i hate the Minecraft Speedrun Cheating Drama...

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AntVenom

AntVenom

Күн бұрын

Did Dream Cheat? Here are some numbers not considered before.
» Breaking Minecraft Playlist - • Breaking Minecraft
» Get a Minecraft Server - mcph.to/AntVenom
0:00 Introduction
1:36 Which Numbers are Right?
4:18 Correct the Bias (In a New Way)
6:50 Extra Considerations
11:34 Opinions
CREDITS
Dream - Providing the spreadsheet for the 5 earlier streams
55c3 - RNG Display Mod - / @55c38
KaptainWutax - Helping with some of the raw math
Aspenuwu - Designing a neat simulator of the odds (unused in this video)
strawberryblock - Making a neat visual simulator
Minecraft Java Speedrun Discord
I'll edit in more names as I remember them. It's been a long week.
LINKS
Binomial Distribution Calculator - www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...
6 Original Runs KZfaq Playlist - • Dream 1.16 VODs
6 Original Runs Pearl Spreadsheet - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
6 Original Runs Blaze Spreadsheet - docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
5 Older Runs Pearl Spreadsheet - imgur.com/a/XrQQjbq
RNG Display Mod by 55c3 - github.com/55c3/rng-tracker/
(Type /worldrng to see the world RNG, and rename any mob to "rng" using a nametag to see that entities RNG value)
SOCIAL MEDIA
» Twitter - / antvenom
» Facebook - / antvenompage
» Instagram - / theantvenom
» TwitchTV - / antvenom
» Discord - / discord
WRITER, EDITOR, VOICE - AntVenom
» KZfaq - / antvenom
» Twitter - / antvenom
MUSIC
» LEMMiNO - Cipher - / cipher
» Epidemic Sound (Covert Affairs)
» KZfaq Audio Library (Far the Days Come, A Slow Dream)

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@AntVenom
@AntVenom 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. I hate the drama, and made a video anyways. I used to live and breathe Minecraft speedrunning. One of the most popular videos on my channel is a Minecraft speedrun. As a channel of my size who used to speedrun a lot, I felt it was too important to stay quiet from this situation. So yes, I can hate the situation, and still feel the need to speak up.
@nezu5263
@nezu5263 3 жыл бұрын
Its a nicely done video. Happy new year btw!
@trsqn5938
@trsqn5938 3 жыл бұрын
i shidded myself
@phil5583
@phil5583 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i think i have the same opinion. Very good Video!
@zatch9362
@zatch9362 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ant, and great video! Thanks for presenting the stats, not just opinions!
@unknownanonymous821
@unknownanonymous821 3 жыл бұрын
@@trsqn5938 I sharted....
@alexgrady5869
@alexgrady5869 3 жыл бұрын
50% of comments: dream drama Other 50%: *L E M M I N O*
@d4vian398
@d4vian398 3 жыл бұрын
the song is catchy af
@JakeSafetyMan
@JakeSafetyMan 3 жыл бұрын
I KNEW I HEARD THIS MUSIC FROM SOMEWHERE!!
@iloveasherhaile
@iloveasherhaile 3 жыл бұрын
@@JakeSafetyMan Cicada 3301 video
@sleepyibe
@sleepyibe 3 жыл бұрын
DUDUDUN DUN DUN DUN DUN DUUUN
@0ricent497
@0ricent497 3 жыл бұрын
Cicada 3301 songs are finally getting into big youtube videos, I love it here.
@siffumetsu271
@siffumetsu271 3 жыл бұрын
Best part about this drama with dream is I'm getting some good stats lessons that I don't have to pay for
@ayaanosaurasrex6582
@ayaanosaurasrex6582 3 жыл бұрын
The hacker
@insananugerah9915
@insananugerah9915 3 жыл бұрын
True, Me2
@NoliePolieGuacamole
@NoliePolieGuacamole 3 жыл бұрын
YES
@mintaroum.9096
@mintaroum.9096 3 жыл бұрын
TrUO
@spiceg9614
@spiceg9614 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@theworldischanging71
@theworldischanging71 3 жыл бұрын
13:08 well said. Dream doseent deserve to be canceled but he DOES deserve to be called out for insulting the moderators by calling them "clout chasers" when they were just doing their job. He insulted the speedrunning community as a whole and is still not willing to acknowledge his mistakes.
@lavendeey2265
@lavendeey2265 3 жыл бұрын
He had apologized for most of the things he said I'm pretty sure. He explained most of his reactions in the interview and said he regretted it, fortunately.
@theworldischanging71
@theworldischanging71 3 жыл бұрын
@@lavendeey2265 can u link me where he apologized?
@kimberly.z
@kimberly.z 3 жыл бұрын
@@theworldischanging71 well said. Couldn't have explained it better.
@Astralpaladin7955
@Astralpaladin7955 3 жыл бұрын
But Dream Was Canclled Again And Possibly Doxxed Because Of His Song Mask
@lurnyxs
@lurnyxs 3 жыл бұрын
@@Astralpaladin7955 I mean he had it coming tbh, after all the things dream has done and after the Mask Song i would want to, not doxx but i guess harrass him.
@elvenalonly
@elvenalonly 3 жыл бұрын
I swear, analysing Minecraft math with Lemmino chiper music in the background will become a meme someday.
@angela.luntian
@angela.luntian 3 жыл бұрын
Its gonna be THE meta
@VexedSteak
@VexedSteak 3 жыл бұрын
For now, It's new meta
@raspite3195
@raspite3195 3 жыл бұрын
The music in Lemmino's videos are ALWAYS such bops tho
@Mutanttheenby
@Mutanttheenby 3 жыл бұрын
Lemmino's music is dope af
@Faun471
@Faun471 3 жыл бұрын
@@raspite3195 not only his music choice, Lemmino's videos are also top notch. I really love his content, especially since anyone can see how well produced his videos are.
@Hazzinator-
@Hazzinator- 3 жыл бұрын
I think the real rng is the friends we made along the way
@talentedcrown8998
@talentedcrown8998 3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@justanub4697
@justanub4697 3 жыл бұрын
PREACH BROTHER. PREAACHHH We're forgetting something important here and it's the unity of the community!
@miisports6147
@miisports6147 3 жыл бұрын
I see a toycat sub here
@Carrotto
@Carrotto 3 жыл бұрын
@@miisports6147 toycat is yes
@QuackImpala7321
@QuackImpala7321 3 жыл бұрын
hello alpharad subscriber
@limboslam
@limboslam 3 жыл бұрын
Antvenom: An OG Minecrafter straight out of the Runescape era. Who lasted *all the way through*. Most youtubers from that era just lost the charm and went. This guy has been with us for soooo long.
@LazyLoonz
@LazyLoonz 3 жыл бұрын
"Lost the charm" no man that's just *you* no longer liking them anymore because you're older
@limboslam
@limboslam 3 жыл бұрын
@@LazyLoonz I meant "lost the charm" for the those who stopped doing it. People like Sundee and asfjerome are still doing it like nothing's changed.
@Dak36799
@Dak36799 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, He seems like the guy to hate dream
@mariusrood-menefee3426
@mariusrood-menefee3426 3 жыл бұрын
He is the absolute lad.
@dunkleosteusterrelli
@dunkleosteusterrelli Жыл бұрын
​@@LazyLoonz Not necessarily always the case but alright
@Enderspearl184
@Enderspearl184 3 жыл бұрын
He definitely cheated, he didn’t even drink coke and eat pizza during the runs!
@mwelchy9030
@mwelchy9030 3 жыл бұрын
Lol and you forgot to say he didn’t even do a whole school class and a exam while eating and speed running and editing and recording and streaming at the same time
@AmongusBalls65
@AmongusBalls65 3 жыл бұрын
*Badabun intensfies*
@georgethommen5434
@georgethommen5434 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, I see what you did there.
@blueflame4097
@blueflame4097 3 жыл бұрын
cause he has offcam
@C___________
@C___________ 3 жыл бұрын
That doesn't mean anything
@DarkViperAU
@DarkViperAU 3 жыл бұрын
I respect what you said at the beginning of the video about how you want to base your view on the hard numbers and that you took time to both understand them and present them in a way others can understand. I unfortunately didn't do this. I let my hatred of cheaters and character assessment of Dream's actions lead me to emotionally conclude he cheated. I accepted and held aloft the 1/7.5 trillion number, not because I understood it, but because I had respect for the mods for going to that kind of effort. I felt embarrassed that I was guided to quick judgement, and so retracted my confident declaration of Dream cheating. Since that retraction, seeing and reading more like the video you have presented, I feel more confident that my initial conclusions were corrected. I still argue I initially held them for wrong reasons though. Great video mate.
@pirry6792
@pirry6792 3 жыл бұрын
e B(
@Marnige
@Marnige 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, even if you're right initially, your reasons were wrong. You were brave to admit your mistakes.
@said7938
@said7938 3 жыл бұрын
thanks matto
@meatilicious1900
@meatilicious1900 3 жыл бұрын
Hey look, it's the gta guy!
@kaiwilliams5134
@kaiwilliams5134 3 жыл бұрын
Beans
@runk3216
@runk3216 3 жыл бұрын
Reading drama comment sections is like watching a fatal car crash, it’s terrible in every way imaginable but I can’t stop looking at it
@insomaniac1796
@insomaniac1796 3 жыл бұрын
Bcos its fun
@imvictorhugs
@imvictorhugs 3 жыл бұрын
@@insomaniac1796 i agree, fatal car crashes are very fun.
@insomaniac1796
@insomaniac1796 3 жыл бұрын
@@imvictorhugs cooks the meat just nice
@imvictorhugs
@imvictorhugs 3 жыл бұрын
@@insomaniac1796 true that.
@nostalgia5031
@nostalgia5031 3 жыл бұрын
I know. Except for the fact that I don't look at them very much.
@gwendolyn9699
@gwendolyn9699 3 жыл бұрын
I can't tell if this comment section is sarcastic or not. How do you spot fake ridiculousness in a sea of ridiculousness?
