That's poetry

Poetic

wait i didn't realise that that's so cool

In Christianity the snake is devil also the devil treak eve to eat the apple and eve give it to Adam

Which is even funnier considering Adam was the one that caused this.

Just a bit of statistics I'm sure Sera is probably thinking of: there have been about 11-16 billion humans total ever. -7 billion currently alive we have 4-9 billion total souls. Presuming 50/50 we have 2-4.5 billion sinners, of which there are currently only a little less than 2-3 million currently in hell meaning that the exterminations eliminated anywhere from 1.99-4.49 billion sinners. Even if 0.01 could have been redeemed that means Sera would be responsible for ~20,000,000-50,000,000 innocent souls being condemned to oblivion. And those are lowball numbers. If more people were sent to hell than heaven over time, or if the percentage of redeemable sinners is higher the numbers could reach the billions. All because she let Adam convince her to let him "eliminate the threat". The threat of beings, who until the death of a single exorcist were thought to not be able to even harm angels, rising up to attack heaven. Not looking good for Sera. Wonder if she will try to suppress this info like she did the existence of the exterminators to try to maintain power, and use the death of Adam to cause a full blown holy war to try to prevent the news of her failures from leading to her own fall.

What happens when Heaven gets overpopulated? Has Charlie thought of that?

I mean eventually that would naturally be bound to happen regardless. Also the show seems to not mention that hevean even could get overpopulated, and remember sinners are only in one specific part of the pride ring, there is much more space then the sinners are allowed to go, and there should be around the same or more more space in heaven.@@owenbridgers

​@@billykann7725i mean I doubt any of them are innocent lol

Probably not, because Heaven is supposed to be an absolute paradise where *everything* is going great. There's most likely some kind of system in place, whether it's a higher power (God or someone similar) or an innate quality of Heaven itself, that will cause the realm to change in order to accommodate as many people as it needs to. The "Hell is overpopulated" bit doesn't even seem to mean "there are more souls here than what we have room for" anymore, honestly. At this point their concerns over "overpopulation" seem to be more about the potential for Hell to rise up and overthrow Heaven if their population gets too high.

My theory is that souls actually couldn't be redeemed until a sufficiently powerful heavenly being (like the Seraphim or heh Adam) actually spelled out the requirements to get in and suddenly they could be because the rules changed. may or may not be true but I would find it to be hilarious that the one being that thought no soul could be redeemed was the one to set the stage for redemption

​​@@grift98 yup! I agree there were never rules for dead sinners to get into heaven just rules for living humans. Now that there are "official" rules for sinners they can! But id also like to add to that theory that angle or anyone whos sold their soul to an overloard cant because, well, their soul isnt theirs to be redeemed.

​@@grift98you mean, if adam said "Lol buy me a coffee" that would have counted? ;)

@@p3chv0gel22 it would've been funny if that was true

Well he did technically steal a kiss from Cherry before he died 😂 but yes he made it to heaven

If you look at the rebuilt hotel, Alastor has a radio broadcast studio on the upper right side (built before he reappeared, in fact). The window closest to the studio is destroyed. On the opposite side of the hotel is an apple shaped feature, with all the nearby windows intact. It is either meant to be guest quarters when Lucifer visits, or more likely - Charlie's rooms. Lucifer clearly wasn't happy to be asked to build the studio portion of the hotel, which could explain the broken window and why Charlie's rooms are placed as far away from Alastor's personal quarters as possible.

You could also see husk disappointment when alastor showed up😂

​@@csr_marcnelsonbrequillo6466 You just KNOW he was hoping dude was gone for good

​@@strawberryhellcat4738Why do they put this many details in the subtext god damn

@@Rararaahahromaromamagagaoolala Ikr? I've also yet to see anyone mention one part of Lucifer's hyper-frantic overreaction during his introduction to Vaggie as Charlie's girlfriend. Not knowing Alastor is aro/ace (and this is before the "Dad-off"), Lucifer was so overjoyed to see that his daughter had a buffer against the smooth-talking "strawberry pimp" that when he hugged Vaggie excitedly, he actually called her "Maggie".

