I'm British but the Home Office made me stateless

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PoliticsJOE

10 ай бұрын

I've never left the UK but the Home Office made me stateless
Angela Jones is British, her parents were British, she was born in the UK, and she's never even left the country.
So why isn't that good enough for the Home Office?
Ed Campbell went to find out.
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@zen-rt
@zen-rt 10 ай бұрын
The Home Office have effectively made her a refugee in her own country. What a crazy situation.
@lolikon30
@lolikon30 10 ай бұрын
Next step - she will be deported to Rwanda. Home Office at its finest.
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 10 ай бұрын
Legally her home country is Malawi.
@thegreypenguin5097
@thegreypenguin5097 10 ай бұрын
@@MichaelGGarry obviously not
@archive3339
@archive3339 10 ай бұрын
@@MichaelGGarry NO it isnt. clearly theres nothing between your ears in fact im not sure your ears themselves work
@yodamandala
@yodamandala 10 ай бұрын
@@MichaelGGarry shes 100% British....
@stevenblomer7738
@stevenblomer7738 8 ай бұрын
The sad truth here is there are people working in the home office who are not only incompetent, but clearly have no moral backbone. They know what they are doing is wrong, but they simply don't care.
@ArmageddonAfterparty
@ArmageddonAfterparty 7 ай бұрын
They are what every totalitarian system in the making needs, what it can not do without, add to that a citizenry that stands by and watches it happen and voila, welcome to Britain.
@Parrotting
@Parrotting 7 ай бұрын
She’s being discriminated against by a home office Karen.
@vegasmike
@vegasmike 7 ай бұрын
@@Parrotting has zero to do with discrimination.
@Parrotting
@Parrotting 7 ай бұрын
@@vegasmike hi Karen
@DonEkz21
@DonEkz21 7 ай бұрын
@@vegasmike none of us know the motive it could be discrimination, it could not be. We don't know 🤷‍♂
@lorettaobrien8599
@lorettaobrien8599 8 ай бұрын
That's civil servants ABUSING their power and not applying the rules fairly and without prejudice....
@whitewhite4462
@whitewhite4462 7 ай бұрын
Should have done this to the Islamic immigrants instead of thus girl
@hks-lion
@hks-lion 7 ай бұрын
@@whitewhite4462how come?
@whitewhite4462
@whitewhite4462 7 ай бұрын
@@hks-lion yesterday 2 football fans in Sweden were shot by a warrior of Allah (perpetrator recorded the video and claimed as warrior ) , a teacher in Paris of Russian chechnya muslim stabbed a random person just because he was angry of Palestine conflict, people don't wanna risk getting migrants inside anymore.
@hks-lion
@hks-lion 7 ай бұрын
@@whitewhite4462 how many murders are committed by white atheist men each day?
@CalvinCooke18
@CalvinCooke18 7 ай бұрын
Black axe gang member 😂😂😂 F them freeloaders
@Sato393
@Sato393 7 ай бұрын
This is shocking she is a British citizen and she should sue the government, her life is on hold because of this, I hope she gets justice and sort this out
@ramdas363
@ramdas363 6 ай бұрын
She isn't a British citizen. Didn't you watch the video at all? Her not being a citizen is the problem.
@josephlennon8475
@josephlennon8475 12 күн бұрын
Are you a solicitor by any chance?
@Oharadanny123abcdefg
@Oharadanny123abcdefg 10 күн бұрын
She's not. That's the problem. You never watched eh?
@swisscottagecleanairaction
@swisscottagecleanairaction 10 ай бұрын
What a lovely person and for her to be treated so horribly wrong by the state makes your blood boil.
@tank-slushy4727
@tank-slushy4727 8 ай бұрын
She isn’t stateless, she has citizenship from Malawi, which means she can’t apply for citizenship as a stateless person. She was born during the January 1983 - July 2006 period, out of wedlock to a British father and a foreign mother, which means she doesn’t even need to apply, she can just register. This girl and 99.8% of people in this comment section don’t even understand how citizenship works. Like, citizenship is such an important topic, your life depends on it; so why is this not taught in schools?
@tank-slushy4727
@tank-slushy4727 7 ай бұрын
@@KirparamKaiwai 3:12 - 3:17 ^ proof that she was born out of wedlock. + I am from the UK, how do you know 100% that I’m not? Who wait you don’t, you’re just speaking out of your arse.
@agarjakendu
@agarjakendu 7 ай бұрын
Can't tell if we watched the same video. She explicitly said that she doesn't have citizenship from Malawi. Being a decent human being doesn't cost a thing.
@tank-slushy4727
@tank-slushy4727 7 ай бұрын
@@agarjakendu She also said her mom and from Malawi and wasn’t a British citizen. According to the Malawian nationality law, that would make her a Malawian citizen. Also it has nothing to do with being a decent human being. You can’t have a passport without first having citizenship. She is eligible to register as a British citizen, she just doesn’t know it.
@luringen947
@luringen947 7 ай бұрын
​@@agarjakendubeing a decent human being is the reason why europe is full of terror murder and rape. so why not concentrate on you and your people's behavior towards those who have opened their doors and given you all the opportunities in the world! decency!? 🖕
@stephensmith2601
@stephensmith2601 10 ай бұрын
'It doesn't make sense' - that sums up the Home Office pretty well. It's time to end this hostile environment and this government that is hostile to all decency.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
💯👍
@Arltratlo
@Arltratlo 10 ай бұрын
if she had more money or blond hair, she would be better off!
@johng.1703
@johng.1703 10 ай бұрын
unfortunately it does make sense, she didn't get UK citizenship from her mother, as her mother wasn't a UK citizen at the time of her birth, and her mother and father wasn't married at the time of her birth, so she doesn't get UK citizenship from her father.
@perro0076
@perro0076 10 ай бұрын
The irony is that we have a huge pension time bomb and the easiest and quickest way to fix it is for immigrants to get jobs and start paying taxes. In the UK there just aren't enough babies being born to pay for an ageing population. The government must create the infrastructure so that people can afford to live where the jobs are.
@gHGhej
@gHGhej 10 ай бұрын
​@@johng.1703And her brother? How does that make sense? 🤔
@susanduke9835
@susanduke9835 7 ай бұрын
How ridiculous! This country has well and truly lost its way!
@M_SC
@M_SC 7 ай бұрын
It’s better than it was. I dealt with these issues in 1993. Her parents failed. When I was in Japan in the 00s the foreign people whose babies were born there didn’t assume citizenship in either country. Of course every birth requires paperwork. Her parents were negligent.
@Lion-O-Richie2040
@Lion-O-Richie2040 7 ай бұрын
Oh you think only now it has? Country was fucked years ago.
@claudiaalexandrafernandes2084
@claudiaalexandrafernandes2084 7 ай бұрын
O meu filho também nasceu aqui e está na mesma situação 🤦‍♀️ e disseram que tem que fazer o teste sendo que tida vida estudou aqui tem tudo affff hipocrisia total
@HowieHoward-ti3dx
@HowieHoward-ti3dx 7 ай бұрын
Sorry, she's not British. She is African. Needs to go back there. Only white people can be British.
@BritGeeks
@BritGeeks 7 ай бұрын
I would love to see an update on this. The fact an application can fall on an individual's interpretation of the law is terrifying. More so that she doesn't appear to be able to appeal their decision.
@Essorvivace
@Essorvivace 10 ай бұрын
Hi Angela. I'm sorry you're going through this. Please go online and search for a form called "UKF for British citizenship". You can fill out this form to register as a british citizen since your father was British when you were born. The UKF citizenship route is for anyone who falls within this situation: - You would have become a British citizen (if your parents had been married) if: You were born in the UK on or after 1 January 1983 and your father was a British citizen or settled in the UK at the time of the birth If this is your situation, then you can send an application to UKVI using the UKF form which you can get online or you can make an online application and submit documents to support your claim. The application fee is just £80 and the application process lasts 6 months, involving interviews a lot of identity evidence. It also involves biometric capturing. I hope this helps. I wish you luck with the process if you are finally able to apply.
@jacovichstabs841
@jacovichstabs841 10 ай бұрын
Props for the helpful comment, I hope this process works for those born before July 2021 (parents had to have been married) whose father was a british citizen at the time of their birth. I think it's ridiculous that we have different laws on citizenship for people depending on when they were born. We ought to just streamline the law so it applies retroactively and allows those who's parents weren't married at the time of child's birth to still be granted citizenship if at least one parent is a British citizen, y'know.
@Essorvivace
@Essorvivace 10 ай бұрын
@@jacovichstabs841 Children born by July 2021 to British fathers should have automatically been British at birth regardless of whether or not the child's parents were married at the time of their birth. The UKF citizenship route covers the period between January 1983 and July 2006.
@jacovichstabs841
@jacovichstabs841 10 ай бұрын
@@Essorvivace Yeah, I guess I just don't understand why we have this tiered system. Surely the law should apply equally and retroactively. I feel it needs to be streamlined to avoid causing people to have to go through these expensive and time consuming hurdles.
