@Oliver Heck You had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

@Oliver Heck have you heard of this thing called a ‘joke’

@Oliver Heck oh fuck why’s the ‘see full message’ button or whatever not showing up LOL

Yurt

@@ladder3257 lol

Seriously tho. I can’t believe he’s not. Lucky guy

Or just vibing to some music

I like how you notice the small little details...

I ski in Northeast and all the places I go a helmet is REQUIRED or you don't get on a lift.

Ski patrol was there pretty fast and had lot's of help. Seemed to be a well organized ski patrol.

Noggin toboggan 👌

helmets dont provide protection from big impacts. the brain gets concussed either way. they are great for lacerations tho.

@@johnd.3936 They wont stop the brain from moving but they will stop your brain getting out of your head. They absolutely do offer protection from big hits. It isn't a get out of jail for free card but at least provides some protection.

@@johnd.3936 not wearing a helmet is what causes people to say things like “helmets don’t provide protection from big impacts”

Just wait till mom and dad get that hospital bill :) Guaranteed at least 6 grand and that is if he was in and out and no overnight.

I literally yelled out loud why aren't they holding c-spine

I'm not even formally trained and my dumb ass knows to support and immobilize the head, neck and spine before trying anything....

Yeah

I know right? They didn’t stabilize his neck or spine before pulling him out. Then he said his back hurt. YIKES!

Thank you. People need to also learn basic first aid if they have these kinds of hobbies. "Does anyone know How to call rescue"? Never good to hear that if you're the victim. I'm amazed at how medical care and awareness has gone way down in America.

They look less « cool » with a helmet

Two days ago, I had soft powder in the morning that froze mid afternoon. Couldn’t tell you how, but wiped out at high speeds and smashed my head, tunnel vision, ears ringing etc, don’t even want to imagine what would’ve happened if I wasn’t wearing my helmet

@@firsfnamelastname8490 heard having a brain injury is super cool looking. Even better heard dieing from a head injury is the coolest look! Lol

@@tybauer1108 glad you're OK. if you crashed that hard in a helmet may need to get a new helmet. Most helmets are good for one hard impact the the protective material is compromised.

Saved me today at bigwhite, caught nasty heel edge straight onto the back of my head, got up and rode away because of my helmet

lmaoo

I wish that would happen to me

XD BRO THIS IS INE OF THE BEST COMMENTS IVE SEEN ON YT LOLLL

@@kylenkoehn1431r u ok?

broke my wrist skiing to lemon demon 8th wonder and i BEGGED my mother to take my headphones out

Just taking a nap, no problem.

It's important to ask in CPR because for example drunk people can attack

He was fine. He’s a friend of mine irl. He was smokin some bud in the woods before going back down and he hadn’t smoked bud in a year

@@ieatslag5947 wait what 😂😂😂😂

@@portlandexotics4633 we were smoking on a blunt in the woods so the ski patrol wouldn’t see us. When the bud hit I was ready to shred so I went down and he said he would come right after when he finished the blunt. But then he ended up passing out and fell asleep. So that’s what you’re seeing, my homie asleep in the trees

That sounds awful! This year after a large snowfall I went skiing and I leaned too far forward and my skis hooked. I flew 20ft, landed on my face, scorpioned and then flipped. It could’ve been a lot worse than some pulled muscles if I hadn’t been wearing a helmet

@@SoOverBored crazy how dangerous it can get in an instant. You also never know how hard solid ice is until you hit 100% ice. You can literally feel how thick the ice is on impact, pretty crazy

Stop falling on your head!

I did they same thing. My helmet didn't crack but I bet it kept my skull from cracking or a dozen staples across the back of my head. Guaranteed it saved me big time.

@@Kevinmac1120 ive been lucky with falling on soft slopes. i rarely push my limits anymore though. i want my knees to last lol. always a helmet on icy days though

Exactly this

I know people are seriously dumb. He was probably hearing the whole time.

They'd rather just stare at him while saying "hey bro" to each other numerous times.

Breathes on unconscious guy, severs spine 😲 Call ems! 😜

A bunch of asshole. And filming the guy like he ‘s a part of the holiday. Fuck.