Yeah exactly. We know he fundementally is evil and just on the main characters side, but not why. We dont know his causes, his alterior motives, we know so little about him and his moral grey area! That mystery oh boy! Its a recipe for interest.

Oh for sure~ He's probably like the final boss~

@@RisaPlayssame he’s giving massive final boss energy

​@@Aqua1515I mean if Charlie's plan works, she would effectively become the broker of the only way out of hell. Being a friend of the person who not only is in charge of hell but has a way out would be an extremely lucrative position. Add in a place full of desperate people willing to do anything to be free(including make deals) and a home base Lucifer himself is willing to defend from which to spread your influence under the guise of getting the word out. Honestly short of a button that tortures Vox I cannot think of a situation Alistair would like more.

I have this theory that he was more or less tricked/forced into making a deal with Lilith, and he showed up at the hotel partly because he was hoping Charlie would somehow be able to get him out of it. So far in both series (Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss), we haven’t seen a single sinner bound to a hellborn at the bottom of the social hierarchy such as hellhounds or imps, which leads me to believe that, unless the sinner WANTS to be tied to a weaker/socially lower demon, they can’t be bound by someone weaker than them. If that is the case, whoever bound Alastair wound have to have been really powerful - like, Goetia level or higher. And since I doubt Spindlehorse studios would just hand over Helluva Boss to Amazon, we’re mostly left with just the very top of Hell’s social pyramid: Lucifer, Lilith, and Charlie.

Be funny if he respawns in hell.

I kinda feel a little bad for dick master Adam too.

Eh, Adam can't change cause he'll never want to. All worlds are better now that he's gone.

I mean...if Pentious died and went to heaven despite being dead already.....It's possible Adam could be condemned to hell for his behaviours.

Vivien said that whoever dies, and it's obvious, and Serp Pentius died an obvious death, so Adam is in Hell now and Charlie will be set the goal of making a good man out of this guy. After all, that's the point of the whole series.

Pretty sure Viv said she was Japanese too.

@@felixhenson9926 Japanese American nissei.

That's Kiki, she's basically like the avatar of the hotel itself.

Dad liked makings cool functions for Charlie's stuff

@@RiverCrystal And the Avatar of a Hotel could be nothing more fitting than a Cat that can turn into a Key. Keys are the Symbol of Hoteliers, you'll notice the symbol of Crossed Keys on the Collars of Concierges at fancy Hotels.

well lucifer said keekee in ep 5​@@RiverCrystal

Isn't she literally the key to Charlie's diary turned alive by Lucifer? Name isn't really subtle either ;)

I completely forgot about that line... Ohhhh mmyyyy

Probably middle of 2025 if i had to guess

@@evilness3404 Man I hope early 2025 if I am around by then.

@@minuette1752sorry I don’t know who you are but I would still like to see you around then and many years after

Val really thought “holy shit I dodged a bullet that day”

Oooh, when? I'd like to see :)

@WybieLoonArts In episode 6, Cherri took Angel and the rest of the Hotel crew to a club for some R&R while Charlie and Vaggie went to Heaven to try and convince them a soul could be redeemed.

@@gundamheavyarms4879 yeah, Angel stopped nifty from getting close to Valentino and when he noticed him he told Valentino twice to FUCK OFF. After which Valentino pulled his I OWN YOU SHIT. But Angel made it clear that he owns him in the studio and val didn’t like that so he slapped him and walked away. After which nifty managed to creep up on val and rip a part of his fur. It was beautiful

@@gundamheavyarms4879 Ooooh, right! I thought it was a moment in this episode that I missed 😀

rip at least hes in a better place

Same lol

Don't worry, you're not the only one.

I did too when I saw the banner and Charlie started singing 😭

That would be badass!

Re Pentious.

🤣

Do NOT disrespect Team Rocket like that

I love that you can hear his "Spider Polka" theme song when rescuing the egg boi

@@RiverCrystal Yes! It's a lovely callback to when he and Cherri were fighting Pentious in the pilot. Spider polka is best polka.