@mohabatkhanmalak1161
@mohabatkhanmalak1161 10 ай бұрын
That 1982 amendment to nationality law only says ".......one parent is BC or is settled in the UK". It does not say anything about the parents being married and the description "settled in the UK" needs to be looked at in detail. Also, more information is needed, eg where was the father born or how and when did he get BC, where was the mother born and how and when did she get BC plus the parent(s) immigration status from the time they left their first country to when they got BC.
@Essorvivace
@Essorvivace 10 ай бұрын
@@mohabatkhanmalak1161 Thanks, but in Angela's case, the British citizenship status of her father was not in doubt at the time of her birth and I would like to think the UK Home Office must certainly have passed his citizenship application under the kind of scrutiny that would normally involve the kind of research into his background, origin and identity that you have described, before granting him British citizenship. Therefore, that's not left for Angela to deal with. Also, Angela's brother was issued a British passport without issues, having applied just like Angela did and that is because he, like Angela was born in the UK but unlike Angela, must have been born after their mum had gained British citizenship, thus leaving Angela's right to automatic British citizenship by birth in the UK hanging on Angela's father's British citizenship. If Angela was born after their mum had gained British citizenship, she most certainly would have acquired British citizenship at birth through her mum, just like her brother did. But that was not the case. Angela then falls under children born (in or outside of the UK) to British fathers who were not married to their mothers at the time of their birth, between January 1983 and July 2006. These children could not be considered British citizens by descent automatically, due to the UK nationality laws that required their parents to have been legally married before they can have the right to claim British citizenship automatically at birth. Fortunately, the Home Office have, since 2015, now considered these sets of children as British citizens in retrospect (under article 4G of UK nationality laws as amended in April 2015), which has now opened the UKF citizenship route to this category of children, under which Angela falls. The difference between children born within that period whose parents were legally married and those whose parents were not, is that the former were automatically considered British citizens by descent and would therefore be eligible to apply directly for a British passport, while the latter are now being required since 2015 to apply for British citizenship by registration through the UKF route, and pay a token application fee, in order to gain British citizenship before they can apply for a British passport. I hope this helps.
@glenndavid8725
@glenndavid8725 10 ай бұрын
This government makes me sick to the stomach.
@jonmould2946
@jonmould2946 10 ай бұрын
She looks African to me.
@Shaggy-8392
@Shaggy-8392 10 ай бұрын
​@@jonmould2946- you look Greek to me.
@0w784g
@0w784g 10 ай бұрын
Sounds like incompetence at the home office to me. Don't worry, their union just won them a pay rise. Perhaps that will increase their competence.
@californiadreamin8423
@californiadreamin8423 10 ай бұрын
@@jonmould2946. What have looks to do with this. Listen to her voice.
@y_ffordd
@y_ffordd 10 ай бұрын
Its not just this government, this is a very old policy, it’s just that previously they didn’t go around with megaphones and threatening letters saying go home.
@albavellozo6035
@albavellozo6035 7 ай бұрын
When I was born neither of my parents where British citizens, my dad not even European but I was allowed a passport because back then it was the law that if you’re born here you’re automatically a citizen. One year after my brother was born they changed the law. Im very thankful my parents where on top of it or this would have been me. It’s so important to make sure your children are properly documented!
@kevin_uk
@kevin_uk 7 ай бұрын
Yes, but this doesn't always work, people who've had passports for years and are just trying to renew can end up in similar situations.
@magnusE7
@magnusE7 7 ай бұрын
If a tourist gives birth in another country the child will get their parents citizenship. So it was a good change.
@HowieHoward-ti3dx
@HowieHoward-ti3dx 7 ай бұрын
Sorry, she's not British. She is African. Needs to go back there. Only white people can be British.
@newdog587
@newdog587 7 ай бұрын
Honestly, the person who rejected her application must be investigated for racism and discriminating behavior.
@Aguyfromthe60s
@Aguyfromthe60s 5 ай бұрын
Oh the race card, well done!
@rustledjammies8769
@rustledjammies8769 4 ай бұрын
They followed the rules very literally, which are very clear. British nationality rules are incredibly complicated. For certain people born at a certain time or place it only applies if their father, for example, was a citizen. Also Empire citizens (British subjects) could at one point live anywhere in the empire but when rules were changed some of these were either reclassified or deported which made matters very tricky. Spike Milligan, for example, was one such person. He was born in India in 1918 and was a British Subject until 1960 when they changed the rules and he was refused a British Citizen passport. He became stateless until 1962 when he gained Irish citizenship as his father was Irish, and remained only Irish until his death in 2002 (rules then and now give Irish citizens settled status, an effective direct continuation of the Empire citizen rules).
@experimentalme7438
@experimentalme7438 4 ай бұрын
Nah sounds like a massive mistake due to wrong data...
@dedewill5258
@dedewill5258 Ай бұрын
What if the person was implementing the regulations, also was black would they be racist also. But anyway a bit of common sense from the passport office. Your heart goes out too her.
@evamilsap1312
@evamilsap1312 10 күн бұрын
​@Aguyfromthe60s why because it is the truth.
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Theresa May, this woman's problems can be laid at your door. Aided and abetted by the plethora of Home Secretaries who've followed her example. 😐
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 10 ай бұрын
She's fucking British! FFFS!?!
@capt.bart.roberts4975
@capt.bart.roberts4975 10 ай бұрын
There's no right of appeal? How fucking convenient! 🔥👿🔥
@bojancicic5453
@bojancicic5453 10 ай бұрын
Indeed, never forget what that woman did to many citizens of this country and the world
@jackbaynes3959
@jackbaynes3959 10 ай бұрын
I did not know it was May who did this. Even if it was her, the blame lies on the entire Conservative Party because of how it's gone from no deal Brexit to Rwanda immigration bill lunacy.
@1flinns
@1flinns 10 ай бұрын
You think the Tory,s give a fig. This is what they wanted. There are not stupid and have created this as part of there long term plan of hate to control divide and rule. I can't tell you how much I detest them.
@joex2004uk
@joex2004uk 10 ай бұрын
Two words: Hostile Environment. Theresa May has a lot to answer for.
@y_ffordd
@y_ffordd 10 ай бұрын
It’s been standard Tory policy since Churchill, Labour hasn’t done anything to address when they were in power, they fear losing the white supremacy vote
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 10 ай бұрын
Conservatives let in 1 million immigrants just last year
@mattwhite4971
@mattwhite4971 10 ай бұрын
@@evolassunglasses4673 and?
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 10 ай бұрын
Four words - Law of the Land. It was the law long before Theresa May.
@joex2004uk
@joex2004uk 10 ай бұрын
@@MichaelGGarry one word: bollocks
@deeallen1526
@deeallen1526 7 ай бұрын
The UK stopped birthright citizenship in the early 80s. I don't think the mom was a UK citizen when this girl was born.
@anotherelvis
@anotherelvis 7 ай бұрын
Her father was, but apparently that is not enough.
@nairobi804
@nairobi804 10 күн бұрын
But if her parents are british doesn't that make her British
@TM-rq3jp
@TM-rq3jp 7 күн бұрын
They are using law changes to catch people out
@Tinkerbell-Cc3361
@Tinkerbell-Cc3361 5 күн бұрын
You’re right, her mum has to be British at the time you was born or you’re not British and she would have to go through a naturalisation herself.
@Tinkerbell-Cc3361
@Tinkerbell-Cc3361 5 күн бұрын
@@nairobi804 they need to be British at the time she was born.
@user-md1qz7ie2q
@user-md1qz7ie2q 7 ай бұрын
Her mum was not British citizen and did not settle in the UK (no leave to remain visa) when this girl was born. Her mother applied for citizenship later. Therefore the daughter is not a citizen automatically, and she needs to reapply properly.
@nealjulien7469
@nealjulien7469 6 ай бұрын
This is total shit once you born in a country you are a citizen even if your mother was a citizen of another country....the point is the child was born in the country
@susanhonegger9987
@susanhonegger9987 10 ай бұрын
What a horrible place the UK has become!
@YorickReturns
@YorickReturns 10 ай бұрын
It's what the people want, unfortunately.
@Know-Your-Nation
@Know-Your-Nation 10 ай бұрын
Please don't come to Australia
@callumward7503
@callumward7503 10 ай бұрын
​@@Know-Your-Nationwe sent our unwanted ancestors down there eons ago.
@oluwajuwonakingbade3945
@oluwajuwonakingbade3945 3 күн бұрын
​@@Know-Your-NationAustralia belongs to the indigenous native Australia.
@davidmcculloch8490
@davidmcculloch8490 10 ай бұрын
Neither this government nor the Home Office are fit for purpose. Unless that purpose is to divide society for the benefit if their puppeteers.
@mikedelacruz9531
@mikedelacruz9531 10 ай бұрын
totally agree
@gman1087
@gman1087 10 ай бұрын
Spot on
@lesleywright2823
@lesleywright2823 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely, this government love seeing people suffer, especially the poorer amongst us, they are vile! 😡
@roberto8650
@roberto8650 10 ай бұрын
It's not a matter of the HO or the government, it's your legislation. She isn't a citizen, unfortunately.
