“I make $450,000 on YouTube. My husband is ashamed he can’t match my success”

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Ramit Sethi of I Will Teach You To Be Rich talks to Darby and Kirsty, 27 and 25, who are professional KZfaqrs. While Kirsty’s art tutorial channel explodes in profitability, Darby’s efforts lag behind in viewership and earnings, creating a stark contrast in their money dynamic. He feels he doesn’t deserve comfort. She waits for her success to vanish.
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Can’t-miss moments:
00:00:00 - 1: Opening
00:02:12 - 2: Why can’t they take a weekend away?
00:05:36 - 3: The peculiar financial “rules” Darby has set for himself
00:10:16 - 4: How Kirsty is making $35,000+ per month - at age 24!
00:13:19 - 5: Darby doesn’t want to be a house husband all his life
00:24:40 - 6: Ramit calls out the elephant in the room
00:29:43 - 7: Wait, he won’t go to the spa… but he’s ok with a Tesla?
00:35:42 - 8: The danger of not seeing their finances as a team
00:40:19 - 9: Kirsty admits she’s scared of money
00:45:13 - 10: The cost of being indecisive
00:50:55 - 11: Role Play: How would another couple handle this?
00:59:17 - 12: Ramit breaks down their numbers
01:05:40 - 13: Will his KZfaq channel work out? Darby makes a plan
01:17:29 - 14: The key lesson of this conversation
01:18:41 - 15: Where are they now? Darby & Kirsty’s follow-ups
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@ramitsethi Жыл бұрын

0:00 Please remember: These are real people who had the courage to come on my podcast and ask for help. Would you be willing to come on this podcast and share every detail of your financial life? Feel free to leave comments based on what you think, but remember that we are here to help in a supportive way, not to demean and criticize.

@Indy4Cookie Жыл бұрын

hey ramit and team, there’s spam replies on all the comments here. might be worth looking at the filtering for comments.

@PreciousKofi Жыл бұрын

Hi Ramit, I enjoy how you hold a compassionate space for everyone you speak with. And yes I’d be open to sharing about my finances.

@johneng8060 8 ай бұрын

Stop cussing please.

@WolvesinFrance 6 ай бұрын

Does anyone have the link to Kirstys youtube channel as I woukd like to subscribe?

@AskWelmoed 5 ай бұрын

@@WolvesinFrancefound it I think: Kristy Partridge Art

@lorihaya2021 Жыл бұрын

After 45 years of marriage and paying for all the bills … I didn’t realize how much love, respect, and family love my husband brought to the table until he suddenly passed. I knew he brought more to the marriage than me struggling to support us but I wish I thanked him more for all the joy he brought us. We all miss him so much.

@sharndawg007 11 ай бұрын

He’s actually punishing her because he’s jealous! Saying that HE doesn’t deserve to go but she does, but then he knows she won’t go alone, so she misses out! I think her anxiety about losing the money is tied in with her husband’s anxiety AND he is also blocking their communication about money. She is so sweet and patient!

@vali4034 9 ай бұрын

I think she should hire the help she needs with the money she has and even support him on his path to success instead of using him to give her the support she needs to attain her success. If they both attained success they would be a power couple. Instead he’s withering in her shadow.

@lowlowseesee 2 ай бұрын

eh maybe. their communication is a bit too advanced for me to believe he is punishing her intentionally at least. I'm in the field of DV which includes punishments that are not violent and often times financially driven. he doesn't seem to have the entitlement necessary to be an abuser. that said these abusers hide themselves well so I cant give the 100 percent co-sign lol

@mandasusan Жыл бұрын

As a stay at home mom, this makes me sad. My value in the home raising our children is extremely valued by myself and my husband. We share our successes. Neither one of us would be able to succeed without the other. ❤

@Gitambrianna Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@chanellynel Жыл бұрын

@joanarc7963no she should have married a ma with more so that she doesn't grow resentful for making herself small to accommodate his insecurities

@DiamondsandRust 11 ай бұрын

I felt the same when my lovely husband suddenly passed. I believes he hears me say it now.

@sugahoney89 9 ай бұрын

@@sparingharbor2600 we are not in an equal world and never will be. Let me know when a man can give birth.

@IQLion 6 ай бұрын

My mom went through something similar and it does not necessarily have anything to do with gender roles. It's the question of self worth. Sure, this is an issue of how society makes us feel about working, raising kids, running a business, etc. However, I truly believe this goes well beyond gender norms. As kids, we get allowance for helping with the chores or doing well in school. However, that quickly changes once we become adults. We realize that there is little to no value in doing the dishes, moving the lawn, or any household tasks. Raising kids becomes one of those chores that every parent does. I'm not saying that it's right, just pointing out that the society pressures us that we must be able to do all of that, while also prove our worth by bringing in an income. I'm sure Darby is not saying this because he's petty about his wife, but because he feels that what he does is simply not enough to prove himself. He needs something that he can show for. This is exacerbated by the fact that his wife is a high income earner, which makes him feel like what he is worth is not even a fraction of what Kirsty is worth. I see a couple ways for them to proceed, especially since they are both KZfaqrs. One way is for Darby to embrace his Wife's job and become a part of what she does (perhaps by taking a job behind the scenes that would have measurable effect on what she does). The other way, is to take a few hours a week to work on a passion project of his. It can be an Etsy store, a hobby, or even a part-time job he enjoys. Logically, this would probably make very little money, or may even lose money, but in my opinion, self-worth is a part of rich life and for some people having a measurable amount of success is just as enjoable as going to a Spa or a nice restaurant. It's the sense of pride in what you do and it's something that's difficult to replace.

