'I knew.. that was it': Suburban man describes his experience on Titan sub

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NBC Chicago

NBC Chicago

Жыл бұрын

A suburban Chicago man who was among the first to journey in the Titan submersible describes his experience and what he believes happened as the saga surrounding the vessel reaches a tragic end.

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@mikemontemurro8088
@mikemontemurro8088 Жыл бұрын
The fact that they did not even clean up the spilled almonds inside the titan before the next trip says everything
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI Жыл бұрын
Lmao idk why this made me chuckle
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I picked up on that, too. It's pretty telling.
@backdoorsluts_9
@backdoorsluts_9 Жыл бұрын
Right im a housekeeper and the second he said that I was like 😬😬 I know that’s not the point but man that grossed me out 😂😂
@18alex
@18alex Жыл бұрын
@@backdoorsluts_9 housekeeper that goes by the name backdoorsluts
@ddtk85
@ddtk85 Жыл бұрын
@@18alex😂😂😂😂
@user-ww2wr6ku5x
@user-ww2wr6ku5x Жыл бұрын
This guy was quite literally one of the lucky ones.
@laurenurban3942
@laurenurban3942 Жыл бұрын
I’m thinking to myself, he should go play lotto.
@briantampa1164
@briantampa1164 Жыл бұрын
​@@laurenurban3942Hahaha for real
@baffledbybullshit-
@baffledbybullshit- Жыл бұрын
Yup. Admits it was unproven and still took a ride
@sosteve9113
@sosteve9113 Жыл бұрын
Followed his gut feeling,good for him
@alexshatner3907
@alexshatner3907 Жыл бұрын
There is your answer, nothing ever happen to him because he was the camera man
@VAPIDISM
@VAPIDISM Жыл бұрын
He made an interesting slip of the tongue when he talked of the dive he went on he said “That was an experiment (then corrected himself) an experience in itself” . I think he was right the first time. It was essentially still an experimental craft and all those passenger paid a lot of money to be guinae pigs.
@markkulyas2418
@markkulyas2418 Жыл бұрын
Those passengers signed a waiver in black and white that said they were being used as a guinea pig on an experimental sub. They read it and they signed it and then they died.
@chuckfan1
@chuckfan1 Жыл бұрын
He meant to say "experience", just a misspeak... don't read that much into it
@ZacharyWill
@ZacharyWill Жыл бұрын
He was trying to give us a secret message. Did you see his body language and blinks? He had all nice things to say. Blink blink. Then at the very end he was like hell no I wouldn’t go on that thing you crazy?! I’m pretty sure he’s being held captive.
@VAPIDISM
@VAPIDISM 11 ай бұрын
@@chuckfan1 oh I am aware of what he meant to say. I am pointing out the irony of his mistake, because the craft was in fact experimental.
@michellemooresings
@michellemooresings 11 ай бұрын
​@@ZacharyWilluhhhh
@Splash-nr8ot
@Splash-nr8ot Жыл бұрын
Think of how many times you made a stupid decision and still got lucky. He's one of them.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI Жыл бұрын
Right lol his face got that "damn I got lucky" look
@alexandraalbertz1442
@alexandraalbertz1442 Жыл бұрын
Does he realize that? He called the company professional
@tropicanaborgatta8335
@tropicanaborgatta8335 Жыл бұрын
@@alexandraalbertz1442 Something is missing in him in my opinion. Or in anyone who does that, at least in THAT thing.
@alexandraalbertz1442
@alexandraalbertz1442 Жыл бұрын
@@tropicanaborgatta8335 i think is the element of fear. But they have elements we do not have. Great adventure, thrill seeking etc. I am passionate about Everest (to read about it not to go there) and there are a different kind of people. We need to respect their decissions. They made it at full capacity. They knew the risks and they paid the consequences. We do not have to judge them. God rest them in peace.
@lastcommodore2071
@lastcommodore2071 Жыл бұрын
... like a lot of drivers on the roads these days.
@krishnamohammed6951
@krishnamohammed6951 Жыл бұрын
Celebrating a CEO who thought he knew more about the industry than every other industry expert. Its that type of hubris that got all 5 of them killed. He gambled with other people's lives and finally an unfortunate few had to pay the price.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI Жыл бұрын
Guy was a moron, I only feel bad for the 4 men who trusted him with their lives
@SI29222
@SI29222 Жыл бұрын
No one even knows the exact cause yet
@stevemuzak8526
@stevemuzak8526 Жыл бұрын
He even said some racist things about white people. He hated his own kind. He was far left woke lunatic blinded by his vision.
@TheMythicalAce
@TheMythicalAce Жыл бұрын
​@@SI29222 Catastrophic implosion was the cause. The hull was not structurally sound at that depth, and though the OceanGate Titan had made the trip safely many times before, that doesn't mean the sub itself was able to handle that level of pressure.
@jlv3x
@jlv3x Жыл бұрын
​@@SI29222 we don't know what part of the submersible failed, but we do know that the design and use of carbon fiber in that manner would eventually fail. That's what ever expert told Rush and he proved all of them right. We also know that submersibles have been going down to the Titanic for 30 years, and this flowed design is the only one that failed.
@sickntired6241
@sickntired6241 Жыл бұрын
Omg this man actually said “a company as professional as OcenGate”??? I am an engineer with 27 years of experience and I will say it now. Corners were cut, materials and equipment used were NOT of the highest standards by any means, inspections and tests were few and the truth will all come out! This should NEVER have happened. There are two ways to do things. The right way and the way OceanGate did them.
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct. Unbelievable this was somehow allowed to even take place. Surely there was some appointed Authority that would and should have prevented this insane risk-taking with unsuspecting and uninformed people's lives?
@crankfotton
@crankfotton Жыл бұрын
agreed. you would think billionaires would consult another professional with a simple "hey man, do you think this thing is safe??" they are constantly performing the due diligence to protect and grow their wealth, but when it comes to their life? sheeesh....
@bryonraper3506
@bryonraper3506 Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@chrismurray4439
@chrismurray4439 Жыл бұрын
Being wealthy doesn't make you smart. That's what I got from watergate.
@crankfotton
@crankfotton Жыл бұрын
@@chrismurray4439 my guess is they were putting the same faith they would in a commercial airline pilot into this Oceangate guy
@herobetty
@herobetty Жыл бұрын
This is a prime example of why engineering should NEVER cut corners for the sake of money, especially when lives are at stake!
@samscarletta7433
@samscarletta7433 11 ай бұрын
Especially when you are dealing with THE OCEAN at depths. 🤯 Stockton Stockton Rush was Insane.
@khp1244
@khp1244 11 ай бұрын
​@@samscarletta7433Insane: AND a con artist and narcissist.
@emmybecaley0729
@emmybecaley0729 11 ай бұрын
The sub was built with cheaper equipment, and they charged 250,000 $ per person for the ride.
@electrictroy2010
@electrictroy2010 11 ай бұрын
*should HAVE (not should of) *would have (not would of) .
@RelTheKing
@RelTheKing 11 ай бұрын
Yeah. All the trips he's taken with it he could've built a submersible suitable for diving that deep. They've been doing it for decades now and he didn't care to take note from them smh.
@brinsonharris9816
@brinsonharris9816 Жыл бұрын
I’m not an engineer, never served as a submariner in the US Navy, but as much as the Titanic has always fascinated me, one look at that contraption would have made me take a hard pass on a dive on it.
@USA92
@USA92 Жыл бұрын
Gee you'd think violating a grave sight would be enough of an incentive. But hey if you dont have a surviving family member to convince you of your illness go fo it! On some other vessel if you get that chance. Oh by the way sir or madam! Do you mind if I get a craft and dig around your families grave(s)?
@annakeye
@annakeye 11 ай бұрын
Being bolted in from the outside is such a cheap-arse solution and then you've got the game controller, wiring plastic tied to the outside and laptops that could fly around if they lost control, no seating or restraints. Yup, I'm with you. I wouldn't take that thing in a puddle.
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts 11 ай бұрын
@@annakeye being bolted in is fine if there is an explosive bolt backup system in case if it has to come to the surface unexpectedly
@arianaajbeaverhausen8175
@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 11 ай бұрын
I don't like the word "explosive" there, is that really a thing? (Genuinely curious, like OP I'm not a marine engineer or anything close. 😁)
@brinsonharris9816
@brinsonharris9816 11 ай бұрын
@@arianaajbeaverhausen8175 Yes, explosive bolts are a real thing. If you saw The Right Stuff, the explosive bolts blew the hatch off of Gus Grissom’s (Fred Ward played him) space capsule on splash down and it flooded and sank. When the Space Shuttle was being tested for its glide to landing, explosive bolts separated the Shuttle from atop the 747. In the 1967 Apollo 1 disaster that killed Grissom, Ed White and Roger Chaffee, there were no explosive bolts and no way for them to get out from inside, and the fire expanded and tightened the hatch so much it could not be opened even from the outside. They’re a last ditch safety/emergency exit system. Many military jets have them to jettison the canopy or hatch so the pilot/crew can eject, and they fire first when the ejection is initiated. The seat and crew follow milliseconds later and a solid fueled rocket fires them away from the airplane. All happens in about 2 seconds. Explosive bolts would not have saved the 5 people in the Titan disaster, but would have allowed them to get out if they’d made it to the surface and not been found before their air supply was exhausted. They’d have suffocated if not found quickly because they could not open it from inside. I’m not an engineer, just a life long aerospace nerd who reads up on this stuff.
