had highway tyres when new and I feel they are vulnerable to a sidewall puncture offroad. Another option down the track for you could be putting on some better quality AT tyres with a 2 or 3 ply sidewall. Enjoy your new ride 👍

@MsKillbot22 Жыл бұрын

The new audio setup sounds fantastic mate

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate 😊

@rollyb5061 Жыл бұрын

very well covered on engineering process of 4wds , i found a lot of different opinions of how this is done , you did a lot of research and covered it well👍

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Appreciate the feedback 👍

@jzhou7207 Ай бұрын

Thanks for your video! Your step-by-step content is amazing! I am in WA too. Recently, I just got my Ranger. I am wondering if I need to submit the mod form to the DOT if I only install a bullbar and canopy.

@Perth4WDandCamping Ай бұрын

No worries. Was a bit of a process but worth it for the extra payload and lift. I didn’t do a mod form for the bullbar.

@jordanreynolds4458 6 ай бұрын

Great video cheers man, also shows why most people run lift a tyre mods without this process so complicated and extensive

@Perth4WDandCamping 6 ай бұрын

Yeah 100%. A lot of red tape for a simple 2” lift and 33s but that’s the process here in WA

@JCKloppers Жыл бұрын

Awesome mate !

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate 😁

@CRDStudios Жыл бұрын

Awesome video, I've been thinking of doing the same to my Ranger, But lucky I watched your video as I thought it was 50mm lift and a 50mm larger tyre, so had I done both like you, I'd have been way over and not known. Which kind of wheel flares have you put on, they look awesome.

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. Plenty of people out there running vehicles over the legal height unaware, so glad it helped 😁 I’m running the EGR flares. They’re perfect with the +30 ROH rims I’m running

@user-wx8vg5jh6w 9 ай бұрын

Hey mate just wondering if the engineering cert is only valid for Western Australia as you have done this after rego? Love the content, keep it up

@Perth4WDandCamping 9 ай бұрын

G’day. Thanks. If I was to reregister the vehicle in another state then some paperwork/additional certification may be needed - would have to check with the particular state. In terms of driving through another state temporarily, this would be under my WA registration where the mods are approved. When I do this I’ll carry a copy of my DOT (WA) approval.

@danielflinn3571 Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Welcome 👍

@joachimeliasnel752 Жыл бұрын

Good video. Just rewatch the last bit again. What does the NEW TARE of 2540kg include? Is that with full tank of fuel and one person onboard?

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

It’s when it’s empty - no cargo, no passengers, 10L of fuel. Your tare will vary depending on what mods you’ve added (bullbar, winch, roof racks etc)

@markymark8472 Жыл бұрын

Great video Mark. It shouldn’t be this hard tho in my opinion, the suspension manufacturer should get their suspension certified and all you’d have to do it get a mechanic to install it, not all these hoops to jump through with engineers, surely Ironman and arb have already done the engineering on it before they bring it to market.

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate. Yeah agree - it’s a big process and would be amazing if it could be simplified. GVM only can be quite a simple process if you go ARB, Ironman etc which offer those packages, but it’s when you start adding bigger tyres and a lift that it gets complicated.

@CH-ef9he Жыл бұрын

Thank you for content. Trying to decide if going for a gvm upgrade of 3500 or 3650. What was end weight loaded when compared to gvm?

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

We were pretty much on the GVM of 3449kg for the test. There was a lot of weight added by the engineer. Just note there’s a few additional things you’ll need to do if going over 3500kg such as adding the additional lights to the side of the vehicle. You can always reach out to an engineer before you lock in suspension and talk through what you’re trying to achieve

@user-ne4xz8ys5k Жыл бұрын

Great video! Whats the total height of the vehicle now? Not including the roof antenna ? Cheers

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

1.9M

@10mmsocketAdventures Жыл бұрын

This is why I did my XLT pre rego. NSW. All done by ARB.

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Nice mate. You running a lift too? As far as I’m aware ARB only do the GVM, not lift

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

I approached my local ARB initially to see if there was an option to do the GVM, plus get engineering for bigger tyres. Was told could only do the GVM

@10mmsocketAdventures Жыл бұрын

Yes, you could be right.

@eddietran3760 Жыл бұрын

Thanks - great video. I am based in regional WA, and those who are also regional, getting engineering would be impossible without heading into the city. Any tips on this?

