I forced this YouTuber to play HEAVIES with me...

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I forced this YouTuber to play HEAVIES with me...

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@HopCatSmash Жыл бұрын

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@saulicereza Жыл бұрын

Absolutely everyone loves heavies, we TOTALLY do and that has nothing to do with the video theme.

@josht3186 Жыл бұрын

How dare you speak about our perfect King in that way. Dedede is perfect in every way

@Arcana_zero_studios Жыл бұрын

Heavies only seem bad due to the stigma of thinking that if someone is slow and easy to hit they're bad. Heavies are great because they can capitalize off it by armoring through hits to deliver huge punishes or utilize having a further reach with strong attacks. Dk V Puff sounds fun until you realize one hit from Dk means puff might just die. And even if they don't it's a huge momentum swing since Dk has more range than piff with his moves. Projectiles are really their only downfall, they grab to counter defensive options like blocks and parries, you can trick the opponent into rolling by making them think you throw out a slow move just to mix them up by attacking where they'll be after the roll, projectiles force you to be evasive unless you have a reflector, and heavies have little to no evasion since they're meant to take hits on the chin.

@fovarberma752 Жыл бұрын

_"Do you wanna win, or do you wanna Down+B"_ (With Bowser) Now I understand the final battle of SMB3.

@anthonylucero6650 Жыл бұрын

Both of You are mooks😒

@pancakeman592 Жыл бұрын

Zack after pressing side-b 27 times: "He's such a spammer!"

@Arronic Жыл бұрын

King of skill mashing intensifies

@bonkeykong858 Жыл бұрын

Hopcat was the one who said that tho

@smoceany9478 Жыл бұрын

@@bonkeykong858 zack said it too

@robertitonicitomip95127 7 ай бұрын

@@Arronic"your such a masher"

@Arronic 7 ай бұрын

@@robertitonicitomip95127 YOU ARE A ROBOT!!!

@missingno_LLC Жыл бұрын

“I love HEAvies” -Zack 3 seconds into the video

@trollwholivesu7258 Жыл бұрын

“I looOOoove the waffles” -cogger

@DAWGIESZ64 Жыл бұрын

Spoilers bro

@SimF1e Жыл бұрын

@@DAWGIESZ64it was 3 seconds bro

@JohnyMeBoi Жыл бұрын

@@DAWGIESZ64your not funny

@UnderTale_Frisk1 Жыл бұрын

@@JohnyMeBoithey are funny. And much funnier than the original comment, which literally just quoted the video without adding anything 💀

@Helios2737 Жыл бұрын

This is as natural a fit for Zach as "I played Smash with Little Z and he took a shot for every stock he takes"

@ericharrison4067 Жыл бұрын

Hopcat: "heavies are bad at a high level" They get online to try and disprove his point

@stormrhys Жыл бұрын

Online high level?

@mylastnamescox Жыл бұрын

So nice of hopcat to collab with a small youtuber

@NightFreeze9128 Жыл бұрын

I don't think 7:22 was an untechable. The launch effects such as the smoke trail are red because K. Rool got launched by player 1, and characters launched by particularly powerful moves have a "meteor entering the atmosphere" effect for the first half of the launch. So, it looked a bit like an untechable because that meteor effect was superimposed by the effect produced when K. Rool hit the underside of the stage, and the tail end of the meteor effect looks similar to the extra red flair added when when a stage impact is untechable. I looked closer, frame by frame, and I'm pretty sure that's what's actually going on there.

@karlson9036 Жыл бұрын

🤓

@Nenekey. Жыл бұрын

🤓

@noawastaken3650 Жыл бұрын

Thanks you for your research, brave solider

@stormrhys Жыл бұрын

Man got called a nerd for this…he did it for us o7 we love ya

@surplus_kato Жыл бұрын

Untechable would've been an actual red splash, the splash was greenish blue still

@jan-seli Жыл бұрын

Down-b into windup his punch is a true combo

@WDinATX Жыл бұрын

Steps when fighting a difficult boss: figure out their attack patterns, avoid their attacks, don’t get hit by their stronger attacks. Steps when fighting a heavy: figure out their braindead options, avoid their attacks, don’t get hit by their stronger attacks. I sense a pattern 🤔

@tylerboelter8431 Жыл бұрын

really like the new style of content hop has been doing recently

@tea2kx Жыл бұрын

Ikr it's really fresh and unique

@poison6084 Жыл бұрын

I hope you're joking

@SonicTheCutehog Жыл бұрын

Ganondorf's problem isn't only being a heavy. His problem is that his moveset doesn't work with the kind of character he is because he is a very slow character that uses a moveset that was designed for a very fast character. That's without mentioning the moveset also being unfaithful to his appearances in his series with a few exceptions like his Side B and Forward Air.