@amandaolson7159 Жыл бұрын

I was so inspired by Kirsty's success in this episode and immediately pushed myself to finally get my product shop launched yesterday. It's been in progress, but yesterday I pushed through to get it live.

@inarapatton1749 Жыл бұрын

Wishing you much success! So proud of you!!

@chellybaby Жыл бұрын

that's amazing!!! best of luck to youuu

@factorfitness3713 11 ай бұрын

Being live is better than any plan!

@tpeopleway 10 ай бұрын

Amazing Amanda!

@supkirsten 5 ай бұрын

Yayyyy great job!

@barbaratozzano6364 Жыл бұрын

Darby needs to consider how he would feel if their rolls were reversed. If he were earning $450,000 + a year and his wife were raising the kids and supporting him, would he feel like she didn't deserve the spa trip?

@jaydencparker4968 Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same. I understand his overall goals and totally empathize there. But if roles were reversed I bet he’d see things differently when it comes to the spa trip or those types of things.

@icawn 10 ай бұрын

He did around 26:15

@skatertrader Ай бұрын

No because men and women play different roles and are neurologically wired differently

@DmitriPisarev Ай бұрын

I guess that depends on how you were raised. I provide for the family and my wife looks after the kids, but I cannot imagine having the roles reversed. I'm happy for the people who are ready for it, but I can't just re-wire myself based on some current agenda.

@fibbs6533 Жыл бұрын

One of the best things he could do would be learning to manage their money and investments. That would be a big contribution to their partnership.

@sometimeslifehandsyouapple1085 10 ай бұрын

This. Investment and management alone of the amount of money they are bringing in could be a full time job and any money made from investments is essentially what he would contribute and it could be alot if he was good at it

@supkirsten 5 ай бұрын

I had that same thought…

@lizziesheehan7236 Жыл бұрын

I love how Kirsty and Darby interacted and how non-defensive they were. They truly want to learn how to move forward. I admire them both.

@yasminogbu8929 Жыл бұрын

Yer true ! Very impressive. When two people want the relationship it’s makes it 10 times easier

@IAmebAdger 3 ай бұрын

@joanarc7963 You are right that he does feel insecure and has a burning desire to add value, not necessarily as a man (I didn't get the sense that he's trapped by traditional gender roles as he's pretty stoked about his wife's success), but as an individual.

@vivianw2596 Жыл бұрын

Kirsty’s KZfaq channel is successful because it aligns with her skills and passion. Darby’s KZfaq channel is for self help, and yet, it’s clear from this interview that he isn’t living it himself. 😢 Does he have a niche interest? Start there. It needs to be authentic. Not everyone is cut out for KZfaq. There’s nothing wrong with getting a “regular job” and working your way up like most people do. I think the fact that Kirsty experienced monumental success with KZfaq has actually created unrealistic expectations in him. The reality is that she is successful because she is talented, works hard and consistently puts out content. 🤷🏻‍♀️ Taking care of kids is hard - and harder if you wished you were doing something else. Hire a nanny a few times a week, and put the time into therapy, seeing a life coach, and putting a plan into action.

@kingstonstreet3726 Жыл бұрын

What’s name of her channel her husband name?

@MarshaMinus100 Жыл бұрын

@@kingstonstreet3726 @KirstyPartridgeArt

@raphaelfa9737 Жыл бұрын

So well said!! 💜

@angelapate328 Жыл бұрын

What is his channel?

@annieemanniee Жыл бұрын

Facts upon facts upon facts.. if he doesn't do some internal work. They're heading for a very very unhealthy relationship

@karenh.192 Жыл бұрын

“Until you see your finances as a team, you will forever be drifting apart 1 degree at a time.” This spoke to me … a recovering ambitious wife that worked through vacations because I found my identity in how much I made. My husband made me see how fragile our marriage was and how far we had drifted apart because of my ambition. I am still finding that balance between ambition and contentment, but in a far better place in our marriage. ❤

@natashadickson4819 Жыл бұрын

Best wishes ❤️

@LuxuryCoastalLivingFL Жыл бұрын

Yes!!!

@jademartin59 Жыл бұрын

This is the most amazing comment I’ve seen about this particular topic so far. Thank You.

@TheKayleeanna 8 ай бұрын

It's not your "ambition" love... It was your work-life BALANCE that drifted you apart. If you don't follow through on your ambitions you'll grow to resent him. So make sure you figure out how to stay ambitious but work smart & balanced. 🤗

@Elizabeth58886 Жыл бұрын

I love that Kirsty and Darby naturally spoke directly to each other throughout this video. Not once did Ramit have to prompt them to address each other directly, as he does with so many other couples. This couple was so sweet together - so refreshing. 😊 Thank you, Darby and Kirsty for doing this call!

