Lose the crappy background music and more ppl will watch your videos.

I unlocked the purifier, took out for a test in T3 mission, encountered a bot strider, shot it 5 times, it was still alive, quit the mission, unequip the purifier, never touch it again

Justifying being masochist😂

I like the concept of weapons like this with a lot of utility like stun locking. In practice tho, killing things quickly always seems like the best option.

Hmmmm, I still think that the punisher plasma is better, but I have no problem that you liked the weapon.

I wished it charged idle, without holding the button. Also give it the liberator scope and I'd take it for a spin. As is, it's a mess.

glad you like it. I just don't want to fight against weapon design for my entertainment. not worth the effort for me.

so use it if you want the enemies to live longer? 🤣

I play with the same 3 people for the most part and I love this gun. I think ypu have to know your team to maximize its use. I usually hang back a little and use it to cover my mates retreat or pesky patrols who tend to sneak up.

Only thing the purifier needs is a damage buff, and a half second shorter charge time. It’s great right now for bots however.

I've often thought that perhaps giving its AOE the ability to pull targets closer rather than push them away would be cool, and make it more unique when compared to the Punisher Plasma or the Scorcher. It would still need a slight damage boost, and a proper "medium armor pen.", but it could be used to set-up fire/gas stratagems a lot easier

If they had made this and the crossbow one handed weapons they would have given players more utility when used with the ballistic shield. A little more buffing doesn’t hurt, but utility goes a long way in this game

I think the biggest problem was the trailer. They explained the weapon like it was a charge weapon that could infinitely charge. Instead we got a punisher plasma with better range and long charge up.

This thing seems like it's supposed to have a similar role to eruptor but with more stun. If they roll back the shrapnel nerf on eruptor I'm not sure why' I'd want to run this.

I knew all this already. But let’s we be honest, that moment in your example when you used the air strike to finish the brood commanders and warriors. That is the moment you get every time you want to give this weapon a chance, every time you get that feeling of “I’m already wasting a lot of time here, let’s finish it” and proceed to use support or stratagems. That’s the main problem of this weapon, not quick enough doing it’s job.

Damage buff, better scope (I.E. Diligence), and a quickfire option would make this a go to, its ment to be a marksman plasma, but the weak scope coupled with the low damage make this hard to pick over the other 2 plasma weapons.

I saw a guy taking out a Shrieker Nest from afar with the Purifier, about 200 meters. Basically, he aimed a bit upwards and fired the shots like it was a grenade launcher, and when the projectiles finally hit the Shrieker Nest, it made some big energy explosions that is apparently enough to destroy these nests like you were shooting an anti armor weapon. I remember it was about 3 shots as well. I know it was the Purifier based on the explosion I seen compared to this video, the Purifier has a much bigger energy explosion compared to the Scorcher.

Punisher is better. In every way I can think off. The purifier seems like it was suppose to be an alt fire for the scorcher

If you are looking for stagger game these guns do it better: Pummeler Blitz SG (totally annihilates medium armor also better crowd control) Punisher SG Slugger SG ARC gun stratagem

It's amazing how much people need to bend over backwards to pretend Purifier is "good" and "has a niche".

Thank you for the balanced perspective on this weapon. I much appreciate those who spend time with a weapon or even a set like the Plasma weapons to try and understand their differences and the individual purpose of each. 👍

I feel like it should have infinite Ammo to be worth using, with that chargeup time or add an unsafe mode with more dmg and Armor Penetration

I unlocked the purifier when it came out and never played it. Just picked it up a couple nights ago and I can't put it down. Super fun weapon that when used properly can really help a team out. I like the video.

Ive been trying the purifier also and i think i really like it. I did almost the same load out but i used the lazer guardian backback to take care of the little bugs that got too close. Eat and poison gas strike. Its been pretty fun on helldive difficulty.

