I made Skyline Diffusors for my Living Room

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4 жыл бұрын

Want some of those neat looking diffusors for your room? Seeing the price of them, I think it's needless to say that a DIY solution is more viable if you're like me and enjoy working with wood.
Overall, I paid about 300€ for all the materials. When you buy ready made skyline diffusors out of wood, you'll pay about 170€ for one, and I made 8 of those. You do the math.
This of course requires you to have access to the power tools in the first place. You can do all of that by hand, but it will take even more time.
It was a really fun project and I hope you enjoyed it as well!
Let me know if you need something.
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@bernhardotto9201 4 жыл бұрын

First of all: Great work, your diffusers are looking amasing!!! That the Clapping doesnt make a difference is OK because you have Diffusers and not Absorbers. Onely one thing : To have the most benefit from your Diffusers you schould bring the Sofa a little bit of the wall and lower the Diffusers because you ears are the point where the sound has to be diffused an they are sill straight at the naked wall.Also your surround sound would benefit from the didderent sfa position.

@ClyeRandom 3 жыл бұрын

"As you can see it did absolutely nothing". This cracked me up. Great charisma!

@antiHUMANDesigns Жыл бұрын

First of all, because of the depth of that diffuser, and the size of each well, it'll only diffuse frequencies between about 700hz and 4000hz. That aside, I'm sure it did lots of things, it's just that what you're hearing are the problems from all of the other walls. The diffuser is also placed above your listening position, so you won't get the most out of it. I understand that you might not be able to fit it directly behind your head, so consider moving it to the ceiling where you have early reflections, for example, or directly above your head (in the ceiling). I'm not sure what you thought the diffusor would do. It does not prevent reverberation, it basically makes the room sound larger than it is, and breaks apart standing waves so that the sound is _better_ . You'll notice this is you sweep a sine wave in the room. Some frequencies (many) will be heavily boosted by the room as they produce standing waves between the walls. But the diffuser will help to prevent this within the effective frequency range of that diffuser. So, I'm sure this did a lot of good for your sound. Just that a clap does not tell the story. (I'm an audio engineer, btw.)

@agentsmakem424 3 жыл бұрын

I was so relieved when agreed with me at the end 😂

@dreci3001 2 жыл бұрын

What you've made are 2d diffusors, which propagate sound both horizontally and vertically. There's a reason such diffusors are mounted usually on ceilings (skyline) so they can diffuse both horizontally and vertically from above, which turns into 90 deg offset of diffusion (left and right, front and back). When mounting such diffusors on a vertical wall you get reflections from the ceiling and floor. For vertical surfaces use slot or slat diffosors which are 1d (large panels with vertical slots in them). Those diffuse only in one plane (left and right or up and down, depending on orientation). I did the same as you did and then measured with a microphone and was not happy, since I created a sharp dip and a sharp peak between 1200Hz and 2800Hz. They look nice as decoration on the wall, but when I changed them with 1d diffusors the room opened quite a bit for sound. Nice vid, it's very time consuming to make those out of wood.

@ranna. Жыл бұрын

nice info

@jonlindsey8877 4 жыл бұрын

Great Job! Whether or not it works acoustically, it is a fantastic piece of sculpture and looks great!

@skygazer6898 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! That is impressive and i am lovin it. Lovely dog, too.

@bogd4novic1 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was going to make. Thanks for sharing your project.

@MickolaustheWonder 3 жыл бұрын

Great video dude. My favorite part, "If you have children or a monkey..." Hilarious!

@ssskids123 3 жыл бұрын

Such countersinking! Joking aside great project and walkthrough... thank you.

@mynamemylastname1835 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for you honesty and it does look cool .

@normanwink 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks as well ;)

@baneparkour 3 жыл бұрын

Love the video and seeing the whole process. Congrats on the build. thanks

@nigelrobinson57 3 жыл бұрын

This is so good. And so German :-) Love the fact that your workshop is the balcony of a high rise apartment.

@normanwink 3 жыл бұрын

You use what you have ;)

@royjenkins9549 3 жыл бұрын

@@normanwink And he's got that high Rise. This man is a Champ. Norm keep it up baller.