@Aj-if6rj Жыл бұрын

His only canon move is his forward tilt, a move from the Twilight Princess boss fight, which I find hilarious

@Robbie_Haruna Жыл бұрын

@@Aj-if6rj His Side B is based on him choking out one of the sages in Twilight Princess.

@AubergineMans Жыл бұрын

@@Aj-if6rjBest part is that both his canon moves (the kick and flame choke) aren't even canon to his ultimate design.

@Aj-if6rj Жыл бұрын

@@Robbie_Haruna Oh shoot your right

@Aj-if6rj Жыл бұрын

@@AubergineMans What a mess of a character

@bananamotionpictures Жыл бұрын

Little disappointed to not see any Ridley. Even if he's not heavy enough to technically be a super heavy he feels like something of an honorary heavy to me. Still a very fun video regardless!

@johnstarinieri7360 Жыл бұрын

As one of the few Ridley mains it makes me sad how light he actually is. Even Samus is heavier than him :(

@Pigismal Жыл бұрын

@@johnstarinieri7360 one of the least canon weight choices in history, samus is heavy in metroid but not THAT heavy

@zackdanh9352 Жыл бұрын

@@PigismalRidley is also usually like 5x bigger in the Metroid games. If you think about it, Ridley probably isnt that heavy. Most of his size is wing span, and his weight would decrease logarithmically thanks to square cube law. As barely twice Samus's height, I don't think he's heavier than a tall bird lady with a giant suit of armor.

@TabianSSBUYT Жыл бұрын

They DID THE THING WITH THE THUMBNAIL

@MrMelonGuy42 Жыл бұрын

atleast they got marth in elite smash

@danielbrooks9728 Жыл бұрын

So nice to see zack playing his best characters in yet another video

@Gins. Жыл бұрын

11:09 I swear I heard "I know I'm gonna win, Corrin's an immigrant"

@johnstarinieri7360 Жыл бұрын

Zack: “We should give Dedede some throw combos” Me: *flashback to infinite down throw chain grabs in Brawl*

@Strawb_milk5 Жыл бұрын

So heavies are good as long as you are good and your opponent is bad. Got it.

@Supernova4297 Жыл бұрын

And you aren’t Dedede

@Arronic Жыл бұрын

And you don't stand still to get combo by high tier characters like captain falcon or Mario Also Steve Cough

@casual_ssb3282 Жыл бұрын

7:30 “untechable at 50” 1. Not untechable 2. Wasn’t at 50

@10EightyPlays Жыл бұрын

Was untechable, head the red fountain Also it is called, “rounding”

@lazyryan3766 Жыл бұрын

Rounding to the nearest multiple of 50

@JellyBeanz69 Жыл бұрын

🤓

@Baxter_the_Octopus Жыл бұрын

As a Dedede main in elite smash… I think upping the damage threshold for the gordo’s would be great, as well as making the forward smash match the animation better, and having a bit more aerial mobility.

@MetaKnightX6 Жыл бұрын

In my option, for Gordo Toss, they should outright remove the ability for single Gordoes to be reflected by non-reflected attacks, increase their damage output, launch/kill power, shield damage and *possibly* allow a second Gordo to be tossed at the cost of allowing non-reflector moves to reflect them again (with like a 10% damage threshold though).

@armandoreyes1029 Жыл бұрын

That depends on the person's playstyle, it clearly shows how smooth Zach was playing with heavies in contrast with HopCat, Zach has nailed the timings and the movement from the heavies, while HopCat expects a more quick and nimble response. I'm not saying he's bad with heavies, he just needs to get used to it. It's like playing Dr Mario, he's my main but damn he's slow, I usually play fast characters like Pichu or Yoshi when fooling around and they feel so easy, but when I get serious, I choose Dr Mario or Krool, I have to think what I'm doing and be more careful.

@Heartache2491 Жыл бұрын

Mmmm heavies 💖💖💖 The Dedede slander though 😭

@tea2kx Жыл бұрын

Your videos since you 'switched' up your content are really Peak hopcat imo. Not that I don't like the old ones but these just seem to be really thought through and they feel fresh compared to what over gaming channels release at the time.

@trashkhan9710 Жыл бұрын

8:02 ''Free neutral win'' he says, offstage

@astronomical1118 Жыл бұрын

18:20 Do NOT get cheesed

@Arronic Жыл бұрын

No johns

@mikerivera2437 Жыл бұрын

The greninja named brick that 3 stocked himself is just *chef's kiss*

@adailydoseofbuba5470 Жыл бұрын

Would love to see you do the wii fit challenge poppt1 did a while back we’re every time you lose a stock you have to do a certain number of pushups

@extr3mev0id19 Жыл бұрын

The reason heavies are bad at the highest levels of competition is because mistakes are few and far between and you need to capitalize quickly on your opponent's slightest misstep. heavies resist launching more but if you're getting launched then you're losing anyway. if heavies were going to be viable at top competitive levels they would need to hit way harder but then they would dominate casual play even more than they already do.