@YorickReturns
@YorickReturns 10 ай бұрын
Anyone who supports even the slightest restriction of immigration is in favour of dividing society.
@vanessay4
@vanessay4 7 ай бұрын
Same happened to my older sister and you know what’s crazy is that I was entitled to citizenship and got a passport but my sister applied for a passport and they rejected it, said she’s stateless! She had to prove she’s from uk and grew up here etc! But she’s been voting and had credit in uk. Eventually she passed the citizenship test 🤦🏾‍♀️ and we went to the ceremony with immigrants it was soo strange because they were all surprised she had a British accent and now she has a passport!
@magnusE7
@magnusE7 7 ай бұрын
If a tourist gives birth in another country the child will not get citizenship of that country, you get your parents citizenship. So blame your parents.
@Kerynasta
@Kerynasta 7 ай бұрын
@@magnusE7 Depends on the country. Not everywhere has the same laws. In the USA for a long time it was as you say, here it wasn't. People get this wrong all the time.
@HowieHoward-ti3dx
@HowieHoward-ti3dx 7 ай бұрын
Sorry, she's not British. She is African. Needs to go back there. Only white people can be British.
@geraldtalbot6400
@geraldtalbot6400 6 ай бұрын
​@CME77 not true in every country and also not true if you are born on an ocean liner as the child would assume the sovereignty of the nationality of the company that owns the ship
@lillyflopsy6540
@lillyflopsy6540 7 ай бұрын
She needs to see an immigration lawyer. She can apply for citizenship under the 10 year rule applicable to those born in the UK and spent the first 10 years of their life in the UK.
@josephlennon8475
@josephlennon8475 12 күн бұрын
More expense for the British tax payer.
@aituk
@aituk 10 ай бұрын
What a shambles. I feel so sorry for her. I hope you can follow this up to see if it gets resolved. Has she written to her local MP?
@jamieeames8934
@jamieeames8934 10 ай бұрын
Her local MP (probably Tory), will tell her they are only able to represent Citizens.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
Might be worth a try..
@mattwhite4971
@mattwhite4971 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Kerynasta
@Kerynasta 10 ай бұрын
All she needs to do is formally apply for UK citizenship which she will get, and then she can get the passport. Yes it's bullshit but those are the rules and have been for a while. The UK does not have a rule whereby you get citizenship just by being born here.
@noramartin96
@noramartin96 10 ай бұрын
They don't bother to respond in most instances
@ChrisMinusHumour
@ChrisMinusHumour 10 ай бұрын
Can we make Suella Braverman stateless?
@noramartin96
@noramartin96 10 ай бұрын
YES!!!!
@bernieburrows3731
@bernieburrows3731 10 ай бұрын
Oh please, let the answer include a one way ticket to Rwanda.
@sarahashun1180
@sarahashun1180 10 ай бұрын
🤣😂Yes please!🤣😂😆
@SuzanneO707
@SuzanneO707 10 ай бұрын
@@bernieburrows3731 Yeah, the land of milk and honey?
@rab251
@rab251 10 ай бұрын
Send her back to India!!
@Charles-sg9zu
@Charles-sg9zu 7 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry to hear about that. The UK government is really messed up right now and we need change for the system.
@PrototypeFreak89
@PrototypeFreak89 7 ай бұрын
We need a Labour government. None of this cruelty would occur like the tories are doing.
@Charles-sg9zu
@Charles-sg9zu 7 ай бұрын
@@PrototypeFreak89 Labour is the new Tory.
@PrototypeFreak89
@PrototypeFreak89 7 ай бұрын
@@Charles-sg9zu All brexitards say the same 💩 because they are paranoid that if Labour gets in, they will take us in the eu where we do belong with are neighbors. No, Labour are not Tories and you're just talking rubbish. My father is handicapped and had his benefits scrapped because of Tories and stupid brexiteers that are to blame. Under Labour he would be safe.
@rebeccaolayinka3861
@rebeccaolayinka3861 7 ай бұрын
I’m so sorry you have had to go through this. Keep going and do not give up. I’m praying 🙏🏾 that it will all work in your favour.
@Scotland2306
@Scotland2306 10 ай бұрын
Braverman, Sunak and Patel families certainly took advantage of our generosity, pulling up the drawbridge and burning the ladders now though. Sick.
@The-Anti-Zionist
@The-Anti-Zionist 10 ай бұрын
A special kind of sick, like sadistic level governing
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 10 ай бұрын
Immigration is international finance capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. No economy will invest in training or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour. Oligarchs love immigration. Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration.
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 10 ай бұрын
Conservatives love mass immigration as its cheap labour and future consumers for capitalism. That's why they let 1 million in last year. Capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in is a race to the bottom, particularly for the working class.
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 10 ай бұрын
​@@The-Anti-ZionistTorys let 1 million in last year. Drags down wages.
@The-Anti-Zionist
@The-Anti-Zionist 10 ай бұрын
@@evolassunglasses4673 the Tories keep wages low like by paying nurses shoddy wages so our nurses move to Australia and we import foreign nurses. Be teachers next. We do need immigration but the Brexit hard right way to go about things is absolutely the wrong way.
@MsLollipopification
@MsLollipopification 10 ай бұрын
This had me shook. Exact same thing happened to me a decade ago and it's so scary that this is still happening... Born in England. Lived here my whole life, never stepped foot outside the country. Both parents were originally from Ghana. One had citizenship at my birth, the other got it later. The Home Office still said I was stateless when I applied for a passport. Had to pay thousands to get naturalised; it put us in debt for years. Very indicative of Britain's attitude to us as a whole. My heart goes out to you hun 💜
@tecumseh4095
@tecumseh4095 10 ай бұрын
Question. Were you denied Ghanian citizenship, too?
@MrWolff__
@MrWolff__ 10 ай бұрын
home office are keeping blacks out.
@MsLollipopification
@MsLollipopification 10 ай бұрын
@@tecumseh4095 I've never applied for it. Never been to Ghana either though I'm hoping to change that soon.
@lov5334
@lov5334 10 ай бұрын
@@MrWolff__ We should stay out a build up our original country, see how long they can survive without us black ppl (Edit) we pay to much to stay here the home office are the biggest Scanners in the world
@AAA-we2st
@AAA-we2st 10 ай бұрын
If one parent had citizenship at your time of birth then I really don’t understand why they made you stateless, but very glad you’ve manage to sort it out.
@jhanicenelson3301
@jhanicenelson3301 6 ай бұрын
Give this lady her passport!! This is shameful!! Home office do the right thing and Apologize!!!
@josephlennon8475
@josephlennon8475 12 күн бұрын
No.
@moyah8
@moyah8 9 ай бұрын
A friend of mine was born 3 days before the 2001 rule that stated that your parents had to be married for you to get British Citizenship. Her dad was British and her mom was Spanish, but she was not entitled and had to pay citizenship fees.
@Paradox370
@Paradox370 10 ай бұрын
this is shocking. she needs to sue the government under the human rights act!
@GanghisKhan
@GanghisKhan 10 ай бұрын
With what mobey for lawyers? I wish suing was easy the world would be a fairer place
@cabaroigcostablanca
@cabaroigcostablanca 10 ай бұрын
Better still,she should run in the next election against Cruella in her constituency, and boot her out on her a**.... that would be poetic justice. Slogan "you won't let me leave...I made you leave". On Angela's career "break a 🦵".
@y_ffordd
@y_ffordd 10 ай бұрын
The government see her as from Malawi though, it’s like as if her parents had a working visa. It’s wrong but legal.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
​​@@GanghisKhanould find someone to do it pro bono! Test case and all that.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
​@@y_fforddIt's bollocks. If you're born in the UK, you're British. Period!!
@AKAndoh
@AKAndoh 10 ай бұрын
This is a DISGRACE. They are taking advantage of an orphaned person. She needs a good lawyer, please step up.
@Kerynasta
@Kerynasta 10 ай бұрын
No she doesn't, she just needs to apply for UK citizenship, which she will get, then she can have a passport. The rules are weird but those are the rules.
@jackgillies5638
@jackgillies5638 10 ай бұрын
@@Kerynasta What makes you think she is entitled to UK citizenship under the current HO rules? I suggest a lawyer best be in charge of her case, incase they deny her citizenship, claim she is here illegally - and try and deport her.
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 10 ай бұрын
Its the Law of the LAND! It has been the law for a VERY LONG TIME.
@Kerynasta
@Kerynasta 10 ай бұрын
@@jackgillies5638 because she's been here for a long time (assuming she's been here twenty years she's absolutely entitled to citizenship, I thought it was five but apparently it's twenty at worst.) That's the rules.
@jackgillies5638
@jackgillies5638 10 ай бұрын
@@Kerynasta OK fair enough. Be interesting to find out how it goes.
@user-mn2vc7ep8c
@user-mn2vc7ep8c 8 күн бұрын
I had “indefinite Leave to Remain” when my daughter was born, her mum was non-uk citizen. My daughter was eligible how a British passport because I was a UK resident, and did not hold British citizenship at the time in late 2019.