@deathrobloxian
@deathrobloxian 3 жыл бұрын
You don't. Sometimes you can't extrapolate from just the text on a screen.
@PlagueDocling
@PlagueDocling 3 жыл бұрын
stupid amount of emojiis is always a good sign
@koral4684
@koral4684 3 жыл бұрын
i dont know what the hell is going on. i came from mainly the dream smp fandom and i find this my recommend honestly this situation is really dumb in general.
@PlagueDocling
@PlagueDocling 3 жыл бұрын
@@koral4684 it is pretty dumb but dreams still a cheater who tried to get away with it - w -
@jajajajaja272
@jajajajaja272 3 жыл бұрын
@@PlagueDocling its a little rng change nothing more dont know why ur mad
@phrase4696
@phrase4696 3 жыл бұрын
But have they ever included his gaming chair in the equation tho?
@ayaanosaurasrex6582
@ayaanosaurasrex6582 3 жыл бұрын
7.5trillion ÷gaming chair =1 in one 1chance for dream
@gokaytaspnar1355
@gokaytaspnar1355 3 жыл бұрын
No because gaming chair doesn't effect luck But cheating does Edit : Someone deleted his reply And i know it is a joke
@phrase4696
@phrase4696 3 жыл бұрын
@@gokaytaspnar1355 my guy, pewdiepie's gaming chair gave him creative mode to get potatoes.
@imalaia8032
@imalaia8032 3 жыл бұрын
@@gokaytaspnar1355 r/wooosh
@nerfgunpng7552
@nerfgunpng7552 3 жыл бұрын
And his gamer socks. Those are also an important variable. There is also a high chance he had consumed _Mountain Dew Amp Game Fuel_ during these streams.
@SB737
@SB737 3 жыл бұрын
Information very well presented, everything was much easier to follow statistic wise compared to most other videos on this subject
@quackster8295
@quackster8295 3 жыл бұрын
Hey SB
@TheRussianGoose88
@TheRussianGoose88 3 жыл бұрын
You real?
@MattBonk991
@MattBonk991 3 жыл бұрын
SB
@enemykiller30
@enemykiller30 3 жыл бұрын
Heyo SB
@TechnicallyTaz
@TechnicallyTaz 3 жыл бұрын
hoi sb
@necwo698
@necwo698 3 жыл бұрын
Love the fact that Avengers had a better chance of defeating Thanos.
@mislavgrosinic5584
@mislavgrosinic5584 3 жыл бұрын
B R U H
@necwo698
@necwo698 3 жыл бұрын
@nicholas korte True but another example of Dream's absurd luck is like winning the lottery multiple times in a row.
@batcat2338
@batcat2338 3 жыл бұрын
AWESOME
@jaswanth3426
@jaswanth3426 3 жыл бұрын
@@lightknight1599 true
@agentboi4794
@agentboi4794 3 жыл бұрын
*D A Y U M*
@Chillbear47
@Chillbear47 2 жыл бұрын
As a minecraft player for 10 years, I can firmly say that Dream scripts most of his videos. What is disappointing is that he denies to admit it.
@diegosanchez3745
@diegosanchez3745 2 жыл бұрын
shoot, is that why there are all those videos out there titled something like "times when Dream should have died"? I knew it was all too good to be true
@Chillbear47
@Chillbear47 2 жыл бұрын
@@diegosanchez3745 Probably. When observing the setting and factors in which they are playing in, along with own experiences in similar near death situations. It does not take a genius to figure out that it is fake / an act.
@slicedleaf
@slicedleaf 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chillbear47 antfrost looks certain seeds to dream makes some trickshots at spawn and the clutches that dream makes, its understandable to people thought that dream scripts his video
@kimjongun154
@kimjongun154 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@alientation
@alientation 2 жыл бұрын
@@Chillbear47 then how do you explain the uncut manhunts? It's pretty hard to script. imo, he just attempts multiple manhunts and uploads the best one.
@morthostalisint1720
@morthostalisint1720 3 жыл бұрын
Karl Jobst + AntVenom = KNOWLEDGE
@ryangembitsky6893
@ryangembitsky6893 3 жыл бұрын
Karl Jobst I think did it the best by running trillions of iterations to see if it even got near dreams probability.... which it didn't
@frederikbrandt424
@frederikbrandt424 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryangembitsky6893 Both did a great job. Antvenom did a better job explaining the math behind the conclusions while Karl Jobst did a very good job of also using experiments to back up the math. Both videos are must watch if you want to understand the subject more clearly imo
@PengyDraws
@PengyDraws 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryangembitsky6893 It was just random people everywhere. Scratch coders, python coders, web devs, all ran simulations and none found his luck.
@Steerable6827
@Steerable6827 3 жыл бұрын
guys also Mathemaniac did an aaaammmmazing job with the math
@Steerable6827
@Steerable6827 3 жыл бұрын
karl jobst is an absolute legend
@murkish8268
@murkish8268 3 жыл бұрын
"Cheaters don't cheat to get a faster time, they cheat to get a time faster" -famous speedrun guy named karl
@calcv617
@calcv617 3 жыл бұрын
Karl
@TipOfTheSauce
@TipOfTheSauce 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@kato1kalin
@kato1kalin 3 жыл бұрын
Show some respect and credit Karl.
@Commielover69
@Commielover69 3 жыл бұрын
Karl Marx always was a speedrunner
@DrakeMystical
@DrakeMystical 3 жыл бұрын
Jobst
@bas2362
@bas2362 3 жыл бұрын
All these languages and you chose to speak facts
@samsungtv6184
@samsungtv6184 3 жыл бұрын
facts
@DamageMaximo
@DamageMaximo 3 жыл бұрын
*stock laugh
@moss5356
@moss5356 3 жыл бұрын
📠
@ConneRSensei
@ConneRSensei 3 жыл бұрын
Any Facts Speech lessons on SkillShare?
@progect3548
@progect3548 3 жыл бұрын
It’s my favourite language. Next to English.
@Cryptic.0_o
@Cryptic.0_o 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone who still has their doubts: This is the most generous interpretation I've seen. The voluntary inclusion of the previous streams (when he's not even being accused of cheating in those, massively oversizing the sample), the complete elimination of the last run to overcorrect for stopping bias, and the (frankly ridiculous) figure of 1000 average relevant runs per speedrunner are all extremely charitable assumptions. Due to the nature of statistics, all of these extensions undergo a compounding effect, making the final tally an unimaginably conservative number, and even then he almost certainly cheated.
@baconhair1565
@baconhair1565 2 жыл бұрын
You can't argue with ignorance. No matter what points you give, people are still going to legitimately believe that Dream didn't cheat.
@ItsMaddox
@ItsMaddox 2 жыл бұрын
@@baconhair1565 lol people like that are childish… literally children as well.
@beagrothus7916
@beagrothus7916 Жыл бұрын
@@baconhair1565 yes some peopel belive that the earth is flat Humans are just dumb and despicebel When they think they are right (atleast for most of them
@strebicux6174
@strebicux6174 3 жыл бұрын
I like how most of the "dream didn't cheat" people keep saying that we probably don't understand statistics well enough to make a conclusion. The hypocrisy lol
@Punched0
@Punched0 3 жыл бұрын
And "Dream isn't that kind of person he would never cheat or lie!"
@JaDiLoco
@JaDiLoco 3 жыл бұрын
@@Punched0 although I don’t think dream would cheat, after struggling to build up fame and study the KZfaq platform for his betterness, I’m sure he isn’t stupid enough to cheat.
@strebicux6174
@strebicux6174 3 жыл бұрын
@@JaDiLoco alright, but the fact of the matter is he cheated
@GTAandApplechannel
@GTAandApplechannel 3 жыл бұрын
@@JaDiLoco I think he did Cheated because of how he Response
@mingvuong2894
@mingvuong2894 3 жыл бұрын
@@JaDiLoco he keeps fucking lying about something as simple as his placing. "Why would I cheat for a 16th place run". "Why would I cheat for a 5th place run" His run was fucking 4th, and he was ALMOST FIRST. seriously if you can't be honest about something so unambiguous such as that, who knows what else you're lying about
@TalkingSoup
@TalkingSoup 3 жыл бұрын
it's like an older sibling being disappointed in a younger sibling
@grandre3464
@grandre3464 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@helpisonthewayalways
@helpisonthewayalways 3 жыл бұрын
this is THE comment
@josuastangl7140
@josuastangl7140 3 жыл бұрын
This!
@doubleback190xbox3
@doubleback190xbox3 3 жыл бұрын
Gah I’m the say way
@ember258
@ember258 3 жыл бұрын
Very true
@b-17theflyingfortress
@b-17theflyingfortress 3 жыл бұрын
You know it's getting out of hands when AntVenom start to talk about it.
@The_Galactic_War_Room
@The_Galactic_War_Room 3 жыл бұрын
Lol he got fired up at the end
@pasqually_
@pasqually_ 3 жыл бұрын
yo fr fr i forgot ab this man, time to watch some old ass vids 😂
@mortalsongs
@mortalsongs 3 жыл бұрын
@Alexander Castillo yeah cuz that's a good thing, some big figure determining another person's influence/platform on the internet
@birdsayshello
@birdsayshello 3 жыл бұрын
@Alexander Castillo and what if he defends dream, is he uncancelled now?
@harry3736
@harry3736 3 жыл бұрын
@@birdsayshello it will be the meme of the century, but it s mot going to happen tho why bother?
@kleck3846
@kleck3846 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone: talking about if a green telletubbie man changed some code in a block videogame Me: only watches the videos to hear Lemmino's cipher
@lukidon8715
@lukidon8715 3 жыл бұрын
A cultured man
@FBIAgent-bs9ie
@FBIAgent-bs9ie 3 жыл бұрын
then just... listen to the song..?
