Well said!

​@@StefanoCreatiniIf it helps you... Making Camping Spaces on your Farm or Land can bring in another income for your family. Some people are just using outhouses or Porta Potties for plumbing. You can also charge people to learn your farming techniques. And have them help you build shelters, you can rent out

I'm in hotchkiss now, let's connect! Been watching your videos and been gettinf a lot of value.

@@StefanoCreatini Nice. Let’s do it. I’ll get your contact info from Jake.

I appreciate it

Yup, me too. Never again will i go in with someone else.

Thank you! I will keep making update videos with Jake. His farm has been an inspiration.

I love it here in CO! No idea where to get started, myself. Single dude, 250k budget and doing my research now! Heres to hoping! 😅

Thanks for thoughtful words, looking forward to making more videos.

Thanks, Im looking for farms and hopefully I can land something

Thanks!

Smart moves. I’m the same way now. Not even NRCS grants. I just bought 36 acres in Paonia Colorado. New video coming out in a day or so.

@@StefanoCreatini subscribed today. Looking forward to the new content!

Thanks! I was able to buy a farm last month. Going to create some videos on it soon.

Lease land! Do not buy to start if you don’t have to. Land is a terrible investment because it’s price has nothing to do with its production. Put your three grand into tools and starting up your business.

Buy it! 3000 is small potatoes, and you control the outcome. You can sell if you want down the line

unless it's a half acre of literal beach sand... buy it for $3000 (my god, that's only $250 a month for 12 months, people pay more than that for car leases lol). Unless you own the deed, you ultimately do not control what happens there. Many of the longterm soil and farm improvements take years to see any return on, it's hard to justify those when you're renting and the land can be yanked out from under you (the tenant-landlord culture in ag today is one of the reasons it's become so exploitive and degrading of soils). Tools? You really only need a spade, a mattock, a hoe, a post driver, and knives to start farming on a small scale. What is that, $200 in tools? Tree Fruit can make you serious money on small acreage (for the work involved) with high density systems, but take 3-7 years to start producing, Brambles require at least a year to start producing, but don't really take off until year 4. Asparagus Rhubarb are the same. June bearing Strawberries don't produce all that much the first year, so they're at least a 5 year proposition to really get them producing well ( I recommend some day neutrals as well if you can shade them in the summer). Hedges (which could easily be your high density tree fruits and brambles) to limit the effects of wind and promote beneficial animals take years to develop. Buy it, plant high density tree fruit and brambles around the perimeter, then farm the middle with strawberries, asparagus, rhubarb, and annual vegetables/fruit. A $7000 dollar investment (3k for the land, 4K for plants and tools), and you could be making really good money in about 5-6 years!. 1/2 acre has a usable perimeter of 580 feet (590-10ft for access), planting dual leader UFO fruit trees every 7 feet, that's 82 trees. Rootstocks can be had for $4, and scions can be had for $1 per bud (that's $410 for trees). 29 T-posts (Electric fencing and trellising for trees) are $406, two rolls of high tensile wire is $100, 1000 strawberry plants are $250. 100 blackberry plants are $600, 100 Raspberries are $450. A case of 1020 trays and inserts costs $157, and 10 bales of promix costs $190. Seed costs for 1/4 acre shouldn't exceed $550 (that includes an oz of asparagus seed and some rhubarb seed), and 4 years worth of cover crop seed costs $100. A used IBC tote can be had for under $100 (for water if it's not got a well or municipal access (filled via runoff your nursery structure))That totals $3263, leaving $737 for basic tools and a small nursery area. For tools, I'd go with a 2.5lb pick-mattock ($23), a garden hoe ($25), a hori hori knife ($25), a spade ($15), a standing bulb planter ($15), bypass shears ($10), Loppers ($15), Push mower ($250), and a solar fence charger ($90) (unless you have power there). That's only $468, leaving you $269 to assemble a small nursery area on site. If you can't make the equivalent of $250 a month off that (to stay on the land while you're getting established), idk what to tell you. I sold $800 just in cooking greens ( 150bunches @$2), peas (30lbs @ $6/lbs) raspberries (20 pints@$6 ea), and strawberries (50pints @ $4 EA) at a single 3hr market on Tuesday lol. (my early plantings of lettuce failed due to lack of irrigation and drought, and my summer crops aren't producing yet). Last year, I was making $1000 a week just in field tomatoes when they were in season (july-oct here in ohio).

I guess if you’re doing veg it makes sense.

@@swamp-yankee Thank you. I will do. I have such a strong desire to get my own land but I know it's a rash thing to do.

You have heroism in your blood. Japan’s imperialism was ruthless. Is the hacienda a sugar plantation?

Yes sugar,rice and cassava @@syd9800

Nice! That’s a big spot. I don’t have experience either Florida climate. Are you looking to produce more to sell? Sounds like your on the right path

Hi, Im in Paonia CO about 5 hours from Denver. You can reach me at me email. stefanocreatiniyt@gmail.com

Yeah, hes in western Colorado

@@StefanoCreatini TY. Great videos !

