Lamont, within those 6 hours, what would you recommend doing? I'm a complete beginner in Korean and haven't yet incorporated Anki into my learning yet (I'll do so later). I have a schedule/plan for the day which should roughly add up to me interacting with Korean 3 hours a day, but most days I end up not doing and end up doing way less.

Lamont, this refold link isn't working anymore - any ideas?

@CRASSrules - yeah they revamped their system, I should have a new one within a day or so. Sorry about the slow reply - I'm actually much less likely to see replies to comments than I am to see new comments.

I'm getting a 404 on this link

Hi i want to buy the words but I get a 404 error!

I’ll be using this tip thanks ✍️

Thanks!

That will save your wrist from having to cut and paste so much

Yeah, and for the record (for those reading), I knew you could do this but I was scared of messing up the formatting and I also thought that I might only need like 400 with the changed formatting. It didn't occur to me until night time that I should have done this earlier.

… what did he do if he didn’t do this?😂. I have to watch the video again. I was driving when I listened to it.

I'm Latin American. I speak both English and Spanish natively and I'm very curious as well

I'm Stewart and I speak fhshwjd. I look forward to ajbdhdhd as well.

@@muffinberg7960 Be curious

@@FOXMAN09😂😂😂😂

Graham?

Hahaha, I know right!?

Knowing both the meaning and reading of that many kanji must be shit damn

Attempting this in Japanese is madness.. Wow respect!

I did that too about two years ago, I learned 70 - 100 words per day in Japanese. It was because back then, I hated the thought of having a deck for more than three months. Now I've calmed down a lot and I'm learning 20 - 35 per day. I'm not sure how I used to do it, I can hardly do my reviews now lol

I think it is quite a good strategy to just go through 1000+ words as early as possible. I notice some just stick after just seeing it once and other don't, leaches. So I think it is good idea to learn all the words that will stick around as soon as possible.

@@karadx950 youre a monster for that, when I was actively studying Chinese I would do 30ish words a day and on saturday mornings do 100 words and after just a couple weeks of that it was over 2 hours on anki to clear the day each day which took a number of weeks with no new words to get down to a more reasonable time

That's a great point and smart to do!

Yeah... Obviously, 20 words a day for 50 days would be much more sensible... but the other thing is, it would mean making two more videos to gain the same kind of traffic that this one might gain, which would in turn mean less time for Spanish.

Pomodoro Method is the shit

My problem with Pomodoro is that it has you artificially stopping for no good reason other than the clock saying so. I tend to be on Stephen's (aka Coffezilla) side when he says that if he finds a state of flow he can go for 5 or 6 hours. OK not with language study, as it's a little more intense... but certainly 3 hours. I'm pretty sure someone basically just came up with these 25 minutes on 5 minutes off rules.

Depends on situation. Some people due to professional reasons have to get down to cramming in a very short amount fo time. But yes, agreed, this is exhausting. No doubt about. As for this experiment to get credible results it should be repeated in a longer span of time in accordance with retention check-ups as suggested by well- known and relatively well-tested forgetting curve. Personally I do not love this way of learning vocabulary, however it may seem time-effective just becuase it's to boring for the brain to score high in terms of rapid and permanent transfer of new input to long-term memory and this is what real retention and language learning should be about. SInce I'm not interested in how high are score in some gamification game. All I care about is how effectively I can get to near native level in my target language. If I have to give it more time, I give it more time if I may afford it. But I'm not really interested in methods that will get me stuck well below C1 level. To everything like this I will always say "thank you very much, not so interested". But for me aany new language is a practical tool, so well, my expecations differ from expactations of holiday makers. For them cramming like this maybe might be of value. For me, yeah, when I need it but as someone really passionate about languages not the most effective method I know and not the most engaging. At times I literally feel my brain falling asleeping in the middle of such training sessions. As for passion being at the peak at the very start, I think people who never reach fluency in their target foreign language have this problem from such thinking,putting to much trust in this passion. Would any of them would do so if let's say this would be their job or school? Would they wait for the moment of a passionate inspiration to get anything done and to make any progress? I bet the answer would be: NO! it's the same with foreign langauges. Just accept it's a process, sometimes it's the last thing you wanna do but you know you have to do it daily. Sometimes it's a pain in the ass and sometimes it's utterly frustrating, just accept it. Anything that makes people gain any tangible results- job, studies, school, gym, any training, language learning just needs time, repetitive effort, learning by constant trial and error, getting tired, getting annoyed, going through periods of being bored with it as well as through phases of enjoying it. It's just normal learning in order to get tangible effects thing. There is little diffrence between bulking up at gym and this. Having said so I think I will take break from German and Spanish now given that French, Italian and Swedish do deserve some love it. If my life and work would be any less hetic I would love to add Swahili and Hindi to the mix but as for it probably will have to wait till summer. ;-) As for cramming, professionals are given 2 years tops to achieve C1 in a new one, so yeah, obviously professionals as adults are cramming. But other experts in other fields are also cramming. All adults know what it is like to go to a 2 day training with curriculum normlally covered within a year and someone at work epxecting you to pass some exam and to get some certification within next 2 weeks or 2 months tops since completion of such training. ;-) Nothing new to adults really. we simply do not like to discuss it in public.

