Thanks for the correction. 👍

I have the forged wheels, they are gorgeous!

They do look nice to be fair.

Oh wow that’s not good. Very good when they are working though 😂

A "lot" having problems? Doubt that based on my many years of riding BMW's...

Shockingly I have a few mates that have said they wouldn’t buy another BMW because of the issues they had. But for every bad experience I’m sure there are many more good experiences

264'000 km on a LC. No serious problems that I coldn’t solve myself. Off course, if you throw the bike down from the second floor, you probably end up with a broken frame 😜.

It’s far too easy to get carried away with the extras. So much on offer. Can you lend me £21000 that I will never pay back?

Thank you. Yes I’ve tried the Ducati. Thats like a sports bike / adventure bike. A great bike. I will hopefully get down to Ducati soon to see what else they have.

Your very welcome 👍

I’ve pronounced it so many different ways I can’t keep up. I might have to watch this back to confirm.

A seriously good bike. Congrats. 🥂

It’s a very big financial decision to spend such an amount on a bike especially if it all goes wrong and you get nothing in return.

@@GillyBikes I may offer you £5000 for your 1300 GS in three years time. It's one hell of a risk for me though to potentially be lumbered with thousands in dealer costs at £150/hour 🤔 (On second thoughts; £3500 is nearer the mark 👍)

😂. Thats a big loss.

I agree with you on the ridiculous amount of tech that will cause issues down the line. Unfortunately, it's not just BMW. KTM, Ducati are all doing it. I'll keep my so far completely reliable Yam even though its 8 years old.

The Niken is a great bike. I love mine, but I do tend to change bikes every year or so and the Niken did 6000 miles last year. So it might be time for a change.

@@GillyBikes ahh t v m for the info , I was the same Change every 6 months sometimes ,. Just for interest . Used to be zx 10”s Gsxr”s etc , now Aprilia v4 tuono factory, 1290 ktm etc ,. Niken , what are they like in traffic ?,. & do they grip at front end , like the 44 teeth etc say ?.

Yes the front end sticks to the floor. So much confidence on the bends because of that. Makes it loads of fun. It’s a little bit wider than most but I have no problem filtering with it.

It’s a competitive market this KZfaq business. I had to reel them in some how 😂

These are loads better.

@markshirley7639 😂. And again. Not subscribing then 😂

Wow you must have gone for every single extra. I do agree though. Amazing bikes.

@@GillyBikes yep I got every option except the off-road suspension as I got the adaptive ride height instead!

@LifeOnTheSkids nicely done 😍

Yes, I’ve seen a few mention the faults that are popping up. I’ve decided not to get one yet. It’s far too much money and a risk. I like to tour and use my bikes a lot. With it being a brand new model and having faults pop up puts me off. I will let other people test them for a year or so and see what happens.

You always have to buy yourself a divorce present 😂. The blinkers can be moved from the hand guards as part of the enduro pack. You pay more for bigger hand guards and they move the blinkers to the normal position. (Another extra) 😳

I’ve always found the GS to be a bit dull and not very engaging but this bike is just like riding an enduro bike. Loads of fun and completely unexpected

@GillyBikes I'm sure I'll have a go on one eventually, but i might not even have considered it before you did this review (& used the word enduro). 🙂

Go and play on one. Thank me later 😉😎

Yes I believe they are the standard wheels. My mistake ☺️

That was my point. So manny extra things to pay for 👍

Well spotted. I only noticed it when I was editing. It’s a bit of a worry. Water getting into the usb port. 😳

If it’s dirty at least it’s being used as intended. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a dirty one 😂

@@GillyBikes I can't argue with you there

The 1300 has two brake options. The upgraded breaks (easily noticable by the silver calipers) are extra.

@@mossy-tube that must be for the European models.

When I went through the options there was a “better breaks” option on there. I can’t remember which pack they came with but it was at an extra cost.

Those BMW brakes are manufactured by Brembo , if you look on the back of the callipers ,they will probably have a Brembo logo stamped on them .

That’s my exact dilemma. So many other bikes out there that are much cheaper. I already have my Voge rally so that’s what I use for my off road rides. It would be purely for touring.

@GillyBikes hi yep hard decision sports tourer or GS many tour on both so its down to how they make you feel that is of cause if 20k is the ball park financially your in choice is large good hunting. Ride safe

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It was something like £250 if you got it on the new build but £1000 if you have one now and want it fitted. So it makes sense to add it on the build.

I would probably do the same. There are some good deals to be had on the 1250’s.

Brilliant. Thanks for the Sub. You feel my pain. I’m still fighting the urge to order one. But I would go for the trophy I really like the blue and white.

Actually with all the extras you could get 4 Voge DS525’s 😳. And you would have just as much fun 😎

@@GillyBikes an even better deal, and then you could always do 2-3 TRK 702 and a Benelli 500 lol

Yes. When you work it out like that it’s shocking.