100%

It sounds like the issue with the Durango farm was that the exit terms were insufficient or didn't exist. Lots of people get screwed on handshake deals. I am assuming Stefano took more care to get terms in writing with the new partnership since he spent some time discussing the lack of paperwork on the previous partnership.

Hi, best is to email me, s.creatini@gmail.com

cheap land yes... its hard to find good communities

Naw that’s way off. The average American farm has a negative income. Most farmers don’t make a living. Making a living makes you the exception to the rule. There’s also no shame in farming on the side. Back in the day almost nobody farmed full time cause it’s easy to fit in a support trade. The guy who built up our home lease originally ran a top notch dairy farm, shoed horses, and did metal work. I farm full time, but it’s definitely more normal not to.

@@swamp-yankee what are you talking about? most established, full-time farmers make an average annual income lol (now, if you look at the per hour earnings, it's often horrible). You can't stay full-time farming if you don't turn a profit. Historically, people did other stuff in the winter (because they could), but the primary source of income was farming (I myself even work part time in the winter to help pay things off faster). Nothing wrong with farming on the side, but saying that most farmers are in the red every year is laughable. Growing up, my dad rarely had a year where he profited (his cut after expenses were paid) less than $50,000 (and that was on less than 800 acres farming hay, soy, and corn, of which he only owned 200 mortgaged acres at the time). Most farms aren't profitable until year 6, with profitability generally increasing the longer they're in business (well established stats from the USDA and many other ag-related organizations). The guy who walks onto a random plot of land that they've never farmed, with little to no experience growing for market, and can turn 100k gross the first couple years is a comically small percentage of farmers.

@@wildrangeringreen I’m talking about census data. Most American farms operate at a slight annual loss. I’d love to be wrong about that, but I’m pretty sure I’m not.

I have to agree. So many of us Americans are just stupid. There are books, research and farming examples of unconventional ranching and farming that are wildly successful. But do we educate ourselves and follow proven, wildly successful practices, however unconventional? Oh hell no. Most Americans just stick with the familiar 'cause their granddaddy did it that way and then have to have a job in town to support the farm! The big ag companies, the artificial fertilizer companies, food and drug thieves and the AMA lie right to our faces (& hide & kill massive amounts of information) but do most people try to find the truth anyway? Again, hell no. THEY ARE PLAYING US and most Americans just believe their massive, disgusting lies! We're simply stupid and America is circling the toilet drain because of it. The city folk eat all this poisoned crap from chemical agriculture and GMO fields and get sick when the information and wisdom to save them is all around them. Everybody is making money off of the destruction of the country and I am just SICK of IT! I am deeply disappointed in most of my fellow countrymen for their lack of VISION! For only one of many, many examples, Greg Judy right here on KZfaq is WILDLY successful with a herd of only 300 cattle because he practices regenerative, rotational grazing. Drought? What drought? He is ROLLING in green grass and green money because he is smart and does the RIGHT thing. He made many mistakes. He read the information, learned from other brilliant people and became successful! But do his neighbors see his lush, fertile fields where theirs are dry and bare and want to emulate him? Oh, Hell no, once again. Some down at the local gossip hole actually claim that he just gets more RAIN than them!!! Now that's a deep, deep capacity for STUPIDITY! Every rancher in the country should be eagerly emulating Greg Judys' wisdom right now and they too wouldn't be going out of business like everybody else is. It's exactly the same with Permaculture and regenerative agriculture. There's no reason under the sun beyond lack of intellectual curiosity (or at least the ability to copy those who are already rockin' it) that any farmer in this age of new information and rediscovered wisdom should not be rolling in cash. Instead, like the others have said in this thread, The VAST majority of farms are failing and the farmer has to have a town job just to stay on the farm! Pathetic! Judy's own accountant was shocked that he wes turning a profit. "You can't do that! Nobody does that!" "You'll bring attention to yourself!" Apparently not... As I get older, I become so disillusioned with my fellow Americans. Well, and truly inspired and awed by the small number of innovators, lovers of truth and developers of amazing new (& old) Ag wisdom. I'm extremely excited to witness where Permaculture is going to take the select few with a brain on their shoulders. Just watch what Permaculture is ALREADY doing in the DESERT!!! Brilliance and idiocy, dancing madly with each other. Ya just can't make this shit up!!! P.S. I certainly did not wish to imply that Stefano is in the 'stupid' category! I forgot which video I was under... Heh. He is learning. I AM LEARNING! We're all (those who try at least) are learning and there is no shame in making mistakes. They're necessary. I'm talking about all those sticks-in-the-mud who are not even trying and WE ALL know who THEY are. Someone like Greg Judy has made MASSIVE mistakes and that's why he's so successful now. We all need to learn from people like THAT!!!