@TheToonWorkshop Жыл бұрын

“He’s such a spammer!” Zach after his 21st side b:

@spiritbaki108 Жыл бұрын

"I CHALLENGE this NOBODY youtuber to a HEAVIES MATCH" "Hop what the hell u saying u know me since forever"

@blackmambax24x Жыл бұрын

I think Charizard might actually be Little Z's best character. I feel like every time he plays Charizard he goes off

@mrelectrodude9391 Жыл бұрын

I love watching heavy gameplay, I’d love to see more!

@Snivyking Жыл бұрын

square has messed me up so many times. I live in WA so i love seeing all the players i VS in everyday show up in the videos. some how i haven't tho :)

@GeoWolfy Жыл бұрын

Hearing the "counter" from guilty gear strive has made me realise how long i havent heard it for, i have it replaced by the vine boom.

@t4yaressyt765 Жыл бұрын

“Corrins are never good” MKLeo playing Corrin last year : hold my beer

@justinfabela4899 Жыл бұрын

It wasn't because MKLeo's a Corrin player, it was because the Corrin player was MKLeo. Spargo's really good tho.

@JohnyMeBoi Жыл бұрын

@@justinfabela4899nah corrins good

@anti_taaco Жыл бұрын

we all love heavies

@SmashJEFF Жыл бұрын

if you hate heavies, you're just wrong

@ChickenBiscuit123 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@Arronic Жыл бұрын

Heavies are underestimated Np matter how big bulky you are You're super armor will carry you

@JohnyMeBoi Жыл бұрын

@@Arronicheavies that dont have super armour:

@PrettyKoolCrocodile Жыл бұрын

That K. Rool gameplay tho!

@Arronic Жыл бұрын

Now we need a part 2 where you only use lightweights Opposite day I shall say 😑

@mattmalco10 Жыл бұрын

Hopcat : "lets play heavies" Little Z : " I LIKE EM BIIGGG, I LIKE EM PLUMPY"

@TheCatfrost Жыл бұрын

Here comes peter giving fitness tips to betas

@AngelJimenez-cs4yq Жыл бұрын

80 minutes of the chair videos has poisoned my brain into immediately thinking “IMMUNITY” when they’re up 2 stocks 😭

@LunaticThinker Жыл бұрын

"I'm just gonna jump and flare blitz"

@saxeladude Жыл бұрын

8:32 counter must become an underdogs running joke please

@beny8885 Жыл бұрын

Just to let you know, ur my favorite underdog. I legit laugh so much at ur jokes in the underdos vids 😂

@theillusionist1494 9 ай бұрын

I don’t really agree with Hop’s analysis on K Rool, I think the belly armor is both a reasonable way to shore up the traditional heavy weaknesses AND a good way of invoking the underhanded feel K Rool has in his original boss fights. Other than that, Incineroar is the clear standout, as well as the role Charizard plays as a part of Pokémon Trainer. DK would probably be fine if he got some more elaborate throw combos and a barrel replacing his head but side special. Bowser needs to have his recovery improved, balance his onstage game however you want to compensate. That leaves Ganondorf and Dedede, who realistically both need full reworks. Ganondorf more so than Dedede, but they both could use a more extensive look at their movesets.

@umbranoctis4348 Жыл бұрын

The thing I get from that first part with Charizard is, "when in doubt, Flareblitz".

@lewishards5671 Жыл бұрын

YOOOOO my jab 2 into bair up b though

@nuggetkiwi Жыл бұрын

Lord of all Lewis fr

@prism7815 Жыл бұрын

w plays

@da_nong8152 Жыл бұрын

absolutely ballin with the link

@Greg-ix4nu Жыл бұрын

my goat

@saxeladude Жыл бұрын

I had a friend that owned smash ultimate for years and never noticed that they never unlocked dedede

@ryanp.2669 Жыл бұрын

With all the counter sound effects, I'd love to see you try playing a bit of guilty gear strive. Great vid!

@MemeSquidWasTaken Жыл бұрын

"god he's such a spammer" Zack says, literally only using side b and down b the entire match

@voiceofreason2674 Жыл бұрын

DeDeDe is already perfect and doesnt need to be changed at all. He was top tier meta defining at my colleges tournaments and we had some semi pro players who used him. You gotta be WAY more aggressive and throw smashes out otherwise people will be bold enough to combo food you. A few forward smashes and aggressive up b landings will make people respect your killing power and give you space to control the fight with ur gordos

@monky4640 Жыл бұрын

where's the /j??????