Exactly!

Had a student at high school, I was librarian, head was in a brace connected to his shoulders. Could not move his head to see something had to move his whole body. Yeah, he'd broken his neck somehow, and yes, he made a complete recovery. But man, he was a tall kid and looked like Frankenstein's monster coming down the halls! (Good guy, had a sense of humor about it.)

That's an amazing story! Thank God they knew what they were doing!! Glad to hear you're on the mend!!

Just be weary when not letting people move, don't try to hold them down. You may well know, but someone might get the wrong idea from the way its worded and to to hold someone down.

I could be paralyzed from the neck down right now*. Almost impossible to know if it would have caused it.

Many ski patrols dont have the training or equipment thats nessesary

Why don't you go join them Mister KZfaq medic man?

@@oakenmind I am a medic and he is right, idiot.

The whole event was a shit show! I am so appalled at how this was handled from start to finish!!! Then put in the internet for “a poor college student” to get money! FFS disguising!! This needs to be removed off the internet. I would be suing if I was this guy.

@@oakenmind I'm not a medic and I know he's right. Why don't you go appoint some KZfaq medic men KZfaq administrator.

Someone took his pulse and said he was breathing but unconscious

For reals all these people were so slow to react

They probably didn’t know, they’re just passing skiers. They got ski patrol, and that’s sometimes all they know to do at the time.

The lack of basic first-aid knowledge is scary af... even if you don't know how to check ABCs, immediately go over to the guy and see if he responds.

@@Edaph1c it really is scary, thats why First aid should be taught in all schools. You never know when you might need it

Hi, wilderness first responder here: normally someone is unlikely to have a spinal injury worsened by a roll. It's crucial to get them to advanced care asap and they need to be moved in order for that to happen. They did it correctly

@@understandthisnow thank you

My 1st thought: where's the frickin c-collar!

@@jfox8531 I don’t think they use c Collars anymore

See, there’s no way of telling if he didn’t have a back injury.

Yes. Impressed me, first sticks higher up, then skis "x'ed".

I live in a ski resort and this is just a reflex to me and probably anyone that skis frequently when they see someone injured

That's universal snow sign for frist aud!!

Fr, this guy knew what he was doing. Especially after a blind crest like that.

When I learned to ski no-one wore helmets! I can’t believe it now W

Yes this,or have the number to Ski Patrol on your phone (Some mountains it on the website). As a Ski Instructor at a small hill i have never had to call ski patrol before thankfully

Or just call 911 or the resort phone they can call ski patrol

Really?! How about checking to see if he needs CPR?

@@muprock You should check his pulse but he was breathing because he was snoaring. If the patient doesn't have a pulse that is when you perform cpr

patrollers had special training for those situations, we must get them asap, u will waste lot of time calling 911 or waiting for a patroller to luckily pass around

Sure is. I found an older woman dead on a sand dune in the middle of a snow storm about 1pm. Just sitting up frozen on the trail mouth wide open eyes shut. And I was just thinking it was a good spot to eat my lunch on my way back to work. Thought I'd check out the waves/Beach. Wrong.

@@TylerMcKinney yoo is this forreal?

Jeez

@Yesso I'm a year late but yeah it's real, I was there

@@dELTA13579111315 Me too.

Quite common to X a run or a feature when someone is hurt, to stop people jumping into them.

:)

Who would steal a K2 snowboard? If it was a lib or an arbor that’s a different story.

@@MR1977. my k2 is perfect bro

@@ikutiap5923 I’m a purist I don’t like ski companies due to the bigotry our sport suffered in its infancy.

Let him try to explain that to St Peter There will be no snowboarding in Hell

It’s trauma, you work with what you got. Transport is the best medicine they have on the slope

Ski patrol are morons. Usually only 1/5 has any real medical experience because it’s very easy to get pointless certifications. Dude was breathing and conscious. There’s no reason to rush moving him so quickly. The first responder starts moving him before anyone else is there. His job is to keep the person still and calm while determining the severity of their injuries. Instead he start wiggling the victim around.

@@FumblsTheSniper Ski Patrollers are Not morons if trained properly, which apparently this patroller is NOT!