@faisal-al-saari 3 жыл бұрын

very important experience .. I was planning to do it for my studio .. but it looks very nice as a decoration .. thanks a lot

@garethroberts9223 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely love these! Well done!!!

@rayflores3511 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. Will help me for sure with my build. Thank you.

@georgeschnipper 4 жыл бұрын

Hiii Norman! Glad to see you back on youtube!

@normanwink 4 жыл бұрын

I'm happy too! Also really glad to know that you're still around as well :D

@BaronButter 3 жыл бұрын

One Word , IMPRESSIV

@Jason-rk4xc 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks so much. I have the same problem as you and was considering the same wood diffuser solution. Thanks for your honesty in how it didn’t provide the audio solution, you have saved me time and effort in building. It does still look really cool but I am looking for something to help with the sound. You’re a star.

@zwerver6136 4 жыл бұрын

this looks awesome!

@mildlyinterestinggameplays3956 3 жыл бұрын

Your neighbours probably love you after a whole afternoon of cutting wood on your balcony ;)

@normanwink 3 жыл бұрын

At least I'm not that guy with the hammer drill ;) We live in a huge apartment complex with over 200 apartments... it rarely passes a weekend without someone making some construction noise

@sebulbathx 3 жыл бұрын

@@normanwink Haha yeah people with hammer drill is the worst :D I wouldn't mind if someone was cutting wood on their balcony as long as my balcony don't get all dusty and it's not in the middle of the night. The noise for me is the least problem there has to hell of a noise for me to react. Are people that sensitive to noise? Also I think, as a home theatre enthusiast, if you hear someone making noise, playing loud music etc. I feel it's almost my right to also play loud when I listen. So it's give and take or eye for an eye. For me it's that simple.

@mildlyinterestinggameplays3956 3 жыл бұрын

@@normanwink no worries. when I was still living in a bigger apartment complex I would regularly bbq and party on my balcony. Obviously my neighbours hated that ;)

@MrCanadianGoof 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet, I'd love to make something like this! Thank you!

@MyEvolutionFX 3 жыл бұрын

This man has patience :D Great Work!!!

@AndreasSippus 3 жыл бұрын

I might just try this one out at my new place. Love the content you make.

@markcaruso815 3 жыл бұрын

Good job this is more realistic for my budget.

@woodworkingengineering2415 3 жыл бұрын

😂 Nice video, and amazing sense of humor 😊 But the wall panel is looking awesome 😊

@nick3795 3 жыл бұрын

very good, looks superb nice video, well done

@charliewilson3234 3 жыл бұрын

Lots of work, good stuff. Thank You.

@mustardofdoom 3 жыл бұрын

Your dog is so helpful!

@deniz5158 3 жыл бұрын

Looks really good! You could also cut 1/2cm blocks if you have any left over & cover the screws - may look neater without visible screws :)

@themillennialentrepreneurh2511 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure how i got here but i am glad I found your content! Great video!

@shermanlab9477 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful workmanship and pleasant aesthetic result. Congratulations, I'll start following you, thanks for sharing. SL

@Rangana87 3 жыл бұрын

Superb creation

@chrishaslam1730 3 жыл бұрын

Good job, looks awesome,

@396chevelless 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, it looks like NY city. Great job man!

@axelleaxl.5315 3 жыл бұрын

My girl advice: It will me the hell for clean up the dust on it ! haha !! (Sorry for my poor english, I'm frenchspeaker) It looks awesome anyway ! I like it !

@normanwink 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah that's super much work, true! But it's alright :D

@fran90XD 3 жыл бұрын

love the accent, and the diffusor looks awesome!

@kyfisher3662 4 жыл бұрын

looks awesome and was worth it just for how good it looks, few things from what ive read on this, it would help if it was the height of your head while seated and the height of the speakers (altho as you said in the video you could hit your head on it) and de-fusion dosnt work well in rooms smaller than 4x4m and absorption is a better option in small room sizes. my rooms about the same size and im tempted to make one just because i like the look haha

@CrowkeeperStudios 3 жыл бұрын

You should make another video where you make acoustic panels. Those will absolutely change the sound of the room and you could make them look quite beautiful while you're at it. Would make for some good content as well. Cheers.

