Brett Voigt Honnold used a Caldwell route too.

Also note that Tommy free soloed it a few times (other routes), climbed every known route with a rope and wife, and made up about five of his own routes up El Cap, all under ten years or whatever. And with a missing finger. It seems to me, Tommy is the greatest rock climber in history (though he may or may not be the best at sports climbing or bouldering), he has to be the greatest big wall climber and one of the best overall, given the fact he was a top sports climber by the age of 16 and a top simple wall climber by the age of 14.

Tommy never free soloed any part of it. He free-climbed it. By his own admission Tommy has been up el cap countless times, but never without a rope.

​@@TheClassicWorld Tommy has never free soloed El Cap. No-one but Honnold has. He's free climbed every major route, but that's dramatically different. And to my knowledge he hasn't really "made up" any other routes on El Cap; he did the first free ascent of the dihedral wall, but that was a known route, previously requiring aid. Factual quibbles aside, yes, he's a phenomenal climber, arguably the greatest big wall climber of all time. But it's a stretch to call him the greatest climber in history. The dawn wall is a huge achievement, but big wall first ascents are just one measure. Like free soloing is a measure of something specific and weird (like amygdala responsiveness), big wall climbing is largely a measure of grit, intensity, rope and gear skills, and to a somewhat lesser degree, pure climbing skill. In terms of pure climbing ability, no-one, Tommy included, would put him in the same category as Ondra, Sharma, Megos, or the handful of other absolute freaks who dominate sport climbing and bouldering.

@@BRADSZ99 Yeah, sorry, I mean to say he free climbed every other route. He has never free soloed it.

one rock molecule probably

Credit card thick, 1cm wide, something like that I'd imagine :D

@@Kretunio 1 cm... credit card thick...

@@barockobama5441 what I mean is two dimensions horizontally like max 1cm and then credit card thick from the wall to you. Just how I'd imagine it ;) Don't take it too seriously though.

@@barockobama5441 New valve-proof credit cards.

Dead on...I've always liked climbing so much. You just end up spending time interacting with people that all spend a lot of time honoring and paying respect wherever and to who ever deserves it. Adam gets a seven minute video to be available world wide all to himself and he spends half of his well deserved time praising Tommy and Kevin. That's real love and respect.

I'm so glad Adam is the first I saw of climbing rather than some pretentious James Lucas type douchebag that he could outclimb with an arm and a leg tied behind his back

@@benjaminsayer8873 ….douchebags are pretty rare in the outdoor climbing world. I’ve climbed in several countries and I never saw it. Typically climbers who are not actually on a climb themselves, will be belaying or cheering on their buddies or even other climbers. It’s just how climbers are.

It feels kind of like the same leap-forward that happened when Sharma exploded on the scene back in the day.

The best explanation I heard was that he followed the path set by Tommy, that's why it was easier. Technically, it's still very challenging, but it's easier to follow on a trail set up. I'm not a pro, I'm just repeating what I read somewhere else.

Something something standing on the shoulders of giants?

@@andreidinu7316 Yeah it's definitely easier. He even said so himself in this interview 4:38. But even though it was "easier" the fact that he did it in a few days where it took Tommy and Jorgeson 6 years is fucking hard.

@@Benkkuful no doubt. However Adam has been one of the best for years, even a noob like me knew about La Dura Dura for years now. When you're that good, you are that good.

Who is the best sport climber then

Andrew Gautreaux he said “Ondra is not just the best sport climber...” that means that he’s saying he is the best sport climber.

Loved that book

Whats a Book? Is that like AI

Not by the time they tried to send it.

@Daniel Anderson. True, but Adam ondra has climbed 15 A, and jorgeson had only been a bouldering guy, so Kevin made more progress.

Kevin jorgesson is the only climber who has done the original line. IMO

@@ng6508 that's a really controversial statement but I can't exactly disagree

@@CoNFiiDeNTiiAL I know, I mean both options qould probably be imposible for me but coming from a sport climbing background it seems like such a detour that it nearly seems a different pitch. Again it is only just an opinion. In fact i was surprised by the decision of Adam ondra.

he is great at evaluating his abilities. it would have had some bad impact on his rep if he failed

@@jkjaniszewski Many say that that Ondra is the strongest or one of the strongest climbers in the world right now. If he wouldnt be able to do it he would simply need to put in more time to learn the style of climbing and he would have done it sooner than later.

T0BBi94 you are right. Especially that Kevin did it together with Caldwell. I wasn’t filled in on details of the dawn wall project till a couple of days ago.

So interesting how many factors influence the overall strength. Cause it’s not like he wins all the 10boys for what I know

Adam climbs a whole number grade higher than the hardest pitch on dawn wall. There is no doubt he is just physically much stronger than the best big wall climbers around. There was a video of Tommy climbing with megos, the gap in strength is pretty ridiculous. And because Tommy and Kevin scouted the route, and set the betas to tackle it. The biggest challenge is not much there anymore for someone as strong as Adam ondra as long as he can be costumed to the exposure and long fatigue. Just make sure bring a logistic pro with him to help with the gear prep and hauling!

Trad is at least as much harder compared to sport as sport is to top rope. That is at least for me.