@user-md1qz7ie2q
@user-md1qz7ie2q 7 ай бұрын
Home office try to reduce the number of UK passport holders due to the system abuse as most non-Uk nations later attend religious demonstrations on the streets and there are hardly any actual Britons left in the country. I see home office being very strict with refugees too. Times have changed that’s how I understand it.
@thegreenmanofnorwich
@thegreenmanofnorwich 10 ай бұрын
The Home Office has been dysfunctional since 2010. The people I know who work there absolutely hate it. It's utterly inhumane and despicable
@YorickReturns
@YorickReturns 10 ай бұрын
This is what immigration restriction means in practice. 100% of people to the nearest percent support some significant degree of immigration restriction, even though even the slightest immigration restriction leads to cruelty and economic harm.
@thegreenmanofnorwich
@thegreenmanofnorwich 10 ай бұрын
@@YorickReturns no, this is not an inevitable consequence of immigration restriction.
@YorickReturns
@YorickReturns 10 ай бұрын
@@thegreenmanofnorwich Of course, it is. There is no "humane" way to violate freedom. But people want the impossible. If you don't want a "hostile environment", you want de facto open immigration, in which case we might as well have de jure open immigration (which I certainly would want).
@thegreenmanofnorwich
@thegreenmanofnorwich 10 ай бұрын
@YorickReturns no, "hostile environment" is not a prerequisite for immigration restriction. Either you don't know what it means or you have misunderstood its history
@YorickReturns
@YorickReturns 10 ай бұрын
@@thegreenmanofnorwich Someone comes here illegally. What do you want to happen? If you want them to be allowed to stay, de facto there is no immigration restriction. I want the law to be changed, so there are no immigration restrictions. So I don't have this problem.
@tarrinpun3798
@tarrinpun3798 10 ай бұрын
Her brother got the passport but not her? How is that making any sense here?
@y_ffordd
@y_ffordd 10 ай бұрын
An overworked passport office made a mistake, her brother got lucky, fucked up
@mattwhite4971
@mattwhite4971 10 ай бұрын
@@y_ffordd A mistake which cost her citizenship, that’s a pretty big mistake to make.
@rehurekj
@rehurekj 10 ай бұрын
or her mother may have passed the threshold for the required change in status, e.g. from temporary to permanent resident. there are children of eu citizens, now legally settled in uk, who aren't automatically British either cos the status of parent at time of their birth matter.
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 10 ай бұрын
@@mattwhite4971 No, her mother cost her her citizenship. It looks like her brother should have been refused too, correctly under the law.
@genwoolfe
@genwoolfe 10 ай бұрын
Brother is younger & born after 82, or perhaps has a different father? Neither were explained yet either one would make sence. HTH
@diana-cy4kj
@diana-cy4kj 7 ай бұрын
That’s why it is very important to properly document your children, especially if parents are not native British.
@Flutella123
@Flutella123 7 ай бұрын
How very strange…to think this is a common occurrence. So heartbreaking. I do hope this gets sorted, and the right people see this to help her.
@LeornianCyng
@LeornianCyng 10 ай бұрын
Wish Cruella was made stateless.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
Me too!! 💯👍
@y_ffordd
@y_ffordd 10 ай бұрын
With all that money? No chance, but it would have been funny to have seen her on the first flight to Rwanda, but I would prefer to see zero flights, even if that means suffering her and let’s face it, the white supremacy behind her actions is going nowhere.
@jimschannel2220
@jimschannel2220 10 ай бұрын
Send her to Rwanda.
@abzhaji301
@abzhaji301 10 ай бұрын
I really sympathise with her, as someone who has been fighting my case against the home office for over 10 years and recently got successful decision, I really hope her situation gets sorted out soon so she can pursue her dreams and career.
@werdna2602
@werdna2602 10 ай бұрын
Same here, 8 years, only granted in January, then two weeks after receiving I was already working
@abzhaji301
@abzhaji301 10 ай бұрын
@@werdna2602 I’m soo happy for you and glad to hear that you are now working. You can now look forward to the future and don’t look back. Wish you all the best for your future endeavours. 🙏🏿
@diopfifi4937
@diopfifi4937 10 ай бұрын
​@@werdna2602that's good. You cannot do anything in this country without legal documents
@monicanath4859
@monicanath4859 7 ай бұрын
God bless this lovely lady! I pray that everything she works out for her. Suella should be ashamed of herself ❤❤.
@sarangistudent8614
@sarangistudent8614 10 ай бұрын
My sister was a true blue Tory, moved here at 2 weeks old from Uganda in ‘70, much like Priti Patel or Suella. Last year she went to renew her passport and they refused her and threatened her with deportation. When she called to HO to find out why, they refused to talk to her, and it was up to her white partner to call and then they spoke with any respect to her. They only apologised to her partner and not to her and she managed to sort it out eventually. She’s finally realised that she can’t vote for Tory or any of these right wing parties.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
Bunch of racists!
@pexijsanchez
@pexijsanchez 10 ай бұрын
Shame on her. Little coconut 🥥😅
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated 10 ай бұрын
I’m glad she saw the light, it’s a shame it took that, though!
@ms-terious
@ms-terious 10 ай бұрын
​@@pexijsanchezshame on YOU. Don't 'fight' alleged prejudice with prejudice. You are not the arbiter of how people of colour should feel and act. Drop the 'coconut' shit.
@Shikuesi
@Shikuesi 10 ай бұрын
How come she was issued a passport before without trouble? The relevant legislative environment hasn't changed
@DJMarcusGrant
@DJMarcusGrant 10 ай бұрын
Passport Office had done me the same! Born here in 1988 to parents who had naturalised in the 70s, lived here all my life, been through the full educational system, spent 10 years working for the NHS etc. and they refused to give me a British passport until 2015 because they refused to believe I was a British Citizen... missed out on family trips, lads holidays and allsorts... bare in mind I have a National Insurance card, pay National Insurance and everything lol. I would advise reaching out to the Home Office as them and the Passport Office do not communicate with each other at all. The Home Office will be the ones to issue you a letter, confirming your nationality, which you need to give to the Passport Office. They also offered my family a full refund of all the money we put in to applications, legal fees etc because they realised how much of a fuck up they made on my case. Best of luck to you sis!
@riyadougla539
@riyadougla539 10 ай бұрын
That was horrible. It's like they don't want us to stay in this country.
@JAEGATS
@JAEGATS 10 ай бұрын
Once i got to the national insurance part i couldn’t believe it lmao. Thats crazy bro i hope it works out for you
@Femmefatale32000
@Femmefatale32000 7 ай бұрын
​@@riyadougla539this is nothing new. Sadly there have been many examples of this. The Windrush scandal is a big example.
@abenabonsu9447
@abenabonsu9447 7 ай бұрын
The cut off for automatic citizenship ended in 1982 during Margaret Thatcher's reign. If you are not ethnically British the burden of proof is on you. Your mother should make sure you get a passport while she is alive. Makes things easier.
@AdeilHussainSabri
@AdeilHussainSabri 7 ай бұрын
This is madness! I really hope the young lady can get it sorted. It’s also a life lesson for the rest of us, if your parents, grandparents or great grandparents emigrated - get your passport sorted asap! In my family my elders and now our generations have always tried to get our children’s passports asap after they are born. My grandparents moved to the UK after WW2 as they were soldiers in the British Indian Army and were offered passports as part of the UK’s effort to increase the working population after WW2.
@emb21982
@emb21982 7 ай бұрын
The same thing initially happened to me when I applied for a passport, I was rejected because I applied through my Dad who was born in India but was half British. However luckily we went to apply in person rather than through the post, and a kind person at the passport office happened to notice my Mum was with me (she is Irish) and let me re-apply the same day with her details instead. The passport system can be very confusing and I feel bad for this young lady having to deal with losing her parents and now this on top. I wonder if it would be worth it to consult a lawyer to help with her application. I hope she manages to get it sorted!
@HowieHoward-ti3dx
@HowieHoward-ti3dx 7 ай бұрын
Sorry, she's not British. She is African. Needs to go back there. Only white people can be British.
@mamaraah2578
@mamaraah2578 6 ай бұрын
Wow. You were so very lucky.
