A WARNING TO PEOPLE BUILDING A SIMILAR ROUTER TABLE: I did a very similar build but when I went to route out the channel for the “miter slot” I happened to have put a screw for the side rail in that exact spot and therefor I attempted m to route through a screw with a straight bit. Keep that in mind when installing the screws from below and marking for your slot or T-tracks!
@rryybass3 жыл бұрын
Mr Brown, just one word after watching your video..... BRILLIANT
@BigTubz3 жыл бұрын
Serious set-up Keith. Your whole workshop now is a mighty spot. You should be extremely proud.
@pteddie69653 жыл бұрын
Keith, you did a great job on this router set up. In my opinion, including the router on your table saw table instead of having a separate router table is one of the best ways to maximize space in a small workshop. Thanks for sharing this video with us.
@kanedNunable3 жыл бұрын
i have a little one i built on the side of my job site dewalt saw. uses the same fence (with added MDF like keith). i work from a single garage so space always a premium. unlike these americans with their huge workshops :)
@66meikou3 жыл бұрын
You had a result mate with the plate and motor. Nice simple build. You should get a lifetime of use out of it.
@JohnMadeit3 жыл бұрын
That quick change chuck looks interesting.
@LogHouseFarm3 жыл бұрын
"For those who read them" lol... I will admit to occasionally reading some of the instructions. That lift looks really nice, I have that on my wish list!
@pteddie69653 жыл бұрын
That was a funny remark wasn't it, Log House? I laughed out loud when he said it. Keith is informative as well as a lot of fun to watch.
@JohnColgan.3 жыл бұрын
We can say RTFM to him in future then !!
@AngieWilliamsDesigns3 жыл бұрын
Love this. I have a space on the end of my table saw similar to yours. I have wanted to do this but was intimidated. This was super helpful.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Angie
@ksp12783 жыл бұрын
Your workshop is amazing, and this is a great addition
@shaunintheshed3 жыл бұрын
the router motor sure looks interesting. Great build Keith.
@petercoughlan1033 жыл бұрын
Great job as usual Keith 👍 it's funny you put this out the same day I come home from work to upgrade my router fence.
@mandyleeson13 жыл бұрын
Genius idea, Keith. I foresee many chamfered edges in your future....😉
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mandy, one of those jobs I've had on my to do list for ages, nice to tick it off 👍
@TouchWoodWoodworking3 жыл бұрын
Mounting the whole unit onto the side of the table saw is an amazing idea, nice one Keith!
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@loomko3 жыл бұрын
i love your friend the electrician hes perfect for keeping youtubes code enforcement off your back
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
He's a handy man to know. I'm useless with all things electrical
@BushmanOutdoors2 жыл бұрын
I get on really well with those Bosch router bits
@joh222933 жыл бұрын
Nice. I'm about to do this with my DeWalt saw... I already have a router table built (sits in a B&D workmate) but combining the two so you can use the table saw fence as you demonstrate is my plan also. From experience I can say you're going to end up adding T-track across the fence as well so that you can use feather boards there (and stops and other gizmos).
@eyuptony3 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith. What a very substantial router lift mechanism with nice long depth adjusting guides, I've never seen one built like that before. It looks well thought out and designed for industrial use along with the router head. Good table build it should last you a long time. Tony
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@erictheviking6723 жыл бұрын
Looks great, Keith. Just thinking how far you have come since I stumbled across your channel. Great to see your success/ development both as a craftsman and presenter. Thanks for letting us share it.
@jeffhall58882 жыл бұрын
"....and they called and asked is there anything we can help with,,," Me.."Hell Yeah! How big of a truck can I bring?!?!"
@davidhull16103 жыл бұрын
Nice build, and you've definitely chosen a good router motor in that Mafell unit. But I would strongly advise you to use the fence when machining with bearing guided cutters...use a straight edge across the fence aperture and set it so that the front of the fence aligns with the bearing...you will get much more support during the cut, and its less likely that the workpiece will fly out of your hand and pull your fingers into the cutter.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
cheers David, I appreciate that, I'm a complete newb when it comes to router tables having avoided them for so long. I will take that on board for future use.
@davidhull16103 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown there are some good safety tips on router tables at Brainfizz routing and making channel - I would post a link, but I have no idea how that works!