@parrotladder9025
@parrotladder9025 Жыл бұрын
Sure go if you have years behind you and fully understand the risk- but to allow a young person on board ….heart breaking
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- Жыл бұрын
It's sad for sure that a 19 year old kid died, but it's also ironic, we regularly send off "men" of a similar age to die in wars, they just often happen to be poor.. When it's the son of a wealthy businessman they are suddenly innocent children. Again, not saying I disagree with the idea he was a innocent kid, but we as a society are pretty hypocritical and value some lives over others.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI Жыл бұрын
​@@-Zevin-You're not lying. Had this been a poor or brown kid I doubt the sympathies would've been like this. RIP to all of them
@sabotaj4460
@sabotaj4460 Жыл бұрын
He was a rich brown kid I believe he was Pakistani
@-Zevin-
@-Zevin- Жыл бұрын
@@sabotaj4460 Keyword here being "rich". People all too often get hung up on racism and ignore the all to real and very prevalent classism.
@knarftrakiul3881
@knarftrakiul3881 Жыл бұрын
​@@lonerebeIyour average person would care regardless of color
@fj5144
@fj5144 Жыл бұрын
Why would you bring your teenage child on such a risky adventure? Even if my child begged me to go I would have said no. This is even more sad when you read reports of the 19-year-old son telling a family member he was terrified and was only going to please his Titanic-obsessed father.
@llove5434
@llove5434 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, why would u allow them to do that?
@jjk.-xj8ys
@jjk.-xj8ys Жыл бұрын
Pakistani parents are very very pressuring, it can get suffocating but regardless of that the son is a angel, he wanted to spend father's day with his father.. oh my heart is in pieces. I cannot imagine how painful that would be. Fly high Suleman Dawood 🕊️
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
The whole attitude throughout was one of chasing an adrenalin rush regardless of risk or consequences - similar to what you feel as a kid when going on a Disney theme park type ride. Totally irresponsible and totally stupid. If death traps for tourists is what some people refer to as 'research' or 'exploration', I say they need get a grip on reality.
@FrankBullitt390
@FrankBullitt390 Жыл бұрын
Find the video of the father and son from Vegas that backed out last minute and that father and son replaced them. Vegas family did their research and said "oh hell no". The CEO was texting them and had even lowered the price to $150K
@muziccat
@muziccat Жыл бұрын
Awful
@lennybrewster4673
@lennybrewster4673 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how many people agreed to get bolted into a tin can to see rusted wreckage. This company was very secretive about how much that tin can was an actual tin can.
@mikewillett5076
@mikewillett5076 Жыл бұрын
I can't wrap my head around even the owner knowingly going down to insane pressures with a sub made with questionable strength, even told it's only good for a quarter of that pressure. I wouldn't go 12,000 feet even if it was rated for 30,000. Nope.
@luigidimario
@luigidimario Жыл бұрын
​@@mikewillett5076 I feel like billionaires in particular believe they're invincible. They are so far removed from their fellow humans they think they're an entirely separate entity and that nothing that applies to others applies to them. They are also incredibly arrogant. Nothing could possibly go wrong for THEM, until it does.
@lennybrewster4673
@lennybrewster4673 11 ай бұрын
@luigidimario yup they got a weird complex that they're going to save the world because they're smarter than everyone. They're not stupid (usually) but they live in an alternate reality for sure.
@chuckh4077
@chuckh4077 11 ай бұрын
Ikr they can instead stay a few nights at the Queen mary ship hotel in longbeach CA. Looks like the Titanic.
@rejim.philip9431
@rejim.philip9431 11 ай бұрын
tbh, i would as well.
@DelphiAmnestied
@DelphiAmnestied Жыл бұрын
The simple fact that you can have tourists aboard an uncertifiable ship is puzzling.
@TransoceanicOutreach
@TransoceanicOutreach 11 ай бұрын
It's in international waters, nobody has jurisdiction to regulate it.
@DelphiAmnestied
@DelphiAmnestied 11 ай бұрын
@@TransoceanicOutreach ​ it's a myth. Ship flags serve this purpose. The Convention on the High Seas, which many countries have signed, state that in international waters, any law that applies to the country whose flag the vessel flies is governed by its flag country. Also, The UNCLOS Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), in addition to the laws of the flag country, governs international waters. Despite their role as a means of freedom and exploration, the high seas are still governed by registry and UNCLOS laws. This was clearly a well disguised exploration mission in order to bypass some laws, which Stockton Rush was a specialist in.
@cindymagrum6649
@cindymagrum6649 11 ай бұрын
What happens when you don't fly a flag?
@paulpolpiboon9535
@paulpolpiboon9535 11 ай бұрын
Much of the Ocean estate is simply not regulated, and for whatever laws made there's very little manpower to enforce it, it's almost just the wild wild west out there cuz it's just such a treacherous zone.
@crashland5711
@crashland5711 11 ай бұрын
@@DelphiAmnestied The mothership was the only vessel that was flagged. The deathtrap was not .
@josephvoigt9174
@josephvoigt9174 Жыл бұрын
That stockton guy jeopardized the lives of so many people, everytime he bamboozled them into that submersible trashcan...although he might be considered a visionary to some, his lust for the Titanic and his greedy ambitions ended the lives of those poor souls, especially the 19 year old kid. RIP.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI Жыл бұрын
"Visionary" lol
@ashleycountiss720
@ashleycountiss720 Жыл бұрын
It was all about getting that money for him to make more of those death traps. It’s was out of his hands if something went wrong because they all signed a contract. Greedy.
@transamination
@transamination Жыл бұрын
He wasn't a visionary at all. There are way, way more hi-tech subs than this.
@pearpo
@pearpo Жыл бұрын
I doubt it was all about the money, he risked his life on most if not all of these trips as well. You might want to learn the word "Empathy."
@codyharney2997
@codyharney2997 Жыл бұрын
Each and every passenger chose to take the trip. Noone forced them. They had the option to pick from every single available submarine to take down there. Them not being diligent and choosing the safest possible craft is completely on each of them. I would never have set foot in that coral reef viewing craft. Totally fine to go scoot around the great barrier reef or check out the sea floor in the Bahamas But going to the depths of the ocean without knowledge of the depths, pressures, required specifications, and all other things related is completely reckless. I don't know much about depth traveling but I do know I wouldn't descend in something without a tether, and external air supply line, external power line, remote operation capabilities in case the subs controls malfunction, tracking systems, and either hardline communication systems or at the minimum actual radio communications, and a winch for the mothership to pull the craft back from the depths. The fact that these people didn't think any of that was necessary is what got them this outcome. We get one life. You make your choices. They all made theirs.
@billh.1940
@billh.1940 Жыл бұрын
It is obvious that if something went wrong, you are doomed. 😢 And remember they are going to see an unsinkable ship. Oh! The irony.
@ceasarsalad2055
@ceasarsalad2055 Жыл бұрын
Yea, just look at the freaking 3rd party console controller 🥶
@tropicanaborgatta8335
@tropicanaborgatta8335 Жыл бұрын
and obvious that something WILL go wrong.
@billh.1940
@billh.1940 Жыл бұрын
@@tropicanaborgatta8335 yes, Murphys law in action.
@adriennebennett-dhs-ssc6504
@adriennebennett-dhs-ssc6504 Жыл бұрын
Titanic - Titan(ic). Too eerie!
@AntoinettePalermo-xs6it
@AntoinettePalermo-xs6it Жыл бұрын
I am playing KZfaq’s video “You’re Fucked” especially for you Jogailia, Skirgailia and Jadwiga 666
@sofiacristinak.-cd1nk
@sofiacristinak.-cd1nk Жыл бұрын
"Futility" was a book published in 1898, about 14 years before the Titanic sank. The book was a fictional story about a ship like the Titanic that sank after hitting an iceberg. The name of the ship in the book was "Titan". Ironic that Rush named his submersible Titan. Almost like he was asking for lightning.
@WindTurbineSyndrome
@WindTurbineSyndrome Жыл бұрын
Titans were the gods who preceeded the Greek Gods and of them Oceanus ruled the sea. But you are right names have resonance. The feds are going to crack down on this type of tourism so it doesn't happen again. The US Coast Guard blew their budget for the year on this big rescue so maybe Congress will increase their budget for Y2024. A lot of people in the industry say Congress needs to increase spending on oceanic research.