@davidmacaart953
@davidmacaart953 10 ай бұрын
This isn’t just the home office, there is a culture of blame & evading responsibility endemic within uk bureaucracy. Any mistake made is immediately blamed on the victim of that mistake & misinformation is denied to the hilt with each department covering for the next. These are aspects of a fascisized bureaucratic system & the primary cause of “the mental health crisis” I have been documenting my experiences over the past 5 years & have a wealth of evidence showing the deliberate evasion tactics, consistent & standardised gas-lighting, contempt, disdain & general mental abuse from every institution you can think of from private corporations to GP Practises to Councils & even MPs offices. Ive been documenting this in Scotland so it makes no difference where you are in the uk but financial & professional position within the social hierarchy does. Complaint procedures are worthless as are ombudsman. They exist only to present the illusion of concern but unless you have a favourable financial or professional position you will be subjected to a mental maze of bureaucracy & dehumanisation. This is Fascist UK, all we can do is document it for posterity so perhaps future generations can be protected from this evil.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 10 ай бұрын
Good on you for having the organisational gumption to document it all. Someday that could be valuable for something. I certainly can recognise bits of what you detail here in my own experiences. To say the bureaucracy has been fascisized... what a perfect way to put it, honestly. Puts me in mind of the time I went out to one of the cheaper supermarkets and saw a billboard advertisement right outside it, depicting a realistically-drawn man's head getting crushed in a giant vise, and this was to "remind" people to make sure their benefits are up to date. I had to turn around and immediately go home, with what that did to my mental health. On top of everything else, what an absolutely deliberate attempt to invoke misery (that worked). Thought to myself, I work so hard to avoid "unalivement" (gah I hate that term but youtube is youtube and you can't say the proper one). But this government? They're just telling me to go ahead and bloody do it. That's what that is right there, after everything else. I couldn't go in that area again without covering my eyes until I was sure that ad was gone. And even way back then (during Cameron) everyone already knew that none of those battles needed fighting whatsoever; universal payment had been shown to be significantly less expensive than the whole entire thing. You knew that and you'd been through all those fights and you knew it wasn't even an unusual number of fights and it wore you down and then you saw a damn insult, a damn taunt, like that. If it weren't for all this I'd still have significant mental health issues for other reasons, but they'd definitely be less numerous and less sharp to a significant degree. You're spot on. It's mental abuse. "Oh our departments don't talk to each other" the number of times I've heard that - why the heck not? No possible reason aside from wanting to cause problems. It's not even the mere absence of systems design for why things work how they work, it's more like the presence of designed sabotage. These people are pure unforgivable evil.
@noramartin96
@noramartin96 10 ай бұрын
@@Torthrodhel Why can't you say the S word because that's what it is .I''ve just tried to Google the S word and the site blocks it, Insane .Can we still say lavatory or is that also banned!
@davidmacaart953
@davidmacaart953 10 ай бұрын
@@Torthrodhel thanks for the reply! The only reason I came into the world was because my great uncle helped to liberated my Dutch Fathers family from occupation after The Hunger Winter in the Netherlands. The 1st meal I learned to cook was Pea & Ham soup which was all they had to live on for an entire year. Him & my Opa (Dutch Grandfather) became life long friends which is how my mother & father met. The damage that Nazism did to my Dutch family (& father who’s earliest memories were of being starved) was profound & visible. They were so damaged & tormented by it the topic of fascism has always been very real for me. I grew up learning & reading about fascism & spoke with people who experienced it 1st hand. The thing that terrified them the most & the excuse that many Nazis gave at the Nuremberg trials was “it was the machine” meaning the bureaucracy. This is how fascism comes into being, through a process of dehumanisation & violence through administration. From Umberto Eco to most recently Dan Gretton I have read extensive texts on the phenomenon so I speak from an authoritative position on the subject so it is not a hyperbolic use of the term & I fully intend to write about it from the UK perspective as others have done historically from the German, Italian, Spanish , Portuguese & Chilean perspectives as each manifestation shares as many different traits as those in common (one of my closest friends is Portuguese & his family also suffered under Salazar’s so called Soft Fascism). We must reassure people it is not them that is going mad, it is a natural reaction to the break down of civil society & the phenomenon of fascism which draws upon aspects of left & right politics but is in fact anti-political & draws out what Theodor Adorno identifies as “The Authoritarian Personality”. During this time we must be cautious & suspicious of anyone who holds, or is close to power. Stay well my friend & stay healthy as much as you can, we’ll need all our strength to survive this. Kindness & mutual aid are our only weapons! Solidarity to you & your loved ones ✊
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 10 ай бұрын
@@noramartin96 it's ridiculous and horrible to not be able to say the proper word for it, and it's just because advertisers don't like it. Sometimes I see it, but I do know posts get stealth-hid, and the words youtube doesn't like are the ones that can do that, and you never know whether it happened or not, so these days I just try my best to avoid them. Makes it extra awkward to talk about something that's already extra awkward to talk about.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 10 ай бұрын
@@davidmacaart953 solidarity back to you in return. That's a really interesting perspective, whereas I'm more coming from a place of only having learned about it through cultural osmosis, until the point where I recognised the government resembling it more and more, which I'd guess to be a more typical angle. I am of the personal opinion of top-down control being important, the difference being "for what" and the political compass puts me halfway up the "authoritarian" scale although I think that test is very flawed honestly (far on the left, on the other axis). I'm not fully convinced fascism takes so evenly from either side, although that's obviously my own bias talking (and much less informed than yours). Maybe I've been sufficiently ground down to think of rightist ideals as necessarily villainous, by example. I can't really fathom what another example would be, though. It all seems to boil down to the essential idea of some people being above and beyond others by virtue of naught but arbitrary selection. I just can't chime with that, it seems to be the very seed of evil. I still think a system needs enforcing in order to not just instantly be overtaken by a different system. My thing is it should be a good system with design and purpose behind it, and absent of obscurity. I dunno. I could be an idiot with this sort of stuff, who knows. It's not anything I'll ever have a say in anyway. Should a call come to stand up for what's right in whatever capacity I'm able, I'll do my duty. Elsewise I'll just try and leave the world better than it would've been without me in it.
@martincopeland8153
@martincopeland8153 10 ай бұрын
See also the Home Secretary’s Asian parents both born in third countries and who, presumably, have been awarded British Passports. Reflecting the truly English principle “I’m all right Jack, pull up the drawbridge.”
@y_ffordd
@y_ffordd 10 ай бұрын
Yeh as she has travelled abroad she already has a passport, either because she got lucky in her application or her wealthy parents applied for citizenship. Its fucked up.
@peterreed3104
@peterreed3104 10 ай бұрын
Suella Braverman's parents are Both Economic Migrants By Her Definition! and would be Deported Today She is a complete Hypocrite And So is the PM whose Parents are The Same Economic Migrants!
@Kerynasta
@Kerynasta 10 ай бұрын
Well yes but if they've lived in the UK for 5 years and applied for citizenship then they're entitled to the passports just like anyone else. Them's the rules...
@martincopeland8153
@martincopeland8153 10 ай бұрын
@@Kerynasta at the moment. Let’s see what the future brings when Sue-Ellen’s Warr-on-Sea “Ultimate Answer” Conference bring forth its propositions for her next illegal bill.
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 10 ай бұрын
These laws were implemented decades ago, but I guess it's all Tories fault.
@TheAnthraxBiology
@TheAnthraxBiology 7 ай бұрын
Insane how Braverman has a passport and this woman doesn't. One of the most evil people to ever serve in government.
@organismseven3700
@organismseven3700 8 ай бұрын
If a dog is born in a Stables it doesn't make it a horse.
@edward6438
@edward6438 11 күн бұрын
If a migratory bird flies over a man-made border does the bird need to show its right to stay in the other country? Animals have more freedom than humans.
@L.S.Thompson
@L.S.Thompson 11 күн бұрын
​@@edward6438 It's because the West is all about race and religion. And the East is about culture and language.
@whophoto1
@whophoto1 10 күн бұрын
That’s a dum statement. Come to USA and we would welcome you with open arms.the UK just lost a good person and we have HOLLYWOOD . Does the UK have such a place.🥳🤗🍾
@organismseven3700
@organismseven3700 10 күн бұрын
@@whophoto1 "and we have Hollywood" Not sure if you are being sarcastic. If genuine, you should take first prize for the most shallow and dumb comment of the year award.
@Thelma7361
@Thelma7361 10 ай бұрын
That examiner needs sacking.
@kaira9094
@kaira9094 10 ай бұрын
I hate the fact this is happening to people, our Government should be ashamed of themselves and helping people like Angela out instead of doubling down on the xenophobia, bigotry and racism they have festered in this country of the last few years.
@AodhanBeag
@AodhanBeag 10 ай бұрын
It’s ordinary day to day people that are suffering the consequences for the actions and incompetence of others which is scandalous
@georgecromar4094
@georgecromar4094 10 ай бұрын
When we black ppl complain about these things we're told that we have Chip-on Our-Shoulder🤔
@b62boom1
@b62boom1 10 ай бұрын
@georgecromar4094 you only get called that by bigots and hate goblins, who've got a chip on their shoulder. They're very angry people, and are furious about everything, all of the time. It must be exhausting, which is probably why they're so grumpy.
@kaira9094
@kaira9094 10 ай бұрын
@@b62boom1 I agree, The whole situation is a mess and we've let hateful people spread this hate for far too long already, it needs to be stopped.
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 10 ай бұрын
Its the law! Its been the law for DECADES. Peoples ignorance of the law is no defence - this poor woman should have been Malawi, not British, at birth. Not her fault at all, but her mother should have applied for her children at the same time she did for herself. Thats how it works!
@LondonLabs
@LondonLabs 6 ай бұрын
We've had no update on this. I've searched and searched but its like its been brushed under the carpet. What has happened?
@rulyddumbrique7846
@rulyddumbrique7846 7 ай бұрын
SO WHEN ASKED TO FILL A FORM WITH THE QUESTION ASKING NATIONALITY, WHAT THEN THAT FORM WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE OR IS THER AN OPTION LIKE NO NATIONALITY OR CITYZEN.