@TheToolnut2 жыл бұрын
No need to use the bearing if one is using the fence, just take the bearing off and put it in a safe place. The working life of bearings on router cutters is limited.
@simonlunt3533 жыл бұрын
Looks very nice l have made my router table on it’s own and I used some perpex 15mm thick for my bed works a dream your router lift looks very nice but I do use 1/2” router bits in my table thank you for your video stay safe
@NomadMakes3 жыл бұрын
Man, we haven't seen that push block in a while :D Congrats on some new lewt as well. And thanks for another great video.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Goran!
@paultay233 жыл бұрын
That Keith is a nice setup on the endof your tablesaw... Well played Sauter Shop for providing 3 of my favourite UK KZfaqrs with some quality gear... Guess who I am on about anyone?
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Paul, I reckon I could guess
@paultay233 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown It might be down to your educated guess Keith😉 ...
@jonnybridges5723 жыл бұрын
you may want to consider putting a small chamfer on the bottom of the adjustable fences. This is so if you have any dust build up against the fence it should go in the small chamfer between the bottom and the table and this will ensure your piece you are routing stays perfectly flush with the fence. But nice build
@gfancett3 жыл бұрын
I found a good tip for mounting a router lift. The grub screws won't help level your lift if you are just screwing them into the wood (they eventually sink into the wood over time). I created a sheet metal shim ring to fit between the wood and the grub screws which nicely solves the problem.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, the router lift actually comes with some small round metal shims, which I assumed (without reading the manual) are for that purpose. I fitted them after making the video, and you're right, it certainly helps stop the grub screws from digging in to the wood
@awlthatwoodcrafts89113 жыл бұрын
Well done. And now you'll be wondering why you didn't do it sooner. I added one to my table saw and it totally changed the way I look at how I do things. Before, I was very hesitant to use a router to cut grooves and dados. Previous efforts were never satisfactory. With a router table, and especially one with plenty of surface area on the table saw, it's become my method of choice.
@gedreillyhomestead69263 жыл бұрын
Near £800 worth of free tools, lucky you, I built mine with a cheap aluminium router plate (e-bay) and the brilliant Katsu trim router from Aimtools UK, the rest of the table from scraps - cost - under £50. Does the job. 😎 P.S. am not sponsored by e-bay, Katsu or Aimtools. 😕
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
As I point out in the video, this is a far more premium set up than I expected to have. Originally I was just planning on buying a plunge router with built in height adjustment and mounting it directly to the bottom of the table top. But it'd be mad to turn down such nice equipment
@whittysworkshop9822 жыл бұрын
Mafell make SERIOUS machines...... this will be a good unit that will last a very long time 😁 I enjoyed this lad 🤙
@paulallan81313 жыл бұрын
Great video pal. That looks a special piece of kit, enjoy 👍🏻
@ianvicedomini26483 жыл бұрын
Brilliant build Keith a pretty good dual table there. It’s given me ideas on plans for my table saw as I like the way you worked it out. Great video mate 😉
@thehobbyguy2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant job
@StamosTee3 жыл бұрын
Neat job as always and serious upgrade for the shop 👍. The router lift looks great with descent quality. Really nice piece of equipment!
@ryanwood64953 жыл бұрын
Bravo sir ,well done on a very tidy build.
@jamiesworkshopprojects16173 жыл бұрын
Cracking build Keith!
@jonty20203 жыл бұрын
Great video Keith. That looks like a great router motor there.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. yeah it's a beaut!
@MrJono19993 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, I just need the half decent table saw closely followed by the router table attachment, lol.
@joncroley27443 жыл бұрын
That router is awesome.
@Mitrasmit3 жыл бұрын
Has just made a really fancy router table. Uses a wood drill bit to make a slot.