@Mr.Quinge_Twilight Жыл бұрын

No Piranah Plant smh

@toryunaminosaki1022 Жыл бұрын

hey now, Inceneroar, Ganon, and Dedede are my fav characters, leave them alone xD

@happymonkeyfish Жыл бұрын

one day, I hope they hop on slippi and just mess around, the online is much better

@SJMan2022 Жыл бұрын

I'll be honest, I've been watching a lot of "early Little Z/Underdogs content" aka pre-covid era videos and I thought this was another one lol. Like I thought it was the video where you played elite smash until you ran into Little Z, take this as a compliment?

@boks02_ Жыл бұрын

It in fact was not untechable at 50, he got the red launch trail not the red tech splash

@gabrielpritchard Жыл бұрын

I usually skip past the Raycon sponsors but the drawing really had me drawn in so I sat through it

@matarryfuller760 Жыл бұрын

"king of skill would like to know your location"

@treverset2004 Жыл бұрын

When in doubt nair it out -based hopcat

@GamesbiteRtDL Жыл бұрын

*Dedede that's the name you should know*

@duffy7993 Жыл бұрын

I need one more hour of this

@plabcentral630 Жыл бұрын

I can’t attack cancel to save my life. Hands too slow.

@DekiVen Жыл бұрын

Bro just assaulted me by saying “Corrins are never good” 😩

@Tee_Wilson Жыл бұрын

And then Little z dies to a smart counter lol karma for talking smack to our main 😂

@DekiVen Жыл бұрын

@@Tee_Wilson TRUE!!!

@mingkey6726 Жыл бұрын

if there's one thing i learned from this video, its that did you know that bowser down b is actually free offstage against hero because the up b will save you every time? you can go for down b on recovering heroes for free because

@surplus_kato Жыл бұрын

Incineroar vs K Rool is insane. I'm an Incineroar player and K Rool gets wrecked. counter the recovery while still on stage for free revenge, his fat ass gets frame trapped and combod real bad and Incineroar hits hard enough to get early stocks on K Rool too

@suvid9490 Жыл бұрын

Does the editor play guilty gear strive? That counter message was crispy

@RotaAbyssian Жыл бұрын

My biggest question at the end of this: Is Ridley not considered a Heavy? Otherwise, did you guys just forget about him?

@lgachaboyyt Жыл бұрын

ridley is a big light character

@AubergineMans Жыл бұрын

Samus is heavier than Ridley

@RotaAbyssian Жыл бұрын

...huh. I don't know why I remember him being heavier. Maybe just him having the same Down Smash as the two newest heavies threw me off.

@AubergineMans Жыл бұрын

@@RotaAbyssian Because he's giant. Guess he has hollow bones just like a bird

@Uggnog Жыл бұрын

"If I were to say something about Incineroar, I would say he's the best designed heavy in Smash." Pokemon fans, get him

@Wakaplayer12 Жыл бұрын

Listening to the raycon ad with my JLab GO Air Pop earbuds

@hunterculpepper1973 Ай бұрын

0:50 bring rock smash back

@popteamepicbest539 Жыл бұрын

Hopcat was the one being forced to play heavies

@tonyhoang987 Жыл бұрын

I guess pt3 of this trilogy is playing heavies against a pro (poppt1)

@williamberry3596 Жыл бұрын

For some reason I thought they were versing each other and then I saw the tag “creature”.

@marcusjohnson8649 Жыл бұрын

I get what he means. Heavy characters' strengths aren't rewarded at high level and their a lot of heavies' weaknesses make them almost unplayable if your opponent studies the game minimally.

@64l14 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering why Kazuya wasn’t included then remembered Ganon didn’t give him the rank of heavy

@AreMine Жыл бұрын

mans been playing ggs i swear

@saxeladude Жыл бұрын

K.rool gameplay player plays with one hand while eating chicken nuggets in the other K.rool eats chicken nuggets to get fatter so his belly armor is stronger

@ro3260 Жыл бұрын

Heavy gaming

@MelodyLumina Жыл бұрын

7:21 not untechable at 50 the k rool is just bad

@dabiskitt Жыл бұрын

I haven’t watched yet but I wonder if there’s a kazuya or piranha plan in this video

@saiyangrayzon Жыл бұрын

Me listening to the raycon ad using my racon earbuds XD

@LuigiLonLon Жыл бұрын

It seems Peter forgot about Brent, huh

@gix9704 Жыл бұрын

The chair's taking over

@Self-InformedProductions Жыл бұрын

for some reason at the start i read heavies as he ve's i dont know why but i did

@CLOUDS-tm2vj Жыл бұрын

I think Zacks right incin is best designed heavy and it's my fav to play and I preform well in tourney with it too even against falcos and bad mus hype comebacks and u draw a crown to watch u play inci it feels amazing