Then why didn't the doj arrest and charge the people that were protesting around the justices houses during the roe versus Wade consideration?

And yet not one charge against those who interrupted and obstructed the Kavanaugh hearing!

So a GRANDMOTHER walking thru the halls is an INSURRECTIONIST ---- But Ray Epps Saying GO INSIDE GO INSIDE is not !

Imagine believing a building is more important than the multiple cities looted, burnt, and rioted.

Why weren’t the people protesting outside the Supreme Court justices houses? They were never charged!!

The Kavanaugh protesters tried to break through the doors

I remember seeing Nancy Pelosi rip up Trump's State of the Union address on national television. Why wasn't she prosecuted?

So according to the lawyer.. the ex principal that pulled the alarm should be in jail than 😂😢

Gas is high, food is high, utilities are high, interest rates are high...but here we are still going on about 1/6. What a sad, pathetic government we have right now. And these people think they're doing something important. It's like listening to the dumb question or statement at a work meeting. People just wanting to be heard and hear themselves talk.

Would this be interfering with official business? “I want to tell you Gorsuch. I want to tell you Kavanaugh. You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.” - Chuck Schumer

She JUST DESCRIBED RAY EPPS … the ONLY one who wasn’t held accountable FOR ACTUAL Inciting of violence ….

Would pulling a fire alarm to delay a vote be illegal as well?

As if the supreme court does not understand the whole reason behind this .What a circus act this whole justice system has become. God help us.

Destroy documents, PELOSI STATE OF UNION

Deciding who, what and why in charging individuals has been clearly done with pure political motives under the current executive branch.

What about the lgbtq taking over the capital? What charges were brought. What about state capitals being breached

In other words, you only get charged if your on the right side of the aisle.

You mean, like the protesters did with the Kavanagh hearing.?

I'd like a justice to ask one simple question... what if those instigators were actually undercover fbiagents whose only purpose being there is to force this action of entering the capital, so they could indeed charge the crowd with a crime? Because we all know, that IS what happened here.

So it doesn't matter that Ray Epps stayed outside?

Organizers. You mean Ray epps?

Is it reasonable to believe that pulling a fire alarm intending to clear a court bench or a speaker chair could be construed as obstruction? ...and therefore be a punishable offense.

What if you show the police moving barriers and waving protesters in? Oh yeah, they already showed us that video….

The ringleader? That was the FBI in the crowd who was inciting

Thomas keeps making the argument that the electoral count proceeding was briefly interrupted and able to resume, therefore no different than any temporary protest or sit in.

I'd think the natural follow-up question here would be "why hasn't the DOJ gone after any of the countless left-wing protestors who have interrupted official proceedings?"

It's so funny when people think they are smarter than ACB. No one in that room is smarter than that woman.

Has the defense argued the fact that many of the protestors were let in by the Capital Police which, for those defendants who were let in, nullifies the government’s argument?

The only problem with these lawyers lines of thinking is that we the people are the creators of government. We have ALL political power to change government in any way we want and at any time we want. We also have the right to inform and instruct the government of the law. The law also states that elections are to be by the people. Any election where the federal government has provided funds or is run by a foreign power (out of state companies, election machines, are foreign under the law) is illegal and unconstitutional as they are not run by the people according to the law. So when the people are seeking remedy and desire to enter Congress to ensure the will of the people is done. The "obstruction" that was done was the obstruction of the people's rights. Government has no "right" to anything, government only has the powers expressly written in the Constitution to act for the benefit of the people. What happened on J6, the denial of the people's rights, the denial of the Congress to slow down hear the people hear and investigate the evidence before moving to a vote, the people denied entry into their government chambers, the people that were assaulted and murdered on J6... These were the crimes that occurred on J6. Any person that damaged the people's property is also liable, many of these people were never charged with crimes, as the people suspect they were the government damaging and destroying the people's property. Read and know your State and Federal Constitutions!

Ray E P P s video still out there for anyone to look up

Actually Justice Roberts made a very good argument saying c2 (catch all) is limited by c1 alluding to a previous case they ruled on a week ago. I think it wil be a 6-3 or a 5-4 cuz ACB sounds iffy.

There's no bullshit like the bullshit that goes on in a courtroom.

someone opened the door and let them in.

Are they discussing the representative that set off the fire alarm to delay a vote on the house floor?

Jack Smith's case will fall apart as soon as the Supreme Courts decision comes out

EPPS WAS FBI

Did they not consider Ray Epps to be a ringleader?

It was a guided tour

We the people just want peace, justice and safety. We want our UNITED STATES OF AMERICA to what it used to be. Please!!!!Do not play with our constitution. Leave it the same as our founding fathers wanted it to be…

They are reaching so hard with this one

Considering that the 1st Amendment guarantees our RIGHT to peaceably assemble to protest the government, I think this case should be moot

Why exactly wasn't Ray Epps prosecuted and jailed for this exactly since he was encouraging others to go in the capital. What about the guy who breached and high 5'd the guard?

Thank you judge

Why was the democrat who pulled the alarm not charged with the same offense the January 6 demonstrators.

Absolute Joke all these.people still in jail for this SHIT!

This lawyer is clueless about RIGHT to protest against a government. Disruption is the key to protest.

Thank you

It's harmless air when you're charging wrong.But when you're doing an act that isn't illegal it's not harmless

The Hypocrites are soo disgusting!!!

