I Hate Your Deck #43 Sheoldred The Apocalypse v Daretti v Borborygmos v Tymna || Commander Gameplay

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@Hemlocker Жыл бұрын

✅ Ayli killing herself with the crypt she tutor'd for ✅ Mike's commander getting targeted every single turn ✅ Larry winning with Storm Cauldron ✅ Microsink lettuce great game, 10/10

@Deer_God Жыл бұрын

Larry is my favorite person on this show. So glad to see more of him lately

@michaelgreen8851 Жыл бұрын

Scary Larry!

@kingdavidsavior9473 Жыл бұрын

i think david might be better just my personal preference

@Stylouz Жыл бұрын

Love this team guys you’re just awesome ! ✨❤️

@BlackSmith863 Жыл бұрын

@@kingdavidsavior9473 they are both the kind of people I envy for my play group to find

@Laetteralus Жыл бұрын

Larry is the best guest of all time. He is just such a great presence and is always talking with the table about anything and everything that affects it. He is just a great personality. +1 to making him a staple to the show's lineup!

@kingdavidsavior9473 Жыл бұрын

i would argue that david is the best guest to ever be on th show.

@3nertia Жыл бұрын

@@kingdavidsavior9473 Not with that attitude ;)

@thatman8848 Жыл бұрын

Is Larry the new co-host because he is my number 2 pick for sure! Other than Cpt Hot sauce himself!

@kingdavidsavior9473 Жыл бұрын

idk i feel like david would be a great co-host just my opinion

@Nanot33 Жыл бұрын

@@kingdavidsavior9473 I agree, David! Please bring out the spice and win for us! I am rooting for ya!

@rbruch98 Жыл бұрын

Ugh I can't *stand* David. If he becomes co-host I'm definitely unsubscribing.

@kingdavidsavior9473 Жыл бұрын

@@rbruch98 lmao

@thatman8848 Жыл бұрын

@@kingdavidsavior9473 Def top 3 for sure.

@Sbryant154 Жыл бұрын

This was fantastic, it brought a smile to me with Ayli’s badger meme reference and Larry just not getting it!

@kainne2 Жыл бұрын

I didn't get it either but I am in my late 40's.

@altmediamedia9654 Жыл бұрын

Lots of laughs in this episode. I especially enjoys all the crypt rolls!!! Great personalities! For some reason my player had strange audio issues...not sure if its happening to anyone else.

@bradymarshall6173 Жыл бұрын

I had the same problems

@alexladd2085 Жыл бұрын

Its fixed now. Had the same problem

@DavidMadara Жыл бұрын

I wish I had a friend like Ayli who could explain how all of my confusingly worded cards work as I play them. Great group

@amberlee4536 Жыл бұрын

It's a good thing Ayli was there and apparently knows every single rule of Magic because good lord, the priority mess that was her trying not to die was confusing.

@SelATSysSU 8 ай бұрын

Not every rule, when a player dies in a multiplayer game, if it is their turn they still finish their turn going through all the states, however, they can not do anything as there is not active player for that turn. Also, if a player dies while having priority then priority would be passed to the next player. So at this point they made a mistake kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jruZpdqGzpy1aX0.htmlsi=8ARVo0UBYBt1Uz3E&t=3246

@kinggingie4583 Жыл бұрын

All this talk of teams, I’d love to see a IHYD Two-Headed Giant game in the future. Love the show, you guys are awesome 😍

@mrknarf4438 Жыл бұрын

At 56:51 I think that's a mistake: the intervening "if" ability checks once to see if it should trigger at all, and then again before resolution. He had cards in his hand, so it shouldn't have triggered at all. From the Gatherer for the Orrery: "No player may take actions in a turn before Ghirapur Orrery's second ability checks to see if it should trigger. If the player whose turn it is has any cards in hand, it won't trigger."

@DevoidGoat Жыл бұрын

Yerp Also Ayli dying on her upkeep of her turn, the table still goes through her turns steps and phases as normal(rule 800.4something). its just that she isn't in the game at that point. So he could have discarded the cards on her end step anyways.

@1ntegrator Жыл бұрын

If both of you are correct then these 2 mistakes basically cancel each other out in terms of the impact on the game 😊

@vsorensen5542 Жыл бұрын

56:33 800.4j If a player leaves the game during their turn, that turn continues to its completion without an active player. If the active player would receive priority, instead the next player in turn order receives priority, or the top object on the stack resolves, or the phase or step ends, whichever is appropriate.