Having several things in “watch later” is useful for chores. KZfaq will play them all.

Wow! Nice, it is rare to find people who can speak from birth especially 2 languages.

@@nsevv yeah I've never met a bilingual newborn or monolingual either

És most hogyan megy a spanolod?

Thank you so much Laura! Honestly, I COULD understand everything ("a partir de ahora" I figured out from context... from now on, right?) - and the last word I will have to look up in a second... I think I understand everything else, but I won't try to write in Spanish. 😬 I'm only able to read very slowly and I miss a LOT... but I can follow along in some way... like a 5 year old can watch a romantic comedy and sort of get the idea I guess. Anyway, I will keep enjoying your comments in Spanish!

Gracias por el comentario español. Aprendo para hace cincos semanas, y aprecio la práctica.

@@HeidiSue60 de nada :) Escribes muy bien si solo hace cinco semanas que aprendes el idioma, sigue así :D

"an easy way to mine sentences from immersion content?" Migaku

@@fuwa7358 Ya, I've started screwing around with Migaku...but the setup is kind of tough for me. I'm not a big computer guy, and I'm a lazy language learner :) Cant figure out how to get a dictionary loaded, I'm learning Danish which is not fully supported by MIgaku.

Yeah Migaku is definitely not the easiest thing to set up. I haven't watched it but Ben (Refold) recently did a 30 minute video on Anki so it's probably got some of the tips he gave me, in that video.

Thanks so much, I'm always trying to make them better.

It's really powerful. The hardest part is finding the time, e.g. my yard/outer house is in terrible condition but it'll take like 2 days to fix and I can't make a video out of it haha.

@@daysandwords Haha true. For me it's professional development stuff, like coding. I know improving my coding would be super useful for my job and career, but it's not something I ever have time at work to improve and I just haven't been motivated enough to do it for very long after work. Just dedicating a whole Saturday to it would make it fun, and build some momentum that would make me want to keep going. I think one key to making that day successful is having a plan, if you start your 24 hours with no clue where to begin then it's gonna be tough. For this you had a clear goal, get through a specific Anji deck. "Get better at coding" and "fix up the yard" both needs more structure to make them less icky. Then again, if you have the whole day, you'll kinda figure it out as you go and a couple hours in you'll probably have a good idea of where you want to end up.

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching!

Ah ok, yeah images are cool. I use ShareX to add them quickly in mining.

Are they doing similar for French deck?

Glad you think so!

Thanks!

From B2 Swedish to C1 I did Anki with sentence mining... I did the writing the words down at more like A2 but I thought I was B2 when I did that (I was wrong).

I would say Refold is even more worthwhile between B1 and C1 than at the early stages where basically anything will sort of get the job done. I doubt my speaking is at B1 yet, I've not really tried.

I have now caught up my reviews so I just have like 10 or 15 due every day.

When I checked it after replying to this I actually had 41 due! But I've done them now, apparently only 12 tomorrow.

Awesome! Are you raining your kid/kids in Spanish, or is that in a different language?

@@daysandwords 🙈 very poor Spanish since we are a household of monolinguals but Netflix is always Spanish. I have every confidence though that it is possible and and by the time they are 5 we will be able to manage entire days in Spanish.

Same! From what you're saying it sounds as though my Swedish is more advanced than your Spanish, but I do try to raise my younger one in Swedish, but it's still hard because although I can speak Swedish all the time, it often seems impractical when you've got to tell him not to run on the road or not to throw my mug down the stairs or whatever lecture it is for that day/morning/minute. But he understands quite a lot of Swedish and just recently even seems to be choosing it appropriately, as in, using it to say some things to me, but not to other people. I also TRY to keep content in Swedish but sometimes mum (my wife) ends up putting anything she can find on. I am hoping to get a video out about this in maybe a month or so. Keep it up in any case!

@@daysandwords 🤣 noted “learn key phrases - do not throw that mug down the stairs!” That’s amazing though! I am def looking forward to that video

I know you're probably aware of this, but you know they can't actually learn languages in 9 months to a year, right? It's easy to make it look as though they can.

@@daysandwords I do agree that no one can become really fluent in that amount of time. Some of the " greats" do seem to be able to progress much quicker in that amount of time than your average Joe (or Jane), though. 😊 🌷

Well given I can slowly read novels now I don't think it should take longer than a year haha (to reach B2).

Actually it's up for intepretation, hence the 26 minute video.

If you sort comments by "Top", then there should be a comment from Refold reasonably high that explains what you want, I think.