3 жыл бұрын

I just like the video cuz the amount of work it took

@quniversalpicts 3 жыл бұрын

actually this coupled with some absorbers for the higher clap frequencies and some bass traps should make for great acoustics and yeah you should put them at least near the height of your listening position and get the couch further from the wall , but i guess in the german highrise apartments space is tight. greetings from munich

@GodOfGodless 3 жыл бұрын

Danke für die Idee 🤘🏻

@randynovick7972 3 жыл бұрын

Assuming similar mic placement, I believe that I did notice a slight difference in echo or reverberation, but mostly when you were speaking. Honestly, I think the effect is helpful even if it is not as dramatic as assumed, much like the effect of having more soft home furnishings like cushions and drapery. The contribution one gets from projects like this is subtle but also significant. You may notice it more when playing music or having a dinner party, for example, but not so much when alone and performing single hand-claps.

@royjenkins9549 3 жыл бұрын

7:41 Norman, I gotchu. Take an empty spray bottle, mix 1:1 water and house hold beach (8-6% sodium hypoclorite). And a drop of laundry detergent. Spray it on the black streaks on your balcony wall let it sit for 10-15 min and rinse it off. The streaks will disappear. If there not fully gone re apply or use less water in your mix. You're welcome - Roy.

@royjenkins9549 3 жыл бұрын

You're doing a great job enjoying and creating neat things keep learning new things with every project. 👋 Great job Norm.

@skylermccoy8214 3 жыл бұрын

Really cool! Remember, diffusers don’t make it sound dead-they just make it sound better. It’s artwork regardless of the acoustics. I’m interested to see what else you do with the space

@jasonsavory9748 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly, it does even sound smoother to my ears as the diffuser only scatters the clap more randomly - so less fluttering

@CyberBeep_kenshi 2 жыл бұрын

Quick question, is it useful to place them behind the speakers, i see that often.

@bathynomusgiganteus2916 Жыл бұрын

@@CyberBeep_kenshi Only if they have a dipole radiation pattern. You should use absorbers behind most speakers.

@CyberBeep_kenshi Жыл бұрын

@@bathynomusgiganteus2916 cheers, i find the whole subject so complex. I am far from stupid and had math, physics etc education, but acoustics feel like i missed an entire 4 year study.

@bathynomusgiganteus2916 Жыл бұрын

@@CyberBeep_kenshi You don't need to know all the maths and engineering to learn the best practices thankfully. Ethan Winer's video on diffusion is still one of the best kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rMhjY6Z6qK2aaJc.html This video is helpful as well kzfaq.info/get/bejne/prp_mbud3a3Yip8.html

@CyberBeep_kenshi 2 жыл бұрын

I have a thick cotton wall carpet with a printed photo behind the listening position, it reduced the clap echo for 90%. So all good. The diffuser looks awesome though

@lost_minds 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice! Even if i think just one row looked way better

@AnujPatel31 3 жыл бұрын

Comparing your voice at the 0:54 second mark vs the end, I'd say it worked. The reverb is completely gone.

@blayworld 3 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the same thing. Different* reverb!

@marcrestorations492 3 жыл бұрын

Diffusers aren't suppose to remove reverb. They only reflect the sound in different directions to make it sound more natural. You'd need an absorber for that like a foam pad. It sounds better because instead of the sounds reflecting of the same spot on the wall, it's being pushed all around the room in different ways.

@ReeWebster 3 жыл бұрын

Heard the same, was almost a bit surprised to hear no different in the clap, until I thought about it.