@lukidon8715
@lukidon8715 3 жыл бұрын
@@FBIAgent-bs9ie silence, commenter
@marissahicks3529
@marissahicks3529 3 жыл бұрын
Hey that’s insulting to the Teletubbies. Leave Twinky-Winky, Dipsy, Lala, and Po outta this :((((
@bluauber409
@bluauber409 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao nice
@peripheralzx11
@peripheralzx11 3 жыл бұрын
You know, as they say. “If you chain infinite monkeys each to a typewriter linked to a computer, one of them will eventually cheat at a minecraft speedrun”
@querimoniouslimner8081
@querimoniouslimner8081 3 жыл бұрын
umineko?
@peripheralzx11
@peripheralzx11 3 жыл бұрын
@@querimoniouslimner8081 this came out as “black tailed gull” in google translate
@dunkleosteusterrelli
@dunkleosteusterrelli Жыл бұрын
it doesn't translate at all for me^
@popgirl8studios
@popgirl8studios 3 жыл бұрын
"He spat in the face of 500 other hardworking individuals who legitimately worked for their accomplishments" The guy with a 6-hour run: haha yes
@json9865
@json9865 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@noonesarino7913
@noonesarino7913 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Hey he still work for it dude Plus 6 hours that a ton of time But The top speedrunners tho yeah He spat at their faces
@popgirl8studios
@popgirl8studios 3 жыл бұрын
@@noonesarino7913 I probably couldn't do it in 6 hours lol
@jamyreaf
@jamyreaf 3 жыл бұрын
the longest run now is over 21 hours lmaoo
@d39street66
@d39street66 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's funny that people will actually go for the longest possible times they can get. Like on Forza Rivals you can see people with 48 minute times as your starting rival (where the average lap for the class is probably around 1 minute). It's surprisingly popular to make things drag on for outrageous periods of time.
@user-sr4be2me7m
@user-sr4be2me7m 3 жыл бұрын
This comment is on basically every drama video, but I wouldn’t recommend turning newest comments first on
@fuwu9904
@fuwu9904 3 жыл бұрын
Just did
@moss5356
@moss5356 3 жыл бұрын
æ
@hellothere5124
@hellothere5124 3 жыл бұрын
Should've listened to you.
@soleil6485
@soleil6485 3 жыл бұрын
WHY DID I DO WHAT YOU TOLD US NOT TO DO
@p1x3lpl4yz
@p1x3lpl4yz 3 жыл бұрын
Hi miku
@_____________7585
@_____________7585 3 жыл бұрын
And this is why Stal is the best music disc in Minecraft
@loop5720
@loop5720 3 жыл бұрын
As I heard the song, I felt in my heart, "noice.", Then I saw your comment instantly, verry noice
@colegilliam2379
@colegilliam2379 3 жыл бұрын
@@loop5720 kinda weird but okay dude
@Frank_Robbins
@Frank_Robbins 3 жыл бұрын
y name llon
@elijah5989
@elijah5989 3 жыл бұрын
Jschlatt is fuming at this
@corz299
@corz299 3 жыл бұрын
Stal is a legendary disc
@redryder3721
@redryder3721 3 жыл бұрын
Hi people sorting by newest. The newest comments I see don't look that bad, most people agree with the video or they're just discussing things. Have a nice day.
@bagel_dev
@bagel_dev 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@lightedtwice
@lightedtwice 3 жыл бұрын
Epic
@yeafu1924
@yeafu1924 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@_____________7585
@_____________7585 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a lot of people straight up just saying "He's just that lucky" unironically
@alexander_bone
@alexander_bone 3 жыл бұрын
Little did he know a few comments after his Consist of many bad fellows Also some good fellows as well
@ignemuton5500
@ignemuton5500 3 жыл бұрын
the best thing to come out of this drama is that more people were introduced to lemmino :)
@FeedMyBalls
@FeedMyBalls 3 жыл бұрын
introduced? more like a welcome back lol
@stxrcatphantom9798
@stxrcatphantom9798 3 жыл бұрын
@@FeedMyBalls I had been following Lemmino all the way back when his channel was still called Top 10 Memes. This whole situation was stressful but it's nice to return to such a good content creator. :)
@FeedMyBalls
@FeedMyBalls 3 жыл бұрын
@@stxrcatphantom9798 yeahh, its a tradition coming back to his videos lol
@lessalazar9068
@lessalazar9068 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when he did rage comics lmao
@yui3886
@yui3886 3 жыл бұрын
@@stxrcatphantom9798 it was called Top 10 memes, not top 10 facts
@hellraiderpl559
@hellraiderpl559 3 жыл бұрын
Minecraft is a game for: - kids - teens - adults - boys - girls - astrophysicists
@omarthewizard1344
@omarthewizard1344 3 жыл бұрын
Even mans
@Danstry
@Danstry 3 жыл бұрын
the video just came out and this guy already has a banger comment
@christmasgrinch4017
@christmasgrinch4017 3 жыл бұрын
Add homeless blobs
@hellraiderpl559
@hellraiderpl559 3 жыл бұрын
@@Danstry I've never clicked in the notification so fast... First like, first comment.
@lunerslayer8997
@lunerslayer8997 3 жыл бұрын
True
@yinyangsepticruski
@yinyangsepticruski 3 жыл бұрын
I am starting to regret pressing the newest first button...
@vigosaurus4665
@vigosaurus4665 3 жыл бұрын
Karl Jobst: *Ran simulations* AntVenom: *Much more in depth calculation* Mathemaniac: *Pointing out dream's document problems* Dream: "well i didn't cheat tho, that's my proof"
@mayflooer5454
@mayflooer5454 3 жыл бұрын
dream obsessive fans: OMG DREAMS PROOF IS SO CONVINCING
@TheIrrelevantYT
@TheIrrelevantYT 3 жыл бұрын
anti-dream obsessive fans: we're gonna leak your house address just for a faked speedrun
@TheIrrelevantYT
@TheIrrelevantYT 3 жыл бұрын
@Zach Honestly, I have no clue. I think it's just people hitching onto the fame train to take him down, as all asshats do. The impossible speedrun was the opportunity.
@HusbandofLois
@HusbandofLois 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget "the speedrun mods are kids, I PAID an EXPERT"
@piko7231
@piko7231 3 жыл бұрын
​@@HusbandofLois an "expert" that doesn't even know what minecraft is
@chromaaf8863
@chromaaf8863 3 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta until antvenom is 100% serious
@insectbite1714
@insectbite1714 3 жыл бұрын
Copief
@justjazznow5817
@justjazznow5817 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@KeyboardMoment
@KeyboardMoment 3 жыл бұрын
@@insectbite1714 copied
@chuahseongteik4488
@chuahseongteik4488 3 жыл бұрын
The speedrun moderator gangsta until people start getting serious about the drama
@brett_webber233
@brett_webber233 3 жыл бұрын
@@insectbite1714 according to your logic, Your comment is also copied
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67
@ihavetowait90daystochangem67 3 жыл бұрын
It won’t matter in the end anyways, MoistCritikal just started speed running Minecraft like he just speedrun Mr Krabs Overdoses on Ketamine three weeks ago
@hijacked6663
@hijacked6663 3 жыл бұрын
Mt krabs overdoses on WHAT
@2bluedragons492
@2bluedragons492 3 жыл бұрын
@@hijacked6663 It's a dumb spongsbob fan game. EasySpeesy explained it better
@spacecactus2788
@spacecactus2788 3 жыл бұрын
@@hijacked6663 Mr Krabs Overdoses on Ketamine and Dies
@ethanwmonster9075
@ethanwmonster9075 3 жыл бұрын
when hes done all that is wrong will become right again, he is jesus.
@countingwithjerold
@countingwithjerold 3 жыл бұрын
cr1tikal could beat minecraft in the time it takes to make a new world
@Melecie
@Melecie 3 жыл бұрын
The Five Stages of Dream Fan Grief: 1. *Denial* "Why would Dream cheat? He's so good he has no reason to cheat!" 2. *Anger* "You are all clout chasers jealous of Dream's skill!" 3. *Bargaining* "It may be tiny, but it's still feasible, thus Dream is not cheating." 4. *Depression* "But if Dream cheated, I shouldn't watch him anymore and that's bad!" 5. *Acceptance* "Dream cheated, but I can still enjoy his content."
@chaosincarnate7304
@chaosincarnate7304 3 жыл бұрын
Me but only 4 and 5 with 3 being neutral.
@SirKarlIsTheMod
@SirKarlIsTheMod 3 жыл бұрын
And me a swiss (history joke)
@damncat2793
@damncat2793 3 жыл бұрын
Stans will never belive it
@W4rgalactic
@W4rgalactic 3 жыл бұрын
6. DREAM HAS COMMITED MINECRAFT WAR CRIME AND NOW SHALL HAVE DEATH PENALTY!
@Melecie
@Melecie 3 жыл бұрын
@@W4rgalactic nah, that's a thought process of toxic haters
@diamondmario64
@diamondmario64 3 жыл бұрын
You honestly sound the most calm out of everyone. It's much more understandable when you explain it, instead of those other people getting frustrated while talking.
@rebelscum1925
@rebelscum1925 3 жыл бұрын
Antvenom: I leave you guessing at what my opinion is Also Antvenom 10 seconds later: *gives his opinion*
@carabondish
@carabondish 3 жыл бұрын
the pause button: im I a joke to you?
@FroyourHistory
@FroyourHistory 3 жыл бұрын
Nice profile pic
@coolfred9083
@coolfred9083 3 жыл бұрын
@Alexander Castillo Huh?
@birdsayshello
@birdsayshello 3 жыл бұрын
@@coolfred9083 dont not question him
@rebelscum1925
@rebelscum1925 3 жыл бұрын
@HBegaming YT I appreciate your message but I never said that he can't have an opinion. I formated my comment as a joke. Never did I intend to imply with my message that him having an opinion is wrong
@Sudupe16
@Sudupe16 3 жыл бұрын
I expected this video to be Ant Venom saying why he doesn't like the drama, not a video completely destroying Dream with the math.
@edgelord8337
@edgelord8337 3 жыл бұрын
Never seen him like this. It's kinda scary.