I need to unlock Polar Patriots. I have maximum medals and nothing to spend them on. I have everything in all the other war bounds

Me wondering why he just doesn't use the explosive sniper to kill that pack in 2 shots, then realizing this is a space sci fi and we want to use unique weapons even if it makes us less effective. 😓

if anything, i think that the chargeup could be a bit faster

given some thought the purifier would make for one hell of a support weapon quaso variant, i'd make it full-auto preferably duo/tri/quad-barrel (get med-pen on the projectile) and have a cooldown/overheat system. then simply swap in the GL in as a primary option, give the current primary purifier variant a semi-auto cooldown-trigger (shoot, wait for 0.5-1.5 second charge on next-shot, shoot again) instead of the current charge-up.

I hope this weapon gets at the very least a better scope and its (missing) hitmarkers fixed, + hopefully a further stage of charge for extra damage like the original weapon description hinted at. I personally only use it for bots because I prefer the arc blitzer for bugs, and for bots I only use it cause unlike scorcher it stuns what I shoot and unlike punisher it doesn't run out of ammo very fast, + it's easier to use against them tiny flying ships than punisher

This gun is the gun I bring when I don’t bring the arc thrower. I just have to remind myself I’m shooting plasmers and not lightning. I have fun and it does medium piercing without being powerful.

Can it take out bug holes? I always carry grenade pistol bc of it's utility in taking out holes and fabs. Could drop it for something else against the bots but I will never not take it against the bugs

while I understand the idea for 'sustained' crowd control... the bigger problem I think is that the punisher plasma does a much better crowd control called KILLING them all dead. Sure, with the purifier you can keep a group or one enemy stunned... but with plasma punisher, they'd be either all dead or almost dead by the time the plasma punisher magazine is empty. And it'll kill them all in a fraction of the time a purifier would which is kinda important since since the enemies in the game don't exactly wait for you,

play level 9 then we will problaly consider it

What's the purifier I was using that sniper rifle With the airbrush Take out the big guys with it and finish off the little guys with the airbrush

I actually use a somewhat similar loadout now that the Purifier got buffed. Primary: Purifier Secondary: Senator (Revolver) Throwable: Thermite Grenade Armor: Medium, with Peak Phys perk Strategems: Orbital Precision Strike, Eagle Airstrike, Jump Pack, Quasar Cannon. Booster: Experimental Infusion This loadout works pretty well for me and I can hold off swarms of smaller enemies easily. Prefer fighting Terminids at 6 or higher but have had decent success against Automatons at difficulty 5-6 by substituting the Jump Pack with a Personal Shield. Lvl 65+ Viper Commando, might see me in random games dropping in to help get objectives done and make sure samples make it to extract.

Great video! You should add how many shots it takes to take out each enemy, so we can compare it better with the other weapons

From a meta or helldive perspective, I just don't see the point in this weapon. That's great your doing the crowd controlling thing but I could just kill them 8/10 times. It doesn't have a scope so you can't snipe the way you really want to. It has the worst part of the Quasar cannon and Arc thrower with the reward of a plasma punisher. That's cool you've made this weapon seem better than a dumpster fire but It's heavily outclassed in it's role. The worst part for me is maximizing the fire rate has extra steps because it doesn't just fire when it gets to full charge. If you're in a firefight with bots for example where the control would be valued you would be kicking yourself everytime you got flinched out of a shot. Against bugs you bring the jetpack to compensate for a lack of CQC but with a different weapon you could have the stratagem slot back and a more versatile weapon. The creativity is cool tho keep it up.

As a fellow laser cannon enjoyer I really like the synergy with stun grenades for bots, makes letter boxing the hulks alot easier.

This gun always seemed cool but i never pick it over the plas punisher, after this weeks buff I’m hype to give it another shot

I tend to play this weapon as overwatch, I've saved dozens of swarmed teammates by staggerlocking groups of threats. I pair it with the stationary heavy turret which can clear out bugbreaches alone if your a decent distance away.

I'll be picking this up soon. Kinda curious how it holds up against bots

may i recommand the grenade pistol as a sideweapon ? Since you can use the laser cannon for the little mobs, the gp can give your the destruction potential you may need against some obstacle.

This is hilarious because I've been using the plas-punisher on shriekers and I almost instinctively snipe targets with it over cover but ammo is a sore point. I think I'll give the plas-101 another chance.