Refold you are the GOAT

If you DIDN'T somehow store everything that's ever happened, then trying to learn anything would be pointless, when you think about... like if you fail a card 6 times and then the next 6 times you're confident with it, what was the difference? You obviously pick it up on some level, otherwise you'd just keep it failing it forever.

How do you setup the 2 to 3 day per card lifespan?

@@paulwalther5237 I'm trying to use an old Migaku add on 'retirement' (you can still download it & the migaku website still has the instructions) but if I can't get it right I might just swoop in every few days and scoop them out by 'browsing' the deck, sorting by the card's interval & manually changing their deck.

Even if they do translate perfectly, I don’t think it’s at all comparable translating by an app what you want to say as opposed to genuinely speaking with a native speaker. They’d feel more engaged speaking and the connection would be more genuine.

When you click on any deck, at the bottom you will see "Options" and then you can change how many new cards you see per day and how many total cards you will see, what the intervals on the reps are etc etc.

That's insane! Did you follow a certain list of words or added words by reading/ watching TV/ etc? I should do this for French. I'm lower advanced but with an incredibly simple vocabulary ...

@@Tinyy-Bubbles i used a list of 2000 words and also read a book and looked up words!

Yeah it would totally different. I mean you could set up Anki so that it shows it to you 5 times no matter what or something.

I would record your lessons and practice them separately, would that work for you?

Just checking if you watched the video all the way through? Because I feel as though your questions were thoroughly answered in the video.

Yes, I watched the whole video, but I couldn't understand

Just like in couch polyglots comment she uses “es impresionante que” that will ALWAYS trigger the subjunctive. So in reference to my comment it’s really easy to build up a Catalog in your head of subjunctive uses…..there are some other ways spanish speakers use it creatively etc. Some things that only use it sometimes but Spanish with Paul covers those.

I learned to recognise and understand a lot maybe. You probably speak better than I do.

Cheers buddy!

Doesn't German resemble English which you seem to speak

Hi, Thanks for this question. First things first, I'm not using the words "Anki" and "Refold" interchangeably. Anki is a computer application (or program) similar to Microsoft Word or Adobe Photoshop, except that it's completely free to download. Refold is a company who teach people to learn languages by immerson. Refold made this "deck". A deck is a collection of cards which have a "front" and a "back", so you look at the front and see if you can remember the back. In this case the front is a Spanish word and the back is a translation plus an example. Refold made this deck, but you also need to download Anki to use it.

@@daysandwordsso I need the Anki app to run this Refold deck. Thanks for explaining.

​@@supernova1234ukYep that's it. You can also get Anki on your phone and even sync between phone and PC if you want but I haven't personally done that. Refold recommends you complete the decks at 10 cards a day for 100 days.

Thank you! Haha, maybe it's found in the same sized ball park that LingQ are guessing my vocabulary to be in.

@@daysandwords Ain't that truth. Great at language shite at maths

Hmm, that's pretty tough. You've got two languages way too close together to be studying at the same time, and then at a similar level too. What I would do is get really good at ONE OR TWO aspects of EACH. e.g. learn all the tenses and become like a tense "grand master" in French, as well as learning a bunch of idioms/sayings or something. Then in Spanish, you want to learn a crapload of vocab, and get really good at pronunciation or something. You want to separate the two languages in your head as much as possible, and being really good at one thing in one and another thing in the other will help with that. Having said that, for school, you're trying to do well on an exam, which only involves a small amount of speaking and doesn't necessarily demand that you "acquire" the languages. So you can definitely skill build in each. For that I've got an old video that could help (it's in French but it has subtitles, and it was checked by a native speaker so it should all be correct.) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n8B4mLuf3MnUd4U.html

@@daysandwords thx so much

Haha in Sterling it's even less isn't it?

​@@daysandwordsI definitely do the same haha

I think probably 20x. Duolingo would teach a similar amount of vocabulary in about 2 years.

@@daysandwords I’m at 750 words on Duolingo after over 3 months of probably around 45 minutes a day on average. I guess that’s not awful, but the pace of new vocab keeps slowing down with each unit. The app isn’t garbage, but I know it’s only attractive to me because of ‘the ease’.

Did you watch the video?

Did you watched it all?

Yes! Although I don't have C2 Swedish, and depending on what you mean by "just getting started", it's possible my Spanish is a bit better than your Swedish. It'd be good if that were the case because then my slightly better Spanish would make up for your English being better than my Swedish. Damn that just went a bit Inception-ish.

@@daysandwords Ha, you definitely speak better Spanish than I do Swedish, especially after what you did in this video! I also speak decent French tho, if that helps. By the way, do you have any strategies for practising your target language while on a plane? I have a long haul flight soon and I wanted to do a bit of learning. I'm thinking I'll probably just do passive learning since saying words aloud would be kinda awkward with so many people around