@ShauMapping
@ShauMapping 3 жыл бұрын
Dream is his dream - being a cheater.
@blurple9806
@blurple9806 3 жыл бұрын
@Gamer7Games your nickname is more cringe
@blurple9806
@blurple9806 3 жыл бұрын
@@ShauMapping why would somone dream about being a cheater lol, you seem like this type of dream hater who will not shut up about dream cheating despite not knowing what any of this math means
@SIX16ful
@SIX16ful 3 жыл бұрын
You realize he didn’t make the video for that video you can form ur own opinions but don’t push it as if ant made the video to trash on dream
@user-tz5bv3yi7n
@user-tz5bv3yi7n 3 жыл бұрын
Bro I regret pressing the "Newest first" button
@phlobby
@phlobby 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, antvenom still uploads? I used to be a sub, in another lifetime. Back in 2013 I unfollowed all my minecraft youtubers when I hit high school. Glad to see you're still kicking, I think I'll be returning that sub now
@falsecides
@falsecides 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome back
@last5832
@last5832 3 жыл бұрын
Ayyyy
@IInferno
@IInferno 3 жыл бұрын
I love how lemmino's cipher is now an iconic "myth-busting" song.
@ricey6667
@ricey6667 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know where it comes from?
@zachyper
@zachyper 3 жыл бұрын
Same thing I was thinking
@sourceeee
@sourceeee 3 жыл бұрын
I know, I love it. its a very good song on its own too
@IInferno
@IInferno 3 жыл бұрын
@@sourceeee agreed
@rurall
@rurall 3 жыл бұрын
@@ricey6667 the Cicada-3301 video from Lemmino
@radpas1213
@radpas1213 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone do be using LEMMINOs Cipher doe, its a good song choice ngl. Edit: Didn't thought i'd get this many likes lol, thx anyway.
@mmmair
@mmmair 3 жыл бұрын
I hope he releases a new video soon
@user-lh5hl4sv8z
@user-lh5hl4sv8z 3 жыл бұрын
yeah it’s cool cicada 3301 is sus mystersus ???? What sound Ok dundundundundundun hahahhahahahaha it cool but Not original why not Original music From the ciphering OF the mystery Post
@user-lh5hl4sv8z
@user-lh5hl4sv8z 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 1 month old
@arielxyz5400
@arielxyz5400 3 жыл бұрын
Where is the cipher being used, I guess I am not observant enough to see it.
@runicevan5624
@runicevan5624 3 жыл бұрын
I have it set as my ringtone
@yin3229
@yin3229 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine disliking a video based on pure statistics because it insults your personal view of your Minecraft youtuber idol.
@elainasynranelt
@elainasynranelt 3 жыл бұрын
antvenom: presents math Dislikers: **wild incoherent screaching**
@LazyLoonz
@LazyLoonz 3 жыл бұрын
Yea but this isn't the only reason why I don't like Dream, other reason because Glow Squid and how he mislead his community for voting for it, also hes been selling his merch for super high prices in a website that he gets 100% of the profit and the merch is literally just his icon.
@LazyLoonz
@LazyLoonz 3 жыл бұрын
I love AntVenom but Dream, I just don't see a reason to like him, sure hes a good minecraft player but being popular you will need more then just skills.
@catandcomparator
@catandcomparator 3 жыл бұрын
@@LazyLoonz I 100% agree with you
@christineella1239
@christineella1239 3 жыл бұрын
@@LazyLoonz idk if he cheated or not like idgaf about any of it, but i like dream bc he’s funny and nice lmao, nd i just like his content, nd his merch isn’t even expensive it’s literally £30, like i’m fcking poor asf but that’s not expensive, most people’s merch is like way more than that so dk what ur going on about, nd yeah the money goes to him lmao who else is it gonna go to, donald trump? nd just bc it goes to him he gives away sm money like he does streams where he gives money to charity and he donates money to like lgbtq things and stuff like what😭
@drakesaunders738
@drakesaunders738 3 жыл бұрын
2^48. That's around 2.8147 * 10^14 or 281470000000000. With this number updating 100,000 time per second for piglin trades it would take 781861.1111 hours for the ring value to rollover. For the blazes, which update roughly 25 times per tic. It would take 3127444444.4 hours to rollover. That's 35799.5 YEARS. That's almost double the time it has been science the last great ice age.
@ramenkaiju
@ramenkaiju 3 жыл бұрын
That’s insane, I honestly hope the dream stans see this.
@ramenkaiju
@ramenkaiju 3 жыл бұрын
It’s still hard to wrap my mind around how long that would take lmao. Like how many days are in a billion seconds compared to the days in a million seconds
@paulliu8502
@paulliu8502 3 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Lemmino just got his 3rd request to use his soundtrack he intended for a video about cicada 3301
@cro4194
@cro4194 3 жыл бұрын
exactly lol
@user-de8ue5cs6s
@user-de8ue5cs6s 3 жыл бұрын
And more from smaller content creators no doubt
@10ua1
@10ua1 3 жыл бұрын
You don't need to ask for permission. On his music website it states that anyone may use his music as long as they credit him and the song name and optionally the link to the song in the description.
@alessandromarchetti2766
@alessandromarchetti2766 3 жыл бұрын
What are the other two? I heard it in another video some days ago but i can't for the life of me remember which video it was
@arielxyz5400
@arielxyz5400 3 жыл бұрын
@@alessandromarchetti2766 dream and geosquare but read the comment above yours
@chungo.
@chungo. 3 жыл бұрын
"That's like, a 1 in 3 chance at that point" - Dunkey
@realtimestatic
@realtimestatic 3 жыл бұрын
I mean this Bill Guy science guy gotta be right tho
@maxderholzrusse7301
@maxderholzrusse7301 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yes dunkey the true professor of.. literally everything
@AngryMax
@AngryMax 3 жыл бұрын
"dream would never lie, unlike these moderators who are extremely biased and perform evil deeds every day"
@eaglearcher3911
@eaglearcher3911 3 жыл бұрын
@@AngryMax atleast be open I don’t believe dream cheated and I know if he did he will come out with it I’m trying to stay as neutral as I can
@gokaytaspnar1355
@gokaytaspnar1355 3 жыл бұрын
@@AngryMax oh yes , 1 in 900000000
@thwaxwrld
@thwaxwrld 3 жыл бұрын
your opinion is more valid than most opinion ever made by anyone on this situation
@whatifwaterwaschunky7199
@whatifwaterwaschunky7199 3 жыл бұрын
Is it though? What makes his opinion more valid than anybody else's opinion?
@theo4387
@theo4387 3 жыл бұрын
@@whatifwaterwaschunky7199 The fact that he has no bias and did the calculations right?
@kominatoriku5483
@kominatoriku5483 3 жыл бұрын
@@theo4387 so did they and the second one didnt get emotional in the video at all
@dragonbrendan314
@dragonbrendan314 3 жыл бұрын
What about karl jobst
@hanneswiggenhorn5748
@hanneswiggenhorn5748 3 жыл бұрын
"12/356 + 40/259 = 52/615" isnt a good opinion
@dexterhaxxor
@dexterhaxxor 3 жыл бұрын
To whoever says "i got 5 pearl trades in a row", yes, that happens. If you flip a coín 5 times, you have a small, but very real chance of getting all tails. If you flip a coin 6 times, your chance of getting all 6 tails is HALVED compared to the chance of you getting 5. Lets say you flipped your coin 100 times and got 75 tails. That is even more ridiculous, isn't it? Now imagine you had this EXACT SAME kind of luck on multiple streams. Doesn't it sound suspicious? Now imagine you had other streams where your luck was completely normal. Isn't that even more suspicious?
@valletas
@valletas 3 жыл бұрын
I think a better example is if it was a virtual coin like the ones on cellphone stores because luck with physicall objects can be manipulated easily if you get acostumed to their weight and you pain attention to the wind i know it because i learned how to manipulate coins and dices when i was in middle school Yea a pro can see it because of how absurd it is that a dice feel into 6 5 times in a row but for the casual player he doesnt see anything
@milkjug4237
@milkjug4237 3 жыл бұрын
@@valletas I always knew you could manipulate coin tosses with gravity
@Blaze6108
@Blaze6108 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the fundamental point is that the weird odds happened reliably through multiple long streams. The law of large numbers should dictate that after hundreds of instances, the odds should roughly even out to the programmed chances in the game (IE 50% for blaze rods), but they didn't. I like Dream's content but the evidence is stacked against him. I'm still unwilling to call it certainty, but let's say the probability that he cheated is orders of magnitude higher than that he didn't.
@oWest2
@oWest2 3 жыл бұрын
a coin flip is a 50/50, a piglin dropping pearls when bartering is 4%-5% (as stated in the video) its not the same. you can get tails on a coinflip 50% of the time, so its not as rare as a pearl piglin trade.
@dexterhaxxor
@dexterhaxxor 3 жыл бұрын
@@oWest2 And? That doesn't change my example in any way.
@fruityclouds2383
@fruityclouds2383 3 жыл бұрын
really needed a large creator to talk about this since the " hes only biased against dream for attention! " cant be used. Not saying you're biased against or for dream, just pointing that out
@koinodiscoqueen
@koinodiscoqueen 3 жыл бұрын
@Gamer7Games indeed like me in my dream has a better life than me
@danang5
@danang5 3 жыл бұрын
kinda hard since only a few people is actually bigger than dream,especially the one that have an interest in minecraft
@benjamin_luscombe
@benjamin_luscombe 3 жыл бұрын
Ibxtoycat also made a video becuase of it
@raspite3195
@raspite3195 3 жыл бұрын
It's disappointing how it even had to get to this point where larger creators are needed. The chances are so dumb high, and they say it's luck? 690 million at the very least.
@alexvolute7454
@alexvolute7454 3 жыл бұрын
@@danang5 only one I can think of is PopularMMOs
@bmil38
@bmil38 3 жыл бұрын
Minecraft speedrunning has reached American politics level
@TheRealJochen
@TheRealJochen 3 жыл бұрын
At least the community isn't trying to make the plague political.