Yosemite style climbing is also very much not sport climbing. Its not just the difference between sport and trad.

I think here we have sport climbing. Ok, you need to place gear, but only in easy pitches. Hard ones are permanently protected, also tops of each pitch is permanently fixed, so Its more big wall sport climb. I mean dawn wall now. I dont know what about other routes on Cap

@@aladeenmadafaka6286 I think you are conflating "bolted" with "sport". Traditional climbs may also have fixed gear (historically pitons) although it is fairly accepted that long sections that will not accept removable protection can have bolts. Many "traditional" lines might contain a bolt ladder for blank sections. Of course, I'm sure traditional style means different things in different regions.

Sucks to have to wait until at least 2021

@Mr T yes, it's awesome!! 🎉

I mean did people really doubt him much? He's pretty much the GOAT...

@Lordeverfall100 I don't know man. Honnold said something in Reel Rock about some fellow climbers didn't think Adam could do it. He replied with "of course he's going to do it. it's only 5.14d...it's not even that hard for him." So there might have been a few people doubting his ability to do the Dawn Wall.

He did say he used a little aid climbing

@@letsssgooo4618 on his first 'scout' up it. He did climb it completely free after working it

You mean Honnold on Half Dome?

@@joewiley6927 yeah there's no free soloing the dawn wall unless you literally want to die

suppose do, seeing the Dawn Wall is part of El Cap...

Who do you think he looks like?

@@1ena585 lmao

I'm a huge fan of AO but there's an orc named Snaga look him up

@@RodrigoRangel1 If Snaga and Pippin had a love child

yea, it must be it. It's more conquering the wall and going the hardest way up a mountain... the chromi is the extra price 😅

I just like pooping while suspended in remote locations. Why do other people do it?

Yep he talks about it on Joe rogans podcast.

Honnold said he’s a 100% confident no one will ever free solo the dawn wall.

Now I can't unsee this...

He was there for weeks practicing the wall before making his push. That's what he was referring to on the first day in the valley getting up the early pitches using aid. He free climbed it.

I wondered about that too but just figured he probably wouldn't fudge the numbers so to speak.

He said he did the down climb in a insta post

Cool thanks!

Into a bag thats put into a bigger bag.

Splatt!!!!

I don't think anyone is arguing your point. Ondra is incredibly humble about this and never alludes to anything but the sentiments you're sharing.

You're 100% right but, if you can shoot f1.2 .....isn't it wicked hard not to lol

98% chance that was his preference but his wife didn't want both children to be named after his passions and wanted their second child to be named after someone from her family.

Ah yes, the meme. Freeclimbing =/ free soloing

Free climbing means not using aid. Free soloing means not using aid or protection.

Jobear “crack” not crux

In fairness, honest mistake lol

Due to the colour of the teeth?

@@ElfriedesFrisierstub I think Carl was referring to Adams caffeine charged verbal energy.

What?

i mean, look at that hold. doesnt look real man. unfathomable for us mortals

thought it was a forearm goiter or an ectopic pregnancy when I first saw it

Watch it again. He was using it for the first exploration ground up instead of repelling from the top. Had nothing to do with the real accent.

he did free it all. He climbed the whole route ground up first, using some aid, and then worked the crux pitches and eventually climbed the whole thing free :)

@@nextoliver ah poo, I thought there was hope for us mortals

😆

@@gerrardo36 haha i also was a bit confused with how they edited that part

Everyone is good at something, it just takes time to find your passion.

Matus Povoda wait a minute...

Alex didn't climb the Dawn Wall; he climbed Freerider. Tommy Caldwell set the Dawn Wall route with the help of Kevin Jorgensen.

Alex Honnold what?!

and Honnold was coached by Caldwell to do Freerider. And, who opis to say, if it wasn't for TC helping out AH, that attempt may have ended up tragically.

actually pretty much all elite climbers i know are all humble i don't know whose ego you are talking about!!!! they all are chasing something of their own to keep!!!! that's the wall for everyone!!!! he is not TRYING to show respect he IS SHOWING RESPECT!!!! everyone finds something that is humbling about the wall after all we are all limited by our capabilities!!!!

@@Fantastic-One sounds like your definitely limited 😂

@@tonizen876 yes that's what i said, i am very definitely limited!!!! even superman was limited!!!

@@kbonh22 SHOUTING WHO'S SHOUTING? What is this your first day on the internet?

He practiced with aid climbing then free climbed it you jackwagon

Yeah, he didn't replicate what they did, but it is still extremely impressive.

That was just his warm up - 4 days to the top with a little aid. He free climbed it in 8 days after that.

That was a practice run. He did free climb it after a months practice. And i don't think he's in anyones shadow. He is tge strongest climber out there

As others have pointed out, that was in reference to getting on the wall for the first time and preparing to practice the various pitches. He made a ground-up push in the end and completed a legitimate second ascent. Factoring in his lack of previous experience trad climbing and big wall climbing, suggesting he's living in a shadow is incredibly naive to his accomplishments in the climbing world. Ultimately, obvious troll is obvious.

Maybe listen to what he says before you comment misleading stuff

You are such an idiot, very few people have completed this climb with ropes, going without ropes opus a death wish. You would never be able to do this