why did I read the title and think it took you 25 years to make this savefile

So Cindy is basically telling us that she is a WAY BETTER writer for The Sims than The Sims Team themselves... I'm not surprised😂🤷🏾‍♂️ But this is so cool! Absolutely love that sims from the first playthrough of Pleasantview are there! Keep up the best work Cindy!💙 I'm really think of remaking this in Ts2 cause I absolutely wanna play this save file! Just not in Ts4😂

this makes perfect sense. four games, each covering a quarter of a century. sims 3 > sims 1 > sims 2 > sims 4. I love it!

Personally, I never hated that the Sims 4 was on an alternate timeline. I just hated the lack of _lore_ on these Sims that are supposed to be dramatic and iconic. It's awesome to see how Cindy imagines if the Sims 4 wasn't on an alternate timeline.

It's so clear how much you really care about the families and their stories. It's pretty obvious that the EA team didn't really care about the townies, and that gave me the impression that you weren't supposed to play them (oops). As I've never played any previous EA games I thought that townies were sort of for decoration, and only existed to make the worlds look less,,,, dead? Although I assume if I had begun playing previous games instead of just TS4 I wouldn't have had this issue. Great video! Keep it up!

Don totally comes across as someone who would be closer to his son and neglect his daughters. He's super insecure about his own masculinity.

I don't know about you, but it always bugged me how in the sims 4 originally (base game), Cassandra Goth was a teen, and Don Lothario is older than her, unlike in the sims 2, where they were, y'know, engaged and almost the same age! It's like they didn't WANT you to recreate that in the sims 4, and pursue that story-line. Plus they pretty much made all of the sims white who were more medium skin toned, (main exampled being Cassandra Goth and Bella Goth, and even Nina and Dina, since I think they were a bit darker in the sims 2 than they are in the sims 4!) They really just did them ALL dirty tbh.

Dina is very open minded about her son’s relationship. We stan a skinny, scamming queen!

Now imma wait for strangetown and veronaville 25 years later

You should do another savefile that is 25 years before the sims 3. That would be really cool.

I like to think that Don traveling to the past in TS3 somehow made TS4 an alternate timeline

I love how the new generation sims are based off your original pleasantview lets play, can’t wait to download!

Pleasantview flooding sounds like what happened to my parish after hurricane Katrina hit us 😅 completely flooded, coastal town, lots of people left bc of the destruction! I feel seen LOL You did an amazing job once again at creating actual lore for the series! Your hard work is appreciated ❤️

Take a shot every time Cindy says "Completely remodeled" xD

Thanks for watching everyone! There are now four versions on the download page for expansion packs if you have them. The main save file remains base game compatible. Hope you have fun playing these Sims! Also, I forgot to introduce Casper Goth! He's a creative art lover, who I can see growing up to be a sensitive artist. :) And one more thing - Dina and Nina's ages don't match. I know. I'm fixing it. UPDATE: Ages are fixed. Update #2 - Don and Dina don't know each other. Thank you for pointing that out! I am fixing it now. UPDATE: The relationship is fixed now. I won't be able to read all the comment on this video, so if you find anything else that needs to be fixed, please leave a comment on the blog post. Thank you!

A very interesting and complexed save file! Ofc with some eps it's gonna be even better but this is what Sims 4 should have been! Your efforts to make Sims 4 alive are for every appriciation,amazing job! Interesting backstories ✔ Connected families ✔ Space for player's own vision ✔ EA take a note

Im sorry if its hard but can you try to make oasis spring/strangerville strange town? Its my 2 favorite town in the sims games... thank you, your videos makes me very happy in this quarentine!

EA should have you create the sims and stories for The Sims 5... If that game ever happens 😂

You are the saving grace the Sims 4 needs, but doesn't deserve.

I sincerely admire your dedication to the lore that even creators lack, it's so nice to see every little touch to detail in this neighborhood and how true these sims are to their sims 2 selves.

When you realize that the save file is based in her first pleasantview lets play 😭❤️😭❤️ thank you so much for this !

This video reminded me why I LOVED Sims 2. The game having lore & feeling like you're playing with established lives really made the game that much more fun. This so looks amazing!!