Finally! I like this weapon too! It’s my go to against the bots when not being a shield chad

I've been using the purifier a lot and i've found that the vanquisher is a pretty good secondary to use. While the dps is not as high as the redeemer its 10 reserve mags means its always available as a reliable switch for smaller enemies like hunters and troopers.

i need to give it a go. I would propably change the laser cannon for a sentry and look for a support weapon in minor places of intrest. It seems everything except AMR would work well

I like the feel of the weapon, but i deals too little dmg with a massive penalty in the form of low fire rate and charge time. I have played Warframe for a very long time and the Purifier reminds me of a really nice bow, that shoots explossive arrows that will definitely kill you, but compensates by having nice AoE and damge. Obviously WF is a very different game, where you get a lot of mobility, so the con of the bow is trivial, but in hd2 it needs to compensate. While you charge, the enemy can get in your face, enemies that take more than one shot, also get the chance to come too close to you. So the devs need to address the problem by either reducing massively the charge time or dramatically increase the dmg. I mean double dmg may soun crazy, but the weapon is counter balanced by its own mechanics already.

I’d love some commentary on how the buffs changed the weapons and what stratagems you’d use with it now

Now is it better than the scorcher?

I want to thank you for getting the name of the Punisher Plasma correct. So many people get it backwards as the plasma punisher.

If it charged in-between shots then I might give it another chance. I'll stick to my blitzer and Jar5 dominator.

I appreciate you trying really hard to get it to work. It's still a C tier weapon because of the chargeup and slow fire rate

This is more of a long range weapon and since I usually find myself in mid range combat, I prefer using the plasma punisher or any shotgun

I would definitely swap in heavy MG over laser cannon for that build.

My only slight pet peeve after watching 3/4 videos so far is that a lot of these builds are played on diff6/7. I wonder how well they would still hold in diff9 with spawn rates especially those of heavies being so different !

I love the weapon just needs some dmg buffs but I like the weapon concept. I use with the rover and it is a great combo for when I get pushed up by the bugs

From what I see, Punisher plasma does the same stuff this thing does, and does it better and faster.

the purifier really could be great buuuuut... its in desperate need of some buffs. its 250 firerate (same as scorcher) feels more like 50(crossbows speed) due to the charge up time. i feel it either needs to have a much shorter charge time, or it should act like the sickle, charge for a moment and then a continuous(yet slower obviously) barrage of shots, kind of like a roman candle

I did quite like it when I used it against bots. Stunning 4 devastators at the same time at up to 200m consistently is no joke. Personally I think the charge up time is what hurts it the most since the long charge up allows enemies to start to fire back before I get the stun on them. Definitely a weapon I only pick if I have atleast 1 premade mate.

You can switch the machine pistol to semi auto so and it becomes great against the bots.

Need changes like: Infinite ammo like blitzer Auto fire. Just hold the button and weapon will charge and shoot non stop with same rate of fire. Maybe lower rate of fire a little to 200 to balance it. Energy weapon should be strong. Now it's and the bottom of warbond but in reality it's not worth the money.

Wish they would've specialized each of the plasma weapons to different roles since they all have a mix of explosive and projectile damage. Would make each gun more unique and set up a theme for future plasma weapons. Punisher is unstable and the blobs it fires explode violently for a lot of dmg but the bulk of the dmg is the splash. Purifier is condensed so the projectile flies farther/faster and does a lot more direct dmg and pierces medium but has a small explosion. Scorcher is just a regular middle ground stable plasma weapon with neither strength or weakness of the others. Definitely too late to see a change like that but it just wouldve been cooler than just pick plasma gun 1, 2, or 3.

I think it can be buffed just by removing the charge time

"I mastered the purifier." Meaning he got 2 kills with it, that gun isnt good in anyway and there is no way around that. Its just a slower scorcher.

This was actually good 👍🏾

Man the purifier was such a good gun they had to do several buffs to it. Such a hidden gem. Rolls eyes.

It needs 100% more damage or no charge time.

It's just the plasma punisher we have at home. It trades rate of fire for more ammo, less aggressive bullet drop, and a charge requirement that makes it a death sentence at close range. So use it against bots or not at all Personally I'm also good at range with it so it's literally just more ammo that 9/10 I simply don't need

I think a good way to "fix" this without making it the same as the eruptor or punisher plasma would be to give it a stun grenade effect instead of it's knockback. Much more utility while keeping its role in battle intact

Change the charge up for the Blitzers long time between shots and I'd like it.