@@FumblsTheSniper Yeah EMT here, after assessing ABCs the patient seemed stable from this video. No need to hurry with the extrication and transport. I cringed a little when they rolled him onto the litter with no c spine control.

@@Jh0ac I just did lifeguard certification a couple weekends back, and we were trained to move potential spinal injury victims wayyy slower than that, even in deep water!

especially while almost upside down, all the blood rushed to his head

and did you hear him say he is "snoring" , that means he didn't have a good airway.

Well, may have been the best option if he had a fractured spinal cord or back injuries/head injuries. People should not be lifted out of cars for this reason

Ya doing nothing really helps

@@vancouver4sure It is not doing nothing. It is the correct thing to do to prevent possible further head/neck/spine injury.

But.. NO NECK BRACE ! THEIR FIRED!! SKI RESORT.. CLOSED INDEFINITELY !! cuz it has too pay the lawsuit they lost. Inadequate training??

Look...the fact that the patient complained of back pain enough that they were using a backboard says something. The fact that they dumped the patient off of the backboard because they forgot to strap him down says something else. Watch the video again and tell me that these guys know what they are doing. They had a hard time figuring out how to strap him down AFTER they dumped him on the ground.

I just got my EMT license in December. I was told multiple times in training that a lot of protocols are changing to no longer requiring c-collars or backboards.

dude he literally fell off the backboard because they were so shit. Don't try to defend them.

@@lindsaypark7596 that's dumb on any sport related accident. so no.

My sister's sentiment as well Wear a helmet being said on video after a crash into a snow mound

Yeah, LAME as hell !! Plus.. NO NECK BRACE!! LAWSUIT !

@@cowboykelly6590 you can't sue them you ski at your own risk

L: Time isn't everything if you are not equipped to do something.

What would they do though? They cant move him anyways because of nexk and back injuries

@@Lipsymipsytipsy ABCC Airway Breathing Circulation C- Spine

jammin

AAAHHHHH NOOO

That arent airpods, but if he had, he might loose one

@@samuelxd2139 i know

I’ve seen better days 🎶🎶🎶

Understatement of the year.

CDP-choline or GPC-choline help restore brain from injuries/concussions. Not immediately, but over several months-years. I've known people using it to recover from concussions. Or hyperbaric oxygen chambers. All professional footballers/sportsmen use them.

@@jklfds85 Can they do anything for a stuck Caps-lock tho?

Guss what going on?😂 had a good laugh too

Not funny

I think I missed the joke or sumn

Because it is like a really bad pun, sounding like "guess whats going on"

@@fabianjackson6977 Wait that is actually kind funny lmaoo

imagine dying because someone tried to move you...

@Montana Weatherby saw a work place injury accident. The man fell off a ladder about 3 stories up. Landed head first and lived. His coworkers ran over and in their panic picked him up and he died instantly. His neck was broken but aligned and when they picked him up the fracture moved severing his spinal cord.

@@lindanwfirefighter4973 Lucky to be alive. A friend of mine works as a first responder and he told me this story. Car crash scene: a dad with his daughter The impact was pretty violent, the dad was fine and he managed to make the daughter walk out of the car. As first responders arrived (my friend including) they told him that they needed to take her daughter to the hospital to make sure she was fine. Her dad repeatedly refused since "she was walking, therefore she was totally fine". Long story short, as her dad kept denying the first responders to take his daughter for further medical inspection, there was nothing that they could legally do to take her into custody, so they let both her and her dad go. In the very same moment the girl tried to fasten her seatbelt, her neck cracked and she dropped dead. That is all because her dad was being an ignorant and ignoring medics' advice She could have been alive now but stupidity won

@@s1mo True. My uncle helped a guy out of a crashed car and called an ambulance. The guy was arguing with the ambulance crew but he did finally get in the ambulance. Later my uncle rang the hospital on call to ask how the man was doing. The man had passed. His spleen was ruptured in the crash. He had no way of knowing the risks and felt he was going to be all right. Always respect the crew - they don't want to scare you but so much can go wrong.

So do I in this particular case they didn’t do the best job ever but yeah I ski a lot and they’re just absolute legends !!!