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Thanks. Have you checked out the engineers list on the DOT area to see if any are based outside of the metro area?

@eddietran3760 Жыл бұрын

yes, none up North in Broome unfortunately. or anywhere near here

@eddietran3760 Жыл бұрын

and it seems we need access to a racetrack

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

@@eddietran3760 I’d suggest giving either Vlad a call (his number is in the description) and asking for his advice, or you can call DOT on 08 9216 8579 and see if they can point you in the right direction. Sorry I’m unable to help further but I’d suggest this approach first.

@tomstone2080 3 ай бұрын

What was the total amount of the lift in the end (tyres and suspension) - are locked in to always putting that type of tyre on you vehicle (different tyres could mean a bigger lift)

@Perth4WDandCamping 3 ай бұрын

60mm. Tyres have very aggressive tread so won’t be an issue going to other brands of tyres unless I go a bigger size (Eg 33 to 35)

@daveolsen5173 Жыл бұрын

Gday mate why did need the gvm upgrade? Was that because you have the long range fuel tank and bull bar etc?

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

Was worth doing at the same time as the cost is very similar just to engineer the lift. The new suspension is capable of handling more load than stock so it’s a win-win. The Ranger’s payload is ok, but I just had the opportunity to get that bit more. The extra GVM I’ve gained is about equivalent to the amount of tow-ball download when I’m towing the van, so I get the payload back to carry additional gear if necessary. Plus as you’ve noted it helps to offset some of the additional mods I’ve added.

@daveolsen5173 Жыл бұрын

Awesome thanks mate I’m looking into the same thing atm with my next generation wildtrak Your video has been very helpful

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

@@daveolsen5173 no worries. Glad it helped 👍

@richardwalsh5570 Жыл бұрын

Did you look at Outback Armour? What was your original rim offset? 👍

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

I had a look at OA but not in a lot of detail. I’m sure their gear is good but have never personally run it on a vehicle. In the end I went for what I have used and trust offroad. Stock 17s tyres are a +55 offset. +30 is as much as you can go to keep within 50mm in WA

@richardwalsh5570 Жыл бұрын

@@Perth4WDandCamping i thought the cost was pretty reasonable, I thought the ranger would have been 3500 GVM? What are they? ( I have Hilux 😮)

@richardwalsh5570 Жыл бұрын

@@Perth4WDandCamping cool, my Hilux is p30 stock I am going to P7 Fuel rims to keep legal. Everyone says go p0 but there illegal.

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

@@richardwalsh5570 yeah best to keep legal 👍

@youngnomadsco Жыл бұрын

have you had any issues with driveline vibration at all?

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

No issues

@richardwalsh5570 Жыл бұрын

Do you need approval by law? I am fully into being legal, however, to my understanding is that you dont need to have Engineering for your lift the size you have gone 50 mm (usually a 50mm lift is a bit less) and tyres/wheel offset? I understand to get the GVM upgrade you need engineering.

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

In WA you can only go 50mm over stock height (total increase) - a 2” lift will take you to this limit so the addition of bigger tyres would put me over. For me 33s and a 2” lift is a perfect combo for what we do and thus requires engineering - even if I didn’t want a GVM upgrade I’d have to get signed off by an engineer to be legal. Plenty of people running a similar set up with no engineering, but for the reasons outlined in my vid, that’s a risk some people gamble on (insurance etc) - not the way I wanted to approach it.

@Haydnymat6 Жыл бұрын

I love this only thing I don’t like is if you get it engendered post registration then it’s only legal in the state that it was done in so if you were to say drive to QLD it will not be legal

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

G’day Haydn. If I was to reregister the vehicle in another state then there may be some paperwork/additional certification needed - you’d have to check with the particular state. In terms of driving through another state temporarily, this would be under my WA registration where the mods are approved. When I do this I’ll carry a copy of my DOT approval.

@Haydnymat6 Жыл бұрын

@@Perth4WDandCamping ye that sounds like a good plan. Just to keep it all compliant . Loving the content though kate keep it up

@connor3795 Жыл бұрын

Did you notice an increase in your insurance once you got the engineering completed?

@Perth4WDandCamping Жыл бұрын

My policy based on value of mods etc, and everything covered as long as legal etc. I have adequate cover to cover my mods so would be no further increase. Definitely worth checking with your insurer however and their position if you go down this route