@GuareschiGuillermo 2 жыл бұрын

good job! it actually did something; the fluttery echo is gone, the claps sounds more natural and nicer

@aleclouisgrant 3 жыл бұрын

Good choice not going with the walnut stain. It looks like you've got a mix of scandinavian and midcentury designs in your place - teak was a popular wood of choice in midcentury designs and could offer a really lovely warmth to contrast with the cool grays and neutrals in your space. I wouldn't recommend making something like this with genuine solid teak outright because it'd be prohibitively expensive but a danish teak style stain could be nice for future projects. Looking forward to seeing more.

@normanwink 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Will have a look at that ;) I'm not so much into interior design and more do everything by intuition... but knowing the name of my intuition will be helpful for further design inspiration!

@AlanW 3 жыл бұрын

The flat panels you didn't know the name of is called OSB here in north America. Stands for Oriented Strand Board. I hope this helps! Looks great!

@simviki 3 жыл бұрын

It's called OSB in Europe too. :)

@DonMenico92 3 жыл бұрын

We say OSB in Germany too.

@yujinnya 3 жыл бұрын

And in Russia those are OSB boards. Workers of the World, unite! ^_^

@felila8487 2 жыл бұрын

The neighbours probably love you when you cut with that saw half a day on the balcony :-D

@RickMunday 3 жыл бұрын

LOVE this!

@fleshtonegolem 3 жыл бұрын

Diffusers disperse reflections, they don't diminish them. Your flutter echos are gone. It did exactly what it was supposed to do.

@BLEKSIDE 3 жыл бұрын

i love how you can instantly recognize a german accent even though its almost unnoticable

@TheXaminedLife 2 жыл бұрын

Nice job. Well done. Very attractivde. I'd suggest sorting the pieces into boxes for each size and using a pencil and ruler to transfer the pattern onto the backing then gluing the pieces onto its appropriate space on the backing. The backing by the away is called oriented strand board.

@normanwink 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea! Thanks!

@cruzefx3652 3 жыл бұрын

That plain floor reflects a lot of sound, put a rug in there and you will notice the difference right away

@ericgiova1663 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful ! Unpractical ? Who cares, its amazing ! Nice job.

@mydayis5 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of making one, but wow that was a lot of work!! Looks really great though.

@AquaFreak 3 жыл бұрын

I loved that you were onnest

@draztiqmeshaz6226 3 жыл бұрын

the sheet material is called oriented strand board.. OSB

@jack00scarecrow 3 жыл бұрын

this is the mitre saw, it mitres and saws... love it 👍

@edgarrq 3 жыл бұрын

Muy buen video te quedó bastante bien, se ve mucho trabajo pero igual es entretenido creó lo intentare.

@dannyharris6951 2 жыл бұрын

Defusers are normally used to scatter standing bass frequencies. If you want to ubsorb hog freq sound, build some diy rockwool panels

@minorityreport2125 2 жыл бұрын

Nice workmanship. Clapping mid-frequency is 2500 Hz. Skyline 3D QD diffuses in X and Y dimensions so you are losing energy vertically. Your walls are exposed elsewhere so the diffuser does work but in relative terms, to the rest, you may not notice.

@holgerplotzitza Жыл бұрын

The Problem for Sound is, you clap your Hands below the Diffuser, so it Reflexion hits the wall below the Diffusor.

@ELIAS-pk5sw 3 жыл бұрын

such a great video. definitely subscribing for more!

@normanwink 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Means a lot

@imsgoalie1 3 жыл бұрын

I admire that this guy doesn't care about having to clean sawdust out of his sofa; damn it he's going to do some woodworking! Great project! Also, one thought is that you could subtract 5cm off of the length of all of those pieces and just remove the 5cm pieces altogether. This would reduce the weight, wood used, how far it projects off the wall... and also could allow for maybe something creative where there are no wood blocks at all, revealing whatever was done with the substrate beneath.

@soundblankie 3 жыл бұрын

Great info thanks!

@mowburnt 3 жыл бұрын

The reverb at start vs end is very different IMHO. Looks great :-)

@damon123jones 3 жыл бұрын

good job

@stefdibbs4820 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video. Nice build. Too funny, I can sit here without killing myself. This did absolutely nothing.

@gprn3 3 жыл бұрын

Cool!