Cindy this is very interesting ! Your save file make me wanna reinstall sims 4 just to play them! I wish they went with this idea for the lore in sims 4 but then again they’d probably screw it up as always

I love how this is based off of your Sims 2 story! Will there be a save file where Cassandra and Mary-Sue are married? I thought that was such a cute storyline from your original Pleasantview LP 🥺

this gives depth to the game and it makes it coherent and connected with the other games, as it should have been. you're really out here saving ts4 for us 😊❤️

Cindy not only gave us the DEPTH the Sims 4 desperately needs, she also gave us WIDTH, LENGTH AND HEIGHT 😂😍. Thanks for this! A strangetown one would be amazing. Regards from Chile

Ahhh I love that you linked this to your Pleasantview series! EA should hang their head in shame, how much Lore did you cram in here!

you’re the key to the sims community !

My question is why can’t the Sims Team do something like this this is absolutely amazing and I love it but is it really that hard for me to do something with us because it seems to be I’m just happy that you did it thank you you brought what is Sims four should’ve been to life

I love how you've carried on their stories. I'm genuinely tempted to play TS4 for the first time in months just to try your save out! Great job. ☺️

better than the "not part of the timeline/alternate timeline" by EA

EA needs to hire Cindy to write the stories for the sims. Also I hope she does a let's play of this neighborhood.

I LOVE this willow creek save! I like how you continued your original PV

This seems like sentiments would add a lot to it. Btw, your dedication, I could never...

This is just making me want to create a save of my own and blend some Sim/households from all previous games that aren't so popular and throw them in my game. Anyways, I might download this too. It's just so very well detailed~ Love it

I’ve only ever played TS4 but this feels so much more well rounded and fun. Everyone knows each other, related sims are actually in each other’s family trees, the stories give you something to play off? And the next gen sims have histories! I’m amazed every time you make files like this

I really love this idea and putting Sims from the OG SIms 2 PV Let's Play makes me happy.

This is so amazing and well thought out I’m obsessed!! I can’t imagine how much work this must have taken literally everything has been thought through

omg i completely loved this. You should consider making a series on this save file for the sims 4!

Thank you for doing this! I’ve been nonstop binging your stream reuploads, and trying to make sims 4 fun to play and this will be amazing to play with!!