@Mamenber
@Mamenber 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealJochen I got sick with the coronavirus... IN MINECRAFT?!? 😱😱😱
@mustardkrisame281
@mustardkrisame281 3 жыл бұрын
69 haha funy number, butt now is 70
@bobbywhite5319
@bobbywhite5319 3 жыл бұрын
If you consider how tribal most of these things are, it’s not a surprise
@chicagobigchungusbobungus8842
@chicagobigchungusbobungus8842 3 жыл бұрын
Dream is definitely acting like Trump ngl, ignoring facts and experts, finding unqualified people to shed doubt on accurate findings and personally attacking those who don’t like him when he’s run out of ways to manipulate the situation.
@fluffywhitellama4144
@fluffywhitellama4144 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised this video never gained as much attention as the others. It's nice and quiet here though, I like that
@d3rkkunz176
@d3rkkunz176 2 жыл бұрын
Because people go for the things they can handle most of dreams fans are kids stuborn kids its natural they wont go for litteral facts that dont go on their favor its just there kids
@ufodeath
@ufodeath 3 жыл бұрын
Dreams popularity is undeserved.
@Ascendion_Mine
@Ascendion_Mine 3 жыл бұрын
Ur ignorant too
@stevenx399
@stevenx399 3 жыл бұрын
@@KYSONSCHMIDT11 At the end of the day success mostly comes from luck
@nubnub6607
@nubnub6607 3 жыл бұрын
I agree he doesn’t deserve that much popularity I’m not saying he deserves no popularity but I’m saying less.
@nubnub6607
@nubnub6607 3 жыл бұрын
I mostly agree with you I hope a bunch of dream stans won’t just attack your comment Edit: it seems a bunch of dream stans actually did attack your comment
@ortherner
@ortherner 3 жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree at the same time
@ultraslanmc
@ultraslanmc 3 жыл бұрын
AntVenom: I hate this speedrun drama Lemmino: I love this speedrun drama
@naiknaik8812
@naiknaik8812 3 жыл бұрын
wait when did he say that
@heydudewhatdidudotomygarli5081
@heydudewhatdidudotomygarli5081 3 жыл бұрын
@@naiknaik8812 he didn't, OP is just implying that LEMMiNO likes the drama because almost all of the videos use his song, Cipher.
@bibbytenbillion
@bibbytenbillion 3 жыл бұрын
@@Repentance900 Half-Life: Blue Shift
@ChaosEnthusiast
@ChaosEnthusiast 3 жыл бұрын
oh no
@felixfischer6168
@felixfischer6168 3 жыл бұрын
@@heydudewhatdidudotomygarli5081 i wonder how he feels about all these videos using his songs
@twansigmond4509
@twansigmond4509 3 жыл бұрын
Lol plot twist... antvenom is the anonymous Harvard professor
@Fabelaz
@Fabelaz 3 жыл бұрын
Well, he does use wolframalpha like.. at least a student
@Speedpunk650
@Speedpunk650 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fabelaz The fact that 164 people liked the comment above yours compared to your 2 likes says that almost nobody here is an old fan of Game Theory and know what Wolframalpha is and how to use it
@Fabelaz
@Fabelaz 3 жыл бұрын
@@Speedpunk650 are you talking about channel "game theory" or the field of study? because either way I see no connection. My comment was made from my personal experience studying in university.
@kjp-sy8uf
@kjp-sy8uf 3 жыл бұрын
probably is tbh, but whatever that professor has it definitely isn't a Harvard degree
@Vincent-pz3bc
@Vincent-pz3bc 3 жыл бұрын
can sonmeone link the original speedrun please? no one lists sources on their videos .
@pdgameplay2955
@pdgameplay2955 3 жыл бұрын
Dream cheated
@quakeknight9680
@quakeknight9680 3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@cactusmusic1080
@cactusmusic1080 3 жыл бұрын
yes he did
@chroma_toaster3910
@chroma_toaster3910 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, if AntVenom says you cheated, then you’re in fuckin trouble
@troyeze
@troyeze 3 жыл бұрын
Karl Jobst did too
@jetstarfishLIVE
@jetstarfishLIVE 3 жыл бұрын
the “dream speedrun cheating” videos have a theme song now...
@TubbsCustard
@TubbsCustard 3 жыл бұрын
Lmaoooo i noticed too 😂
@Ranboso
@Ranboso 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimterrence8369 imitate him? Antvenom has been doing these style of videos for years now
@ekinrav
@ekinrav 3 жыл бұрын
U r the man
@Rekter
@Rekter 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimterrence8369 Dude, AntVenom has been around far longer than Dream has. I don’t even watch either of them and I know that. If anything, Dream could be a dollar store AntVenom.
@jetstarfishLIVE
@jetstarfishLIVE 3 жыл бұрын
@@deleted-user-82u3ht92 lol ok
@rankingeverydoctorwhostory8756
@rankingeverydoctorwhostory8756 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched Minecraft KZfaq on and off for nine years now, and of all the video makers I've come across, I consider you (and PeteZahHutt) to be the most genuine people with the most integrity and the best of intentions. This video was very well put together and clearly comes not from a desire to put anyone down or gain clout, but from a genuine concern for the integrity of something you care about, and I appreciate that a lot.
@davidgumazon
@davidgumazon 3 жыл бұрын
9 years wow that's Herobrine Era, me for 6 years
@Pro.Gamer10
@Pro.Gamer10 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidgumazon I’ve played Minecraft for 9 years also, followed all the updates all the way to 1.17
@eugenelevin9809
@eugenelevin9809 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, CaptainSparklez?
@derpynerdy6294
@derpynerdy6294 3 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Preston then unspeakable in 2015 then defib, tapL and technoblade in 2017 then then got interested by ant venoms documentary style in 2018 :)
@jdirksen
@jdirksen 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidgumazon back when pistons were a mod and food instantly healed
@deenreviews
@deenreviews 3 жыл бұрын
Even though I understood the math from the geosquare and dream video. This video was presented in a less sloppy fashion that makes it easier for other people to understand. Great vid ant
@mingvuong2894
@mingvuong2894 3 жыл бұрын
1) dream was directly at crime scene, only one that can manipulate RNG 2) motive to be seen as good Minecraft player is definitely there, literally his entire fame is based on his minecraft skills 3) one other obvious motive is that he is a speedrunner (duh). They literally spend hours upon hours trying to get a good time 4) he complained directly about the EXACT 2 items - pearls and blaze rods for this version of minecraft. Literally not a single other item in the run had above average drop rate. 5) sample size is huge - 300+ kills and 240 trades. All maintained 70% drop rate and 16% barter rate for 24 hours straight, not a single drop in rate for 24 hours 6) many lies about mod team slandering him (even though all objective facts and video was demonetized). Billy Mitchell level attacks. 6) there are 80k viewers on twitch when he streams speedrunning, that's ALOT OF MONEY, even potentially higher than any single yt video for 24 hours of streams 7) says run is 16th place or even 5th place. Big lie, run was 4th place and on pace for WR by over a minute (simply missed one single pearl) 8) debunked paper with fake math and stats Liar check Crime scene check Motive check 1 in 20 sextillion chance check Literally Epstein has less proof than this lmao But please, go and Stan and say nO prOoF. After all, it is your choice to reject reality.
@BIGDUCKHUNTFAN
@BIGDUCKHUNTFAN 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but if I say "no he didn't" it completely invalidates anything you, ant, geo, or Karl say, right?
@itsfadixx
@itsfadixx 3 жыл бұрын
Ur just straight malding irl 😂💀
@mingvuong2894
@mingvuong2894 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsfadixx 12ie dream stans in a nutshell
@arkenbulkxd3889
@arkenbulkxd3889 3 жыл бұрын
Dawg, AntVenom literally debunked the claims of it being 1 in 20 sextillion. And did you even see the video Dream made?
@mingvuong2894
@mingvuong2894 3 жыл бұрын
@@arkenbulkxd3889 1/20 sextillion are the pure odds per 1 run / try. The numbers of trillion are taking into account not just 1 run but the entire population (e.g. 1.5 million runs).. I mean if you can't understand that and think the number was "debunked" you probably need to revisit high school maths (looks like you haven't even finished high school though) Your own Dweam admitted he cheated on Twitter LMAO but he knows people don't have enough of a brain
@Nugcon
@Nugcon 3 жыл бұрын
The only speedrun that matters is Mr Krabs overdoses on ketamine
@TruthShaIIWin
@TruthShaIIWin 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and the only speedrunner that matters is Critikal
@UniquenessOnion
@UniquenessOnion 3 жыл бұрын
That is true indeed
@TooWahh
@TooWahh 3 жыл бұрын
Hell yea
@malnivek3279
@malnivek3279 3 жыл бұрын
true
@Sehtareh
@Sehtareh 3 жыл бұрын
Obviously
@arneshpal7702
@arneshpal7702 3 жыл бұрын
Remember when Minecraft was a peaceful game where u would watch PopularMMOs DanTDM and be scared of Herobrine
@racer927
@racer927 3 жыл бұрын
I still have fond memories of just wandering those massive cave systems, particularly when the whimsical half of "Mice On Venus" started playing.
@SergeantShades760
@SergeantShades760 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget stampy!
@chevycruz8072
@chevycruz8072 3 жыл бұрын
And watching stampy’s lovely world with his friends and Aphmau’s crazy roleplay
@antmanearth6165
@antmanearth6165 3 жыл бұрын
now Dan's a father and pat had covid
@auslander1776
@auslander1776 3 жыл бұрын
Captainsparkelz with Mianite
@willowwhisp3550
@willowwhisp3550 3 жыл бұрын
dream is horrendously bad at responding to controversy can we all agree on that at least
@kennethha416
@kennethha416 3 жыл бұрын
true as a dream fan like bruh
@dester3275
@dester3275 3 жыл бұрын
I personally think dream cheated in the speed run but I understand why he would react that way. I would freak out too if I was getting cancelled.
