Yeah that’s toxic

That lady is resentful and abusive

Its always the point "Im older, you HAVE to respect me"...soooo, I dont deserve respect? Had that argument with my family more often than I'd like to

Exactly. Why are black moms like this?? Ik exactly what she’s going through

Me who can totally relate to her situation. I hope I get to be heard some day too 😢😢

Me too grandma 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 is rude and mean 🤔

I know she can’t wait to leave ! This is why so many from they generation end up dying in nursing homes .

I bet you are right. My first thought was ,I will help you. I have always worked with children .This just broke my heart.

@@maryCCFarm God bless 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽😘

@@evonza4858 ty I would take her in , and help her in a heart beat. Poor child.Its not easy being without your momma,I know,first handed.

This!

Basically she the problem that’s a child she hurting

Sad

Very true

I agree. She taking her frustrations out on her Granddaughter for what her daughter done to her. Their relationship won't work until she pray anf adk God for forgiveness. The grandmother is wrong. This is so heartbreaking

Grandma thank you for the care at this point of the situation take the matter to Jesus Isaiah 8 verse 18 should be your declaration daily

Grandma thank you for the care at this point of the situation take the matter to Jesus Isaiah 8 verse 18 should be your declaration daily

I’m glad somebody see that but every body got understand we all was kids and we see how the grandmama was raised

No, that girl is disrespectful and needs her azz...whooped

exactly!

Yes

Yes! Respect goes both ways .

man!

Exactly!!!

Bless your heart for understanding that. Ik your grandkids love you

It's not just glossing over, it's the realization of what these elders went through especially in a not so nice ti.e for black folk. There wasn't as much social mobility as today or exposure to higher order processing. Folk from simplier time act in simplier ways. But I understand your thought process.

Sometimes these kids need fear put in there heart some of these kids are to disrespectful 😒

@@tee5747 fear ain’t gone help to make them not disrespectful and if the disrespect is too much then just separate yourself from the child

@Tee but was the child disrespectful? Or just wanting to be heard? Some parents deem this as disrespectful, which is crazy. How else will you know what's going on in your child's life if you don't ask or listen to learn. Obviously, granny doesn't have effective communication skills. But she sure knows how to justify her violent acts and wicked tongue. That's the sad part.

@@V4Vonnie That is a perspective I didn’t think abt. Thank you for your comment & sharing it with me. My heart hurt for that beautiful girl, but I can understand & empathize with grandma when I look at it that way. Kids being hurt is my “trigger”, as the kids would say. I had a pretty horrific childhood, so my 1st instinct is to get angry for the person receiving the abuse. Being a yt straight female, I know I can’t pretend to fully know what it feels like for a POC to go thru what they unjustly go thru, especially during grandmas era. So, thank you for bringing that perspective to the conversation. I know it’s not anyone’s job to educate me on these topics, but I will always be grateful when someone does. ✌️

I AGREE

COULDNT AGREE MORE😃

I agree

Right! I was losing my mind. She don’t need to be respectful to an adult that beats her & insults her daily. I get they aren’t her kids & she raised them, but damn that isn’t that little girls fault. Grandma is the entire problem here.

💯💯

Facts! That's it! And she is trying to do what she couldn't with daughter. I was ready to be mad at the girl. She's definitely not a bad kid.

💥 boom ! Someone said it 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾

glad sb said it before i typed it

Preach.

Right! like make it make sense grandma. What do you expect her to do when you verbally and physically abuse her. I hope her boyfriend momma keeps encouraging her and being there for her.

I bet she coddles the fawk outta them boys

@@TiffTheGift1 fr

Exactly 💯

I think Grandma needs some counseling at a whole bunch of it I feel bad for the little girl

Gm is the issue

Well said

Bingo. I hope she realizes before its too late.

been estranged 20 years because of the same.

💯

Facts!

She’s baby boomer

I’m glad somebody said it

Yep!

No

@@dsffuyrgdasggs3817 your comment is pointless just like your life

That’s generational trauma for ya😔

dont forget how they still treat you a kid even in your 20s.