Fun new stories for The Sims 2! Like that you included all The Sims from your The Sims 2 Let's Plays but where is Sam Burb (John and Jennifer's fifth child)? :D I also hate that EA lazily went the alternative timeline route. I "fix" The Sims 4 by incorporating all the lore from the first three games while not erasing the new characters / scenarios that were introduced in The Sims 4. It's a lot of work but hope you enjoy reading the novel I wrote below. :D Here's what I do for the core families that exist across multiple games. The established Sims continuity is that The Sims 3 comes first, The Sims 1 occurs 25 years later and The Sims 2 storyline occurs 25 years after. I establish The Sims 4 as taking place 10 years before the events of The Sims 2 (which mostly fits except for the Landgraabs and the Pleasants / Brokes / Dreamers they shoehorn in later in the series - I explain this by saying The Sims 4 is an alien's very small simulation of earthling families their interested in, which explains timeline inconsistencies but that most events that happen in The Sims 4 occured as per The Sims 4, just at different times with some inconsistencies). *Goth / Crumplebottom (and Brokes and Pleasants):* First of all, I recreate the deceased ancestors of the Goths. A Goth home without a graveyard is not a Goth house. Unfortunately, their backyard is too small to have the graveyard I want so I have to build an underground mausoleum instead. I recreate all the deceased Goths - Mortimer's father Gunther, his paternal grandparents Victor and Gretle, his late aunt Frida and his late grand-uncle Samuel and his late wife Olivia (from The Sims 3: Supernatural). Gunther's first wife Lolita (ghost named Lolita Goth appears in Sunset Valley in The Sims 3) is also there. Mortimer's maternal grandparents Simon and Prudence are also buried here in addition to his aunt Agnes Crumplebottom. I have a sad backstory for Agnes. After Erik Darling died in The Sims 3, she adopted a child. She then went on to marry Robert Crumplebottom (who was mentioned as her husband in The Sims 1 and he may or may not be a distant relative - but hey the Crumplebottoms are rich aristocrats)! She went on to have three more children with Robert. Robert was a philanthroper, puppeteer (and magician in my game); and the Crumplebottoms went onto live a life of adventure on the road. But an accident went wrong on the road (maybe actual nefarious magic was involved) which resulted in Robert and Agnes' three eldest children perishing (Robert and the children went onto become the ghosts of Vegas, Cousin, Bratty and Boy who were in the Goth graveyard in The Sims 1). Robert Crumplebottom is also the brother of the Crumplebottom witches who appear in The Sims 3: Supernatural. Agnes has one remaining son Derek who she smothered with affection but became embittered otherwise. Derek married a woman very much like his mother named Missy Crumplebottom. I intend for Derek to die tragically at some point in my game with Missy becoming the Mrs. Crumplebottom we meet in The Sims 2. Bella's family are also buried in the Goth mausoleum including Simis Bachelor, Jocasta Bachelor, Simis' parents Milton and Enriqueta and I created parents Yiannis and Eleni for Jocasta Bachelor as it annoyed me that her parents were missing. Back to the present day Goths in The Sims 4, Cornelia Goth is still alive as Cassandra's memories in The Sims 2 indicate that Cornelia didn't die until Cassandra became an adult. I have recently bereaved Cornelia and her two very elderly cats Hecuba and Menelaus from The Sims: Unleashed move in to Ophelia Villa. However, I age Cassandra up to the start of her young adult years, ready to attend university as there should be a wide age gap between her and Alexander. I age Alexander down to a toddler as toddlers didn't exist in The Sims 4 at launch. Bella is aged up from young adult to adult as her and Mortimer should be around the same age. I believe she's just shown as an adult rather than elder in The Sims 2 because that's when she was last seen. Anyway, I maintain The Sims 4 decision to make Bella a secret agent. She becomes very interested in the paranormal and occult through that career and that's how she becomes entangled with aliens (among other things). Meanwhile Cassandra befriends sweet couple Darren Dreamer and Darlene Matlapin at university (who may have an unexpected surprise on the way). Cassandra remains living at Ophelia Villa throughout her university years with her family. She is childhood friends with newly married Mary-Sue Pleasant who is dealing with two stressful toddlers while her husband Daniel navigates the ups and downs (and special benefits) as an up and coming athlete. Young Brandi and Skip Broke also try to make ends meet with their toddler son Dustin in the poorest part of Willow Creek. *Caliente / Lothario:* Meanwhile over in Oasis Springs, Dina and Nina Caliente live with their STEPmother Katrina and her new very young boyfriend Don Lothario. I recreate the Calientes' original TS2 family tree of deceased family members. Their kind mother Nighat passed away when the twins were children (as established in their memories in TS2). While Nina and Dina were in their teens, their father Flamenco went onto marry Katrina Embry. Katrina is impulsive and often irresponsible and may not have married Flamenco for completely pure reasons but grew to love her new husband and her stepdaughters, despite her often tumultuous relationship with them. After Flamenco died suddenly, Katrina had to step up to the plate but struggles to be a decent surrogate mother and has a complicated relationship with her two fiery stepdaughters. She's trying to get rich quick through the entertainment career but will new toyboy Don Lothario mooch all her money from her to pay for medical school, after falling out with his no-nonsense parents Nicolo and Adriana (still alive around TS4 time and also living in Oasis Springs)? *Landgraab:* There's some timeline inconsistencies with the Landgraabs as Malcolm Landgraab should be the same age as Mortimer and Bella and not a teen as he is in The Sims 4. Even staying consistent with Mortimer's age, he would also be too young to be Malcolm Landgraab IV's great-grandfather from The Sims 2. To address the first issue, The Sims 4 is a tiny simulation of families of interest to the aliens and they made some mistakes with the timeline. :D Nevertheless, all the Landgraabs do exist. My backstory is that Nancy Landgraab is the niece of Malcolm Landgraab I (who never appears in any games and who I have made an elder brother of Nancy's father Chester). The Landgraabs are traditionalists with strict age old traditions determining what each member of the family should do. However, Nancy believes she the business acumen and qualities necessary to do the Landgraab name proud. She plays along with her domineering uncle first, marrying Geoffrey (but making him take her name) and giving birth to son John. However, she eventually becomes tired of her uncle's lack of appreciation and has a huge falling out with the family and a schism happens. She chooses the revered name Malcolm for her second son even though Malcolm I had named his own second child Malcolm II his heir. Malcolm II goes onto have The Sims 2 family tree, resulting in Malcolm IV as the most recent generation. Meanwhile, there's plenty of drama with Nancy and Geoffrey as her eldest son John reveals he does not want to build the Landgraab legacy for her and wishes to become a comedian instead. Incensed that her eldest son will not realise all her dreams, she disowns him completely and he goes on to become comedian Johnny Zest. Johnny moves in with permanent college student Michael Bachelor and the two of them buddy around Oasis Springs living a fun, laidback lifestyle and flirting with women. With Johnny gone, Nancy pours all her resources into her second son Malcolm, a quiet good natured boy. When he reaches his teens, he strays away from his father's more good natured tendencies to developing some of his mother's more cut-throat attributes and follows in her footsteps. While Nancy presents herself as a legitimate businesswoman as is the case in The Sims 3, she is secretly involved in some criminal activities which explains in her involvement in the criminal career in The Sims 4. Geoffrey is a doctor as he is in The Sims 4. However, despite his often bumbling appearance and the perception as a pushover, Geoffrey is involved with a secret organisation (that Bella is also apart of) believing themselves to do good that often fight off the amoral secret organisation (that Nancy is part of). Arson is a common tactic used by both resulting in fires plaguing the Goth and Landgraab's family histories and their homes. Malcolm Landgraab (Nancy and Geoffrey's son) changes his surname from Landgraab to Landgrabb (his name on The Sims 1 on console) to differentiate himself from his estranged successful relatives Malcolm II, Malcolm III and Malcolm IV. However, Malcolm Landgrabb becomes a ruthless real estate developer in his own right. He ends up marrying Hannelore (The Sims 3 DS) and having two spoiled children Dudley and Mimi (The Sims 1 console). His relationship will end with Hannelore and he'll take up with the cantankerous, facial loving character known as "Mom" (again as per The Sims on console). Hope you enjoyed the read and an alternative take on establishing a new lore for The Sims 4!