KZfaq's algorithm is broken.

it is just being reccommended now

yeah why?

@@TheBeast-tn6pq ask youtube

#pandemic

most people don't were helments especialy adults but i am with you on this one

@@donnahindall118 no most people do, every day on the mountain I probably see 2-3 people without helmets compared to hundreds with helmets. Never seen someone at the park without a helmet

@@meme_enthusiast3021 unfortunately it really depends on the mountain.

@@oak8728 no it doesn’t depend on the mountain. I ride Breckenridge every weekend and always 1-2 dumbasses without helmets. Everyone I see usually wears a helmet for warmth and protection.

@@ponderosacal1218 “it doesn’t depend on the mountain... here’s an anecdote from my mountain” At my local mountain it’s 50/50, every week

Crazy as it might be, interfering in any way with an unconscious person in a situation like this is actually the stupidest thing you can do. If they had rushed down and shaken him or climbed on him or anything he could have potentially been killed.

@@evankrueger7321 no shaking neccessary just hey are you OK?

They literally did though?

@@Happydays77231 they called out to him, no response. That’s the end of what they needed to do.

Not everyone can think with a clear head in unexpected situations.. they stopped and called for help, lets focus on the positive.

They can't touch him. It could paralyze him if they move him slightly. They 100% had to wait for paramedics.

@@courtnayhayhayyy nonsense. At least step out of your skies, go there and check if he is breathing.

The dude with the camera is worthless, I wouldn't want my life in his hands.

@@greatalaska6429 Good thing his life wasn't in his hands, but he did call ski patrol. So good on him

Yeah. He never said a thing to calm him down. Just stupid questions. What a dude...... really braindead

He was unconscious

@@greatalaska6429 In a world where you could be sued, it's ultimately best to let the FA professionals do their thing when you know they're coming. Especially true since the guy filming didn't see the accident

@severus What do you think they should have done? They were waiting for ski patrol and not risking any further injuries.

@@colettesantoro6233 you‘re definitely right about not moving him, because of further injuries. However you should always check if a person is breathing and if you can check their heart rate and their pupils. If they are not breathing move the person straight away, risking injuries is not your worst problem then. If they are conscious stay with them and talk to them. :) Skiing Instructor 101 😂

ABC = airway, breathing, circulation. Basic first aid ~

@@spinsterjones4987 when I google that I only get results from australia. The american red cross does not mention it. But yes as a WFR we always check 1) is the scene safe, 2) initial 2-second assessment of what happened, 3) put on PPE, 4) check for other patients, 5) begin to assess ABCDEX

No kidding hey? I'm at 1:48 and they are all just standing, waiting for ski patrol. People need to know basic first aid.

Never board alone

The bystander effect. One time i saw a guy fall flat on his back on a bigjump in the bottom of a slope and was knocked unconscious while i was standing in line for tickets 100-200 meters further down. We figured everyone has seen this and the employes of the resort will take care of it. But after like a minute with no one doing anything i pushed my way trough the line and asked the girl behind the counter if they where going to do something? Then she radioed someone and they sent a snowmobile up to check him out (still unconscious laying on the landing).

@@titter3648 fawk sakes man!! :/

Maybe they just didn't see him. It's damn a hill. People always assume no one helps other people. In most cases they do.

I thought they taught that in “Skiing 101.”

@@margaretmathis4775 you‘d think so. But many ski learners somehow skip that part it seems. Or forget about it again.

When I broke my face at keystone the skis the ski patrol put up to warn people to go around fell down and hit me in the head. I think it's just a ski patrol thing...

Rolled right off!! 🤭 sounded like his head smacked the skis

I don't think the point was to gain "credit" at all... It's just a video... In my opinion it's educational to show people what could happen... To remind folks both to make safer choices and also to be aware of your surroundings and look out for others who might be in danger!

@@JennBirch That's a big assumption! I like your charisma!

Exactly, wtf??!

LOL, this made me laugh. Seriously though, I've never seen an accident scene where nobody approaches the person down to even see if they're breathing. So bizarre.

same thought... claiming his back hurts and they just yank him out of there...

Yes.

