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I just discovered THIS instrument was ERASED from American history

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Mountain Home - Jerrel D

Mountain Home - Jerrel D

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Zithers were used and owned in the United States throughout the 1800s but so little documentation and history exists regarding these instruments. The number of surviving specimens is also suspiciously low. Composer Jerrel Dulay researches the topic of the used of Zithers during the Wild West.

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@MountainHomeJerrel
@MountainHomeJerrel Ай бұрын
Have you ever played a zither?
@TanCreti
@TanCreti Ай бұрын
Hi Jerrel and All. Great topic. As you get more information, you may want to contact an active Autoharp historian living in Denver Colorado. I will be leading the hymns on my autoharp at church today. One item to consider in the choice of any instrument is the extreme difficulty of lugging it over hills and across river fords. The stagecoach just couldn't handle a piano.(smile) I started the autoharp while working on an Indian reservation in New Mexico in the early 1970's because it was portable. I have a wonderful image of the autoharp used in The Salvation Army.
@MrDowntemp0
@MrDowntemp0 Ай бұрын
Can't wait to hear what you've discovered! Perhaps there's some historians from the period, or music historians with KZfaq channels that would be willing to collab on this topic.
@MountainHomeJerrel
@MountainHomeJerrel Ай бұрын
I'd really like to meet other historians in person to discuss the topic but that's tough as I live in Australia. I've just uploaded my first video with music using wild west era zithers.
@slowerpicker
@slowerpicker Ай бұрын
Fun topic! My hunch is they were played (poorly) to accompany church meetings and the like, and folks just got weary of the sound and started making fun. Never underestimate the power of shame influence minds and erase history. But teasing temperance dogooders might have been only one factor. (Be interesting to see if Mark Twain ever piled on, etc). Another reason might be the billion or so strings they need and the comparatively thin sound they make (honestly not much more than a lap dulcimer, which requires only a few strings and a tin ear to play). As I’m sure it’s clear, I’m not a huge fan of the instrument, though I don’t lack sympathy. I play the banjo, so I know a bit about the jokes people make. Still, even I have standards. I remember encountering a band of autoharp players in the dark at the Swannanoa Gathering one year- basically I ran for my life. You might contact Ron Pen at the University of Kentucky. He’s a right decent autoharp player and a fount of traditional music wisdom.
@MountainHomeJerrel
@MountainHomeJerrel Ай бұрын
It's great to hear from you! I love the imagery of encountering a circle of what sounds like a robed and hooded autoharp cultists in the dark! In particular, I'm not referring to Autoharps but specifically zithers from the 1800s. An autoharp is only one member of a huge family of instruments that branched off from the German zither; some growing strange mechanisms and gizmos to produce unique sounds, others changing their string configurations to allow for specialization in different kinds of music. I enjoyed hearing your ideas! I've got a lot of information to share but I'm verifying and searching for more sources to ensure my information is reliable.
@BarryJacksonVocalist
@BarryJacksonVocalist Ай бұрын
Hi bud just a heads up from your british compatriet the reason the zither disappeared from the history books as it were, is mainly because it went through a metamophosis and became the autoharp so you see it never really disappeared it just got better, what those old zither players wouldnt give to play the auto harp
@MountainHomeJerrel
@MountainHomeJerrel Ай бұрын
G'day from Australia! It's great to hear from you. In this case, I'm not referring to the evolution of chord zithers into the Autoharp. Instead, I'm discussing the retroactive removal of all mention of zither use in American history during the Gold Rush and Wild West eras (from around 1849- 1895). The topic in question is specific to this time period in USA. I am a bit envious you live in Europe where you have much more ready access to a wide range of zithers (antique or otherwise). Availability is sparse here in Australia!
@BarryJacksonVocalist
@BarryJacksonVocalist Ай бұрын
@@MountainHomeJerrel yeah i guess, i like the new concert zither actually it sounds great im gonna get one at some point n put it through an eventide H9 pedal, i have two auto harps and a mountain dulcimer
@SuperShecky
@SuperShecky Ай бұрын
I'd guess zither use fell a good deal along ethnic lines. And fell out of use as those ethnicities were Americanized and adopted English more widely. The zither doesn't seem to have significant roots in Scots-Irish traditions in North America (outside the mountain dulcimer, which is a curious mystery in itself), but was stronger among non English speaking European immigrants from places like Germany/Austria. Things like zither clubs were likely more common in such ethnic enclaves, and their existence may be the kind of minutia overlooked by historians documenting such communities, often decades after the fact. Especially historians who may not be particularly knowledgeable about music. I'd also guess that zithers may have not had significant adoption among popular touring musical acts, such as minstrel shows, which drew strongly from Afro/Scots-Irish traditions. Zither orchestras would have had limited appeal and viability outside their ethnic enclaves. That's not to say zithers were never adopted. Just that they probably saw weaker adoption than other portable instruments such as violin, banjo and guitar. I'd be curious to find how often zither based acts were successful in the early vaudeville era, which sometimes exploited the novelty of unusual instruments and acts successfully.
@MountainHomeJerrel
@MountainHomeJerrel Ай бұрын
Great to hear from you. Thanks for adding your perspective and information. According to rare and sparse sources, Zithers were a huge part of American culture in the late 1800s and early 1900s and were quite popular. They would have continued to grow more ingrained in US culture. They were unfortunately included in a purposeful stigmatisation and erasure in the early 1900s. I'm searching for and verifying more sources of information before presenting my findings.
@peetsnort
@peetsnort Ай бұрын
I grew up inthe 70s and i remember my folks record with carl somebody..quite popular in the day. That spy movie used a zither
@MountainHomeJerrel
@MountainHomeJerrel Ай бұрын
@@peetsnort that's awesome. I'd like to have some vinyls with zither recordings. Do you mean the movie The Third Man?
@louisepettersson7636
@louisepettersson7636 Ай бұрын
What kind of Zither is that?I don't know anything of Zithers in the US but Sweden we used to have chord zithers and they were mainly used for accompanying often religious music. It was an instrument used in free church settings and was invented in the 1890s.
@MountainHomeJerrel
@MountainHomeJerrel Ай бұрын
Lovely to hear from you. This was patented and produced in USA in the 1880s. The internal makers mark describes it as a Symphony Harp No. 5. It is interesting into hat it has two layers of strings; a group for chords and underneath diatonic strings for melody. They are extremely rare. I am finishing the restoration and will make videos about it. Thanks for sharing your experiences with Chord zithers in Sweden. I Harpeleiks I am repairing.
@penfold7800
@penfold7800 Ай бұрын
Have you spoken to any Amish people? Also it's possible they were removed from history during prohibition years. I can imagine them being used in Bordellos, played by women. In The UK, I'm fairly sure that the heirarchy of the Victorian era had them. Rather romantically, I can imagine one being played in the quarters of concubines in eastern countries when they spent time together.
@MountainHomeJerrel
@MountainHomeJerrel Ай бұрын
@@penfold7800 I've tried but Amish people are really bad about checking their DMs. In all seriousness, that's an interesting Avenue to pursue for research! These particular zithers were indeed designed and built toward the end of the Victorian era. Thank you for the message! I'll do further research.
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