That little smile of Carmilla's in response to that cute is one of my favourite parts of this episode. That and "Your first wife didn't seem to hate what i had to offer. Or the second, bow chicka wow wow" 💖😂

Alastor keeps us guessing.. I see only 2 ways of him getting somewhere - either he's fake about anything ivolving his bonds and the hotel and becomes the final villain or something or.. he is warming up to them and he's scared to admit it, going back and forth before he finally gives in in some form of redemption. I'm here for both options.

@@Daesma999 I'd have to say that the way I see it is that Alastor has been evil and is heading back there. I think his scene at the end at least kind of tells us so. There may have been a path for him to redemption if he had been given time to get more attached to the rest of the Hazbin crew but his brush with a second death has him returning to his old ways, desperately trying to find a way out of whatever deal made him disappear seven years ago. Speaking of I suspect it has something to do with Lillith since she also hasn't seen Charlie in seven years according to the first episode.

I heard he's doing Spamalot on Broadway now with James Monroe Iglehart (Ozzie and Vortex from HB, Zestial from HH, and original Genie in Broadway's Aladdin), which would be epic to see!

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Patron saint of the redeemed maybe?

@@paganrose1551 It'd be hilarious if at some point he said "Bye, Felicia" because he said farewell to Hell :D

Years* ago

@@bluegallade True, true, I've corrected it :)

I mean, Angel dust literally said it before

OMG FR. Vox in that episode was hilarious with his reactions, and I feel like I am the only person on this earth that cried about Adam's death, and how Lute reacted, and how he smiled at her. I cried way to hard for that, and it hurt so much XD

​Adam is a dick, but so is everyone in this show(except for Charlie). Personally, I hope he's somehow reborn in hell, and forced to seek redemption in order to become an angel again. ​@@The_Iron_Guardian

I'm pretty sure he even just found Look my way on his own cause he was looking for music videos to watch. And that of course lead to the arrival of fans reccomending Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel. And heck we're just glad there's another person out here who have found out about this and enjoyed it

Don't worry, your english is pretty good!!! And Yes, this reactions are very entertaining to watch. Good luck learning english!!!

Honestly it would’ve been nice to see her fight more BUT considering her personality I’m not surprised she had difficulty because it’s not in her nature to be violent or to develop her skills in violence

He really does right?

Judging by the way they were full on making out at the end of the episode in the last song I doubt that 😂

@@bluesapphireymcathat’s later in time, after the hotel is rebuilt.

The pilot of Hazbin isn't really canon anymore either tbh. The only thing you can take from it is the general series of events. In the pilot, C.Carmine is hanging out with Zestiel with Lucifer during the extermination, which we know isn't canon anymore because Carmine was with her daughters during it.

@@evilness3404 I don't know about that. Both could have happened at different times of the extermination.

@@evilness3404 I'm not sure about that. The Extermination was a yearly thing and Charlie has been trying to get the Hotel up and running for a few years. It could have been two different extermination days.

@paganrose1551 that extermination is also when the pilot takes place, and the show begins 1 week after the pilot

@@paganrose1551 Not years. One week.

Something tells me that Alastor is going to do some bad shit in the future

Yeah, depending on how many seasons the show is allowed to get, I could see him literally ending up as the final villain in the end.

Don’t quote me on it but I read somewhere that when finding funding for the show one of the requirements they wanted was 2 seasons no matter what, Netflix refused that but Amazon didn’t. Also with how popular it seems to be, i don’t see any real reason we won’t get a second season. If Alastor isn’t the “final boss” I will be upset a bit.

@@demondragonshi5161 Oh yeah, the second season already is confirmed - in the 1st season's trailer if I remember correctly. I do think it should take a bit longer than that to establish Alastor as the final boss, which is why I referred to additional seasons in multiples.