@MrAddidas2
@MrAddidas2 Жыл бұрын
@@WindTurbineSyndrome The can give em all the money in the world. The ocean will forever remain a mystery and fully unattainable, just like up above. We were put in this specific place for a reason and however this place came 2 be, the only way out is returning back 2 the ground we arose from.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
It also proves that going full speed in an iceberg field, is the dumbest thing one can do. Even a writer knows it.
@brinsonharris9816
@brinsonharris9816 Жыл бұрын
@@WindTurbineSyndromeI think the feds won’t need to do much. After this, who would want to take the chance of getting killed to make the dive? The days of Titanic tourism are pretty much over.
@Crashley83
@Crashley83 Жыл бұрын
They were also gods of the underworld… just saying
@bornaasi8734
@bornaasi8734 Жыл бұрын
To be fair this guy is 91 years old. I don’t think he’s too worried about not making it back versus the 19 year old teenager who died in there
@Amy-tl2xe
@Amy-tl2xe Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and you could tell his age when he said "creative MEN." There are lots of creative women out there, and my guess is that they would be more cautious and sensible.
@colt5189
@colt5189 Жыл бұрын
@@Amy-tl2xe "men" is also short for "human" or "mankind". It doesn't always refer to a particular sex.
@joangrennan886
@joangrennan886 Жыл бұрын
91 yrs old ,O.M.G. he is as bright as a button and looks way way younger .
@WestSideGorilla1980
@WestSideGorilla1980 Жыл бұрын
91! Wow. Looks 70
@fromfreddy
@fromfreddy Жыл бұрын
91!? damn he must be on that TRT. dude looks phenomenal for 91.
@mondop5270
@mondop5270 Жыл бұрын
You have to be accepted😂😂😂 " ummm, you got 500k? Ok, your accepted"😂
@11moleman
@11moleman Жыл бұрын
This guy just swallowed the sales pitch and is too embarrassed or deluded to acknowledge the failure of this entire company.
@hopbup7401
@hopbup7401 Жыл бұрын
Ego. Survivors privileged and can’t publicly admitted they were conned.
@JoeyMartz
@JoeyMartz Жыл бұрын
@@hopbup7401 🙄
@Katie-ry4lj
@Katie-ry4lj Жыл бұрын
I agree. Listening to his glowing review of the company and CEO just baffles me. When all the evidence and substance is saying that this was a money grab and a big safety red flag.
@JonnyMudMower
@JonnyMudMower Жыл бұрын
This was like taking a road trip from new York to Texas in a 1986 chevette with a weak head gasket .
@dodgeking9194
@dodgeking9194 5 күн бұрын
You still would have had a better chance in the Chevette
@peterphan227
@peterphan227 Жыл бұрын
Carbon fiber fatigues under compression very easily and quickly, so making Titan's hull out of carbon fiber was insanely stupid. The hull would have worked perfectly fine for a few dives (which it did), but microscopic fatigue stress fractures would eventually lead to catastrophic failure (which it did). If the Oceangate CEO had put the Titan through certifications, the inspectors would've told him this and not certified the vessel. Of course, that's exactly why Oceangate didn't want to go through the certification process.
@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504
@pleasepermitmetospeakohgre1504 Жыл бұрын
And it would have cost him 20 grand. Not much considering the cost of the journey.
@wanda01141
@wanda01141 Жыл бұрын
Right even James Cameron said that mad years ago someone had the idea to use carbon fiber and James said that's a real and idea back then
@jackhowland3737
@jackhowland3737 Жыл бұрын
You win for best comment. I'm a retired Nuke Safety Guy. You are absolutely correct. I had a lot of "Go-Or-No-Go" say over critical operations, for Governmental and Non Governmental Organizations going back to Sun Ship's Guppy and the Glomar Explorer. This contraption had failure written all over it. His selection of Critical Operators was abysmal. I haven't heard the words Written Procedures on any Podcast or "News Cast". Sheer Narcissism and Greed took this "Crew" down, all the way from the Bilge Mate to the Captain to the Designer.
@turfterf6874
@turfterf6874 Жыл бұрын
Oceangate can't be that professional if the CEO said repeatedly that safety was a waste of money.
@brianglade848
@brianglade848 Жыл бұрын
They weren't, the company officially said they are no more, heard twice people working there, the younger stupid ones,porked in that sub while it was dry docked, and few guys had a circle jerk in it, see what the news doesn't tell ya
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
While charging quarter of a million for a seat in this unsafe vessel.
@MsBombastix
@MsBombastix Жыл бұрын
That submarine was basically a russian roulette of who lived or died. This guy is very lucky to be alive.
@brianglade848
@brianglade848 Жыл бұрын
Looks like The Gambler came and took the wheel
@susanjoycesabo8450
@susanjoycesabo8450 Жыл бұрын
If Titan had been in service for 2-3 years and had completed several round trips to ocean floor, then IMO "material fatigue" was a factor here. That carbon composite had never been used before and the preferred shape--a sphere--was rejected in favor of a cone. Had Titan been a titanium sphere, then this disaster may not have occurred. CEO of Oceangate wanted a cone shape in order to fit more passengers than a sphere.
@sandrabazinet3869
@sandrabazinet3869 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Pressure vessels only can handle a preset number of cycles as you mention. Unfortunately, the people on this trip didn't realize this vessel was done. I seriously doubt the company periodically tested or inspected the vessel based on other reports that they deliberately skirted some safety issues when constructing the vessel because it would cause delays. It sounds like some of the travelers were so enthralled with seeing the Titanic that it outweighed their thoughts about safety. So very sad for the 19 year old boy who wanted to please his dad.
@jackiehornsey1340
@jackiehornsey1340 Жыл бұрын
I have read that the carbon fibre begins to leak microscopically and break down.
@Meowface.
@Meowface. Жыл бұрын
Not to mention, this submersibles hull was carbon fibre… Carbon fibre pressure vessels are common for positive pressure containers.. such as for compressed gasses.. the container under a tension load In the application of a submersible, the hull will be under a compression load Carbon fibre is strong under tension, weak under compression Not an ideal material for this particular application There’s some brilliant engineers and material scientists out there who could make it work I’m sure But I’d imagine the challenges outweigh the benefits for such a small company like this one
@jackiehornsey1340
@jackiehornsey1340 Жыл бұрын
@Davie_Jay ..it's the same with a carbon fibre bike, fine cracks can appear with use.
@revelations2798
@revelations2798 Жыл бұрын
That CEO didn't impress me at all.
@tinahochstetler2189
@tinahochstetler2189 Жыл бұрын
He just said exactly what I've been thinking all along. People that went down in that submersible were not aware of the controversy and the warnings from experts about the safety concerns. And are not in a position to really know anything about the proper construction of a submersible to have seen any red flags themselves. So many people seem to think the four passengers knew how rickety that submersible was and just didn't care. I seriously doubt they had a clue.
@BurnCKC
@BurnCKC Жыл бұрын
They had to sign a waiver that literally says the sub is not certified by regulatory bodies. For successful businessmen, they were pretty stupid.
@stevek8829
@stevek8829 11 ай бұрын
​@@BurnCKCthat waiver won't mean much if it comes out that any information was withheld.
@deplorablelibertarian
@deplorablelibertarian Жыл бұрын
Ocean gate is a "professional company"? No, that is a false statement. Thr ceo literally said that safety regulations were a waste of time, and only held up progress.
@brianglade848
@brianglade848 Жыл бұрын
OceansFate is now a defunct shit company
@newmanboomin5291
@newmanboomin5291 Жыл бұрын
Stockton's engineering and business decisions basically make him look like psychotic murderer right now. If you ignore nautical engineers in the submersible industry, and greenlight yourself past strict safety regulations because of your "innovation", at that point you are basically using your customers, aka tourists, or what OceanGate called their "mission specialists" as lab rats and you are in fact psychotic.
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
@@comawhite1155 Agreed.
@laurafloyd6554
@laurafloyd6554 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate this mans' honesty. Such a horrible ending for all on board.
@MrAddidas2
@MrAddidas2 Жыл бұрын
I dont know if it was horrible for them. For their loved ones yes for sure. But they probably were mesmerized by the ocean and then off 2 wherever we end up when our time hear on earth is over. Now if it was a slow death I 100% agree with you. But from all the reports were hearing it was instant.
@laurafloyd6554
@laurafloyd6554 Жыл бұрын
@@MrAddidas2 you're right. I've been watching videos on it and reading about it a lot today. I've been hearing this quite a bit today. It's a comfort to know it was instant.