@carpog
@carpog 10 ай бұрын
Disgusting and shameful. There are no other words to describe what the Tories are doing to this country.
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 10 ай бұрын
How's it Tories fault?
@mcfcguvnors
@mcfcguvnors 10 ай бұрын
@@leehenry5764 May changed the laws ,as did cameron for their own benefits & shares - may denied implied rights for citizenship when born here thats why we cover up pregnant migrants " all men " is what the news says - women are taken back to prevent the very thing pulled on ^^ her - the right to live here when born here
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 10 ай бұрын
This isn't the Tories, its very VERY long standing UK law. Where you are born does not matter at all and never has.
@leroysimon5692
@leroysimon5692 10 ай бұрын
👍🏾
@leehenry5764
@leehenry5764 10 ай бұрын
@@MichaelGGarry It does if your parents already are British citizens, however if they are not, then they can't be British or get a British passport, and neither can your family.
@vincentvangogh8092
@vincentvangogh8092 10 ай бұрын
Tory moved to be closer to ukip because they knew that UKIP was getting stronger so they adopted their policies bringing them intoo the tory party, that media sold labour as the racist party was beyond incredible
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 10 ай бұрын
Torys let in 1 million in last year
@stonehengemaca
@stonehengemaca 10 ай бұрын
​@@evolassunglasses4673we know. The tories celebrate it every opportunity they get. In-between their vile illegal attempts to dehumanise refugees, they remind us how welcoming the uk is and how generous we are.
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 10 ай бұрын
This isnt the Tories, not the current bunch anyway, its the law of the land.
@John_Lyle
@John_Lyle 10 ай бұрын
​@@MichaelGGarryThe law of the land isn't handed down by gods it is debated and passed by governments. And which collection of politicians have been providing the government recently if not the festering Tories.
@riyadougla539
@riyadougla539 10 ай бұрын
​@@evolassunglasses4673You mean 600,000?
@dejaexplains1883
@dejaexplains1883 7 ай бұрын
Yes same thing happened to my mum and us. We were born here, her mother came here on the Windrush (my grandad also from Gambia came first before ) so she was automatically naturalised as a child but faced issues later on. Me and my siblings are now recognised but we were stuck between Britain not wanting us and Gambia because we werent recognised as citizens even tho we were born here , never left . We attended school up until uni where my only choice was to apply as an international student. We actually have a part in a bbc documentary called ‘Who should get to stay in the UK? ‘ episode 2. We were very fortunate to have a solicitor that became family to us during this time working endlessly to finally find documentation that was found in a library that a lady stored from the 80’s that showed evidence that supported our claims written by the government at the time but wasn’t accessible to the public online or found written anywhere publicly. I was 12 when we had to move out of our house to dingy hostels , sofa surfing, separated from my mother and siblings as we weren’t able to be all together due to space. Im 24 now still waiting for a home but we can see the light 🎉 I hope everyone going through something similar all the best and to continue to fight for what is right x
@dejaexplains1883
@dejaexplains1883 7 ай бұрын
earlier than 80’s opps
@CC-fi3pp
@CC-fi3pp 7 ай бұрын
This happened to me, I'm born in Britain, so are my parents, I grew up with a grandparent (who is not originally from the UK) who after they past I was then completely estranged from my family, my mother refused to sign my passport application. I have never left the UK. It took me 18 years (being refused from age 19 to 37) to get my passport. An absolutely wicked university teacher mocked me repeatedly over the situation and called me a liar (the university was demanding my passport), I got accused of being an illegal immigrant at several job interviews, I almost got deported several times, it was an experience I'd wish on no human being ever.
@bookinsights1092
@bookinsights1092 7 ай бұрын
You are an illegal. Go back.
@27453ehdurbri
@27453ehdurbri 7 ай бұрын
So sorry to hear about your situation
@abiolaonikoyi3782
@abiolaonikoyi3782 7 ай бұрын
😢
@numbafiveonatbankshit9103
@numbafiveonatbankshit9103 7 ай бұрын
That sad sorry
@attackpatterndelta8949
@attackpatterndelta8949 10 ай бұрын
This is an absolute disgrace and a source of national shame.
@etiennebunbury1285
@etiennebunbury1285 10 ай бұрын
It’s an absolute disgrace and source of personal shame that she and her parents FAILED to travel to France in her 28 years that failed to get her papers in order. Everyone regardless should have their passport to the ready!
@vitalyl1327
@vitalyl1327 10 ай бұрын
@@matthewsmith3592 so, basic government structures making dumb mistakes and taking ages to do anything at all is not a total disgrace and a national shame? Just more proofs that this country have a very unhealthy level of tolerance for incompetence.
@Torthrodhel
@Torthrodhel 10 ай бұрын
@@etiennebunbury1285 why the hell would she go to France when she's not French? wtf has France got to do with anything, did you even watch the video?
@ottomanwilde4836
@ottomanwilde4836 10 ай бұрын
@@matthewsmith3592 She should never have been denied citizenship in the first place.
@Flat_Earth_Addy
@Flat_Earth_Addy 10 ай бұрын
I agree. Put her in prison!
@IshtarNike
@IshtarNike 10 ай бұрын
3:03 it's so arbitrary. Such discrepancies shouldn't be allowed.
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 10 ай бұрын
Indeed, her brother should have been rejected. Thats the error.
@heartgenerator4967
@heartgenerator4967 10 ай бұрын
​@@MichaelGGarryman, it must be fulfilling to troll comments like this, I'm sure if she was white you would have a lot more to say about it mate
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 10 ай бұрын
@@heartgenerator4967 WTF? I don't care about the colour of her skin, I am talking about the law of the land. As the father of mixed race children who have gone through all of this across multiple countries myself.
@lornawilliams550
@lornawilliams550 6 ай бұрын
What a lovely, intelligent young woman Angela is. The Home Office's action is absolutely ridiculous and random. They seem to be making it up as they go along and refuse to admit to their mistake. Clearly reflective of the attitude of the Secretary of State for that department. I hope their decision gets reversed. Keep fighting for the justice you deserve!
@leenam.4578
@leenam.4578 7 ай бұрын
This policy of not granting citizenship to children born to parents who were not citizens at the time of their birth impacted a friend of mine but they left the U.K. Many couples come to the U.S. for long enough to have a baby, called 'anchor' babies, to be able to claim citizenship through that child. Britain caught on, the I.S. has not.
@007JHS
@007JHS 10 ай бұрын
Cruella Braverman was born in Britain to refugee parents. Why does she get a UK passport but this lady does not? This is beyond merely unjust.
@sutt1tclo143
@sutt1tclo143 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely true it oght to be criminal, that's why certain countries end up at war, a beneficiary from refugeeism should not be allowed to impose such a selfish hard spineless wicked and inconsiderate right to limit the futures of the poor, vulnerable and needy in this nation, she has proven totally unsuitable for the position. This nation is going to be resented for many years because Suella Braverman and Pritty Patel. Eda Amine knew what he didn't want, and these 2 politicians are exactly that, to be hated by the needy, method of death so vicious that GOD himself will need to get to work his vengeance upon them for wicked they bistow on the innocently needy, watch her corner!
@marcuswilliams467
@marcuswilliams467 10 ай бұрын
I was just about to say the same thing.
@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559
@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 10 ай бұрын
Her parents may have sorted it out when she was a child, like this woman's parents should've done. The citizenship status of a child is something that parents should take seriously, and not leave it to chance. It sounds like you're not familiar enough about the rules of citizenship to know whether the Home Office was actually being discriminatory or unfair to her. Citizenship rules ARE discriminatory - whether a person is automatically a citizen depends on several factors, including the birth place, citizenship and marital status of the parents, and the birth place and date of the child. This means that 2 siblings can have different entitlement to citizenship, even if they were only born a year apart. If her brother was born after 2006 and she was born before 2006, different rules would apply to them. The story makes none of this clear - it's vague reporting designed to make people angry, but the Devil is in the detail, and this report gives none of it.
@SuzanneO707
@SuzanneO707 10 ай бұрын
@@lavienestpasunlongfleuvetr2559 Okay, people make mistakes. And maybe they were too busy working and surviving, its not her fault. I'm not angry. She seems like a decent person.
@diorocks5858
@diorocks5858 10 ай бұрын
because her parents applied for citizenship then was approved
@billkosses3808
@billkosses3808 10 ай бұрын
We need a hostile environment for billionaires, aristocrats, royalty and government, and *against any and all attacks on the working class.*
@SuzanneO707
@SuzanneO707 10 ай бұрын
Thinking that myself, your welcomed with open arms if you are rich or exploitable.
@henry0380
@henry0380 10 ай бұрын
The only problem is that it's the billionaires, artistocracts, royalty and government that control everything...
@Kat-zi2tb
@Kat-zi2tb 10 ай бұрын
You're*.
@noogate2672
@noogate2672 10 ай бұрын
Like mass immigration.
@8888zada
@8888zada 10 ай бұрын
Becareful what you wish for...the submarine just happened.