Sounds like my grandpa.

2:27 these arent airpods

@@samuelxd2139 thanks for fact checking my joke I really appreciate it

People in denial..they taking life for a granted and think that nothing and never will happen to them..and then next thing you know..accident..instant trauma..they are dead and no longer around us..😣😪

No kidding - I woke up hugging a tree there once, lost the last few seconds of how I got there. I swear the trees there are just a few inches too close together! and for sure: wear a helmet!

@@linolinco wear a back protector too. Its not fun to sit in a wheelchair for the rest of your life

He didn't witness it so it's probably best he didn't try helping him incase he caused anything worse. If he already called ski patrol to help then it's no far from the best he could have done for the circumstances

Yeah, no. Unless your actually trained(wfa, emt, rn) please just ask "you ok, bro", call ski patrol, and leave me in place.

@@BCcherokee No anything is better than doing nothing. Everyone should know first aid, and everyone should assist someone in need. In this case it was a good decision to wait for the ski patrol because he was breathing, ski patrol was close by, and moving him could worsen any possible neck and back injury (but seeing how badly the ski patrol did with no neck brace and handling him like that it would no have made a difference). But if someone is not breathing, or has some serious bleeding going on you start first aid no matter if you are worried about neck and back injury's. Its a reason why it is called FIRST aid.

@@titter3648 Anything is NOT better than nothing, unless you are trained. He saw that he was breathing and got ski patrol there. I wouldn’t want some random person saying, um, let’s do just do anything. It’s not that easy to maneuver in ski boots on the side of a steep hill. I would have easily slid right into him if I tried to move too fast.

So what do you do?

🌲

How long ago?

@@jjedwards8666she passed away in 2009.

Like michael schumacher, he is completely disabeled😢

Omg

Important to note that she fell during a ski lesson on a small slope and no one even realized she had hurt herself. She was walking and talking normally and the concussion took about an hour to kick in before anyone realized how badly she was hurt. You can Google the news stories. It's actually a really strong case for wearing a helmet no matter what

When someone’s got a potential head or neck Injury, you don’t touch them

@@pizzadog9580 You definitely carry out CPR! What ridiculous nonsense. Do some research and do not post unhelpful, dangerous comments.

@@jg2060 how exactly would you do CPR on a person wedged in the trees on his side, pray tell? Better to wait for ski patrol.

@@liz9843 You DON’T, you absolute cretin. If in ANY situation you find somebody who is not responding then you ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS CHECK IF THEY ARE BREATHING. Is their airway clear? If they are not breathing then you FUCKING MOVE THEM into a position where you can start CPR. It does not matter if you’re worried they have spinal injuries because THEY ARE FUNCTIONALLY DEAD and it is on you to keep their heart beating and oxygen circulating around their body until help arrives.

Checking the pulse isn’t a priority. Most untrained people (and many trained) can’t find a pulse in the field anyway. What you need to check is: IS THE CASUALTY BREATHING? If they’re not breathing - or doing agonal breathing (pls google what that sounds like) - then you need to call for help and start CPR immediately.

Yea, my man is getting tons of praise for doing absolutely nothing.

If someone has a possible neck injury you shouldn't move them. What could I do if I found someone in this situation to help without moving them? Genuinely curious.

Jon Davis check their breathing to make sure they aren’t choking on their tongue or blood.

@@HaloDude557 Good idea. Breathing definitely takes priority. Should probably also take a pulse and start cpr if there is none.

@@j0ndav1s CPR is also a good idea but I'm not an expert to recommend it. I don't know what to do if they have broken ribs, punctured lungs, or need to be moved to start CPR.

Facts

so true he was lying there from last winter

So all dummies start wear helmet...to save his brain and hospital bill...

So people start wear helmet....😣😳😒

@@melenamayson8275 hey baby

They do this in Europe as well if they don't have a snowmobile

We have both, but the "cages" Are better here, it depends on lots of conditions: weather, how far it's from hospital/mountain rescue hut/clinic, how fatal is the injury, if it's really bad the helicopter is called or the patient is moved to the helipad and what vehicles are available. In our mountains we have snowmobiles, something that's similar to snowcad or tracked quad bike. Also as I said we have these cages that are better constructed and operated by 2 or 4 people.