@raflaughter3474
@raflaughter3474 Жыл бұрын
@@laurafloyd6554 Yeah it was instant. They would not have felt a thing and probably wouldn't have even known anything was wrong. It's a lot better than being stuck on the seabed waiting for your oxygen to run out.
@SuperFinGuy
@SuperFinGuy Жыл бұрын
@@raflaughter3474 Apparently, before they imploded they would hear the hull cracking.
@garbandgulyberdimuhamedow4604
@garbandgulyberdimuhamedow4604 Жыл бұрын
@@MrAddidas2 Mesmerized by what? Darkness? They most likely died before they reached the bottom.
@johncunnington9266
@johncunnington9266 Жыл бұрын
Don’t ever go where you can’t get rescued RIP all that was lost
@auralplex
@auralplex Жыл бұрын
Well, you can't get rescued flying either.
@Mullikia
@Mullikia Жыл бұрын
@@auralplex Maybe he doesn't fly either.🤣
@deeannray5093
@deeannray5093 Жыл бұрын
@@auralplexAt least you die instantly - not panicking in something the size of a mini-van with no way out, no way to communicate, no way for any rescue for days on end. I'll take flying any day of the week over something like this . . . - Susan Burns
@riverocean4380
@riverocean4380 Жыл бұрын
NASA does everything where people can't be rescued if they got stuck
@lauarascott
@lauarascott Жыл бұрын
How many die?
@chesullivan1519
@chesullivan1519 Жыл бұрын
My dad is an adventurer' and every time he embarks on one of those risky trips, he gives us a big hug. He is a firm believer that a risky adventure could cause his death but that doesn't t stop him from going., he is 83 years old and maybe in the near future he will put an end to his passion for the uncertain and the excitement of the unknown.
@kuhnemund6523
@kuhnemund6523 11 ай бұрын
Some folks are just wired that way--they need the adrenaline to feel alive. Some in my family are like that--not me, though!
@taylormorrison7486
@taylormorrison7486 11 ай бұрын
I understand that.. for some reason I’m itching to go on a submarine tour. I’ve been on one before (only 300 ft deep) and would love to go. Despite the news, the ocean is still amazing and it’s natural to want to explore
@chesullivan1519
@chesullivan1519 11 ай бұрын
@taylormorrison7486 Im a firm believer that when is your time to go ''' no matter what, you will go..................but if is no meant to be, you can take all kind risks and you will still be here.
@chuckh4077
@chuckh4077 11 ай бұрын
​@kuhnemund6523 I just go on extreme rides to feel that high. No need to take super risks like the titan sub.
@chesullivan1519
@chesullivan1519 11 ай бұрын
@@chuckh4077 That's me too!!!
@1234carolynb
@1234carolynb Жыл бұрын
Another example proving that the phrase "do your own research" can actually save your life. This guy didnt do his research, but got lucky. RIP to those 5 who weren't so lucky.
@1k20a
@1k20a Жыл бұрын
What do you mean he said he knew he would die if anything went wrong. Even if the sub was stuck he knew he was dead. That is fare he knew the risk..
@1234carolynb
@1234carolynb Жыл бұрын
@@1k20a Scientists expert In knowing the materials suitable to withstand deep sea pressures said the sub failed to meet required standard. Apparently there had been warnings. Anyone who did their own research would have given the dive a miss.
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
@@1k20a It seems the extreme risk didn't sink in as being a very real one.
@GrantKanigan
@GrantKanigan Жыл бұрын
So they didn’t even clean the nuts up from the mission before? It seems like the company cut corners top to bottom 🤦‍♂️
@sassyhello
@sassyhello Жыл бұрын
This is clearly an example of someone who would rather look insane than be made a fool of
@ritamariekelley4077
@ritamariekelley4077 Жыл бұрын
It's incomprehensible that someone would avoid certification, a blatant red flag. But just as much so that passengers would take the risk when there were other competitors who followed logic and conscience and got certification. What an insane interview.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
Forget certification, what about testing. Going to 400 Bar depth? You test for 800. And not just once, but at least 200 dive cycles worth, or the expected lifetime of the sub. Fail? back to drawing board. CFC may be unsuitable, but wrap enough of it arouynd a vessel and eventually it will withstand the pressure. So besides certification, a lack of thorough testing - that's even more unforgivable for an engineer.
@jamesbillingsby8043
@jamesbillingsby8043 Жыл бұрын
Can't let those pesky regulators get in the way of profits, telling him to spend more money on safety.
@nonofyourbusiness7631
@nonofyourbusiness7631 Жыл бұрын
There isnt any certification for those depths. Its a donat your own risk type scenario. No organization wants that liability of certifying these things
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Жыл бұрын
@@nonofyourbusiness7631 You are correct that there is no bonafide way of certifying, but using scale models one can calculate the risk of implosion, and include the degradation of the materials. This way a fair risk assessment can be made. Now we can only surmise the CFCs failed, which they probably did. But that's beside my point.
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
It's almost as if they were just mocking death - challenging it to take them. Absolutely sickening.
@midwestlakelife
@midwestlakelife Жыл бұрын
Fascinating to get the viewpoint from someone who was excited to go on this trip. Interesting to understand their motivation and thought process.
@kwillow12
@kwillow12 Жыл бұрын
I didn't discern a thought process in this man. He was deliberately ignorant, incurious.
@JoeyMartz
@JoeyMartz Жыл бұрын
@@kwillow12 - deliberately ignorant and incurious? That's what you got from this? Fascinating...
@michellemooresings
@michellemooresings 11 ай бұрын
Yes, definitely.
@hazelrobertson9415
@hazelrobertson9415 11 ай бұрын
​@@JoeyMartzthe phrase "a company as professional as Oceangate" said it all, didn't it? Anyone curious and slightly knowledgeable would know better, this man was just happy to be invited along. He sounds like he just wants to be able to say "I visited the Titanic" so happily puts his life in the hands of a business man. Does that sound to you like he gave this much thought? 😂
@JoeyMartz
@JoeyMartz 11 ай бұрын
@@hazelrobertson9415 alrighty then.
@BlackRose-vi2yg
@BlackRose-vi2yg Жыл бұрын
Very informative. This dude is lucky he made it back !!
@alexshatner3907
@alexshatner3907 Жыл бұрын
There is your answer, nothing ever happen to him because he was the camera man, when there are camera men involved everything will be all-right
@joannemurdock7899
@joannemurdock7899 Жыл бұрын
​@@alexshatner3907I don't think he was in the same designed one?..
@lamay7238
@lamay7238 Жыл бұрын
@@joannemurdock7899 yes he was. It was just new back then. They did not do maintenance. Carbon fiber cannot last
@DDd-gm8uz
@DDd-gm8uz Жыл бұрын
@@alexshatner3907 Yuri Lipski would like a word with you.
@alexshatner3907
@alexshatner3907 Жыл бұрын
@@DDd-gm8uz Sender over, bringum young University
@RPBSpeaks
@RPBSpeaks Жыл бұрын
Glad he answered honestly about not doing it if he had the proper knowledge. I would bet that those who perished would have said the same thing. The company is negligent for not disclosing all information before taking passengers down. Truly a tragedy.
@baileypanama
@baileypanama Жыл бұрын
They signed the waiver. No excuses
@suzannek3493
@suzannek3493 Жыл бұрын
@@baileypanama The waiver is supposed to disclose everything . If it was not disclosed it was.nt legal .
@faizfuad8361
@faizfuad8361 Жыл бұрын
@@baileypanama waivers aren't absolute when it comes to legality. and those three other victim wouldn't have known that.
@WarNvrChanges
@WarNvrChanges Жыл бұрын
But they did disclose all the important information they would have needed to know in the waiver. They literally say “ this submersible hasn’t been certified for safety by any government body or agency” that’s all I would have needed to know right there
@latbeast
@latbeast Жыл бұрын
This is where the wager that they signed will get torn to shreds in court if it goes there.
@shae9364
@shae9364 11 ай бұрын
My great uncle was a marine biologist for the Shedd Aquarium in Chicago. He had this Styrofoam cup he said they had taken down to the trench, and it went from a big gulp cup, to a small shot glass. It was one of the most fascinating things (to me) from his work there. I can't even begin to comprehend not just imploding from that pressure, but knowing it's likely going to happen, because you're descending too fast, and can't do anything about it... The fear from knowing the inevitable is truly unimaginable... I pray for their souls to have peace, and for God to look over their loved ones.
@winstagram1785
@winstagram1785 11 ай бұрын
I guess this is not as unique a thing as I thought. I saw a TikTok video yesterday that a guy was showing off 4-5 tiny styrofoam cups. When they were big he drew a picture of the titanic on each one, signed it, then took them down to the titanic and when they brought them back up they were close to the size of the thimble.
@shae9364
@shae9364 11 ай бұрын
@@winstagram1785 Yep. Same here. It absolutely blew my mind.