Great job btw! What I am missing from this story which could add even more depht / realism; - sims with negative traits and backstory, like anger management issues (hot headed), narcisism (self absorted) - different body types, for example Daniel Pleasant’s son struggle with his weight due to his depression of their parents divorce and it makes Daniel bully him as he is a big sportsman etc. - maybe some really extreme case when a teen ran away and living alone or somebody lost everything due to divorce or some unhealthy habit (partiing maybe) and went homeless (empty lot with a tent) - more people of color - pets (I know it’s not basegame)

I recently found your channel during quarantine, and I love the way you play sims! So different, I downloaded this save file, and I’m fixing it up a little bit in Newcrest before I play. And I’m excited to play with these new rules. Thank you for taking the time to put it all together for people!

Thank you so much for creating this, Cindy! Creating save files takes so much work so its awesome you're doing this!

Wow you single handily put in more effort in these stories, sims relationships and houses than ts4 team/gurus. The whole alternative timeline is just a cop out. Anyways this is just amazing.

This is fun! I might try this one out, the only reason I haven't so far is because I haven't played the Sims 4 in months! But your save file is fun, and pretty different than other ones I've stumbled across. I enjoy the lore based stuff!

You did such an amazing job!!! I look forward to playing this as well as your future versions, whatever they may be. All of your content is so inspiring and is helping me love all the Sims games again ❤️

You’re an angel!!! 😭😭 You really poured your heart into this 😩❤️

I have a few questions: -Why is not Alexander married to Cecile Goth like in the Goth family lore? -Why if Cassandra, Daniel, Mary, Brandy, Don, Dina and Nina, are around the same age in the sims 2, (also in the sims 1 Cassandra and Daniel are the same life stage), Daniel, Mary-Sue, and Brandy are elders and not the others? Aslo the same goes for Darren, isn't he supposed to have around the same age with Cassandra? -In the sims 3 why is Keighleen Langreak (I hope i wrote it right, I'm very bad with names) a child in the sims 3 when she wasn't suppossed to be born in that time line? -Did Bella and Mortimer lived a happy life after she managed to come back? -Why the sims 4 doesn't have personal bios? Wouldn't it be better if EA added them? Would it be possible to accesit from the CAS I just started to make questions trying to remember another question that I couldn't remember.