It looks secure enough - if they had to use a helicopter to airlift him out, the backboard needs to be light.

Not every patrol has the money for snowmobiles.

You don't look cooler without a helmet, you look like an idiot.

Dont think it looks cool to have a broken head😀

Exactly my thoughts as to the mystery to why standbyers are the most useless things in critical situations. It’s like they think there is some rules from the government that prevents them from touching someone injured or some shyt. Fkn morons

@@mrultima You have this kind of laws in some countries. If you are helping someone but he dies in your hand, you will be responsible and will have to face judges. And it's exactly like a moto or car crash, it's way better to wait for pros, because if you move a person, you can just increase the damage by making a single wrong move. The only thing you have to do is checking breath to be honest. (English isn't my first language, but I think you have the idea ! : )

The whole event was a shit show! I am so appalled at how this was handled from start to finish!!! Then put in the internet for “a poor college student” to get money! FFS disguising!! This needs to be removed off the internet. I would be suing if I was this guy.

I don't hit the slopes. But I'm still haunted by an old news story. A young gal had gone missing on a perfect powder day. They eventually found her upside down in a tree well. I believe that she was hanging by her boot/board bindings. It was devastating. Please, never go alone. And if you happen to notice that a jacket color off in the distance is no longer there, please stop and check. It could save a life.

Snoring means that his airway was obstructed thats all. Its actaully a good thing because its a sign hes getting air.

@@timc5301 Umm, pretty sure an obstruction to the airway is a bad sign. If you're not getting sufficient air flow, you can suffocate.

@@KathyHoismygovtnm its better to have some air then no air lol if he wasnt snoring then you wouldnt know if he was getting oxygen at all. Are you going to freak out if you hear someone snoring in bed and shake them awake because there not getting "sufficent oxygen" no. The only way to know if someone is getting sufficent oxygen is via pulse ox or the color of there lips/skin.

Normal snoring is not something to worry about but this man just had a head injury. When has sustained a head injury and you can hear them snoring, traditional first aid says you're supposed to move his head or body into a position in which his airway is no longer obstructed. You shouldn't just dismiss his injury as, "He's fine since you can hear him breathing." He could end up with severe brain injury or permanently comatose. If you're saying that snoring is a good sign because that means he's alive, then yes of course it is a good thing to know that he is alive. Yes, some air is better than no air but snoring itself is not a good sign after a head injury, especially if it is loud snoring. Snoring happens when there is an obstruction to the airway, meaning that there is a chance that not enough oxygen is reaching his brain. Snoring could be a sign of imminent danger to life or quality of life. A GOOD sign would be breathing with no obstruction, which you can check by seeing seeing if his chest is rising and falling or by putting a piece of glass, like their goggles, under his nose. Breathing IS a good sign, but not snoring.

I lived in Breckenridge for many years. The skiing draws a lot of unskilled labor to Summit County in the winter and they work part time with minimal qualifications at the seasonal jobs like ski patrol. When they are at work their minds are thinking about the next time they get to hit the slopes on their own terms.

​@@BlLL_LUMBERGHthat works for a lot of mountian jobs except for ski patrol, which generally has a emt equipment or higher certification requirements. Especially at Breckenridge since they have a full Union patrol calling them part time is hard lol. It is hard to say weather it is required or not here, there where a lot of cuts. Most recent data suggests that that collaring and back boarding can cause more harm than good. Although from what i understand ski patrol is/was on the conservative side of things.

Rule goes if you find some like this unless you have medical training and are certified you don’t touch him

@@cold758 yup If he broke a rib or something, moving him could've hurt him more

If hes snoring hes breathing right?

@@kathrynaguenza4508 snoring can be associated with breathing but agonal breathing sounds like snoring and if it is agonal then you have a serious problem on your hands and you dont have much time and every second counts.

@@cold758 the least you have to do is to check whether he is breathing or not. And you need to relay that to the emergency dispatcher as he is the one deciding whether to just send out the paramedics or to send out an emergency doctor as well. And for that you don't even have to touch the patient!

He ended up dying