Yes and you’re always a whore even if you’re just stepping out to get the mail; then put you in a position to be abused (my experience) just the mental torture and confusion. Completely breaks the spirit. I turned 30 this year and I’m finally figuring out how to live my life beyond abusive parents

being your room is disrecptful, looking out the window is disrepectful....on and on. like no wonder why granny on high blood pressure meds

right! what’s crazy is that if you respond, it’s a problem. and if you don’t respond, that’s could be a problem too

I want everyone to know I am grandmother and cannot imagine slapping, using foul language nor calling the cops on my grandchildren, My oldest grandchild is 24, This is unheard in my heart.

It seems like she's trying to stop the grand daughter from going down the same path. The fear the grandmother has due to her daughter is traumatizing to the both of them. She sees her daughter in her grand daughter and it is terrorizing to the grand mother. The grandmother is wrong for hiw she's handling it, however, I see it and they both need therapy. Intensive therapy.

Yes. You hit the nail on the head.

SHE'S A GRANDMOTHER THAT'S TAKING IT OUT ON HER GRAND DAUGHTER I LOVE MY GRAND DAUGHTER AND IF I FEEL I CAN'T HANDLE HER THAT'S WHAT MY SON IS FOR PERIDOT BUT I MUST SAY MY GRAND DAUGHTER LOVES ME SOOOOOOO MUCH I WOULDN'T EVEN THINK OF CALLING MY GRAND DAUGHTER OUT HER NAME NO MATTER WHAT'S GOING ON

I totally agree

He was scared. Definite trauma response. This had me flashing back

Grandma was probably treated this way...grandma REALLY needs some serious therapy.

I totally agree Karamo glossed over her attitude because of an connection from his past which was wrong in his era. Frankly I was shocked he didn't check her harshly. He repreminded Zeniah more sternly. He's usually on the side of right and the law.

@@nopjack7278 agreed 💯

Amen

I agree

Don't say that. They both love each other grandma is old school and she don't know how to separate what her mom did from her.

I mean far away.

@@sheca8699 doesnt give her an excuse to push what she went through onto her grandchildren

@@sheca8699 I’m telling you “old school” is a term that we as a community use to hide abuse and it’s disgusting I hope she cuts of this grandmother as she seems like a toxic negative energy

@@sheca8699 no she needs to cut the toxicity off. That lady old and will never change.

Mental is real. Pray 🙏 for the grandma and her strength to do and say what's right.

Wrong on so many levels after the mother died the grandmother was thrown into a role of sole caretaker and provider for 4 babies really had the kids mother listen and been responsible respectful she would not have gotten killed This doesn’t need to have tragedy # 2 from a hot butt granddaughter too. I would have knocked her out and been ready to go to jail knowing that she was going to be 6 feet under the same situation happened in our family and I watched my parents die daily dealing with my sister 3 kids who were babies at the time . Those kids killed my parents daily and caused them to age rapidly. I would have beat them once and they would gotten it together. You need Jesus. Teen teenagers don’t need no boyfriend because all they to do is have sex and the girl is damaged goods forever God ordained marriage not fleshly sexual activity is for married couples only sexual activity outside of marriage is done by whores and loose silly females

@@chrisjohnson322 ....This comment is just side eye like wtf-

In the book of Proverbs >. “Don’t argue with a fool lest you become as he/she.🙏🙏🙏🙏😇

@@tedra6455 This is all that the Bible requires because God is keeping a record of every single word that you, me and everyone else speaks & he will hold each of us accountable. Continue to be kind 🙏🙏🙏

Me too. Triggering me BIG TIME

triggering my whole being rn. as soon as she said “that’s why I slapped the mess outta her in the car” I got so angry! Like why can’t you have a simple conversation with a child w/o getting to that point!

triggering me real bad.

No frrrr, and when she went in for the hug I got such a disgusting feeling over me

@@tojis1277 It reminded me of that "We doing this to look good in front of all these people but you know im angry" fake face parents do

I feel for both of them 🥺. Them generational curses are so real . Hopefully baby girl breaks the cycle with her own kids. Proud of you mama💗..

Exactly

The grandmother Is so mean and harsh . Poor Zaniah

@@Riyuzi2 Thank you beautiful!💜

Beautifully stated…do a new thing!

Fr like you can’t be in denial of what you do too me

They both need counseling perhaps to grieve.