She used her first pleasentview from a cuople years ago. Man i loved those videos , and the ones up to day. Love you videos.

I just found you recently and I've been bingeing on your videos for the past 3 days. :) You've also helped me find some essential mods for my sims 2 game (for which I thank you)

Cindy, this is absolutely wonderful! 😭 Thank you so much for making this! ❤️ I haven't even tried to play The Sims 4 in months, I've been playing only The Sims 2 since quarantine started because I've been binge-watching your first Pleasantview LP! You rock! 😩🤘❤️

this really is an excellent direction for these characters to go in. it all makes perfect sense for them. i can tell you really care about these characters (far more than ea, lbr) and paid a lot of attention to who they were, which fed into who they became

Aaahhh! I literally just finished cc-ifying the Sims in the original save file, and then here comes this one, which is exactly what I had always hoped S4 would be. Grabbing this one right the heck away, and tomorrow is Saturday, oh whatever shall I do?

I love that you have many different options (Basegame, Basegame + GTW, etc.) depending on the packs that people have, it's very helpful! Thank you for making this and putting all the time into it that you did!!!!

These save files must take so much time to prepare !! Thanks Cindy for this intricate storyline and the detailed descriptions you made for us! Can't wait to play tonight!

Amazing Cindy!! Cant wait to play with the families

I like how you added some sims of your sims 2 playthrough like Debra and Ivan to this

this is amazing!! I’m excited for the next one you’re doing too :) thankssss a lot

You did so much work. Like you spent so much time and it's obvious. It's sad that you're putting in all this effort that should've been there in the first place. Great Job! I love it!

Gosh! This Is so cool Cindy! I'm also trying to make a save file, mostly for myself, and after I discovered your channel I've became so obsessed with The Sims 2, that I had to make a version of the Base game Sims In the sims 4, thank you for your videos and for being so inspiring! Side note! I think Jennifer Burb would be In the Sports career, considering her dream to play soccer In Sims 1 ( just a thought!)

comment; what a labor of love this is cindy! its very clear u love sims 2 and the sims in general and have put a whole lot of care and effort into this storybuilding, i cannot wait to play around with an updated pleasantview

Hi love, ♥ I just found you because of this video and I went right to your first one (The Sims 2: Let's Play Pleasantview) to follow the whole story !!! I have been playing The Sims since The Sims 1 and I have NEVER played this way, now I need to start playing like this... I am following your blog with all the rules and I am fascinated! Thank you for making the game have a hole new gameplay for me. ♥

Only half way through the vid and I am loving it. Cindy you have made me want to play the Sims 4 again. Thank you for all you do ❤️

I’m so glad your mansion opposite the Landgraabs is rotated, I thought I was the only one?!

Wow amazing work! I did the same thing in my game but my sims ended up in very different places. For example Lilith and Derren didn't end up together. Lilith grew out of her goth phase and actually grew up to be very successful. Angela got pregnant before she got the chance to go to college and ended up marrying Dustin and raising 3 kids. They live a modest life. She often envious of her sisters freedom and success. In my file Beau is gay and is married to Derren Dreamer. Also the Goths are no longer in charge of the family fortune. Dina married Mortimor and after his death she and her son inherited everything. Cassandra lives a fairly domestic life with Darren and their kids. She doesn't miss her old Goth life but struggles to balance family life and a career. As Darren was an artist he stayed home and raised the kids. Alex married the Lucy Burb and have a young family.

You did it again! And again, I enjoy your work greatly.

I absolutely love this, it completely blew my mind!!! Thank you so much for making this, you made me want to play again ❤️

Me when this has way more depth and storytelling than sims 4 entirely

14:33 We stan a mature queen.

Wow thanks so much Cindy! As always keep up the fantastic work!