@erikamarie1008
@erikamarie1008 11 ай бұрын
is your uncle in that video with the styrofoam cup @winstagram1785 mentioned? I saw that briefly
@jeffbayne15
@jeffbayne15 11 ай бұрын
You pray for their souls??? The people on board The Titan were a bunch of Wealthy A-holes with a Morbid fascination of seeing he final resting place where something like 1500 souls were lost tragically when The Titanic struck an iceberg and the designers of that ship simply didn't provide enough lifeboats to accommodate everyone on board... No one deserves to die like the people on The Titan but they were all informed of the Great risk involved and they chose to proceed at their own peril... All one can say is that they probably didn't suffer...
@sheilajackson5601
@sheilajackson5601 Жыл бұрын
It actually cost more than $250,000. It cost them their lives. That was just a down payment. Sometimes common sense saves you.
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
Most times!
@lennybrewster4673
@lennybrewster4673 Жыл бұрын
Surprising how few people have that anymore.
@MrAddidas2
@MrAddidas2 Жыл бұрын
@@lennybrewster4673 One of the hardest things in life is living with ppl who don't have it.
@karienrothmann9395
@karienrothmann9395 Жыл бұрын
Cowardness saves!!!
@Dmarcoot
@Dmarcoot Жыл бұрын
They paid $500,000 to be killed and buried at sea and forever be part of titanic history
@wuteva34
@wuteva34 Жыл бұрын
According to the CEO, this man was NOT a tourist. ALL of these people are referred to as “MISSION SPECIALISTS “. ARE YOU KIDDING ME ??
@kaylamadison8347
@kaylamadison8347 Жыл бұрын
Ya, well this guy probably loved that, and ya gotta sell tickets
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the bulshit was pretty thick on the ground there.
@panda4247
@panda4247 Жыл бұрын
yep. that's how they got around the regulations... They're not "tourists" on a "tourist vessel" who "pay for the trip"... therefore the trip is not a "commercial activity" and is not regulates as such with all the certifications and rules and insurances They are "mission specialists" on "the experimental vehicle" for the "project they participate on and finance"... therefore it's all a "private experimental mission". Basically, you can't stop me from building my own sub and going down in it.. And the paperwork made it so that they were part of the group and it was their project and their sub... or something like that. That would have been the first sign of shoddyness and shadyness, even if I knew nothing about material physics and deep sea exploration (which most of us don't me included)
@vali2706
@vali2706 Жыл бұрын
Yeah…an there is no war in ukraine… Is just a special military operation in which russians shoot whatever moves…!!! But it is not a war!! Mission specialists at work!!😤 sometimes i really think and wonder what is wrong with human kind…🫣🤣
@vali2706
@vali2706 Жыл бұрын
Yeah…an there is no war in ukraine… Is just a special military operation in which russians shoot whatever moves…!!! But it is not a war!! Mission specialists at work!!😤 sometimes i really think and wonder what is wrong with human kind…🫣🤣
@brianarbenz1329
@brianarbenz1329 Жыл бұрын
He generously throws out words such as “professional” and “visionary” for Oceangate and Rush, then ends the interview by saying if he had known of the criticism three years prior to his trip, he would not have gone.
@user-su4tz1cr9x
@user-su4tz1cr9x Жыл бұрын
He probably signed a contract. He can’t say anything bad about Oceangate. Just tell their neutral experiences about the voyage under the sea.
@bigjared8946
@bigjared8946 Жыл бұрын
Listening to this guy absolutely confirms "affluenza" isn't just a kid thing. @7:35 is the money shot. Wow. Eschewing time-tested methods, prioritizing profits over basic safety, and summarily dismissing the concerns of experts isn't the same as being "creative, visionary, and finding new ways to do things". The logic bubble these people exist in is overdue for an implosion of its own.
@benkei7530
@benkei7530 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@rustyhowe3907
@rustyhowe3907 Жыл бұрын
100% Agree with you and they'll never stop because they have money so *of course* they think they can bribe physics.
@jedijones
@jedijones Жыл бұрын
I don't think you know what the word "affluenza" means.
@terrypussypower
@terrypussypower Жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for people like OceanGate, the human race would still be living in caves. We need people willing to take risks. If no one took big risks, we’d have no civilisation.
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
The Bible clearly warns that 'the love of money is the root of all evil'. And to me risking people's lives for his personal gain is nothing but.
@laurenurban3942
@laurenurban3942 Жыл бұрын
Wow! He’s very fortunate that his number wasn’t up. Probably going to think about this, every day, for the rest of his life.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI Жыл бұрын
He said he's been thinking about that trip for the past years earlier in this video
@ashleycountiss720
@ashleycountiss720 Жыл бұрын
He made the statement that if he would have known then what he knows now he wouldn’t have gone. So he risked his life without making sure all T’s where crossed and all I’s where dotted. I would have done all the research I could and made sure everything was certified before going to the bottom of the damn ocean. Unbelievable
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
​@@s.s.tillmanesq.305 It seems this proves that any craving for adrenalin rush-type experiences should be forced to submit to reason and that NO journeys of this kind be permitted unless that enforcement level is met in full. Any human being who respected the lives of others wouldn't have allowed them to be subjected to such insane risks. Perhaps this was part of the 'adrenalin rush' Mr Rush seems to have craved?
@tommygirl6659
@tommygirl6659 Жыл бұрын
I find it odd that this man seems to speak so glowingly about the Titan, and Stockton Rush, yet the one man that backed out of this specific dive said it was because there were so many red flags and safety concerns. I mean, I've seen video's of some of the parts that were used, that had other original intended uses. Heck, I wouldn't have been surprised to hear if part of it was held together with duct tape. You could not have paid me a billion dollars to go down on this thing. And all of that is confirmed after hearing James Cameron talking today about just how flawed this thing was, and that he wished he had sounded his concerns, voiced them loudly, earlier.
@Madamegato
@Madamegato Жыл бұрын
I think the reason he is speaking so glowingly is because you are witnessing someone with an explorer mindset. This man was excited by the talk, by the idea of it... just like the people who died on the side of Everest who had no business climbing it, thinking it was a bucket list thing... which, I guess it was. The way I look at Oceangate is the same way I look at the Wild West... people who are risking their lives doing things that have not been proven safe. My family and I went on a trip to Hawaii and had thought about doing a helicopter tour... I did so much research and found that, not only had several people died not that long before in a crash, but the time of year we were going the weather would be risky. It literally took me an inch of research to decide I didn't want to gamble. The folks that paid money to die clearly were taken in and did not do their own due diligence. I am just sad that Rush took them with him.
@KryptonicHD
@KryptonicHD Жыл бұрын
@@Madamegato Yeah! I totally agree with what you are saying! Adventurers sometimes are the most prone to danger, because they are doing what others aren't! I don't think the trip itself would be very dangerous if it had been tested with different materials or in general just TESTED! The problem comes in from all the other factors that make the actual trip sort of a dumb idea. It's TOO deep, no one can go help, it's a submarine so it's already way more limited. OceanGate just proved that being adventurous without weighing the risks will eventually bite you. It sucks to hear him say "CEO died drinking his own Kool Aid" because he really did die, thinking "it's safe" instantly.
@y2ksurvivor
@y2ksurvivor Жыл бұрын
I envisioned duct tape holding components of the sub together when I first read about the lawsuits filed against OceanGate by a former employee. As a Floridian I recognize and respect the fix-it power of duct tape lol. But I've also flown on a small passenger plane that had duct tape very clearly applied over cracks around my window. Maybe it was nothing in terms of real risk, but I never forgot the chill that went down my spine 😳 Now whenever I hear about shoddy craftsmanship in situations like this, I think "was there duct tape? 🤔"
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
I think it's all part of the delusive and addictive adrenalin rush some people get from taking extreme risks.
@Vanessa-ok3ys
@Vanessa-ok3ys Жыл бұрын
He says in the end he wouldnt do it again knowing all the issues, he basically got lucky and went on one of the successful trips which would have been an experience of a lifetime. Being an explorer or whatever doesnt make you aware of all the technical things engineers and so on are. I may have missed it but I dont think he was or is qualified to understand the structural aspects of it. Personally I wonder what/how much the other passengers on this one inquired about regarding the structure or if they were just like hey sign up for a ride to Titanic! and just assumed it was trustworthy.
@dorbie
@dorbie 11 ай бұрын
His closing remark gets to the heart of informed consent. The customers did not know of the risks because OceanGate sued and threatened to sue anyone who raised the problem of safety and certification. So on the one hand they were asking customers to sign a waiver, meanwhile they were suing and sending lawyers threats to silence critics.
@jasontimothywells9895
@jasontimothywells9895 11 ай бұрын
Typical of the way things are now here in the America's.