@krazoanfox Жыл бұрын

I jave thus learning my mistakes I am not an office judge but I am working on that no. I'm sorry

@therealax6 Жыл бұрын

@@krazoanfox We all make mistakes! You learn from them. With the complexity of the game's rules, I think it's impossible to remember all the rules all the time and never misrule anything. (While we're at it, intervening 'if' clauses check _both_ on trigger and on resolution (603.4). I'm sure you know this and you just forgot for a second, but just in case.)

@billcannon Жыл бұрын

Great episode. Best EDH content on KZfaq, best personalities, best guests. I was just building a NueSheo deck yesterday too.

@johnm.9597 Жыл бұрын

Larry getting hype that mana crypt hit every time is definitely the best part lol

@TheKitsunefire Жыл бұрын

42:12 is a big brain misplay on lynchyboi! So I'm very familiar with cabal coffers, specifically with the fact its USELESS on its own (most of the time). Because Lynch spite bounced urborg to his hand to screw up ayli, he actually can't tap coffers in response to bounce it back to his hand because it does not produce any mana BY ITSELF. If he were to save his coffers, he'd have to bounce two swamps to pay for coffers and then tap it.

@PugFeist Жыл бұрын

I love seeing Larry win. Everyone’s decks are so fun to see but he almost always seems to be 12 moves ahead

@lechampion2349 Жыл бұрын

Larry face when he thought berry past away was priceless 😭😭😭

@kingdavidsavior9473 Жыл бұрын

barry*

@ivancalitzcrockart3300 Жыл бұрын

Such an amazing game with some complex and interesting interactions! Big ups to Ayli for handling those interactions so well, learned a lot just by trying to follow along.

@ScottofOakland Жыл бұрын

Larry is totally awesome and a great player. I love how he says "Declare the battle" Great episode!

@JohnArthur77 Жыл бұрын

Learning so much about how the stack functions this episode, and let me just say... I work as a writing tutor at my college. We deal with grammar rules, formatting rules, and more. THE STACK is easily as complicated, if not more complicated, than ANY of what I have to work with. Wild.

@crazydreams24 Жыл бұрын

Ayli going off with badger and Larry reacting that he thinks his in a fun house just had me rolling for some reason😂

@Saint_Ada Жыл бұрын

I really think this is my favorite episode so far, all my favorite players having a really fun and entertaining episode, already lost count of the times i watched this while working or studying

@Tompaguden420 Жыл бұрын

Really awesome episode as always! :D good job and well played!

@madgab29 Жыл бұрын

A lot of lessons learned today. And a lot of fun as well. Good job guyz!

@widdiful434 Жыл бұрын

The friendship vibes of this group was great :) I liked this video a lot more than some of the other ones (not that I didn't).

@jakobwithak930 Жыл бұрын

Ayli and Larry are both my favorite they're so fun to watch and so technical with all their plays

@rjblea2501 Жыл бұрын

Definitely my favorite Mtg show on KZfaq, I feel like I have a connection with all the players on the show and couldn’t ask for a better group of players to enjoy my favorite card game! Thank you Lynch.

@samuraistacks8955 Жыл бұрын

I thought originally that Mycosynth Lattice was being neglected for its "players may spend mana as though it were mana of any color" ability, but then went down a rabbithole of rules describing how spells require and know which colors are being spent despite the "as though" part... I love IHYD as it helps me learn and have fun while learning. Great episode as always!

@ThisIsACommanderChannel Жыл бұрын

Minor rules error, but around the 54:00 mark, it's mentioned that with her dying it instantly becomes his turn, not quite. The rest of the turn does continue through all the rest of the Steps and Phases but does so without an Active Player. So he would be given priority during those changes.

@hardtailstrails1299 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this Ep! So much great energy! And good teamwork!!! Shots shots shots shots!!!!

@OmegaMTG Жыл бұрын

That was a beautiful win. Thanks for the vid Michael.

@fwop7436 Жыл бұрын

Congrats to Mana Crypt for dealing the most damage this game! 😂

@danielsheraton5433 Жыл бұрын

What a game! Some crazy stuff going on, glad Ayli was there to organise the stack.

@SimonDLCruz Жыл бұрын

Big fan of the Show! Congrats for another wonderful episode! Congrats Larry! 😊

@moreplease394 Жыл бұрын

Lynch, you gotta let us poor people have access to the decklists. I would love to play the exact decks at my LGS and spread love of the show when people ask me how I came up with the decks!

@orlandodalcin6761 Жыл бұрын

Amazing game and unique vibe at table. Great players and the ending was so funny!!