@ramenkaiju
@ramenkaiju 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes we can
@mostlywholesome
@mostlywholesome 3 жыл бұрын
@@dester3275 and doxxed
@falsecides
@falsecides 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@awesomeavery1015
@awesomeavery1015 3 жыл бұрын
the cheating is so annoying, but as someone who used to be a fan, you know what pisses me off most? he lied to and manipulated his ENTIRE fanbase. he wouldn’t have lied if he didn’t think he’d get away with it. he knew he could play the victim and his young impressionable audience would believe him. he used his fanbase as stepping stones for his own personal gain. he should stop defending his fans if all he does is lie to them and play the victim. i wish this was all fabricated and i wish he was innocent but i know is not. i’m just disappointed
@lookatthisdude6946
@lookatthisdude6946 3 жыл бұрын
Same bro
@cpctheshinymew5381
@cpctheshinymew5381 3 жыл бұрын
In what way did he lie?
@lookatthisdude6946
@lookatthisdude6946 3 жыл бұрын
@@cpctheshinymew5381 lied about cheating
@harithdaniel516
@harithdaniel516 3 жыл бұрын
lmao i used to be his stan last year wtf not a great memories
@gamerguy6495
@gamerguy6495 3 жыл бұрын
so...an old speed runner re-awakens to try and set things straight in the community. your the best antvenom.
@yurifurtado1955
@yurifurtado1955 3 жыл бұрын
"Fine, I will do it myself"
@literallylegendary6594
@literallylegendary6594 3 жыл бұрын
his the best antvenom is what (maybe you meant you're instead of your)
@ryandriemeyer7606
@ryandriemeyer7606 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone is talking about higher than average odds, but I call for an investigation of my below average odds :(
@shale3140
@shale3140 3 жыл бұрын
F
@legamerfish49
@legamerfish49 3 жыл бұрын
F
@professorcube5104
@professorcube5104 3 жыл бұрын
F
@fracazer
@fracazer 3 жыл бұрын
so true, my luck suck on video games. Last time I was playing a mobile game that was about upgrading weapon and stuff and the higher lvl the weapon is the lower ihe chance of upgrading it, I was on a weapon lvl 1 that has 95% of a successful upgrade, I fal 10 times in row, my friend tried once and succeed.... I deleted the game 10 sec after (that's just ONE example, I have so many example of thing like this: when I only have 200 win on "the bridge" on hypixel the game decided to make me play against the top 1 leaderboard player, some day later I had to play against the top 8, bc of rage I change server and I play "The bridge" on Lunar server and I encounter the SAME top 8 of hypixel on it.... That was my 4th and last game on "The bridge" on lunar server)
@arkajyotipal6205
@arkajyotipal6205 3 жыл бұрын
F
@dittotech3878
@dittotech3878 3 жыл бұрын
You are probably looking for people raging by looking at newest comments eh?
@maxwaine84
@maxwaine84 3 жыл бұрын
yessirrrrr
@dittotech3878
@dittotech3878 3 жыл бұрын
@@maxwaine84 lmfaoooo
@zitzak2794
@zitzak2794 3 жыл бұрын
i indeed am, intelligent sir
@Patrikv303
@Patrikv303 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, and having my proof of him cheating in my clipboard 👍
@parallax5922
@parallax5922 3 жыл бұрын
@@Patrikv303 Can I get that clipboard? I need to spam this too, but i dont feel like writing it myself
@Useless22
@Useless22 3 жыл бұрын
We all knew he cheated. Nobody cares if his challenges are fake because it’s just entertainment but when he tried to steal something from many hard working people that was the line.
@Marlin123
@Marlin123 3 жыл бұрын
Ok chill we don't exactly know he cheated but yeah he is distespectful just bouncing on here with a manhunt series and becoming the "best minecraft player"
@akryl1k
@akryl1k 3 жыл бұрын
@@Marlin123 He did cheat.
@awasdq7684
@awasdq7684 3 жыл бұрын
@@Marlin123 idk man pretty sure we got proof
@Marlin123
@Marlin123 3 жыл бұрын
@@awasdq7684 if you can understand a thing of what giosquare dream or antvenom said be my guest
@martinzachry2121
@martinzachry2121 3 жыл бұрын
@@awasdq7684 I mean, not to Stan Dream but technically we don’t have proof. Just a very high likelihood that something isn’t right.
@P0LAND
@P0LAND 3 жыл бұрын
I love facts
@paog4355
@paog4355 3 жыл бұрын
Pog (love your videos btw)
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding
@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding 3 жыл бұрын
Why did the entire country of Poland left a comment?
@hamsnadwich6767
@hamsnadwich6767 3 жыл бұрын
Why does the entire country of poland have a checkmark by it's name?
@PLK123
@PLK123 3 жыл бұрын
I love cyberpunk
@Lotl-Axo
@Lotl-Axo 3 жыл бұрын
Poland!
@masaesyli
@masaesyli 3 жыл бұрын
he didn't cheat. the piglins were just dream stans.
@kidflasher
@kidflasher 3 жыл бұрын
Understandable,have a nice day
@vi7089
@vi7089 3 жыл бұрын
Yah makes sense until you realise there weren't any children
@ARCHIVED9610
@ARCHIVED9610 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@grapesoda4281
@grapesoda4281 3 жыл бұрын
@@vi7089 very bold assumption to make that most of dreams viewers are children and not teens or adults.
@josealexanderrodriguez
@josealexanderrodriguez 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahaha
@nickhultz3080
@nickhultz3080 3 жыл бұрын
I think I should give my opinion on this subject. I should start off by saying, I have a lot of respect for Dream as a creator. This does create a bias, but my opinion in the end still doesn’t favor him. Whether he cheated or not, he genuinely cares for his fans, friends, and family. I know this makes me sound like a Stan, I’m not. I don’t even particularly like his Manhunts, they are way too repetitive for me. My respect comes from what I’ve seen from other creators. He purposefully doesn’t stream the SMP so other creators can grow. I’ve seen him donate thousands to his friends during streams (Benex, Hannah rose, Antfrost, Ranboo) telling them what they mean to him. I also once watched an HBomb livestream where he was talking about how he spent his money, and how most of it goes to his family. He had also repeatedly supported his “stans”. I respect him for all of that. But now comes my opinion. He cheated. Of course it’s never going to be 100% sure he did, but the numbers have never been with him. One of the first things you learn in any statistics classes is that they can prove ANY point. Statistics can go on and on adding in more and more questionable variables to help you. With Dreams obviously biased PhD response, not only did the math become immediately debunked, it only got the chances down to 1 in 100 million. His own biased mathematician couldn’t get it lower than that. And while math should be the primary evidence, context helps. Dream complained for months on streams, Twitter, and more about how 1.16 speedruns were just luck based. It all depended on better perfect luck, because of more RNG mechanics involved such as piglins and rarer fortresses. Not only that, his 5 extra 1.16 speedruns that were neglected in mods response were left out because they happened WAY before the ones with the high numbers. So why would speedruns and live-streams not associated with the group of 6 be included in the math? Once again, it will never be 100% confirmed if Dream cheated or not, but chances are that he did. Hate still should not go to any side.
@ashyknees1107
@ashyknees1107 3 жыл бұрын
If everyone said he cheated, he cheated. I don’t care how nice of a person he is, not only did he lie to his fan base, he lied to his friends.
@Ezper-2099
@Ezper-2099 3 жыл бұрын
i agree that he cheated but I watch him anyway, I thinl hes a good content creator
@admiralgree3873
@admiralgree3873 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video covering the probability of success in the fastest speedrun? I'm actually really curious to see what the numbers are. We don't really have anything to compare Dream's numbers to, and I think it would add a lot of context. ( I know Dream cheated, but also think a video on other speedruns' likelihoods would be interesting )
@mysterpapo
@mysterpapo 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite part of this whole drama is that more people are using the banger of a track cipher is.
@Driga_
@Driga_ 3 жыл бұрын
Lemmino makes awesome music
@ARCHIVED9610
@ARCHIVED9610 3 жыл бұрын
i just caught a bibarel in pokemon platinum with an oran berry when i started this video. this is unrelated but its awesome because i love berries
@Driga_
@Driga_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@ARCHIVED9610 well... Thanks, I guess?
@Sushininja10
@Sushininja10 3 жыл бұрын
Same. Lemmino is one of my favorite KZfaq channels, and I love that track.
@gdthelastgame6734
@gdthelastgame6734 3 жыл бұрын
You know you fucked up when AntVenom himself is mad and disappointed
@alexander_bone
@alexander_bone 3 жыл бұрын
In the opinions section Ant seems almost pissed by the cheating I’ve have never seen ant give off a vibe that bad
@TheLastGame666
@TheLastGame666 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexander_bone he IS pissed
@crazyfire9470
@crazyfire9470 Жыл бұрын
He certainly seems more prone to anger then previously at least to me
@AwfulWeather5684
@AwfulWeather5684 3 жыл бұрын
guys, don't be angry at dream. He's not the type of guy to cheat. Is what I would have said, if I didn't think he cheated
@PlagueDocling
@PlagueDocling 3 жыл бұрын
*they had us in the first half not gonna lie*
@orion_paxx
@orion_paxx 3 жыл бұрын
honestly, given how dream acts im not surprised he cheated
@briannam1082
@briannam1082 3 жыл бұрын
Browsing the newest comment section makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
@slogyourgrogyouoldseadog
@slogyourgrogyouoldseadog 3 жыл бұрын
We won't go quietly, the dream stans can count on that.
@anaon7025
@anaon7025 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no, how terrible. A bunch of nerds fighting another bunch of nerds.
@tasticgaming8823
@tasticgaming8823 3 жыл бұрын
Facts don’t care about your feelings
@plugin7184
@plugin7184 3 жыл бұрын
facts.
@atcampbell123
@atcampbell123 3 жыл бұрын
AntVenom DESTROYS dream with FACTS and LOGIC
@t-sch.3597
@t-sch.3597 3 жыл бұрын
@Alpha Centauri smoll brain
@blizzard3337
@blizzard3337 3 жыл бұрын
@@atcampbell123 Dream can't fool us being specific in logics, rng rates also chances.