Nah that young lady needs to just move on and walk away from that old lady! She over talks that young lady and don’t listen so she is the reason her own daughter is dead. My grandmother would never treat me that way. I would be done with that old lady

I agree. She wants to be heard and seen. 😔

@DriaBruton exactly

💯

Grandma's are raising more and more of their grandchildren. As grandparents we have to listen to our children. As well as Respect our grandkids.

I agree 100% that Grandma need to work on her own issues, because she has a lot of issues of her own!!!

Perfectly said

This Grandma is trying to raise her Grandchildren the way they shouuld grow respect to Grandman every pne want good for their childrens these young people love man more than Education all they want to do is to disrepect their elders

I really hope she sees this. ❤

Exactly

I completely agree but in this case it just seems like the girl grew up with a very resentful grandmother who refused to explain why she thinks things are problems... You cant really respect someone if you dont have any understanding of why they are behaving the way they are

Fr that’s how you know she don’t like her smh poor baby.

@@starrb1794 everything brought up that presents the granddaughter in a positive light grandmother is so quick to shut it down to make her look worse than a typical teenager

My grandma did the same to me

@@nakkesha I honestly thought it was just me she's like " yea yea yea but when she gets home it's on ! " like what

@@starrb1794 I don't think she necessarily dislike her i believe she feels like she failed her own daughter and is trying to protect her in her "old school" way. Also, this baby looks VERY MUCH like her mom and the granddaughter reminds her of that every day. Granny is tryna do a re-do and is going about it all wrong!

That’s what is going on. She believes she failed her daughter and anytime Zaniya behaves like her mom, grandma relives the trauma of the loss 😢

reminds me of my grandma fr

she on my fuckin nerves THE GRANDMOMMY..................STUCK IN HER FUCKIN WAYS CANT CHANGE.

Grandma you can't apologize then say more toxic stuff.

I was think the same thing she does look exactly like her mother

this is true!!!!

Absolutely ‼️ she's still angry with her daughter and her grandbaby is catching the brunt of that resentment. Beyond heartbreaking. Grandma is displaying the devastating mentality of the elder generation within the Black community 😔

@@NAHN07 The very prime example of issues within the black community especially black women and its so sad

Exactly!

No the grandma is tired of raising kids that her loose daughter went to the streets to have sex with a less than a person who used her for his release even a dog protects her puppies and she will kill you about them too. The sad part is that it’s takes two to bring forth a child they both are worthless as humans

Like the crowd isn’t even done clapping and giving her her props and she’s already shutting it down and denigrating the accomplishments. This isn’t how we encourage good things in our children. It’s how we kill their drive. Baby girl is doing prerequisites for aerospace engineering and she’s worried about some damn dishes? A mess.

Grandma has convinced herself this young lady is an bad seed,therefore she can't see the positive things she's accomplished,

Thank you! You exactly right!!! This story was very triggering for me. Grandma needs therapy and anger management.

@@linealjr07 I agree , is being black kids growing up , now as adults we see some of this behavior was out of line

we need more hard ass granny like that

Right ! And she talking about some “move on my time” why do parents/guardians think our lives are completely controlled by them and we only grow up when THEY are ready. That’s the problem I’m having with my parents. Im 18 abt to be 19 and my parents won’t ever let me out the house. Won’t teach me to drive and pretending they have my best interest at heart. Im in college I handle my business and they raised me well. I don’t get why I have to wait for them to be ready for me to grow up when it’s already been fucking done. Literally this is how suicides happen.

@@dynastybaker811 I let my parents/family dictate my life and still to this day have problems making my own decisions that im now trying to unlearn. I didnt get my license 2 years after getting my permit because my parents wouldn't teach me to drive. Sometimes you have to find ways to take matters into your own hands. If that means you have to go the back end or secretly ask a friend to help I say go for it. Its a way to keep you bound and controlled by them. Do what's right for you and Good Luck!

Because people don't care about child abu$e. I was bothered by that too. Karamo has no problem telling people to leave their spouse who physically hits them. But people don't care for violence against children as much as they do in other groups.