I just have a bad feeling about alastor because that’s not even his full power but because of that deal he made prevents him from using his full power and so whoever he made a deal with had to be more powerful then him so I have a bad feeling about alastor in future seasons

It actually stays the same size lucifers just that teeny tiny /j

I mean, he's not any deader than before

@@evobrand1210 you've got no respect for sir Pentious!!!!

I wonder who the Dealer is🤔

Me too, I want to see alastor fullpower!!!

Well, they really did move up the extermination just Because they wanted too and they were pissed, i don't think Adam and Lute were above "forgetting" that pardon

I mean, I assume that goes away when you're very publicly and intentionally attacking the Angels and defending the Sinners.

Yeah, and considering Adam was trying to kill both Lucifer and Charlie. Who are not sinners. I'm fairly certain that had Adam survived and gone back to heaven, he'd have been in deep shit with the seraphims.

@@Akira-Touzen they moved up the extermination because they discovered that one of the exorcists had been killed. Something that has never happened before. But also cause Adam is a toxic narcissist who wants to do whatever he wants.

That went out the window when she put together an army to fight them and even participated in the fighting.

Yeah I had said elsewhere that I feel his sacrifice could have been different. Like he does get the shot off, not doing much to Adam, who then hits the blimp, as it starts going down he gets thrown out and Adam stabs him down into the ground, kind of like Lute and Razzle/Dazzle (whichever one she killed). It would have shown that he tried, did get a punch off and did still sacrifice himself to try and stop Adam. Then his death wouldn't be a joke and it hits harder that Charlie got so upset to turn into her hellborn persona to fight Adam.

​​@@KeeleTasumeTo counter this a little, we see Adam not taking the fight seriously almost the entire time, just shooting around at random and acting as if it's a massive joke. But once he notices Pentious ship, he goes all out with an instant death shot and is pretty relieved he managed to do it in time. I have a feeling if the ship managed to hit Adam, the damage would have been so severe that he would have lost the fight immediately. So he felt seriously threatened by it.

Ya, he could have least fired his shot and injured him, or it been wasted. Also Lucifer could have more of a fight, I would have loved to have like summon copies of himself as we saw him do in episode 5 and use them to hold Adam down as he pummels him, or something along those lines.

I liked it this way as it showed off the massive power difference. He’s just a sinner, not even a full overlord, nowhere near base level angel power level. At that point, with those heaven blasts Adam was shooting off, even alastor would’ve been vaporized. So when sir pentious was hit along with his blimp, he stood absolutely zero chance.

@@WraithLK That's also probably why Sir Pentious respawned in heaven. He wasn't killed by the any of the exorcists weapons. Adam probably could have just gone in and done that from the start, but it wouldn't permanently kill any of the sinners.

I have thought the same thing about Alastor, especially after seeing the Cherubs 'fall' in Helluva Boss. Maybe he was a angel or something like that (there was a deer Cherub and he IS a deer) so maybe he went to try and 'cleanse' Earth of evil by killing the worst of the worst, but was made Fallen because he was killing humans and not human souls turned demon. If he fought with the angels meant to stop him/send him to hell, maybe he killed and ate them, making him a cannibal. It could be how he could drink so much and still be fine enough to dance the night away with Mimzy when she was alive. Maybe he was trapped on Earth and forced to live out his life a a mortal before going to hell? I also find it suspish that he and Lilith were both gone the same 7 years. Maybe she holds his soul? Charlie did say Lilith empowered Hell with her songs and Alastor IS the radio demon. It could make sense.

I personally don't think that Alastor is a fallen angel and the unclipping of his wings is a more metaphorical saying. I base this on the fact that angels don't bleed red, but Alastor is. He wants out of his deal with... whomever. I do agree with the theory of Lillith being the one he has a deal with though. Apart from the seven years thing, he made a deal with Charlie and the deal was that she will help him with something. Could that something be that he wants Charlie to persuade her mother to let Alastor go? To make the deal null and void.

I honestly just see her wanting to fight as a way to really trend on social media and raise her popularity. But there's a quote I feel fits here. "Easier said than done." Sure it's easy to talk about fighting the angels. But it's a whole different thing when it comes to actually doing it.