@hexx6120
@hexx6120 3 жыл бұрын
Is your wife a doctor?
@WayTooAwesome
@WayTooAwesome 3 жыл бұрын
As someone with a statistical background myself, and a large interest in this issue. These are by far the most Dream favored numbers while still being realistic. For people watching this video, these numbers are basically as skewed to dream as they could be reasonably and his runs still comes to be this unlikely. I think that some people love telling parables of how unlikely numbers like this are, but honestly just weigh the probability in your head. How likely do you think it is that Dream could have cheated? 1 in a hundred, maybe 1 in a thousand, or even in a or 1 in a million? If you chose any of these it is much more likely Dream cheated than not.
@mr.lordstarscream1570
@mr.lordstarscream1570 3 жыл бұрын
And people say dream fakes his man hunts how stupid do you have to be to think dreams fakes his manhunts
@thrallion
@thrallion 3 жыл бұрын
I highly doubt you have a background in statistics... this video's analysis is legitimately horrendous. Anyone who has strong experience with statistics would immediately know this and wouldn't leave a comment like yours. So many things he didn't account for. The mod teams paper had errors but was overall a good effort, but this video is legitimately abysmal. Read Dream's response paper that he had an actual statician write up. That is BY FAR the best analysis of the numbers out there. Good lord it's so frustrating to see people write comments like yours, so confident yet so so wrong.
@horse7379
@horse7379 3 жыл бұрын
@@thrallion I think your just describing yourself..
@WayTooAwesome
@WayTooAwesome 3 жыл бұрын
​@@thrallion Dreams response video/paper has been shown to have undeniable errors (by more than just me) where it made the assumption that independence between runs did not exist. This led to an incorrect solution for correcting stopping bias which was the entire essence of the response paper. This is to say the basis of the criticism of the mods paper was a false claim and thus most of the paper is rendered void. Also I don't know what you classify as statistical experience but a bachelors in Statistics would at least put me above 95% of the public commenters, and due to the relative simplicity of the this scandal it is pretty easy to say that I have expertise. I am by no means saying that this video is perfect, but instead saying that the "errors" and simplifications made are all Dream favored by a significant margin.
@KamiRoxy
@KamiRoxy 3 жыл бұрын
@Hernando Malinche I want you to reread your statement again, slowly...and remember that we are talking about luck...have a good day
@PineappleSquuid
@PineappleSquuid 3 жыл бұрын
Bro I haven’t watched you in like 2 years and your channel is popping off! Congrats bro!
@bruhther6260
@bruhther6260 3 жыл бұрын
Why yes, I disagree with the video, the numbers, the facts and logic because I want to defend Dream by saying he did not cheat while providing little to no evidence. Math is dumb, Dream is right. Of course he is.
@imhafzee
@imhafzee 3 жыл бұрын
I hope that was a joke lol, new comments and yours make no difference lmfao, my brainnnnn
@ekaylor4104
@ekaylor4104 3 жыл бұрын
Based
@trystian8539
@trystian8539 3 жыл бұрын
@@imhafzee yeah this one's sarcastic, thank god
@Ezper-2099
@Ezper-2099 3 жыл бұрын
@@DigimonMaster2574 good
@ramenkaiju
@ramenkaiju 3 жыл бұрын
You genuinely scared me lmao I thought you where being legit serious
@Jane-qh2yd
@Jane-qh2yd 3 жыл бұрын
Once Karl and Ant come to get you, there is no point in running, just lay there and wait for the wolves to catch you
@bushboybilly6080
@bushboybilly6080 3 жыл бұрын
Karl Jobst and Small Ant?
@d4rtz745
@d4rtz745 3 жыл бұрын
@@bushboybilly6080 yup
@evilgoose6190
@evilgoose6190 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with that one.
@bushboybilly6080
@bushboybilly6080 3 жыл бұрын
@@visalarun5129 I was joking
@visalarun5129
@visalarun5129 3 жыл бұрын
@@bushboybilly6080 my bad
@TheMisterEpic
@TheMisterEpic 3 жыл бұрын
Solid video
@aceluckgame
@aceluckgame 3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@AR_Animates
@AR_Animates 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@lianmick5079
@lianmick5079 3 жыл бұрын
i just wish dream would just admit his fault but it is too late now im pretty sure but i hope that this drama will end in 2020 because i really like his content.
@bagua465
@bagua465 3 жыл бұрын
This and Karl Jobst's videos are the best videos on this topic besides the original Geosquare vid
@rayman4166
@rayman4166 3 жыл бұрын
Hey
@User-je7gf
@User-je7gf 3 жыл бұрын
AntVenom: 0:40 Also AntVenom: So that's why Eintein's theory of relativity is equal to 8 bit numbers combined into hash algorithms that then generate a random number corresponding to all life on the universe which then causes the world to tick only 8 times a second which will result into the 80 bit numbers of the hash algorithm to collapse and after the hash algorithm has collapsed the world will tick only 8 to the power of pi / 2 times a second which will then change the rng algorithm into 12 bit encrypted integers that will only change the RNG value of the blazes every 9 to 12 power of the circumference of the circle times to the amount of ticks per second. And that will result into the original 8 bit hashed numbers to change to 12 bit numbers which will then un collapse the originally collapsed hash algorithm resulting the world to change into the normal tick rate but because the blaze RNG is still corrupted it will result into the game thinking that the tick rate is 23 to the power of 9 which will cause the tick rate to go twice as low as it were which will then result into the blaze RNG generation only happening every 12 game ticks which will generate a random integer between the 8 bit hash algorithm and the 12 bit hash algorithm which will then cause the world tick speed to go above the integer limit which will then result into an exception catched by an empty catch block and that will result into the piglin RNG to go 3 times as high as normal. But that corruption will be changed after 2 rotations of the RNG generator which is about 0.0002 seconds and when the RNG will be reset back to normal the original 8 bit hash algorithm will rise once again. But as the original 8 bit algorithm is rising it will create a temporary copy of itself which due to the exception is never deleted like it should be which will then result into 2 identical 8 bit hash algorithms at the same time and the game will be confused of which to use and that will result into the piglin hp respawn rate to change to only 8/2 of its original value which will result into the world tick RNG generator to loop only every second which will then confirm Einstein's theory of relativity.
@WoobooRidesAgain
@WoobooRidesAgain 3 жыл бұрын
To put the odds of 1 in nearly 7 million into perspective, consider the following: On November 30th, 1954, Ann Elizabeth Fowler Hodges was asleep on her couch in Oak Grove, Alabama, when she became a significant note in astronomical history. A grapefruit sized stone struck her as she slept, causing bruising and minor injuries but proved to be non-fatal. The spherical stone was later determined to be a meteorite, which it is believed crashed through the roof of her farmhouse, bounced off a radio and struck her. This makes her the only confirmed person to have been directly injured as a result of a meteorite strike in all of human history. The stone which struck her was believed to be a fragment that broke off of a larger asteroid, 1685 Toro, a four-kilometer asteroid careening in an orbit through our solar system which sees it orbit the sun once every 587 years. This asteroid likely broke away from the asteroid belt, which formed very soon after the solar system did, making it over 4 billion years old. The odds that were stacked against that asteroid hitting and bruising Ann Hodges? Somewhere between 1 and 250,000 to 1 and 1,600,000. You are more likely to get a welt from a piece of space debris breaking off of an object that would have likely only ever been in the exact position to do so three or four times in the course of the history of all recorded human civilization than you are to get the exact results Dream has claimed he got through luck alone.
@Glornak
@Glornak 3 жыл бұрын
I think the saddest part is that he's very entertaining and very skilled at the game. A good quote for this situation is from Karl Jobst. "Players don't cheat to get a better time. They cheat to get a better time faster". He was fully capable of getting his time but he didn't have the patience which is sorta understandable considering how impossibly unlikely it is to get the drops required.
@Glornak
@Glornak 3 жыл бұрын
@James Kraatz Dream has several legitimate records in Minecraft speed running that, so far, don't show any signs of cheating. He even held world records. It's just his most recent top ten time that's been thrown out for cheating.
@TheRealHelvetica
@TheRealHelvetica 3 жыл бұрын
@@Glornak all of Dream’s runs should honestly be thrown out due to him cheating.
@bruv7521
@bruv7521 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealHelvetica ah yes, because if you steal a dollar, all of your property should be taken
@Glornak
@Glornak 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealHelvetica I don't agree. While his other times in other categories should absolutely be scrutinized to the moon and back there's no good reason to toss otherwise legitimate records out. Just ban him from posting new times. Plus according to the moderators who pulled his time he had only been cheating recently and had normal drop rates in the first several streams.
@TheRealHelvetica
@TheRealHelvetica 3 жыл бұрын
Bruv stupid comparison from a stupid stan. It's standard practice on the speedrunning leaderboards for cheaters to have their previous runs expunged and invalidated when they're caught cheating.
@austincheng3324
@austincheng3324 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is not related to this video but today is the last day of Adobe flash games.
@welloffstream6716
@welloffstream6716 3 жыл бұрын
HOLY SIHR I FORGOT.
@pizzacream7
@pizzacream7 3 жыл бұрын
My childhood, nooooooo
@heyitsjustmejj
@heyitsjustmejj 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s still possible on other browsers
@bongcloudopening5404
@bongcloudopening5404 3 жыл бұрын
We had good memories They will be missed We shall honor our childhood
@rashira9610
@rashira9610 3 жыл бұрын
We can save the flash games. Dream cannot save his credibility.
@lordkab00m18
@lordkab00m18 2 жыл бұрын
i bet your scrolling to see dream stans
@ZachPlum
@ZachPlum 2 жыл бұрын
caught me
@Sam_Mckenzie
@Sam_Mckenzie Жыл бұрын
man can read my mind
@VGamFVG
@VGamFVG 3 жыл бұрын
It was all done and dusted when a computer ran a simulation trillions of times to see if it could achieve Dream's luck and it wasn't achieved a single time. Dream should just admit that he cheated, but at this point he made his response video which is fans ate up and now he's just gonna try sweep this under the rug.