@laurawerner3 жыл бұрын
Very nice! I love that lever that instantly releases the router's collet for bit changes. I've never seen a router with that feature over here in the US market. On my router table I have to raise the router almost all the way so I can get the collet wrenches in there. One thing you may want to add eventually is a box to enclose the router under the table, so you can attach a vacuum hose to it for dust collection when you're not using the fence. Hopefully that can be done without interfering with the quick release lever. Or maybe you could attach the box using magnets so it's easy to remove the whole thing. Anyway, nice job. I'm sure you'll enjoy having a good router table. It makes some jobs a lot easier.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Laura, yeah it's certainly a nice little party trick / feature. That's actually a great idea about the dust enclosure underneath. I've already used the table more times than I expected I would, and dust does get underneath
@davidroth75863 жыл бұрын
Another nice build keith 👍👍👍
@maxine27983 жыл бұрын
Really interesting video. I must also add that your presenting skills have improved (this is always tricky to say, I’m not saying you were rubbish before! Just better now)
@Thesidingsworkshop3 жыл бұрын
Nice job mate looks great that router lift looks well made 👌
@datafilehunter16823 жыл бұрын
Whenever I have to cut a bolt down, I first thread a nut on. Removing that nut helps clear any burrs on the end of the bolt.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
great tip
@JohnMcGrathManInShed3 жыл бұрын
You have a flaw in the exact same place as me 🤣, If it makes you feel any better I did it in the second table I made as well !!!! Its a quality set up especially with the 8mm bits, so easy to swap between bits.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Cheers John, Andrew at Sautershop pointed me to your video when he recommended the motor and lift - it was really useful for me to see it in action! It's a lovely machine, Cheers
@DebsHill13 жыл бұрын
i have bosch bits and they are fine
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Debbie, I've found them to be ok so far
@MrBez0073 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Made same mistake before with the patern bit. Bit of two part filler might tidy it up.
@emm_arr3 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on having a crack at similar rather soon. The timing is excellent. Hope you and yours are all well.
@PhillipsTravels3 жыл бұрын
Thread some holes under the grub screws and add some bolts so that the grub screws for levelling the router plate push of the head of the bolts. It will stop the router plate sinking over time. Also, 1000w seems very very week for a router table, I get that it was free and although I like the quick release, it seems very expensive for such a low powered motor. With 2, or 2.4kw you'll find you get a lot cleaner results as the spindle isn't being stressed to 90-100% capability every time your routing a dado. If only used for trim with a bearing, a palm router is quicker and easier.
@Wordsnwood3 жыл бұрын
You know, Keith, it's your fault that I'm now watching Gosforth Handyman remodel a house. Nice router table, BTW. NVR switches seem like a good idea.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
I'm loving his renovation series! Cheers
@AndyUK-Corrival3 жыл бұрын
Great build Keith, especially like how you integrated it into the table saw. Looks a very nice bit of kit the motor and lift. Andy UK
@grammybear42263 жыл бұрын
🐼 Big Bear Hugs from a 67 yr old grandma in Kirby, Texas, USA 🐼
@BischBaschBosch3 жыл бұрын
Nice job Kieth. Great lift's and motors aren't they? Like the home-forged fence and feather boards to. Great idea mounting to the table saw fence. With it set up and ready to go, I bet you'll be surprised how often you use it. They're versatile beasties.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, yeah you're quite right I've already used it quite a bit in the past 2 weeks. I think I'm going to wonder how I managed without one for so long! Although routers still scare me!
@smallspacecreation57683 жыл бұрын
Looked really good I like the look of that router set up you got hold of👍
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
cheers Mark
@JohnColgan.3 жыл бұрын
The MDF routing goof is what filler is for & experience will help in future
@stavros_katsopr3 жыл бұрын
Solid... Chapeau mate 🎩, well done.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@Chris-vp9ht3 жыл бұрын
congrats you deserve it. Really like how you did the fence. i can't get over 71DB and the quick change is really sweet. Just went to there web site wow
@1959ticktock3 жыл бұрын
Quite often it is not the motor that makes the majority of the noise on machines, but the spinning blade and the cutting of the wood. Try your table saw with the blade below the table compared to when it is fully up. Huge difference.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
thank you Chris
@glennspray17113 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith , another great video to add to your collection. I do love your honest, down to earth and very informative presenting style. I've been an avid follower of yours since the early days and to see you now have 168K subscribers is amazing !. You have inspired me to build a similar tablesaw add on to my dewalt (but without the Rolls Royce lift !)I've have looked and cannot see a link to the T track you have used for this table. Could you also advise if it is possible to use hex bolts with ithe track also?. Keep up the great work and look forwards to your new video shortly. Best regards Glenn
@toonybrain11 ай бұрын
Sweet router table top. Like the magnetic inserts. Have they worked out or has sawdust become an issue with the magnetism? I like the name “grub screws” rather than set screws. Apropos. I’m going to start using that term. 😁
@awantamta3 жыл бұрын
great project
@karlpopewoodcraft3 жыл бұрын
Nice that Keith, side note I like the thumbnail 😊👌
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
cheers Karl, been trying to up my thumbnail game recently so nice of you to say
@usaf4dbt3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@ShallowPlane3 жыл бұрын
Great job
@oliverdelica22893 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail be screaming, "Mom, I got a new toy!"