@Nick-eo2ol 2 жыл бұрын

My guy did you sand all that shit with nothing but your bare hands and sandpaper? Respect

@jfour4 2 жыл бұрын

I love it

@alex2204veles 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video :)

@bawsome98 3 жыл бұрын

you can definitely hear a difference when you talk on camera, before the diffusers your voice sounded more boomy and you could hear the reflections on the lower frequencies

@alfs3 3 жыл бұрын

das ist super!

@andrewcomtois6542 4 жыл бұрын

Good work man

@normanwink 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you! :)

@Nonsense62365 2 жыл бұрын

OSB - oriented strand board. Very heavy a lot heavier than plywood. I would use 3/4” Plywood or 3/4” MDF

@dennisgu2506 2 жыл бұрын

Mega geworden, könnte ich glatt nachbauen

@luismendoza6983 3 жыл бұрын

What turntable do you have? Currently looking for my first and there’s a lot to pick from.

@ZzzzAGROBERLINzzzZ 3 жыл бұрын

hey nice work! greetings from a fellow stuttgarter =D

@_benk 3 жыл бұрын

When I first read the title of the video I thought you were making an actual city skyline out of wood and using it to dampen the sound (which would be cool but a lot of work), cool video still

@ApexLaneProductions 3 жыл бұрын

Diffusion and absorption are different! Also the fundamental frequency of a clapping sound doesn't fall within the scope of what those diffusers can cover.

@Redshoes531 3 жыл бұрын

Great effort tho.. And it looks cool!

@razetw 3 жыл бұрын

What wall mounts are you using for the longboards?

@mlamulibongonakho2206 2 жыл бұрын

I doubt that in our country South Africa , they can allow you to have those machinery in your balcony lol , I'm really impressed I wish we also has that much freedom here

@The.Home.Cinema.Engineer 2 жыл бұрын

very cool! im going to be making those for my theater here soon! how much did each one end up weighing?

@filippochesuona Жыл бұрын

I want a friend like you.

@gerritgeldenhuys2763 3 жыл бұрын

Should be good to stop the bass from amplifying when you sit close to the wall. I have this problem. Sadly since I'm renting I cannot do any sound treatment.

@luizscheuer670 3 жыл бұрын

Did you test your speakers after you installed them? Did you notice any difference?

@booradley3146 3 жыл бұрын

Did you add to it? I think you need a bass trap and maybe some absorption panels from what I am reading. And how much it did cost in total to do?

@casperthomsen5450 2 жыл бұрын

This looks beautyful man. Thank you for taking the time to record the whole process and for the time estimations.. do you say time estimations?! Anyway, I want to build one too. Looks really good :-) and YOU got a LOOOOT of patience!

@petethegreekre 3 жыл бұрын

Great job, that was a lot of work and dust. I can't get around the fact that it doesn't work though. Better to have run a frequency sweep and check for differences. The hand clap sounds quite high in the frequency range. Absorption combined with this fantastic piece would help quite a bit. I also have read that there is a minimum distance from your seating position to follow. Complicated stuff, I know but when you get it right, magic happens. Any system will sounds it's best.

@normanwink 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the advice, but I always feel like a real world example is way more important then results on a data sheet... I mean what’s the point knowing there is a difference when you can’t notice it anyway :D

@petethegreekre 3 жыл бұрын

@@normanwink I didn't clarify it enough. I meant a frequency response sweep by ear, and record it like you did with the mic, now it's too late since you have it on the wall. No equipment involved. Anyway at least it looks great. Treatment has always worked for my set ups in Bars, Cafes etc. But it is complicated.

@sawyerramos3113 2 ай бұрын

how do I figure out the frequency of my room?

@max.racing 2 жыл бұрын

Nice but would it be better to make it with sharp ends?

@LeechTM 4 жыл бұрын

Holy f*ck. So much work. But the Video itself was really good, all the small nucks and grannys, the different angles and timelapses. Could not stop watching. Looking forward to seeing you both in real life again.

@normanwink 4 жыл бұрын

Higgens probably also misses the high life in the office :D