Or even better the Voge 900 dsx or a CFmoto 800 mt

I’m looking forward to trying both of those

I need some joy in my life so I may well treat myself.

@@GillyBikesexactly !👌🏻

Have you ever had or have you ridden the Triumph 1200 XE? I’m getting interested in that bike. Do you have an opinion about it? Thanks👍🏻

I tried the tiger 1200 when it first arrived and I was really impressed with it. I thought it was better than the 1250 GS. It was more fun. But the R1300 is better. So I would say it sits nicely in the middle of both bikes. At this very high standard of bike though you would be happy with any of them 😎

I may have induced you in error. The BMW GS 1300 is an overall, every use bike and I decided to trade my GSA for it, considering the development of the new bike and because I concluded that the 30 L gas tank wasn’t really needed as I even on longer rides, I enjoy to stop between every 200/ 250 kms of riding. The 19 L gas tank of the GS 1300 is more than enough. I have another BMW. A R nine T Scrambler (2022 model and still is a new bike with 7000 kms on the odometer) but besides the roadster retro modern style of it, which I like , torquy and powerful enough, I feel a little cramped as it is a short structure of a bike as a whole it’s Beefy, nice massive, weights more or less 230 kgs, but is not big in length and the height from the seat to the ground it’s 820 mm, I flat foot it perfectly. So, I thought it could be an idea to trade it for a new Triumph Bonneville Scrambler 1200 XE and not for a Tiger. My question was concerning this Bonneville. If you have experience and personal knowledge about it. That’s what I was seeking in terms of opinion. Thanks man and sorry for misguiding in my prior comment 👍🏻

That’s true. ☺️

I think that’s down to my camera mic. In real life with the exhaust upgrade they sound pretty good. 👍

Yes I agree. I’ve decided not to rush into one. I’m going to wait and see what happens after people have owned them for a year or so.

@@GillyBikesno problem. enjoy when you get it .🎉

Don’t blame you. Great bikes and the introduction of the r1300 should bring the price of the 1250 down. 👍

Now that’s very tempting. I might take a ride over to Ducati and see what they have. 👍

Thank you. I’m revisiting the Benelli TRK 702 this week so hopefully that will help get this bike out of my system. But to be honest this BMW is amazing. Just a very big decision to spend such a large amount of money. Especially when I could buy two TRK 702’s and a royal Enfield Hunter and it still be cheaper than the GS. 😳

@@GillyBikes If you must own a GS I would leave it a couple of years ,& let the mugs with more money than sense cop for any teething issues & finish the factory’s job of longer term test riding to iron out any issues . Then buy a new one or better still a used model that’s in good nick that’s full of extras you would fit yourself ,that’s had any issues well sorted & save some bunce .

@maskedavenger2578 that’s not a bad idea. 👍

If the world had followed these views, or rather your advice, we might still be hanging from trees and using flintlocks today. You wouldn't be sitting in an internet discussion :-). For example, the view that anything over 8K is overpriced and that motorcycles should only be made with something basic (I'd like to know your definition of what "basic equipment" is in today's context of travel, traffic and road transport). Motorcycles are about emotion, fun, determination. Should sales be governed by your rigid ideas of "just the basics"? You may have a reasonable basis of reasoning, but the way you wrote it makes it look silly. I can almost feel the envy in this post. Presumably you don't even buy anything in a shop with regard to how it's packaged, equipped, recommended? My fifty cents only. Good luck and have many pleasant days.

@@hewlett62 You’re making ridiculous assumptions ,I am not saying everything that’s new ,is bad ,nor is it always for the good ,nor is anyone obliged to take any advise I might offer . To even suggest I may be envious ,is ludicrous , especially when I am in a position to walk into any high end motorcycle dealer ,& order their top of the range models with extras ,& pay cash. When I say basic ,I mean good quality serviceable standard motorcycle controls ,not a load of idiot tech to make up for poor motorcycling & navigation skills . Or the over use of unnecessary tech for the sake of pandering to nerds ,who consider motorcycles to be toys ,rather than what they really are ,which is two wheeled transport. If you might want & need all this tech & be happy to pay extortionate bunce in order to control your bikes & also navigate where your going ,that’s up to you . Some of use don’t require it or need it as we ,learnt to ride ,control & find our way around without it . All I am saying ,is all motorcycle companies ,should produce standard versions in their range ,with out all that slipper ,blipper quick shifter ,ride modes ,blue tooth ,shizzle or any other gubbins I don’t require . Just because I have a few bob to spend ,doesn’t mean I want to waste it on tat I don’t require . A fool & his money is soon parted .

I would have to buy it first 😂

That’s very true. Most buy on looks and the looks on this are definitely dividing opinions.

I love the looks, of the 1300. I purchased this bike and it's my first BMW. I finally found a Motorrad bike I really love, both looks and the performance.

@josephSF I agree. The GS fans are calling its looks. But I think it’s their best looking GS.

They are not for everyone. I thought the same about the previous 1250 and 1200. 👍