@JGCornucopia3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@GrumpysWorkshop43 жыл бұрын
Great job mate, makes my attempt at making a simple benchtop router table look like crap.
@gedreillyhomestead69263 жыл бұрын
Nothing wrong with your table, it works.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Dave, if it works it works! Besides, mine didn't come out perfect due to my silly mistake
@markarmstrong25923 жыл бұрын
Good job
@sarahband48652 жыл бұрын
Lovely video and great to see how much can be done with some slightly lateral thinking and 'bits n pieces. Interesting to see the router table at the end of the fence guides but without any additional support. My impression the Axminster saw and similar, is that when they move one of the side tables to the other side and attach it to the remaining side table they then add support legs (actually part of the kit when Ax supply sliding saw where the two side table are used on the same side). Have you found it necessary, advisable or totally unnecessary to give any additional support to the router table.........either to limit tipping or to protect the fixing of the router table to the cast iron side table........I could see the weight and pressure on the table and the lever arm effect producing either a tilting force on the whole structure (appreciate the saw is quite heavy and stable itself!) or sagging at the joint between saw table and 'kitchen counter'. Many thanks, and keep up the good work.
@RagnBoneBrown2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sarah, I think that having an extension table on the other side too helps with the weight distribution, but the body of the saw is incredibly heavy so I haven't found any problems with the router table needing support as it's very light in comparison 👍
@eric35red Жыл бұрын
Great job. Did you consider any other router lifts as this brand (clearly a quality product) is quite pricey?
@FearsomeWarrior3 жыл бұрын
What’s it like being in the bigger shop now? Do you think the old shop was more limiting now when looking back? I know other opportunities certainly came and helped too. I’ve had fun watching it all.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
it's great, I haven't missed the smaller workshop one bit!
@KSFWG3 жыл бұрын
I'm left wondering why you didn't use your new router table with a temporary fence to make the slots for your fence and feather board? I'm not being mean, I'm just curious is all. I think you did a great job! Thanks for the video!
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Great point, it's probably because I'm not yet in the mindset of having one!
@scott2764 Жыл бұрын
What is the advantage of building the router table into the tablesaw instead of a stand alone table?
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
Very professional setup there mate👍 love how it all came together. Is the weight of the router table on the rails not affecting your saw in anyway?
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Cheers buddy, it's not affected anything, the saw itself weighs a LOT. 👍
@CasualDIY3 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown cool good to know thanks 👍
@l.k.10113 жыл бұрын
No dust extraction from below?
@craigcoe28043 жыл бұрын
It's not a mistake - it's a bespoke air intake 😬👊
@GaryNewtonBrowne2 жыл бұрын
What's your table saw Keith? Have you done a vid on it?
@james-jq8sk3 жыл бұрын
I would have put some epoxy filler in the divit you made on the table, it would drive me mad seeing it constantly! 😅
@jldawson712 жыл бұрын
Hi Kieth recently subscribed to your channel as you cover a host of interesting subjects, I’m looking at starting my own channel covering similar items yourself and a few others are covering. Keep it up very informative and not glossed over, any tips when making videos? Rgds J
@RagnBoneBrown2 жыл бұрын
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@jldawson712 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown Thx Kieth all the best Rgds Jason
@hinchauhan3 жыл бұрын
I'm not envious of your new router table at all! 😂 Lol great build Keith...! PS... Where's the best place to buy birch ply in the UK? I haven't a clue what the going rate is 👍🏽
@derekrobertson15483 жыл бұрын
I asked the same question on another chanel about a month ago and was told the prices vary alot depending on where you go from £70 to £120 for 18mm 8x4 sheet. I still do not know the best place to get it from though. It will be interesting to see what Keith says about price and who sells it.