@koekiejam18
@koekiejam18 3 жыл бұрын
I mean its still technicaly possible to do so in minecraft
@koekiejam18
@koekiejam18 3 жыл бұрын
@@RangerW36 statisticaly, dont get me wrong i feel absolutely nothing for this, i think speedrunning is the stupid anyway but what proof(damning proof no psychological analysis for example) is there besides this guy doing something with an extremely small change of happening?.
@samman9738
@samman9738 3 жыл бұрын
@@koekiejam18 I don’t think you truly understand how small the statistical chance of his luck happening is. It’s unfathomably small, you cannot imagine how small 1 in a million is, now try imagining how small 1 in 600 mil is. Sure you could say “it’s improbable but not impossible” however the chances are so unimaginably improbable that it can be concluded to be impossible.
@Buglin_Burger7878
@Buglin_Burger7878 3 жыл бұрын
We look up to the stars and see no other Earths, no other vibrant living planets to see if Earth could exist and we didn't see it a single time. We should just admit we don't exist. He probably did cheat... but how do you get around the above? The odds are far lower aren't they?
@koekiejam18
@koekiejam18 3 жыл бұрын
@@Buglin_Burger7878 if your still trying to convince me that he had astronomicaly low odds you have missed the point... all im saying that there is still a possibility he was actually lucky, surely if its that big a deal people could find some better evidence then making assumptopns no?
@enilair_2213
@enilair_2213 3 жыл бұрын
Once antvenom rolls out the big numbers, you know he's really dedicated in proving something
@ggothemadlad3064
@ggothemadlad3064 3 жыл бұрын
Once he uses them against you, you know you really messed up
@josephpaulson9495
@josephpaulson9495 3 жыл бұрын
*Initial allegations come out of Dream cheating* Everyone: "He cheated!" *Dream responds* Everyone: "Never mind, he didn't cheat." *r/statistics proves that both of them were wrong and Dream still cheated* Everyone: "He cheated!" *Commentary channels and people that collab with Dream say he didn't cheat* Everyone: "Never mind, he didn't cheat." *Antvenom literally just states what the facts are again* Everyone: "He cheated! Edit: Oh hey, I started a war in the comments section!
@emiliianoportillo1311
@emiliianoportillo1311 3 жыл бұрын
Why do people care about this so much. It's a god damn speedrun, dream is still going to rich at the end of the day, but Dream not admiting it is strange to me? What's the point, is he denying it out of pride? Honor or some other bs reason.
@itsducc0953
@itsducc0953 3 жыл бұрын
pretty much. its honestly disappointing.
@sradi5584
@sradi5584 3 жыл бұрын
@@emiliianoportillo1311 It's not just a speedrun cheating accusation now. He's a liar, a manipulative person and he has a young audience. I also heard he could get sued if he can't prove the Harvard guy for putting a bad light on Harvard
@Jechto1999
@Jechto1999 3 жыл бұрын
@@emiliianoportillo1311 Well I think as AntVenom said. People cared because Dream uploaded his speedrun as genuine and carefully planned how he was planning on attempting the cheat. And also his incessant denial of the cheating happening, he even went as far as to pay someone to write a report to try to prove he's innocent. And even still to this day claims it as legit. Despite evidence. This amount of pure denial and attempted gas-lighting of the MC-Speedrun community is likely what is making everybody so mad for so long.
@mysticalpancake1462
@mysticalpancake1462 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean "everyone"? I think you mean everyone as in, the average child who is a fan of Dreams, and has no understanding of statistics. In which case, yes, there has been a lot of flip flopping going on. Someone like myself who is bit older and has taken statistics? I knew that dream categorically cheated from the initial report, and there is unfortunately no defense Dream can possibly provide to change the facts.
@aasid2446
@aasid2446 3 жыл бұрын
The chances of a Stan not being a 10 year old are 1 in 7.5 trillion
@petrmatko6628
@petrmatko6628 3 жыл бұрын
C'mon, why do you have to steal comment ideas? Can't you figure out something on your own?
@ilavayou.
@ilavayou. 3 жыл бұрын
the chances of a stan being a 100 year old is 1 in 7.5trillion
@bw-leftturnracing7779
@bw-leftturnracing7779 3 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who is 18 and a dream stan. I'm not joking.
@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75
@youcansave15ormoreoncarins75 3 жыл бұрын
@@drake4174 that's not something to be proud of then
@Presfr
@Presfr 3 жыл бұрын
@@drake4174 not a good thing
@parthmandewalkar4577
@parthmandewalkar4577 3 жыл бұрын
There are 4 types of people in this arguement... Dream stans: the people who think dream is just lucky, or the math is wrong. These people will not look even once at the opposing argument, and have full faith in dream. Dream haters: the people who dont really care about the math, and just come the the conclusion dream cheated because they hate him. The logical person: Some people will look at both sides of the arguement before coming to a logical conclusion. Antvenom belongs in this category. Me: The biggest brain who knows that Dream didnt cheat, but just liked one of those videos which say “like this video in under 5 seconds for 20 years of amazing luck.”
@enzicoxe
@enzicoxe 3 жыл бұрын
im the 5th person
@parthmandewalkar4577
@parthmandewalkar4577 3 жыл бұрын
@@enzicoxe ah, i see
@francomartv7838
@francomartv7838 3 жыл бұрын
3
@gmalamat1393
@gmalamat1393 3 жыл бұрын
Ant having his revenge on dream getting the glow squid into the game
@bluenightfury4365
@bluenightfury4365 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh wouldn't hate him as much as I do if he didnt rig the mob vote.
@ThrustersX
@ThrustersX 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluenightfury4365 Iceologer fking sucks glow squid deserved the vote
@PyroFloe
@PyroFloe 3 жыл бұрын
@@ThrustersX it's just a stupid reskin of a squid, enjoy your boring non-glowing "glow squid"
@bow-89
@bow-89 3 жыл бұрын
69th like, nice
@ClobberClobber
@ClobberClobber 3 жыл бұрын
i liked the moobloom :(
@FeedMyBalls
@FeedMyBalls 3 жыл бұрын
imo too, there are stans out there saying “It’s just for entertainment, its okay to cheat” but the thing is this is an official speedrun saying that is like spitting on the faces of the other legit speedrunners who worked hard just to get to the leaderboards
@popoffpeppar
@popoffpeppar 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah and they stream it and make money off of it. They’ve literally built a career on Minecraft speed running
@zachsuarez1830
@zachsuarez1830 3 жыл бұрын
Thing is it’s not ok to cheat but he didn’t cheat the mods just made a couple mistakes that ended up massively changing the odds
@agosesco7134
@agosesco7134 3 жыл бұрын
No stans say that what? They just think that dream didn't cheat
@dementionalpotato
@dementionalpotato 3 жыл бұрын
@@zachsuarez1830 Do you know how many people have reviewed the studies, or even done the math again? They all come to the same conclusions. Even the specialist that dream hired himself came to produce probabilities that clearly showed that dream was cheating.
@FeedMyBalls
@FeedMyBalls 3 жыл бұрын
@@agosesco7134 twitter my friend
@the111bmxbmx
@the111bmxbmx 3 жыл бұрын
I wish we could go back to when stall was the biggest Minecraft drama
@thepiterp5
@thepiterp5 3 жыл бұрын
guys just chill please he just has a good gaming chair
@pratyushwarungase2197
@pratyushwarungase2197 3 жыл бұрын
gaming hamster?
@thepiterp5
@thepiterp5 3 жыл бұрын
@@pratyushwarungase2197 what hamster-
@zenosama8505
@zenosama8505 3 жыл бұрын
@@thepiterp5 you got a good gaming hamster your more likely to win
@atomicuranium8176
@atomicuranium8176 2 жыл бұрын
r/beatmetoit
@rangertalksdogsgames7996
@rangertalksdogsgames7996 3 жыл бұрын
Ant: *is throwing all kinds of numbers everywhere* Me: I like his voice
@Dunger974
@Dunger974 3 жыл бұрын
The numbers actually made sense unlike Dream’s and Geo’s vids
@goldenty34_moible94
@goldenty34_moible94 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@_username
@_username 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dunger974 Cause ant is used in explaining these kinds of things to people who don't find math easy, so naturally, he's better at explaining
@n4t376
@n4t376 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dunger974 AntVenom is an og of minecraft and has been doing KZfaq for years. So naturally, he is better
@Dunger974
@Dunger974 3 жыл бұрын
I know
@stxllr4687
@stxllr4687 3 жыл бұрын
The Lemmino music is such a meme in this community now. I love it.
@arneshpal7702
@arneshpal7702 3 жыл бұрын
Which
@melvin0o708
@melvin0o708 3 жыл бұрын
@@arneshpal7702 the whole soundtrack lol
@RafilaWan
@RafilaWan 3 жыл бұрын
@@D2Davis It really didn't, I think you've just got a stick up your ass. Lemmino is a pretty humorous guy, so it doesn't really come off as morally wrong to meme his content.
@RafilaWan
@RafilaWan 3 жыл бұрын
@@D2Davis I accept that my comment is rude, although additionally I think you should be more aware of the public nature of KZfaq comments. Anyone can give their two cents on anything- it's not like I was pretending to be them. But yeah, I just think meming recognizable music is fine and jumped in to say so. It's the same reason Minecraft and Spongebob and the like is popular meme material now- we all kinda grew up with it so now it's relatable and hence easier to make funny.
@stxllr4687
@stxllr4687 3 жыл бұрын
@@D2Davis That's really not what I meant. Sorry if it came that way but I was saying that the song itself became a running joke within this entire 'Dream cheating' speedrunning drama. I've watched Lemmino's videos even before this entire situation and can say wholeheartedly that his videos are amazing and are by far one of the best docu-style videos I've seen on this platform.
@b33bo93
@b33bo93 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who credits lemmino for his work!
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