@dblackout1107
@dblackout1107 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@jasontimothywells9895t’s a shit show. That’s why true, calculated, and verified innovation should be heralded. Companies that are about the product-at-hand’s capabilities vs the money that comes from the product. The money will always come if the work is good. If it’s bad, you won’t have anything left eventually. Like Stockton…who doesn’t exist now. What a transaction.
@Narusasu98
@Narusasu98 11 ай бұрын
If that's true, it's beyond criminal... good lord
@dorbie
@dorbie 11 ай бұрын
​@@Narusasu98 It's true and easily verified. Court cases are public record. OCEANGATE INC., a Washington corporation, Plaintiff, v. DAVID LOCHRIDGE and CAROLE REID LOCHRIDGE, and the marital community composed thereof, Defendants. Summarizing the causes of action, OceanGate sought to punish and silence Lochridge for betraying company secrets. Even blaming him for making them fire him. Lochridge's counterclaims revealed that the people he revealed those secrets to were OSHA. The settled the case by a stipulation, the terms of which are not public, but almost certainly silencing Lochridge, that's probably why you have not seen him make any public statements even now.
@dorbie
@dorbie 11 ай бұрын
@@Narusasu98 In addition to the lawsuit the New Yorker article from a few days ago describes the two people Lochridge spoke to about his concerns after being fired (other sub experts) the proprietary information he retained, the safety report, and his complaint to OSHA that he had been fired in retaliation for raising safety concerns and sent OSHA the safety report in an attempt to save lives. He is 100% a whistleblower for all the right reasons.
@KenishaBarker
@KenishaBarker 11 ай бұрын
Thinking about these men trapped in an inescapable space (possibly in darkness) wrecked my heart. The idea that they suffered none of that is a relief.
@williammartinez840
@williammartinez840 Жыл бұрын
He was unafraid due to his naivete about the actual construction of the Titan.
@Allaiya.
@Allaiya. Жыл бұрын
Yep
@mustsilm
@mustsilm Жыл бұрын
I think its a bucket list thing for this guy. For all we know he might have cancer. He is retired probably.
@JoeyMartz
@JoeyMartz Жыл бұрын
that about sums it up.....
@markstelle9402
@markstelle9402 Жыл бұрын
Why take a risk that huge? Life isn't worth going to bottom of the ocean to see the exact view from KZfaq
@kaylamadison8347
@kaylamadison8347 Жыл бұрын
There's only one window, so wouldn't the pilot's head be in the way the whole time
@user-hkssf
@user-hkssf Жыл бұрын
I get what you’re saying. I think people choose to do this because of the whole experience. However, don’t get me wrong, I would never do it myself. I’m claustrophobic and have Thalassophobia too lol
@roberth3793
@roberth3793 Жыл бұрын
@@user-hkssf Had to get a quick google of Thalassophobia (fear of deep bodies of water)🚣
@caronstout354
@caronstout354 Жыл бұрын
Or the footage used in Cameron's "Titanic"
@JoeyMartz
@JoeyMartz Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment.... 100% agree.
@TransoceanicOutreach
@TransoceanicOutreach 11 ай бұрын
He's easily impressed. That sub looks like something you could put together based on a 10-minute youtube video.
@janetgonzalez3931
@janetgonzalez3931 Жыл бұрын
This was the most interesting interview ever that I ever heard what a lucky man and so brave god bless him
@peterwisk6797
@peterwisk6797 11 ай бұрын
SMH what the!
@juicyj3819
@juicyj3819 Жыл бұрын
Imagine how lucky/stupid the previous passengers must feel.
@Urbannomad7
@Urbannomad7 Жыл бұрын
Clueless , yes , specially now that we know it was a low quality submarine .
@xoEmilyAnnexo11
@xoEmilyAnnexo11 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the survivors guilt 😢
@MrAddidas2
@MrAddidas2 Жыл бұрын
@@xoEmilyAnnexo11 Um no. More like thankful I wasnt on that specific trip. Having guilt for something you had absolutely nothing 2 do with is a bit much.
@lenitaa7938
@lenitaa7938 Жыл бұрын
Not enough food nor water, no safety protocols nor safeguards! No common sense! This man knew better, but went anyway, still encouraging others to create more such subs! Crazy!
@WindTurbineSyndrome
@WindTurbineSyndrome Жыл бұрын
the biggest problem was NO redundancy. By the time the warning alert sounded they allegedly have 4 seconds to do nothing but await their fate. The federal govt is sending the NTSB to investigate believe me new regs are coming and they will shut this type of "tourism" and DIY submersible industry down for good.
@karlrosten9091
@karlrosten9091 Жыл бұрын
smart but not much common sense, very common
@lesliepropheter5040
@lesliepropheter5040 Жыл бұрын
You don’t know if you’re claustrophobic until you get sealed in, You could puke as well as smell shit if someone goes to the toilet out of nervousness
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
@@WindTurbineSyndrome Shouldn't have been allowed at all. Wondering how come it was.
@bogdiworksV2
@bogdiworksV2 11 ай бұрын
@@lesliepropheter5040 you know you're claustrophobic if you feel uneasy in an elevator.
@andrewnewton2752
@andrewnewton2752 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing the story David. It was intriguing to hear your experience.
@old4134
@old4134 11 ай бұрын
One of the luckiest men on the planet, and now almost certainly the most thankful one as well!
@scaredy-cat
@scaredy-cat Жыл бұрын
This guy was so lucky, he should thank the Lord every day
@brianglade848
@brianglade848 Жыл бұрын
He should
@Allaiya.
@Allaiya. Жыл бұрын
Dude was lucky. It was a deathtrap waiting to happen with how many corners they cut. Sounds like he didn't know what to look out for & bought into the sales pitch which is why he was impressed with them. Ignorance is bliss as they say.
@nina2222
@nina2222 Жыл бұрын
Yup and mentality of...just get me down there 😑
@mondop5270
@mondop5270 Жыл бұрын
This guys lucky he went early. This sub was always going to slowly succumb to the pressure. The time it imploded was simply a matter of time.
@contingency9
@contingency9 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that though I am not a nautical engineer, that bonding Titainium with Carbon Fibre is a strange combination especially in sea water and at 1000's of LBS per square inch. God bless the people on board RIP
@rohitnautiyal7090
@rohitnautiyal7090 Жыл бұрын
More like 6000 psi
@rosean374
@rosean374 Жыл бұрын
Stockton had skipped class the day they taught this
@conflict7269
@conflict7269 Жыл бұрын
He wanted it to be lighter so he didnt use steel so he used carbon fiber
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
Yes, this has been stated by two other very senior naval diving officers also - that when pressure would be applied it would simply tear apart. Had it been ensured safety regulation standards, these people likely wouldn't have lost their lives. However, I'll never understand how any sensible person would step into a vessel heading for such depths with no backup tracking device, no rescue beam attached, and above all, bolted and unable to be unbolted other than by other people outside the sub. For all their 'exploratory' knowledge apparently these glaring 'fails' didn't even concern anyone at all - and that is simply staggering.
@3UZFE
@3UZFE Жыл бұрын
It's definitely not conventional and being two dissimilar materials they are going have completely different fatigue rates over repeat dives. Glue is also quite hard to calculate for as it introduces a lot of irregularities compared to a contiguous material, like all the other titanium sphere subs that have never failed due to an implosion. The titan sub was experimental and totally reckless by the company to be taking paying passengers, regardless of the disclaimers they signed.
@macflod
@macflod Жыл бұрын
Im a Oceanographic Survey Engineer. When i first saw pictures of this Sub i thought it looked a bit amateur. Its thrusters are tiny for the size of it and it only appears to have 4. I cant see any transponders on it (these are always used for locating things under the vessel), the cabling on the outside should really be tied of better or put in some bundles and the fact they seem to have gone for a much cheaper “lid” that bolts on than a proper door. It all leaves me with a sort of feeling of inexperience, amateurish outfit. Im sure there is some great innovations but the sub seems to be lacking somewhat. This guy. He must be feeling somewhat in shock and very lucky right now. I feel sad for the families of those who died. Any loss of life at sea is sad. The wretched iceberg that got Titanic seems to have claimed 5 more lives all these years later :(
@tropicanaborgatta8335
@tropicanaborgatta8335 Жыл бұрын
the thrusters look and probably are small table fans.
@brianglade848
@brianglade848 Жыл бұрын
You're a what???
@macflod
@macflod Жыл бұрын
@@brianglade848 i maintain equipment used in oceanography on vessels
@macflod
@macflod Жыл бұрын
@@georgetomson7172 an unenviable first
@uchoward1ify
@uchoward1ify 11 ай бұрын
​@@tropicanaborgatta8335Computer fans
@Sehara
@Sehara Жыл бұрын
Even on the bottom of the sea, the only way to see Titanic is through a small window. How is that different from looking at the screen? The only difference is that the living room won't implode
@karlrosten9091
@karlrosten9091 Жыл бұрын
Never cut corners, especially with a submersible , don't be arrogant always be safe as you can be, don't be hasty SAFETY IS FREE ,nothing is perfect.