Puni-scorch. More like Puny-scorch with that meager dps. Primary weapons may have different roles, but they should all be good at killing things. Purifier is bad at killing all types of targets. Stagger is nice, but its damage output is abysmal for a primary or a support weapon. It also just isn't fun to use. I love many sub-optimal weapons and strategems because they are fun. This one is simply aggravating.

The Punisher works like a mortar at open range. The range is quite long, although you have to learn to find the right angle. But then it is able to kill enemies. "Mortar mode" does not work well in rugged areas, and you need luck to lead shots right. Ingame i like take ammo backpack and stun greades to get time to kill inswarming bugs.

Would hate dealing with 2 support weapons on higher difficulty

I like the purifier!

There are guns that I really enjoy using, but when playing the game you usually want to play on higher difficulty to get more bang for buck and therefore want to use the higher tier weapons.

I'll say that it stun locks everything short of a hulk, but landing the shot is a minor issue as the projectile is paper thin small

Saying the purifier is good is like saying the spear lock on is great 😂

I love the purifier, but really cant find use cases for it when the plasma punisher just seems better in every situation but the longest of distances. And even then, once you get used to the arc you can hit some pretty long shots. Sure it doesn't have as much ammo, but with its larger effective blast radius, it doesn't really need it 😅

What's that armor set in the thumbnail?

but why do you want to stun enemies when you can just.. you know, kill them, with other weapons?

"you see, its a punisher plasma that sucks." xD

Idk, don't want to be mean in any way, but it's either a good bait or a trolling attempt. If it's not - it's just some "I want to believe" type of video. Why do I even to comment on that? I just don't like even the slightest chance that this video may give devs some idea that they are doing good at balancing. Let's go by time stamps: 1:10 True thing, it's not a reliable weapon. Case closed 1:41 So apparently we are calling bad weapons niche now? Funny word? 1:54 It's plasma punisher with "charge up to shoot" mechanic. 2:50 Why do you need to "sustainably crowd control" when plasma punisher can just wipe this said crowd?? 3:47 Ammo? It litters every map. Aim? Absolutely not a problem for plasma punisher Distance? The only FAIR point here. 4:16 Scorcher can deal with crowds just because it deals enough damage. 4:35 comparison just send me into outer heaven, sorry. I'll bring you an analogy. Let's see... My weight is much lower than John Cena's! That means he's obese and absolutely fat!!! Also I can most likely overpower a cat! That means I'm hella strong😂😂🤣🤣 My take: Bad weapon. Design is good looking, but it must not be "pushed against all odds". It must be actively conveyed to devs that this gun is hot garbage. It's basically plasma punisher, but with charge up that does nothing except delaying the shots. If after charge up it's damage would become like 350 or 400 or higher - there would be a point in using it and talking about it. Right now it's, honestly, call it as you like, but it's just bad. Niche, not for all, not reliable, support... Nah. Just Bad. This simple. Sorry, didn't mean to offend you (but wanted to offend the gun)

I don't see the advantage of the purifier over the punisher plasma which does the same thing, with more splash damage and no charge up. Range I guess, but you could just use the AMR as your support weapon with the punisher plasma.

Problem of purifier is the fact, that its designed around difficulty 6 or 7 at best, while players want weapons for diff 9, in which charge up is significant con for a relative weak weapon. It needs either a dmg buff, or complete rework

It's interesting that you made this video before its buff. I still think it's underwhelming, but I think the buffs it got made it more practical for using the way you described: sustained CC. I will give it another shot, since I love the Plasma Punisher, but I don't think your argument that it has better effective range is right. I admit, this is a bit of a "skill issue" argument, but the arc of the Plasma Punisher can be used to your benefit, to hit enemies you can't see, from behind cover, etc. The ammo argument is a definite win, though: almost double the ammo of the Plasma Punisher for roughly similar stats at the cost of arc and fire rate? Gotta try it again.