@ep91monster3 жыл бұрын
Good job Keith, what tablesaw do you use out of interest? I'm personally looking for a new machine with a cast top
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ndxyhKZyrdqpd6M.html
@ep91monster3 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown I've got a brain like a sieve, i remember watching your review of the axminster now🤦🏻♂️🤣. Cheers buddy 😁
@loadsamonkeys3 жыл бұрын
Great job. I'm going to do something similar on a very similar old SIP table saw and am wondering what you took into account when deciding which side of the saw blade to put the router?
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Not really thought about it, I think either side would work fine
@loadsamonkeys3 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown Cheers, that's what I reckoned, just wanted to check if you'd thought of any horrible gotchas!
@beirtipol3 жыл бұрын
Awesome build! What's an MVR switch? ;)
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
haha
@atteljas3 жыл бұрын
"... manuals ... for those who read them" Youre such a renegade!
@alistairstanger29403 жыл бұрын
Nice job. Which chuck collet adapter did you use please?
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Alistair, here's a link to the one I have: www.damencnc.com/en/mafell-collet-chuck-adapter-for-fm-1000-ws/a3510
@5phutsangtao-iQ3 жыл бұрын
👍💖💁💝
@DrunkenKnight713 жыл бұрын
Why did you want the face to be slightly below the table top? Won't material catch when you pass it through?
@BischBaschBosch3 жыл бұрын
The plate comes with levelling grub screws. You slightly overcut the cut away to adjust for perfectly flush.
@KSFWG3 жыл бұрын
He shimmed the fence with a piece of paper so it would sit slightly above the table.
@jeremyspecce3 жыл бұрын
@@KSFWG he was referring to the router plate, but that IS a good idea to avoid it influencing the fence as well as giving a place for dust to get pushed out of the way.
@DrunkenKnight713 жыл бұрын
@@BischBaschBosch Ah I see, thanks
@PabloBD3 жыл бұрын
Is that german router the fanciest tool in your workshop? Looks sturdy and sleek
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
I think it probably is!
@Mike-jx2uj3 жыл бұрын
Which video was the one about ITS discount code?
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
RAGNBONE
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grFliqagstCVl40.html
@benni-m3 жыл бұрын
... for those who read them, funny :-D
@matthewbowen03 жыл бұрын
"Don't try this unless you have experience"...but if I don't have experience how do I
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
It's a stupid technique for lazy people, just drill a hole big enough for the jigsaw blade
@jeffdeluca11533 жыл бұрын
I always love to see personal protection worn... lungs are worth protecting... BUT... what about your eyes? Not my business but I do enjoy your videos!
@rasmo2433 жыл бұрын
Far to many adverts gave up watching
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Apologies - it was set to KZfaq's default - and sometimes I forget to go in and change it - usually I delete 2 or 3 of the ad breaks manually every week. I've adjusted it now.
@wsurfa3 жыл бұрын
Something with Mafel on it for under £900 - bargain ;)
@darrendavies80633 жыл бұрын
It's a shame Keith. Started watching your channel when your were walking up and down back alleys looking for scrap wood. Something i could relate too. Sorry to say the majority of your videos are now nothing more than sponsored adverts for whichever tool manufacturer who decides to send you free stuff. Fair play. You have done well. But not for me anymore. All the best in the future.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
I have to ask, what purpose does a comment like this serve? Are you basically saying that you'd prefer it if I didn't progress in life, and that you'd like me to basically keep making the same content every week? Or are you wanting me to feel guilty for what I have achieved with my channel (through much hard work I might add)? There are so many excellent woodworking channels catering for everyone at all levels of their woodworking journeys, many of which I have promoted on my channel - you really don't need to announce to me that you're no longer interested in what I do - I understand, and it goes without saying.
@mickwilson1273 жыл бұрын
Too many bloody adverts, gave up watching.
@RagnBoneBrown3 жыл бұрын
Apologies - it was set to KZfaq's default - and I don't always remember to go in and change it - usually I delete 2 or 3 of the ad breaks manually every week. I've adjusted it now