It's a CLOWN SHOW...C'mon Man :)

How about the 'INTENT' of those in attendance that were in fact FBI???!!! 😮

Regarding earlier in the discussion would the destruction of documents include retarding proceedings or would it also include things like Pelosi’s tearing of the state of the union address?

Lord God please give victory to Fisher

I am 70 and understand why we have laws, dating back to King John in the 13th century...at least. I never wanna be in a world where people who might be deciding my fate are debating over verbs and adverbs. And so far so good.😎

They'll ask many questions but nothing will ever get resolved no stone left unturned it's all a sham it's all a lie

Ray Epps

Wasn't this law enacted as a result of Enron's willful destruction of documents? It's more than quite a stretch to state in front of SCOTUS that Congress envisioned it being used so broadly for situations like this.

Just makes me wanna 🤮 at the 2 tiers of justice.

I find this completely ironic because the justices had picked picketers and protesters outside of the residences to change or repeat that means that every one of them should be in jail based upon the states of the federal government argument, and they weren’t double standard unequal justice under the law

Big nothing burger let them out.. trump 2024

I believe that the Wickedpedia context statement is wrong.

The problem with the prosecution's argument is that right from the get-go the crowd was not only let into the Capitol they were encouraged by many (who we already know) and by the Capitol police so in fact there was no breech and then things became rowdy with a few unruly citizens. So, with that many people at the Capital why didn't the C-Police get onto their megaphones in the first place and say "Keep back" instead of letting them in in such a vigorous way? So, in fact Amy Comey Barrett brought up a very good point about that very same thing.

So, when does the intent of Pelosi & her cabal get brought into the hearings???? THAT is the criminal activity that took place.

Valley girl DOJ lawyer is a joke

When you get into the weeds she’s arguing that the only conservative’s who protests should be punished.

The justices need to use the example of Justin Jones and Justin Pearson in Tennessee as an example here. How would their in-chamber protesters be considered under the breadth of this argument? Intent was there, leadership was directing protestors, official proceedings were most definitely impeded. Would those protestors be prosecuted as presented?

This needs to be overturned. The enron law has nothing to do with this.

The DOJ now presents themselves as mind readers.

The Sarbanes-Oxley Act has nothing to do with this! I can’t even believe this has even gotten this far. How can SCOTUS even entertain such a broad and out of bounds application of a law that is intended to protect investors from financial fraud? This is so insane.

That was fruitless.

Quick, every criminal take advantage to commit crimes, you wont be charged for all of them!

ray epps defeats all this.

Let me paraphase.....people connected to DParty gets a pass. RParty will get 10 to 20 years on the can. (Simple English.)

What about a congressman pulling the fire alarm to prevent a vote???

I guess they are throwing out the statutory construction rules of leniety (strict construction), ambiguity, and over breadth.

This AG has been found out

People that were there had no desire to obstruct the proceedings. They wanted congress to review.

The prosecutors voice..... argghhh

The “nexus” requirement?? Her own little creation.

Why was Rey Ebbs not charged with instigating violence ?????

Of course it’s harmless error for them

You don't have intent full stop .. especially for Trump

I'm starting to like ACB. She was brought on as a Conservative but minus Roe she's proving to be a Moderate.

However, if We the People believe the government is corrupt and tyrannical, the people are fighting for a just cause. This is in violation of our right to self govern.

Proves is a two-tier justice system

I think something fishy is going on......

Does this include pulling a fire alarm????? Just sayin. Same thing. His actions were deliberate and nothing happened.

Why is Ray Epes getting off? He was the leader.

Ring leaders, like Ray? Where is Ray these days? FBI got him hidding?

@3:41 BAM! Justice Barrett addressed what I was saying in another post that I will repost here: "The issue here that I believe the Solicitor General is communicating is "corrupt" intent. However, "influences" as per Title 18 Section 1512 (c) (2) is unconstitutional. Someone's intent to influence any official proceeding, as a catch all, is an unconstitutional application of the law per the 1st Amendment "Petition" clause. Mens Rea (or not) on intent of Petition is non-reviewable as it is unconstutional for such a law to exist per the plain language of the 1st Amendment. I am not an attorney and this shouldn't constitute legal advice. (Dems seem to be defining "corruptly" as being any Republican political view. In doing so they are illegally weaponizing the Justice Department for political partiality.)"

Organizers, uuummmm like Rae Epps

This DoJ lawyer is absolutely frightening Sge sounds like a @itch

Sounds like she is doing Jim nastiest to get it to go her way to me

Advocacy is often not fully truthful, advances the arguments of the client. Does Prelogar actually believe that Congress intended to criminalize protests that intend to disrupt congressional hearings, etc? Here, like the polished advocate that she is, she unhesitatingly asserts that, certainly, Congress had just this in mind when it passed SarbOx in response to the destruction of documents by Arthur Andersen in the Enron case.

Should be on a one on one base, depending on who did what could be one day could be 20 yrs

Word salad

It's in how you read the statue lol what?

God help us. This is a joke, a sick joke that clarifies our ultimate destruction.

Its time to charge Jan.6th commite for deleting all the evidence from they 'er invvestigation. Thats definatly under this interperation by the lawyers for D.O G.

They sound like middle schoolers. Whats with their voices?