@tropicanaborgatta8335
@tropicanaborgatta8335 Жыл бұрын
People must really want to see that shipwreck badly. I don't get it, who wants to risk their life for that? With all the things in the world to see, that's not worth it. This man with his window covered from the outside may be confined to that house by his very concerned relatives.
@hollywoodslym
@hollywoodslym Жыл бұрын
The titanic is a big deal to a lot of older ppl For wealthy risk takers and adventurers this is a chance of lifetime. I wouldn’t dare but I can definitely see why thrill seekers would it
@tropicanaborgatta8335
@tropicanaborgatta8335 Жыл бұрын
@@hollywoodslym It sounds like they need mental health checkups.
@lordbossharrow
@lordbossharrow Жыл бұрын
Probably like climbing Everest. Dangrous but once you get to the summit, everything's worth it.
@joebarnes100
@joebarnes100 Жыл бұрын
​@@lordbossharrownah, there is air be it thin on top of a mountain.
@billh.1940
@billh.1940 Жыл бұрын
Go to the shipwrecks, become one with the shipwrecks. Only 500k per seat. You to can be eaten by fish and crabs.
@d-townchicana2232
@d-townchicana2232 Жыл бұрын
He was right when he said experiment before he corrected himself😢
@lfg2014
@lfg2014 Жыл бұрын
I INSTANTLY noticed that as well. Good catch!
@JoeyMartz
@JoeyMartz Жыл бұрын
Freudian slip.
@annegherli7249
@annegherli7249 Жыл бұрын
The CEO was so fascinated of what he's doing to the point that he became very confident with his subermisible without thinking its risk Furthermore, He keeps on disregarding warns of other experts and professionals.
@bewell-7743
@bewell-7743 Жыл бұрын
I would have vowed hearing more about how cold it gets on the Submersible. Good interview thank you.
@melaniefernandez9572
@melaniefernandez9572 Жыл бұрын
I will repeat this DONT MESS WITH THE OCEAN !!
@Roomy222
@Roomy222 Жыл бұрын
Watching the video of them attaching the parts with Epoxy glue, a man walking around the pod applying it by hand, so no way of it being an even application, and they then lowered the other part onto it, and viewing it by eye said it was a perfect attachment, shocking
@tropicanaborgatta8335
@tropicanaborgatta8335 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised it held together as much as it did.
@km3268
@km3268 11 ай бұрын
This was a great interview. The guest was thoughtful and logical, and he told an uncluttered story. The interviewer came across as interested in the guest, not performing or calling attention to herself.
@samanthalindgren54
@samanthalindgren54 Жыл бұрын
This makes me so upset. Stockton knew the risks and assured his passengers this was a very safe submersible. The passengers were most likey not aware that experts had warned this was not a safe submersible. Stockton thought he knew best and got himself and others killed.
@rspro575
@rspro575 11 ай бұрын
After 12 successful dives to Titanic, one might think the Titan was very capable.
@annabrewer8054
@annabrewer8054 11 ай бұрын
google 'greek boat disaster' if you want to really get upset
@octasian
@octasian Жыл бұрын
I’ve never been excited to go visit a gravesite, especially not one where a tragic event happened.
@ArchimedeanEye
@ArchimedeanEye Жыл бұрын
The bodies are long gone. How many people do you think have died in all of history? Almost everywhere is a 'grave site' if you think about all the people before us. Why are you all upset about that particular grave site? Selective thinking.
@scooptpoop
@scooptpoop Жыл бұрын
Ironic
@lindmohamad3726
@lindmohamad3726 Жыл бұрын
Yes in the Religion of Islam Muslims are prohibited to visit places of tragedies e. g. the ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah.
@slimetooomob1656
@slimetooomob1656 Жыл бұрын
@@ArchimedeanEyeyou gotta be slow my boy to compare 13,000ft UNDER WATER to a regular cemetery.
@ArchimedeanEye
@ArchimedeanEye Жыл бұрын
@@slimetooomob1656 What has the depth got to do with it? Thousands of people die every day. Billions before us. Why are you all upset about Titanic deaths in particular? Did you cry watching the movie?
@ericwaiters3225
@ericwaiters3225 Жыл бұрын
They all died because of one man's arrogance not to be certified
@MarJo333
@MarJo333 Жыл бұрын
Thank you David, for sharing your story.
@ylvisfan390
@ylvisfan390 Жыл бұрын
Why is this guy amazingly articulate and to the point
@andrewjones5513
@andrewjones5513 Жыл бұрын
“ as professional as ocean gate “ is he serious??
@GeorgeFranquiz
@GeorgeFranquiz Жыл бұрын
Lack of wisdom on the leadership of this company
@misterhat6395
@misterhat6395 Жыл бұрын
“Local man survives horrible decision.”
@wendytaylor8464
@wendytaylor8464 Жыл бұрын
Why would you call Ocean Gate Professional.. No Safety Concerns At All
@COEXIST-ny4db
@COEXIST-ny4db 11 ай бұрын
I bet he's also feeling extremely blessed to be alive. This is such a sad tragic case all the way around. Such tragic losses in these men.
@LilMDM
@LilMDM Жыл бұрын
This is so heartbreaking that they allowed a teen to go on there knowing the risk sending prayers to the families
@advocacynaccountablity
@advocacynaccountablity Жыл бұрын
1) "suburban man" is a rich dude who doesn't want to be identified. 2) while he was describing his experience he brought up "how professional OceanGate was". This sends up some red flags - is he invested in the company? Or?
@kaylamadison8347
@kaylamadison8347 Жыл бұрын
I think he's just gullible
@ShesMajickal_
@ShesMajickal_ Жыл бұрын
He is lying. An actor.
@yakivpopavich
@yakivpopavich Жыл бұрын
@@ShesMajickal_ Take your meds and quit smoking and or snorting methamphetamine.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI Жыл бұрын
Right and saying he hopes more men like stockton rush continue to forward this line of work like what? 😂
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI Жыл бұрын
@@olly4227 I don't know him to know If he's a nice man or not. What I do know is that it's a miracle he survived that suicide mission
@steelcom5976
@steelcom5976 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like OceanGate put more effort into testing the passengers than the ship.
@francinesanchez5402
@francinesanchez5402 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate him sharing his experience. Glad he is alive and wish they had retired the ship earlier… actually, done the right safety checks to begin with.
@adoroportugal
@adoroportugal 11 ай бұрын
What a fantastic interview, very insightful and informative. Glad his expedition went well
@Jesusismysavior2533
@Jesusismysavior2533 Жыл бұрын
It just wasn't his time to go.And the titan hadn't been damaged by all the other trips down to the titanic. So sad 5 lives have to be lost before they have to be inspected
@williamsmith8097
@williamsmith8097 Жыл бұрын
A sphere is the only shape capable of resisting the massive forces at that depth...a cylinder shape has the weakness of the flat end panels compounded by the fact that they were dissimilar materials and by all accounts poorly bonded...
@choysum9030
@choysum9030 Жыл бұрын
Yea I'm not sure why he didn't just copy one of the Russian designs.
@JoeyMartz
@JoeyMartz Жыл бұрын
James Cameron is that you?
@jamesneilsongrahamloveinth1301
@jamesneilsongrahamloveinth1301 Жыл бұрын
Yes, the shape of Titan seems bizarre, given the forces at that depth. As you say, a sphere serves to distribute the forces evenly and lock in strength . . .
@Kalumbatsch
@Kalumbatsch 11 ай бұрын
Well, it's the shape that needs the least material.
@peterphan227
@peterphan227 Жыл бұрын
The Titan was being vigorously tested. The problem is that the testing was being done with paying customers on board. Apparently, the most recent "test" of the Titan failed. Oops. Well, at least they now know that their design doesn't work.
@dianealarcon8304
@dianealarcon8304 Жыл бұрын
Nice to hear from someone who has been on the Titan. Great questions from the interviewer, and Dave was forthright in his perspective of this ocean disaster.
@maxbrazil3712
@maxbrazil3712 Жыл бұрын
I just saw a video that showed the two titanium end caps being attached to the carbon fiber hull with epoxy glue applied to the seams in an uneven amount using a normal paintbrush while in a non-sterile environment. It was as sloppy as a carpenter using wood glue.
@woowah32
@woowah32 Жыл бұрын
Reference?
@thecaptainsnark
@thecaptainsnark Жыл бұрын
as a crafter I take offense to this. We could have done a better job.
@tropicanaborgatta8335
@tropicanaborgatta8335 Жыл бұрын
The entire contraption was very shoddy and amateurish. Even I can see that knowing nothing about subs.
@taze27
@taze27 Жыл бұрын
It held up for a few trips but ultimately failed. Safety is paramount, unfortunately this outfit took shortcuts and gave safety a backseat.