This is such a fantastic save file! I downloaded it about two hours ago and I've spent most of my time so far jazzing up the sims a bit in CAS but the attention to detail in the storytelling side of the save file is absolutely beautiful. I have no words, I just love it so much! Thank you so much for making my Sims 2 stan heart's desire come true! 💜

I’m loving the og pleasantview sims representing

Cindy I loved the save file🌟 and I will love playing with the second generation of Pleasentview made by you😉. I know it's a lot to ask but if you were able to build in this save file, Strangetown in Oasis spring and Veronaville in Windenburg it would be perfect.

This looks really neat. I love that it uses that storyline from your Pleastantview videos, and I'm looking forward to playing this.

oh wow, Cindy. Thank you so, so, so much. I can tell you put so much work into this. It really shows!

There I am 'huh those names sound really familiar' facepalm! So excited to see your original play through sims again! Can't believe it took so long for me to twig.

I can't even imagine how much time this took you!! i've never played the earlier sims games so it never occurred to me that the townies would have lore and backstories.. I always just make my own sims to play with. but now this makes me want to play in your save with all these townies and cause drama 👀

i'm squeeling with joy watching this video, it's absolutely amazing what you did with the sims 4!!!!!! can't wait to play with this, and i hope you also make strangetown in oasis spring

This was so fun to watch! I’m making a personal save file but I’m working with it being maybe 15 years after sims 3. Also using a little artistic license to bring in some characters from different sims games (i decided that Malcolm and Johnny are brothers, but I also gave them a sister Miriam, or Mimi from the Bustin’ Out game) and kinda crafting some story around that. I also gave them families like making the Bachelors for Bella. Still working on it but I really enjoyed seeing your snapshot of 25 years past Sims 2

omg i really want to do something like this for my own game now !!!

Oh man, this makes want to reinstall TS4 just to play this save. If only TS4 wasn't so shallow to begin with since I still only have the base game.

This was so incredible and inspiring. The sims team could NEVER 😅 Thank you for sharing - it must have taken so much time! I love the name Ivan, too!

Ohmygosh I love this so much, such creativity and love for the game you have put in there! I love it

Wow Cindy, you're incredible! You put so much work into making this files. Aren't you tired from that already? 😄 Anyway, thank you so much. I'm still stuck on TS2 and TS3 but maybe I will actually open the TS4 again in this decate.

Never jumped on a world save so fast before. I almost don't want to play it too much for fear of ruining a lovingly crafted masterpiece. :)

This is such a great idea and you executed it so perfectly! I'm looking forward to giving this save file a try. :)

I admit I haven't even watched this yet, but I'm so excited! I knew you were going to create something awesome once you started making save files. I've been wanting something like this, but haven't been impressed with any save files I've found and can't build up the motivation to do it myself. Thank you. I love your content!

1:16 OMG! I loved the story of how they got to Willlow Creek!

Strangtown oasis springs and or strangervill would be awsome. Ps small question if Daniel pleasent is noncommittal wouldn't katlyn have talked him into marrying her?

I LOVE this!!! You come up with such amazing backstories.

Wow! You did such a great job with this save file! I absolutely love it! ♥

ok literally EA "GAME CHANGER", they could never!

No why couldn’t the Sims team do this? Why ruin the lore by making it “an alternative timeline” okay if they were going to do that then give us totally new families then. Thank you so much Cindy. I have your other save file installed right now. I will be playing this one after Snowy escape drops and I’m waiting for the mods to be fixed.

You're so creative! Thanks for all the videos :)

I love all the work you put into this. I cant wait to try out the save in my game💗

Wow, I love this update and edit. You are such a great story teller, and I could see this as being canon~ I also love the homes you renovated, they are so pretty! Thanks for this video // content. Subbed.

Wow a lot of thought and time went into this. Thanks for sharing! *thumbs up* indeed

You are just awesome! I love the sims also, I like your content so much, it is very well thought out, really high quality, fun and enjoyable to watch!

thank you for this total revamp and upgrade cindy💙 i can't imagine the time and effort you put into this! you made me feel excited to play sims 4 and i haven't reacted this way since the day sims 4 came out LOL