@carlpeterson8740 Жыл бұрын

If a player dies you still pass through their phases and may take actions as phases end. There just is no active player and the next player in priority automatically receives it. It's like 800.4j or something as a rules reference. Ghirapur Orrery checks at the beginning of upkeep before someone could have taken an action on their turn so there is getting empty handed before it. The 2 mistakes in this case cancelled out though

@MarcellusI7 Жыл бұрын

I've played a dedicated Sheoldred deck last week. It's just ridiculous how fast it can go, with opponents not really having fun..

@MrManbearpigs Жыл бұрын

Amazing game, watched every minute. Good jokes, and good vibes, sticking around for a while

@K4Kendo Жыл бұрын

That "Badger - mushroom" thrown me back to my teenage years, thanks Ayli :')

@JustABrokenToy Жыл бұрын

what a game! it's nice having Ayli as a judge in the game to explain some of the interactions and keep track of the stack properly.

@ashleyosenbach5633 Жыл бұрын

Except the Field of the Dead should have made zero zombies, as there are not 6 other lands with different names under Larry's control

@the.rainmaker Жыл бұрын

@@ashleyosenbach5633 Mountain, Snow covered mountain, valakut, field of the dead, dark depths, thespian stage and the red-green land I assume is stomping grounds. That's seven.

@krazoanfox Жыл бұрын

I asked. But I think me asking was cut. He had 7. It was the snow land the slid under the radar

@fredericchaumel7111 Жыл бұрын

Very fun game to watch! Can’t wait for my next game and the next episode.

@Kendo47Wowgeek Жыл бұрын

The odds of correctly calling 7 coin flips in a row is 0.781%. Pretty insane that every single mana crypt roll did damage.

@djshaneomac573 Жыл бұрын

Great video got alot of info from this one. That Sheoldred did some damage. When Valakut hit first turn I figured Larry had the whole game.

@7abian Жыл бұрын

awesome episode! awesome guests!!

@buddadragonmtg4848 Жыл бұрын

Man he really is scary Larry. Though I really can't help but think of impractical jokers when I hear Larry. Thanks Joe and friends lol. Great game still pulling for David to get a good win.

@DORIANKOVAK Жыл бұрын

Très belle partie! J'ai vraiment adoré les interactions.

@Spoodlewok Жыл бұрын

Four favs at the same time! Love the content as always. Scary larry and the cookie muncher

@dedc Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the laughs today Lynch. Needed it. Bless up

@MoCtheFirst Жыл бұрын

Great group, fun match, thanks for the upload :)

@marksmallpage9149 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic episode. Love the chemistry and dynamics that Larry and Ayli bring to the table - my favourite 2 players to join the table with Lynch over all the IHYD episodes so far (with no shade to the others - just that we all have our favourites!).

@marksmallpage9149 Жыл бұрын

Always impressed with the decks they bring too and enjoy watching them pilot them and show off what they can/should do :)

@kingdavidsavior9473 Жыл бұрын

David's my favorite nobias tho just personal preferance

@bryanholdren9043 Жыл бұрын

um 53:05 800.4a When a player leaves the game, all objects (see rule 109) owned by that player leave the game and any effects which give that player control of any objects or players end. Then, if that player controlled any objects on the stack not represented by cards, those objects cease to exist. Then, if there are any objects still controlled by that player, those objects are exiled. This is not a state-based action. It happens as soon as the player leaves the game. If the player who left the game had priority at the time they left, priority passes to the next player in turn order who’s still in the game.

@damonlouis6536 Жыл бұрын

so the equipment shouldn't have been returned to lynch? I believe it should have been exiled instead

@krazoanfox Жыл бұрын

Thank you have have sence learned my mistake. I didn't know this.

@kyleholden7529 Жыл бұрын

I would love a decklist from this episode. I have a new Sheoldred deck and would love to see what Lynch put in it. Also Larry's deck was hilarious.

@kurichev3496 Жыл бұрын

Larry is so much fun! Hope to see him again!

@mikepetrangelo5396 Жыл бұрын

Lynch needed to tap and bounce 2 more lands to tap his coffers because he previously tapped and bounced urborg. It's easy to miss because there was a lot going on. Great episode ayli and Larry are fun to watch together.

@garyg9176 Жыл бұрын

This was a great laugh, and of course....What a game 👍

@johnyedinak1180 Жыл бұрын

I instantly was filled with joy when ari did the badger badger song

@LeviClay Жыл бұрын

I'm a man of simple pleasures, I see Larry, and I hit like.