@woowah32
@woowah32 Жыл бұрын
@@tropicanaborgatta8335 Hindsight’s a wonderful thing, isn’t it…👍🏻🙄🤣
@deanalbertson7203
@deanalbertson7203 Жыл бұрын
If OceanGate was really professional, then why did they not get the sub certified, according to James Cameron.
@anthonyburton7189
@anthonyburton7189 11 ай бұрын
Carbon fiber has a negative coefficient of thermal expansion which means that the material in its purest form actually expands in cold. So as the sub gets colder in the depths the titanium will shrink and the carbon fiber will expand. The two materials will be capable of breaking the other in shrinking as the other wants to expand!
@Hotep982
@Hotep982 Жыл бұрын
The 19 year old was GUILTED into going with his father he didn't want to go but I guarantee you everyone around him talked him into going using "bonding" as the reason that's why they're now all "distraught" that's regret.
@tomwalkingstick5395
@tomwalkingstick5395 Жыл бұрын
Exactly..very sad
@joeidaho5938
@joeidaho5938 Жыл бұрын
They probably accepted anyone who was willing put money in their pockets. In the end, you gotta think it was really more about money than anything else, when a company is not even willing to certify it's vessel. Ya, it's sad...but also hard to pity anyone who didn't do their due diligence before doing this kind of extreme voyage.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI Жыл бұрын
It's always about money or power smh
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
Totally.
@roddychristodoulou9111
@roddychristodoulou9111 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't go even if you paid me 250 grand .
@louisabrams9590
@louisabrams9590 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@FunfettiGirl1987
@FunfettiGirl1987 Жыл бұрын
I've been saying the same. Even if that submersible was made of titanium a foot thick and had every safety feature that guaranteed nothing would go wrong, I still wouldn't go.
@tomk3732
@tomk3732 Жыл бұрын
I would go - just not on Titan. This is a super safe industry with no accidents in like 50 years for multiple certified ships. Then they yahoo comes along, in uncertified ship b/c he does not want to spend $$$ to get it certified. Makes it out of carbon fiber that everyone says is unsafe. End result is 5 people dead.
@taze27
@taze27 Жыл бұрын
For $250000....let me think about it. 😂
@chairmankim9628
@chairmankim9628 Жыл бұрын
How about , oneee millliioonn dolllars?😅
@baloog8
@baloog8 Жыл бұрын
I mean as an engineer, Ill give a tiny leeway. It is very imprressive to have any structure with that much headroom survive at depth for even 1 dive. That being said it shouldve been an unmanned iterative experimental project. It wouldve been fine as a project to see how much you can get away with the cheap way and then buffer it to commercial readiness with hull cycling tests.
@gauravvij67
@gauravvij67 Жыл бұрын
Good point. If you could standardise everything then you could see how many hours it would withstand at depth before buckling and then remake the subs carbon tube once say half the hours are done. I don't think it's possible to standardise carbon fiber construction though meaning you could always have unknown flaws. Sounds like a bad choice of material...
@backtoobasics
@backtoobasics 11 ай бұрын
Thank you fir your insight sir!!
@janicesullivan8942
@janicesullivan8942 Жыл бұрын
There should be no “tourism” to places like Titanic.
@greenman6141
@greenman6141 Жыл бұрын
If it is in international waters, who would have the jurisdiction to make such a declaration? Cruise companies get away with doing zero investigations into the rapes and murders that happen on cruise ships by saying "we were in international waters, no police force as the authority to investigate, no country has any authority over any alleged crime" They leave many traumatized families in their wake in each, while pocketing the cash.
@panda4247
@panda4247 Жыл бұрын
well, there is tourism to the pyramids as well 🤷
@death2641
@death2641 Жыл бұрын
​@@springsbliss4094except the CCP, right now they are bringing up sunken navy Ship from ww2 and scrap them for material another reason to hate them
@greenman6141
@greenman6141 Жыл бұрын
@@panda4247 That is a legit point. There is no one coherent way of approaching this area. Though maybe there simply isn't. The unwritten rule seems to be...the older a site is, the more it becomes "archeology". In the case of the Edmund Fitzgerald no one is allowed to dive the wreck anymore, but that is somewhat due to the peculiar conditions of Lake Superior. It's so cold, bodies last and last. Though I believe it is also illegal for anyone to try to get to the wreck of the Estonia in the Baltic. However both those cases are of areas where the wreck is in the waters of a specific country, or there is a treaty about what countries have official interest or say about the area of the wreck.
@karend9445
@karend9445 Жыл бұрын
I commend his bravery. I would never have gotten the courage to do it. Sometimes I think of things I said no to and wonder if I missed out. But maybe missing out isn’t always the worst thing in life.
@StevenSmith-pt8rz
@StevenSmith-pt8rz Жыл бұрын
Or stupidity.
@jaron-craighunter4485
@jaron-craighunter4485 Жыл бұрын
Well said!!!
@quentology11
@quentology11 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
Obviously not.
@BurnCKC
@BurnCKC 11 ай бұрын
Stupidity not bravery
@nelsonvanvickle8862
@nelsonvanvickle8862 Жыл бұрын
From a BBC article on the incident- “Experts have questioned the safety of Titan and how private sector deep-sea expeditions are regulated. Concerns have been raised over the Titan's experimental design and the carbon fibre material used to build it. More than three dozen industry leaders and experts even signed a 2018 letter to Mr Rush that warned OceanGate's approach could lead to "catastrophic" problems” “The industry has been trying for several years to get Stockton Rush to halt his programme for two reasons," said Rob McCallum, a specialist who runs his own ocean expedition company, told the BBC on Friday. "One is that carbon fibre is not an acceptable material," he said. "The other is that this was the only submersible in the world doing commercial work that was unclassed. It was not certified by an independent agency." Why this arrogant egotistical bastard, Stockton Rush, wasn’t under investigation should definitely be a part of the conversation by now. Rob McCallum was even threatened by lawyers for Rush and Oceangate if he went public with these safety concerns. This clown should’ve been arrested and charged for just attempting to sell tickets to tour the wreckage of the Titanic aboard an experimental and uncertified vessel.
@NWednesdayQuansah
@NWednesdayQuansah 11 ай бұрын
Wow, I did not know all of that! Yeah, that's bad! Finding that out, I wouldn't be surprised if criminal charges are forthcoming.
@Queen_-gg5jn
@Queen_-gg5jn Жыл бұрын
very informative interview 😢 thanks
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
After now hearing several reports like this one, it's obvious these subversibles are simply a death trap - people not scientifically qualified should never have been allowed step into them. I feel so sad about the boy who went simply because he wanted to please his father for Father's Day.
@treelineresearch3387
@treelineresearch3387 Жыл бұрын
tbh I'd feel a lot worse about it if it were filled with scientifically qualified people like marine biologists and professional submariners rather than extreme tourists. Submersibles are generally quite safe though, the CEO of this company even used it as a talking point in his marketing...too bad his implementation wasn't.
@toddwilliams5905
@toddwilliams5905 Жыл бұрын
None of the others have failed in the last 50 years. Bad design trying to do it for less. Broke the rules the others follow.
@adamwatson6916
@adamwatson6916 Жыл бұрын
It's not submersibles in general that are a danger it was this one in particular due to its poor design incorrect material and lack of safety testing. If he had built the sub using tried and tested materials . Submersible subs have been making deep water dives to the Titanic and Many places Even deeper without incident . Correctly engineered and constructed subs with proper testing are not a problem. They have been diving the Titanic since 1985.
@goldenautumn3073
@goldenautumn3073 Жыл бұрын
​@@treelineresearch3387 But how could anybody, ESPECIALLY people such as scientists or submariners etc, consent to take such a perilous dive in something not 'passed' by safety and rescue registrants, knowing there was no backup tracker, no rescue beacon attached, and that they'd be bolted in with no possible way of escape even if in shallow water? There's a video where Stockton Rush is blatantly boasting about having broken safety rules for submersibles and admitting that he used incompatible materials to construct it! It now has been revealed that he also received several warnings from such people about this vessel! Does this mean he simply didn't advise the people on board? If that is so, imo this would have to amount to at least manslaughter of his 4 passengers.
@b100ka
@b100ka Жыл бұрын
@@adamwatson6916 "If he had built the sub using tried and tested materials" Then it would have been to expensive and out of reach for public use which was the whole point of doing it. The Titanic used tried and tested materials. Even certified by experts!
@nicolesamuels4679
@nicolesamuels4679 Жыл бұрын
"As professional as Oceangate." Are you kidding me?
@LM20237
@LM20237 Жыл бұрын
He (and his family) must be feeling extremely lucky right now, coupled with the sadness that comes with having known two of the men lost on Titan. I'm glad he and all the others survived, I'm devastated for the families of those who didn't.
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