They need to double the damage and half the magazine capacity. That way the DPS is higher while flexibility is lower. This change would meaningfully differentiate it between the other plasma weapons. It’s just a worse version of the Scorcher right now when it should really be the plasma equivalent to a grenade launcher.

I *really* wanted to like this gun but the slow fire rate and god awful DPS felt so sluggish compared to anything else I had access to. I've enjoyed using the Blitzer in a crowd control role, but generally if I want to control a crowd I just... fire up the Scorcher, Stalwart, or even a Dominator and remove them from my line of sight. I don't know what this gun needs to truly feel good but it's just not in a great place right now.

1:55 objection. it's not a sniper-rifle crossed with a grenade launcher, that was the eruptor at launch (diligence CS with a baby frag-grenade within). The Purifier is an upscaled Scorcher (100 damage plasma-ball light 2 pen) with the puni-plas (150 med1 pen AoE) explosion (rather than the 100 on the scorcher), with the sights & charge-mechanism of the arc-gun. it lacks the benefits off all 3 of those otherwise useful weapons. it lacks the snap-shot of the scorcher, the sustained AoE of the puni-plas and the auto-aim of the arcgun. hell it's not even a true med-pen weapon as only the xbow has less AoE pen than it (but the xbow does 270! med2 direct damage) So the xbow does in MORE a single direct hit BEFORE the (light2 150) AoE vs what the purifier does in total (and a 2/5 bias towards light2 pen). nothing will stop you liking things i'm guessing that maybe it's the the total ammo-load combined with the med-pen AoE potential that's drawn you in? 15*7*150 (15750) vs the puni-plas 8/9/150 (10800) is a LOT more overall boom and for context the GL SUPPORT weapon has 10500 total AoE damage in it's ammo (GL is a glorified primary that takes up a strat slot), eruptor sits down at 6650 now and scorcher 10500. Eruptor has well and truly been butchered beyond use. TBH it's not as "bad" as many make out (given enough time and but it does FEEL terrible to use.

If the purifier had 1. a better scope, and 2. just a little better damage, it’s be fun as a marksmanish version of the plas punisher, as it is the plas punisher is just more versatile and usable at the same ranges

I consistently 2-shot striders and can easily clear fodder bots. The stun is fantastic when being rushed down by groups of those chainsaw bots. I will say, the purifier does feel incredibly weak against devastators and hulks though. However, when paired with the auto cannon, I find its not a bad primary.

I really want to like the purifier because it's a super cool concept, but the correct way to use it is to use the plasma punisher instead and get good. The extra range isn't relevant when you shouldn't be alerting enemies that far away anyway and the punisher can hit behind cover.

Blitzer look pretty good also.

I like the idea of the purifier as a weapon and as much as I would like to use it, it's just not viable in any high difficulty mission. And let me make it clear I don't use meta loadouts ever. This weapon needs a shorter charge and a buff that allows your charged shot to explode upon impact, the higher you charge the higher the damage. That would at least make it usable, the crowd control aspect you are talking about does not work when there are at least 2 other weapons that do the same thing but infinitely better such as the Blitzer and the Pummeler which was even released in the same warbond.

The Purifier would be a lot nice to use if they made it full auto, just hold the trigger down, instead of having to let go of the trigger to fire.

man even after 3 videos I'm not convinced, I don't see a reason to use it if thr projectile is the same as plasma punisher

don't know how they be claiming it has the same fire rate as scorcher though.

Purifier feels like straight downgrade from Plasma Punisher and doesnt bring anything valueable in exchange for dramatically lower ROF. By taking Purifier you are just make youself weaker by default.Maybe on lower difficulties it may pass unnoticed, but on helldive you'll just gona wish you'd take basic Liberator instead.

you do you .)

8:23 that was painful to watch. A small group of light armor enemies pushed you to the edge of the map with this gun. I think these videos are silly because once they get buffed you'll love it and then this video will just prove that the weapon was indeed underpowered and unfun for most players. They give the purifier a good buff it'll probably be in the top 3 loadouts players bring at least until the next war bond

Against Bots I would absolutely swap out EATs for Precision Strike. LC can take out everything the EATs can and the PS has a lot of utility.