@wulung5943
@wulung5943 7 ай бұрын
Parents are British and she was born in UK. WHY? By these ruling the Home Office has declared all UK people as non citizens
@leowillow
@leowillow 6 ай бұрын
I came to the uk 11 years ago and I have a British passport, make it make sense
@chrissayers7076
@chrissayers7076 10 ай бұрын
I think racism at work here, my ❤ go out to her.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
I think so too! 😏
@Shikuesi
@Shikuesi 10 ай бұрын
@@oneoflokis Except that doesn't explain why her brother got it. So maybe it's sexism too? Except that the rules in this case resulted in this outcome precisely because of in-built anti-male sexism, if you note what the spokesman said.
@user-ux9ll3yk5y
@user-ux9ll3yk5y 10 ай бұрын
It's always racism, everything is racism.🤷
@dylanwilson7544
@dylanwilson7544 10 ай бұрын
solid bit of journalism, this home office is looking for us to slip up!
@MichaelGGarry
@MichaelGGarry 10 ай бұрын
Its awful journalism as they do not spend the time explaining the law and just go for the sympathy route.
@Kabaselefh
@Kabaselefh 7 ай бұрын
In Canada 🇨🇦 she would have been a citizen without problems. I moved to Canada 🇨🇦 in 2007, my daughter who was two when we moved here got Canada 🇨🇦 citizenship in 2010 when we got our citizenship.
@mkleng
@mkleng 7 ай бұрын
She should write to the PM, no?!
@temi6034
@temi6034 10 ай бұрын
This is not a video i want to see, currently trying to get my British passport and waiting on the home office, and i've been living here for my whole life. but i wasnt born here. had to do the stupid life in the uk test. smfh
@Zen-rd9np
@Zen-rd9np 10 ай бұрын
Good luck! We’d be lucky to have you! My step mum also had to do that and the whole family collectively couldn’t pass it.
@davidmcculloch8490
@davidmcculloch8490 10 ай бұрын
Good luck. Some of us value immigrants and many contribute so much to our society (except for Tory ministers, who ruin our country in most cases).
@Sou1defiler
@Sou1defiler 10 ай бұрын
If it's any consolation, if everyone in the UK was to take a citizenship test at least 90% would fail it miserably. Good luck to you with your passport.
@indetermite
@indetermite 10 ай бұрын
@@Sou1defiler Yeah. And I'm the one here that's trying to get OUT of the UK, not in.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
​@@Sou1defiler💯👍
@lilshine1234
@lilshine1234 10 ай бұрын
The case is unfortunate. When Angela stated that her mother got her British citizenship when she was 16, the Home Office Treated her like an adult. Probably that’s why the brother got his citizenship. Being born in the UK after the 1980s doesn’t qualify one for British citizenship. With the hostile policies that the Tories have introduced to ‘reduce net migration’ they provide a stupid excuse. Hopefully Angela get her citizenship soon.
@anon19800
@anon19800 10 ай бұрын
It is actually anyone born in the UK after Dec 1981 does not automatically qualify as a british citizen. Unless the parents are settled with indefinite leave to remain or one of them is a british citizen. There is a category where this lady can apply for british citizenship, if she brings proof she lived in the UK for ten years or more as a child , for example proof of attendance of a school in the UK. Even though the fact that her mother has british citizenship should be proof enough.
@SELondonUSA
@SELondonUSA 10 ай бұрын
The British government has been tinkering with the laws regarding citizenship for decades, certainly since the 1960s. Objective is to exclude dark-skinned people. They tightened up regulations for Aussies and Kiwis, and some other whites to appear even-handed. I don't know precisely where things stand now.
@rentisme
@rentisme 7 ай бұрын
The examiner: we like to do a little trolling
@sareedoahmed1751
@sareedoahmed1751 7 ай бұрын
Loads of nieces and nephews are in this situation. They do have some of them have dutch one but born here. Always lived here they got refused. For no apparent reason.
@B0M0A0K
@B0M0A0K 10 ай бұрын
I was born in the UK and have lived here all my life. There is little about this country that I still recognize. It's a petty, small place who's time has long past. Weak politicians, petty bureaucrats trying to be "little lords" and not an ounce of compassion or common sense. This young woman is British, pure and simple. Someone somewhere needs to work on growing a few more neurons and recognize that fact. This sort of thing just makes me sick to my stomach.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
I think so too! 💯👍
@ukLORCANAfan
@ukLORCANAfan 10 ай бұрын
well said
@carlpeckett1393
@carlpeckett1393 10 ай бұрын
Born and grew up in the UK. My wife is a US citizen and the bs we've had to put up with due to our messed up visa application process on top of huge hikes in immigration fees planned make us feel like she's not welcome and by extension I don't feel welcome in my own country.
@jonmould2946
@jonmould2946 10 ай бұрын
The change is due to mass immigration.
@hodor6159
@hodor6159 10 ай бұрын
​@@carlpeckett1393 I have experienced a similar thing. My wife is Chinese and we have given up trying to get her allowed into the UK. We have decided to make China our permanent home.
@7juanita
@7juanita 10 ай бұрын
The Uk passport office states that any child born after 1982 will take their mothers nationality. Therefore if your mother did not have a British Citizenship when you were born, you won’t be British regardless of whether you were born here.
@lloydfrancis9149
@lloydfrancis9149 9 ай бұрын
REALLY since when, I never knew that. I was born into 75 my parents and parents came to England to help fight Hitler from Caribbean built the country up but that was Antigua St John West indies which essentially belonged to Prince Philip and Queen Elizabeth. The whole thing is weird
@jujuangus3610
@jujuangus3610 9 ай бұрын
@@lloydfrancis9149 I believe this change came under Margaret Thatcher.
@7juanita
@7juanita 7 ай бұрын
@@lloydfrancis9149 since approximately 1992. I remember it distinctly
@irson8981
@irson8981 7 ай бұрын
The UK is no longer English, but a mixture of fifty shades of brown. What a sad situation, that in the near future the UK culture will disappear. I have visited London and certain neighbourhoods look like 3rd world countries.
@chari20b
@chari20b 7 ай бұрын
No point blaming the home office it’s her mothers fault not going through the right procedure
@richardglover314
@richardglover314 9 ай бұрын
No person has ever had control of where they were born, therefor it should recognized throughout the world that you must automatically at the very least be a citizen of the country where you were born. What additional rights you gain by virtue of your parentage is a secondary issue but nobody should be born stateless.
@georgexenakis3545
@georgexenakis3545 7 ай бұрын
Is there an update to this story? I cannot find anything.
@simongore
@simongore 10 ай бұрын
May you find the right advocate and the right ears in the home office to restore fairness in this matter. Keep going and remain resolved.
@Mr_Goodstart
@Mr_Goodstart 10 ай бұрын
Probably no longer can trust Labour Party to deal with this situation either since they're keen to keep many Tories policies. It's unfair how the home office has turned a simple application into a unnecessary complicated mess.
@wedwardes
@wedwardes 10 ай бұрын
Labour now is now to the right of Thatcher and Cameron
@MrTangolizard
@MrTangolizard 7 ай бұрын
Being born in the U.K. doesn’t mean u are a citizen one of your parents must be British citizens to be classed as British however the fact her mother and father are British means she should be entitled unless her mother and father became citizens after she was born then she has to apply in her own right
@michaelasmith174
@michaelasmith174 7 ай бұрын
Quite odd because her situation is the exact same as mine, except my mother is Jamaican & my parents are living? I got a passport though…
@0307785pk
@0307785pk 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing Angela's story. Hope she gets sorted soon. The hone office needs to get their act together. Surely, someone can see the girl is British and grant her her passport.. Best of luck, Angela , stay strong..🍀🍀🍀
@ljt3084
@ljt3084 10 ай бұрын
Write to your local MP and the opposition party (Labour) Notify the main stream media, try the Guardian newspaper.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
💯👍
@wedwardes
@wedwardes 10 ай бұрын
Labour won't touch this. They are scared of the racist red wallies.
@read-ts2cd
@read-ts2cd 7 ай бұрын
I dont understand why people like this blame the government for the failures of their parents! It will get resolved eventually. It's a bizarre situation and needs a bit of investigating.
@MichelleG-wx7nj
@MichelleG-wx7nj 7 ай бұрын
British citizenship for Children born in the UK British Citizenship at birth is only available to children with a parent who holds British Citizenship or settled status. For a child of non-British parents to receive British Citizenship by birth, at least one parent must have 'settled status' in the UK.
@ulrichbehnke9656
@ulrichbehnke9656 9 ай бұрын
The refugee crisis has affected a political paranoia - you can see that in every western country. 😰 The people talking about „too much foreigners coming here…“ and voting for ultraright parties. The politicans reacting with laws to aggravate pressure on foreigners to leave the country or get expelled. All authorities, home offices, police, justice system - becoming very very hostile 😡to persons who they think are illegal or seek for asylum. This situation has got toxic for our societies. I don’t blame it on the refugees. There is no solution in the moment. Looks like we end installing inhuman methods - shooting on refugees at the borders… ☠️
@jarzhinio
@jarzhinio 10 ай бұрын
Amazing that a Government can make a citizen stateless just like that. Amnesty International have called the UK governments policies "a cold hearted attack on human rights" how can anyone hear this story and disagree?