@Quelfas Жыл бұрын

800.4g. If a player leaves the game during his or her turn, that turn continues to its completion without an active player. If the active player would receive priority, instead the next player in turn order receives priority, or the top object on the stack resolves, or the phase or step ends, whichever is appropriate. AFAIK, the turn doesn't simply end... Wouldn't Larry have a chance to respond by throwing lands?

@tietscho Жыл бұрын

What a funny game. These land drops and bounces sheeeesh

@vesselofcalamity8107 Жыл бұрын

Great show guys!

@normkiidoodle Жыл бұрын

Great episode!!!

@brandyourfan9244 Жыл бұрын

Great game guys! Noticed one small misplay. At 42:15 Lynch tapped Cabal Coffers to bounce it (Storm Cauldron) , so it wouldn't be destroyed. Lynch previously bounced Urborg, so he could not have tapped just Coffers to bounce it. He would've needed to bounce 2 other lands as well, to tap Coffers.

@XenoFect 9 ай бұрын

@11:20, Larry takes 1 damage instead of 2 lol

@rayray5768 Жыл бұрын

What a fun and interesting Episode! Thanks for the game guys and congratulations to Larry! 4 awesome people and Ayli's knowledge is awesome!!!

@sarahmcnugget1860 Жыл бұрын

Love watching Ayli and Larry play. Great game!

@t.s.8430 Жыл бұрын

42:13 You needed to pay 2 mana to activate cabal coffers since urborg was not on the field, thus three lands should have been bounced? Or?

@AMK207 Жыл бұрын

I was wondering about this myself. There was no Urborg on the board, so he should not have been able to just tap it for a black.

@therealax6 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that was a misplay.

@austinc3669 Жыл бұрын

Love the show I just sub’d to patreon for the deck lists too. These episodes with ayli, Larry and David are my favs by far.

@ward9 Жыл бұрын

Ayli! Badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom.. It's a Snaaaaaaake!! Also reminded me of Lions and tigers... only in Kenya.

@gdmmd8167 Жыл бұрын

aewsome show, the kid should´ve meteorited the cauldron though

@danbeasteu9785 Жыл бұрын

Such a good game. Great err cast! Can you do a game with the planer deck. Ends up crazy

@grimbourne Жыл бұрын

Good game! Big mistake was Cabal being bounce to Lynchs hand in response to Volcanic Offering. He would have had to tap two other lands to activate it because urborg was no longer in play. Which would have bounced two more lands to his hand.

@Leeyore1 Жыл бұрын

"Pick One" is a great trick. Whichever one is picked, the holder decides where it goes. I see you, Aylie. ;)

@binlaggin168 Жыл бұрын

No player may take actions in a turn before Ghirapur Orrery's second ability checks to see if it should trigger. If the player whose turn it is has any cards in hand, it won't trigger. - gatherer

@Doomnonius Жыл бұрын

However, I believe Ayli was wrong and Larry should have been able to activate Borb during Ayli's turn, even though she died. I don't have a rules reference so I could be wrong though.

@PhlegethonianStream Жыл бұрын

thanks

@tylernilsson7015 Жыл бұрын

When someone dies the game still progress through its steps and phases. Upkeep she died, Larry can still cast spells and use abilities in the draw step, main phase, and everything else before it becomes his turn

@Clements2006 Жыл бұрын

@@Doomnonius Literally looked this rule up the other day

@cristianscrivati8171 Жыл бұрын

But larry is taking the action after Ghirapur Orrey ability check to see if it should trigger, not before. The triggered ability goes on the stack, larry discards all the lands following the priority rules on the stack, than Ghirapur Orrey resolves, with no cards in hand for Larry. I think Ayli interpreted the rule this way

@stereomayhem1088 Жыл бұрын

such a good game, can't wait to finish building my shoeldred deck :)

@johnderington7998 Жыл бұрын

I love that you are using proxies! So much more fun to build decks without having to waste money if you end up hating the deck. My play group and I are totally fine with 100% proxies because, after all, magic is a game intended for fun and not a contest of who has the most money.

@troyberman Жыл бұрын

In response to Volcanic Offering Lynch tapped Cabal Coffers (42:15) for a black mana to bounce it back to his hand thanks to the Storm Cauldron effect but this he cannot do because Urborg Tomb of Yawgmoth was not on the board, it was in his hand. He had just put it there at the end of the previous turn. If he wished to save Coffers in response to Volcanic Offering he would have had to tap two additional lands to pay the Coffers activation cost, thus bouncing all three lands back to his hand.

@marcelbehncke900 Жыл бұрын

Yeah Master David is on the table , again 😁🥳🤴🏻🧎🏾‍♂️ super cool , my King !!!! I am your loyal servant 🙃🤴🧎🏾‍♂️

@IHateYourDeck Жыл бұрын

David is awesome.