Thank you saying this. My mama told me January 20th 2023 that she never wanted me, nobody does, she regretted having me & so on forth…I decided to forgive & move on but I can’t lie, those words are LOUD in my ear head & I can’t believe it was said but God has me covered.

The grandparent just was not a listener. The young girl did whatever she could that could do to 😮😂keep the hurt away.

But can't she see her daughter was not a mentally well person?

Typical black male worshiper!!! Do all and everything and make all kinds of excuses for the boys. But all the girls get is excessive discipline and emotional abuse disguised as “protection”. I’ll bet her brothers have a totally different experience from the grandmother than this poor girl received. 😢😢

This grandmother is wrong

How can a 17 year old have a mother in law. Isn't she under age.

@@christineshand1802 you missing the point!

@@Toriab thank you!!!!

@@christineshand1802 Her age has nothing to do with it

I don’t hope for her to get away but I hope for her to have more support from people on the outside and be strong enough to just get through another year and go off to college

Put the kids in foster care

Karamo does a fine job in trying to settle hurt in relationships. there are many families that need help in solving pride of a parent and brokenness of children and adults. He is bringing the therapist via tv...himself..to those that refuse to get therapy. So many family need to love, listen to each other and forgive one another. Thank you Kamaro!

The Bible says train up a chid in the way he should grow and when he is old never depart it well Grandma you tryin to do the best for your Grandchlidren love Grand ma continue to to do the best for them God bless you

@@lartinewilliams2719 I’m aware of that scripture. As the Bible also says Ephesians 4:29, Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. I’m still standing on what I said just because you’re an elder doesn’t mean you be disrespectful and mean. It’s not fair that she threw her hurt on her granddaughter when she was hurting too. Uplift and encourage rather than disrespect. Be Blessed

That's right

@@lartinewilliams2719 so beating and verbally abuse is what’s good for the child? If the child is visibly hurting from the shit her grandmother put her through how is that good for the child?

I am 55 and am also Old School, so my children say. I however always say please and thank you when my children do anything I ask. I show my children who are all grown now respect and get it in return. This is so sad to me, if Grandma would ask kindly of things she needs children to do and say please and thank you the children will do the same in return. This Grandma doesn't know how to correctly communicate and gets the reaction that someone gets that lacks respect from others.

M

Exactly

The grandmother need to give respect to her granddaughters. She is hurting her not helping her.

Dating at 17.....too early

She's a good child because the grandmother have poured into her. Kids need to do what they're told. The grandmother isn't telling her to do anything wrong or harmful. This generation want to be 40 before they're 40.

1000%

N they dont deserve respect n will never change

This is y when my children's wz little I prayed and ask God 🙏 to let me live to raised my own children's because there are no other person beside (GOD) that will love ur children's and treat them right but they mother no matter what I had 8 children's and noone could just come into my family because me and my sister raised our children's more like sisters/brothers then just cousins and this y now they kind just call on each other threw thick and thin they coming I think 🙏🏽 for the love they have for each other and wen problem come up they have each other back I really feel for this child because her grandmother is a BULLY PERIOD 😶😡

This grandma is very disrespectful I pray and hope this granddaughter will be a better person than the grandma portray her to be!! Our God is watching over her (the granddaughter

she’s never been disrespectful. zaniah has always been so sweet, she’s on the cheer team, she’s an A and B average student. everyone loves her including me! she always spoke so highly of her when we went to school together. so sad to see this happening.

Do you live in the home.mind yur own business

@@rhoshellpearson2163if you was getting treated like that you would not be commenting this hush .

@@M.Swigglez You never know... All that grand mother expressed is rage and an open wound that maybe opened wider if she dies too.

Yessss

And that would be my end goal never to see her again not even in death

I don't think that the grandmother is horrible at all. But I can definitely see that she is tired of all the negative feedback that she is getting from her grand-daughter. It takes one who has been there to recognize the signs.

She is not horrible stfu.

@@blessedbeauty5411 awwww you weren't hugged much as a child were you

Facts

You can’t tell just tell by one interview

Where are the teachers, neighbors, and most importantly The Police. If they responded to A call of abuse from the granddaughter to the grandmother they dropped the ball. Grandma admitted she's abusive to this young lady. Aren't they trained to detect who the real threat is.?