@TheValeyard92
@TheValeyard92 10 ай бұрын
Most people don't disagree. The filth who support this scum just don't believe in human rights, because they believe (wrongly) theirs will always be safe.
@Brizlebird
@Brizlebird 10 ай бұрын
She never was a citizen, thats the point.
@jarzhinio
@jarzhinio 10 ай бұрын
@Brizlebird that's your point. Amnesty's point is that it's a despicable, archane policy fuelled by hateful paranoia from bitterly selfish individuals.
@SuzanneO707
@SuzanneO707 10 ай бұрын
@@Brizlebird Does a uber rich so called business person, from abroad have the same problem? No, wonder why?
@Andrea-ld9cy
@Andrea-ld9cy 10 ай бұрын
@@Brizlebird ohhhh I see, didn't realise as vid started to bore me.
@b62boom1
@b62boom1 10 ай бұрын
The cruelty is the point, for some insane Tory reason.
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
Damn all Tories!
@Shikuesi
@Shikuesi 10 ай бұрын
Rather than just slag off the Tories for a law made in 1981, why not at least also ask why Labour never corrected it in 13 years in office. Let's see if they take the opportunity shortly coming up.
@b62boom1
@b62boom1 10 ай бұрын
@Shikuesi because the Tories have been in power for 13 years, and have made everything much worse than Labour ever did. This girl's plight is happening right now. When the Law was made and by who is irrelevant.
@kellyj.azania4371
@kellyj.azania4371 9 ай бұрын
I hope there is a positive update. I pray the situation has been sorted.
@beepboopbeepp
@beepboopbeepp 7 ай бұрын
How is this possible? Can someone explain this please is it due to her parents failing to apply when she was small or some other reason?
@Pining_for_the_fjords
@Pining_for_the_fjords 10 ай бұрын
Can she not get the Home Office to find the person who made the decision to refuse her a passport? They should be made responsible for explaining their decision and providing this woman a route to rectify it. Also how is there no appeals process for a denied passport?
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
Pressure from the liberal and left media will be needed I think..
@Pining_for_the_fjords
@Pining_for_the_fjords 10 ай бұрын
@@oneoflokis Or anyone with any influence who cares about human rights.
@Shikuesi
@Shikuesi 10 ай бұрын
It's not down to what an individual had for breakfast, it's application of the rules as the spokesman explained - yes, in this case it's led to a weird outcome, so there should be some discussion as to how to improve the law.
@Timothy_Jacobs22
@Timothy_Jacobs22 10 ай бұрын
The passport office can't give someone citizenship. They'll have advised her to naturalise or register with the home office, which she would be eligible to do.
@joannagreaves7616
@joannagreaves7616 10 ай бұрын
@@Timothy_Jacobs22 but she was born in this country and her mother was settled here.
@AlwaysStaringSkyward
@AlwaysStaringSkyward 10 ай бұрын
Can we crowd fund some legal advice for this brilliant young lady and get her the break she deserves?
@OneDigitalSoul
@OneDigitalSoul 10 ай бұрын
Was thinking the same thing. Please 🙏🏾
@oneoflokis
@oneoflokis 10 ай бұрын
Good idea! 👍
@y_ffordd
@y_ffordd 10 ай бұрын
Its funny as we used to provide free legal for this before the Tory’s withdrew it… wonder why
@roddo1955
@roddo1955 10 ай бұрын
Then do it. Let us know where to donate.
@monicanath4859
@monicanath4859 7 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏🏼❤️!
@alwoo5645
@alwoo5645 7 ай бұрын
Ive been trying to get a passport renewal for over a year now. The passport office is totally useless.
@malaikahansen
@malaikahansen 9 ай бұрын
There are so many incapable people in government offices in Europe too. You can have one question and get several different answers from the same office if you just ask different people there!! It’s just insane
@DeadWhiteButterflies
@DeadWhiteButterflies 10 ай бұрын
Whenever some prick tries to tell you that Immigration controls aren't racist, show them this and see what mental gymnastics they have to do to justify that position. And bet you no Canadian, Australian, New Zealander or American who lives in the UK has ever been at risk of being made stateless in the same way.
@evolassunglasses4673
@evolassunglasses4673 10 ай бұрын
Immigration is just capitalism importing an OVER SUPPLY of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration. No economy will invest in training or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour. Back in the day the Left understood this, even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration
@leslie-annmills-gomez8763
@leslie-annmills-gomez8763 10 ай бұрын
Well said
@yscol1313
@yscol1313 10 ай бұрын
Having first hand experience dealing with the Home Office, it seems whether your application is rejected is completely arbitrary, depending on who takes up your case and how they’re feeling that day. My wife applied for 3 6 month periods of health surcharge refund (she’s a heath worker), all for an identical job role with identical payslip evidence. 2 were accepted and 1 was rejected. Only difference being the officer looking at each application. It’s like playing Russian roulette when making any sort of application.
@sharonclarke5371
@sharonclarke5371 7 ай бұрын
True
@ssshenkie
@ssshenkie 7 ай бұрын
This story sounds like Bureaucracy gone horribly wrong. Especially since her brother did get it. I hope this case gets investigated and resolved asap.
@KeldonA
@KeldonA 7 ай бұрын
It's not Bureaucracy. Someone actually looked at her paperwork and chose to screw with her.
@ssshenkie
@ssshenkie 7 ай бұрын
@@KeldonA the fact that they couldn’t reverse it, sounds like a bureaucracy issue. Whether or it was done on purpose we don’t know, it’s your opinion
@TheAnonyy
@TheAnonyy 6 ай бұрын
Please get her to contact her MP to look into this.
@Stirlingshirecastle
@Stirlingshirecastle 10 ай бұрын
I'm not surprised at all. The home office is a brutal cold hearted monster. They've no regard to human life. They treated the Windrush generation appallingly & after getting caught they issued a lousy apology.
@grahamt5924
@grahamt5924 10 ай бұрын
They just follow the rules. It's not personal
@Stirlingshirecastle
@Stirlingshirecastle 10 ай бұрын
@@grahamt5924 Rules of discrimination?
@grahamt5924
@grahamt5924 10 ай бұрын
@@Stirlingshirecastle They are giving out citizenship, so it is their job to discriminate.
@Stirlingshirecastle
@Stirlingshirecastle 10 ай бұрын
@grahamt5924 Do you hear yourself what you said? So, according to you, It is their job to discriminate against people who were born in this country? Are you implying the home office was right to unfairly treat the Windrush the way they did?
@grahamt5924
@grahamt5924 10 ай бұрын
@Stirlingshirecastle Every country discriminates against people over passports. That is their job. Not everyone is entitled to a passport, so most people are discriminated against, as they are not entitled to a UK passport. It is their very reason for existing. I was born in Zimbabwe to parents who had Zimbwean citizenship. At 27, I was denied citizenship in the country of my birth and had to apply for a British passport because both my parents were born in Britain. It's exactly the same situation as this lady. I had to leave Zimbabwe. I never heard anyone say I had the right .to stay in Zimbabwe in 2001, just because I was born there.
@hatjodelka
@hatjodelka 10 ай бұрын
I find it very strange that I know people from overseas who have come here and got UK citizenship with relatively little trouble and yet I know others who have worked here for decades in vital professions, paid taxes, contributed to the UK in very positive ways but are in a very precarious position. Could it possibly be that the first group are white and the second group are not?
@carlpeckett1393
@carlpeckett1393 10 ай бұрын
There's still discrimination with white immigrants to a degree but I agree that the discrimination does lean heavily in that direction.
@Kerynasta
@Kerynasta 10 ай бұрын
No, if you've lived in the UK for five years you can apply for citizenship and if you pass the test you will get it. Yes, the test is piffle and a lot of British people would fail it but it's not subject to anyone's opinion, it's a legally defined procedure.
@carlpeckett1393
@carlpeckett1393 10 ай бұрын
@@Kerynasta the point is someone who was born and grew up here shouldn't have to pay to take a test that most British citizens wouldn't pass just to prove they're British enough to be a citizen.
@hatjodelka
@hatjodelka 10 ай бұрын
@@Kerynasta I think you're speaking about the theoretical situation rather than the reality for many people. I know people who have been threatened with deportation after decades of service to this country. It's not just the Windrush scandal, it affects more people than that. Perhaps you're too young to remember when people who had British passports suddenly found they weren't regarded as British any more after the end of the Empire. The most famous example was Spike Milligan who was born in India to a British Army father. He was so angry he applied for Irish citizenship when he was told he could stay British but only if he paid money to the Government.
@Kerynasta
@Kerynasta 10 ай бұрын
@@hatjodelka I'm talking about the rules the passport office would have used, so if you want to call that the theoretical situation, sure fine. The point is that the title of the video is inaccurate outrage bait and the real situation as so often is a bit more complicated than that.
@Dani20240
@Dani20240 6 күн бұрын
I was squatted and police did NOT help me because of bad law.
@jw2714
@jw2714 7 ай бұрын
This is totally shocking and outrageous. She is a British citizen!
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