@marcelbehncke900 Жыл бұрын

@@IHateYourDeck Yes he is , I am his great fan and loyal servant 🙃🤴🧎🏾‍♂️

@kingdavidsavior9473 Жыл бұрын

why thank you

@skate14eras Жыл бұрын

I wish more people played volcanic offering. Such a sick card

@JustABrokenToy Жыл бұрын

same, it's probably one of the best cards in my Kalamax deck. but it's fairly efficient even without the extra copies

@vauk5081 Жыл бұрын

As a Daretti player, I'm looking forward to this. I think at this point it's my oldest and probably favorite deck.

@kingdavidsavior9473 Жыл бұрын

im sorry i failed you

@j2c695 Жыл бұрын

Honestly Ayli was so clutch here the crazy stack at the end, she did a great job of explaining

@razielthedamn4301 Жыл бұрын

Ghirapur Orrery doesnt trigger because IF [condition] must be met before it decides if it triggers or not (also checks again on resolution) Also i wasnt sure about tempt card but gatherer says: "After each opponent has decided, the effect happens simultaneously for each one who accepted the offer. Then, the effect happens again for you a number of times equal to the number of opponents who accepted." Which i would say it means that all casters lands ETB one after another, and all tempted players ETB at the same time. Or did i misunderstood that sentence? It also says "for each opponent search" not "search for as many lands as oppponents who searched" o i would say that im correct ... but who knows-> im not a judge :)

@krazoanfox Жыл бұрын

I am not an official judge but I am working on that now

@krazoanfox Жыл бұрын

If you look in the additional rules in gatherer. It says it

@Highman_ Жыл бұрын

Ist was just a hiLARRYus Game. Love your content!

@RazgrizAce67 Жыл бұрын

42:15 When Lynch tries to avoid having his Coffers blown up he taps it but without Urborg on the field Coffers doesn't tap for mana on its own. He would have had to tap and bounce 2 other swamps to bounce it back.

@wesleydesouza8082 Жыл бұрын

Lynch with the cabal misplay during volcanic offering, can’t tap it for a black and bounce it to hand cause you were speedy and tapped urborg during your turn instead of waiting for the end step before her turn

@blakerobinson4198 Жыл бұрын

Quick rules thing. When Ayli dies, Larry does have a chance to cast spells and activate abilities before his turn. When a player dies during their turn, you still go through steps and phases. Before the next turn begins. If ghirapur's condition is not met, the trigger will not go on the stack, so Larry can't respond to it. Basically, we ended in the right spot with the game, but the rules explanation was incorrect. Larry should have discarded at the end of ayli's turn to meet ghirapurs draw condition

@krazoanfox Жыл бұрын

I have found my mistake. It was something I 2asnt aware of. Rules 800.4a

@Ktv.24 Жыл бұрын

Larry: “will greed be your downfall Mike?” 😂😂

@shilohartisan Жыл бұрын

32:00 What's the worst that could happen? Ayli talks him out of it, then immediately is Tempted. LOL! funniest sh*t I've seen all day. I f*cking love this playgroup!

@caseykahler5944 Жыл бұрын

The audio and video of the video aren’t synced up anymore. They were and I came back to the video an hour later and it’s not synced. Turned phone on and off, reinstalled the app, tried on other devices, but it won’t fix itself. The video needs to be re-uploaded

@jordancourtney4244 Жыл бұрын

Larry’s SHEOLDRED trigger off the mountain cycle he pressed minus 1 add 1 life on accident 😂

@imanujakku Жыл бұрын

I never knew what borborygmos did before this lol…i only knew about him from his flavor text on protean hulk.

@burningskullhead1 Жыл бұрын

This game was Awesome constant back and forth always love seeing Ayli she's my fave dave and Larry are so cool and chill too and that storm cauldron not only won the game it made it insanely more funny love games like that 👍

@jacobslutsky9502 Жыл бұрын

The tempt with discovery is inaccurate each opponent decides then the effect happens for caster and determines how many lands they get

@jyomi7506 Жыл бұрын

Ok, I wasn't thinking Sheoldred was that scary but holy crap that did a lot of damage... Great game guys ^.^

@fivecolorscotty Жыл бұрын

35:50 Larry's Valakut land was triggering several times facepalm Also at 41:35 How did Lynch tap Cabal coffers for mana? Urborg wasn't out, it couldn't just straight up tap for black, he would also have to bounce two other lands to his hand to activate coffers...