I know we need to pray for Granny she need help truly. Actually she been through a lot and taking it out on her. She just need help. ..

@@valeriebennett9706 ima the grandmother side

@@juanitaminor8113 u need help ima pray for u also

So true. Granny has issues.

I don’t think it’s that exactly…..I think the grandmother is extremely afraid of seeing her granddaughter doing the same as her mother, so her flawed form of discipline is kicked into overdrive and it’s hurting both of them emotionally. They’re both tired. That being said, she’s being extremely close minded to the fact that her granddaughter is NOT her mother and negative reinforcement will get them nowhere.

Did grandma have to take responsibility for the children.? She made it Clear the children were hers before the mother passed. Is it possible she was controlling and took over. Nor did she appear remorseful/ hurt by whatever fate took her daughter. I lost my 26 year old son 17 years ago (no he wasn't an intended target ) and I'm still grieving. People display grief diffently, hopefully I'm wrong about her,?

BYEEE

Did you see them also.? She became aware of the audiences response to Zeniah s tears

@mzpradaa if you can try to support zaniah until she can get away before her grandmother breaks her spirit!!

See. That grandmother is evil & jealous.

How you going to put your grand daughter out?!! Oh my!! 😢😢

@@doreenwilliams9622 i’m going to do everything i can to find her on social media & contact her! i moved across town junior year, so unfortunately we lost contact. it won’t be hard to find her since she’s very active on social media, along with our peers though.

This is so sad. The grandmother is ABUSIVE...I pray the granddaughter heal and move the hell away from her... oh my good. Generational meaness in that woman

So true.

Maybe the indepth talk with the grandmother occurred off screen. Why add fuel to a fire, he didn't want to set the grandmother off 🤣🤣🤣, she is his elder too

@@macyprimm7201 But since when do elders not deserve to be checked?

@@EthosOfEnvy I didn't say the grandmother's "old school" parenting didn't need to be addressed, what I said is that out of respect for all involved, professional off screen intervention may have occurred.

He held back a lot, maybe he was afraid. He usually is more direct with his guests and quick to call them out on their “wrong doings”

I wish I could take Zaniya

Sad thing is the abuse will continue in the military. They treat minorities like trash over here

exactly I was so disappointed in him

Yeah...I'm surprised of his response.

I thought it was just me. In my eyes she did nothing wrong and seemed more mature than her grandmother. Respect is earned not given because you "raised" me

I didn't like that either...that's how so many child go unsaved and abused for years

He doesn’t have the range to be the moderator of these conversations. He always does this. Both ppl need to apologize seems to be his motto😒

Will you house her and put food on her belly cos you seem to be comfortable behind that screen talking about the grandma is evil...she could've let the state take her when her mum died but she took her in and cared for her...is she hostile yes but her intentions are not bad.

@@opeyemiadegoke361 oh no, an adult is doing the bare minimum we have to kneel before them and thank her hail to our queeen 😒 the audacity

Figurative language

​@@gm3entertainment Abusive language, and abusive actions on top of it.

@@opeyemiadegoke361 yes I agree

Exactly

When you an adult an out on your own you can do what you want . When someone is taking care of you all that PERIODT attitude can go to the way side

@@ramonahamm6292 you missed the point

@@ramonahamm6292 it’s not attitude just because you will allow somebody to put their hands on you and talk to you any type of way and beat on you doesn’t mean that everyone else law will. The grandmother is abusive she takes her frustration out in that girl and if she couldn’t handle raising them kids she shouldn’t have taken them in smh.

@@ramonahamm6292 You honestly think the second this girl leaves her grandma is magically going to respect her?

I always tell my kids to say what is on their mind. You can express how you feel without being disrespectful, rude, cussing, or being loud.

I think he knows, it's just for the Grandmother who feels like the victim? and just to settle things.

@@mercy6549 but then it's enabling her

@@prettypills true

Pandering to the grandmother and gaslighting the girl is dysfunctional AF!! Nobody gains anything: grandmother leaves feeling vindicated and with an even more heightened sense of entitlement. The girl leaves feeling humiliated, disempowered and stripped of any sense of agency, the host feeling like he’s done a great job facilitating the “reconciliation “. Epic mess!!