@jasminepaigegreen Жыл бұрын

Whew this was so hard to watch. I hope he realizes soon that’s he’s holding her back & stunting the growth they both could be experiencing.

@IAmebAdger 3 ай бұрын

Watch to the end, he realises.

@ldrum2116 Жыл бұрын

If my wife had an income like that I would gladly support her in anyway I could, because we are a team no matter who is the bread winner.

@sirrus3009 Жыл бұрын

The thing is women dont see it the way men see it

@Alexchii Жыл бұрын

@@sirrus3009All women are exactly alike, right?

@sirrus3009 Жыл бұрын

@@Alexchii most women

@sugahoney89 10 ай бұрын

@@startingtech3900 no. If I made that much, as long as he supported me, sure. But he would need to make his own money and pay for our dates. This guy earns zero money! He needs to earn his own keep...especially if I am to have his kids and be the breadwinner. That's too much on any woman's load.

@keorata3313 9 ай бұрын

@@startingtech3900It's just that ALL men start to feel insecure when the woman makes more, and they start causing problems in the relationship.

@LedgerAndLace Жыл бұрын

I think Darby discounts his contribution because he's measuring it in monetary terms. He said, "Everyone does that" when talking about taking care of their children. NO THEY DON'T. Advice columns and therapist's offices are full of fathers who resent "babysitting" their own children or doing anything to maintain and run a household. Also, rest and relaxation are necessities for our health and well-being. In our Western "hustle" culture, we have been conditioned to think that rest has to be earned in order for us to deserve it. Unless we're "successful" we need to keep working until we're worthy. You're already worthy and deserving.

@artisticagi Жыл бұрын

Yes, and learned incompetence. They pretend they don’t know how to clean or do laundry. So that makes women do more of the housework, even if she makes more. There’s a study out there somewhere

@gaurinawathe6856 Жыл бұрын

So true. And the amount of mental load that he's taking off her shoulders! That's extremely precious too.

@ecclairmayo4153 Жыл бұрын

They dont believe all this unpaid LABOR is work.

@tarat26 Жыл бұрын

Bless him. It's incredibly hard, tiring and exhausting bringing up one child under 3, never mind two kids. I am a 'stay at home mum' with a little one. When you look into how much childcare costs per week /year it's a lot of money financially and you're not teaching them your values or spending that quality time with them which is priceless. My partner often mentions that he's the only one earning, so I tell him to either stay at home and look after our son and look after the jobs etc or pay for childcare which costs x amount. I remind him that's how much theoretically I am earning, without me doing this, he wouldn't be able to do whatever he wants whenever he wants or go to work. She could offer to pay for childcare for a bit to give him time to do his own work etc. She didn't need to add the term "sole" provider.

@johnesposito4197 Жыл бұрын

I tried to respond to your comment, but you pretty much said it all. They are a strong couple and with lots of love and understanding. I listened to this first in the car and just wanted to see them in action, so I’m now watching it. What I wondered, is why doesn’t he consider just helping her more with in her work? He put too much pressure on himself.

@JohnDoe-jq1br Жыл бұрын

John Lennon quote: "When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down 'happy'. They told me I didn't understand the assignment, and I told them they didn't understand life." 🙂

@supkirsten 5 ай бұрын

I love John Lennon. A tragic loss to the world the day he was taken from us…

@lowlowseesee 2 ай бұрын

John Lennon quote from Playboy "It is a diary form of writing. All that 'I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved' was me. I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically... any woman. I was a hitter. I couldn't express myself and I hit. I fought men and I hit women. That is why I am always on about peace, you see. It is the most violent people who go for love and peace. Everything's the opposite. But I sincerely believe in love and peace. I am a violent man who has learned not to be violent and regrets his violence. I will have to be a lot older before I can face in public how I treated women as a youngster."

@mjf5049 Жыл бұрын

Darby seems to crave respect and doesn’t feel like he garners it without making his own money. Two books: Boundaries (to cut out the people who wouldn’t respect him) and ego is the enemy (stoicism helps release bothersome ideals).

@vg1024 4 ай бұрын

Worst advice I've read so far. Stoicism dude? For a househusband?

@lowlowseesee 2 ай бұрын

@@vg1024 lol

@1_ATA Жыл бұрын

He doesn’t value domestic work. He’s jealous of his wife which is why he’s not able to see that they are a team. KZfaq probably isn’t even his passion, he just wants to prove to himself that if his wife could do it, then he can do it too.

@gerardo9052 Жыл бұрын

Maybe if she always share the money he would not be resentful

@JustAGrl007 Жыл бұрын

12 minutes in…sounds about right! He needs to find his passion.

@Amda33 Жыл бұрын

I can’t stand this husband. He just can’t seem to appreciate and be happy + grateful for the wife’s success and contribution to their family. He is always potraying himself like a victim

@dieudonneenooitmeer4653 10 ай бұрын

@gerardo9052 he still would, because his issues is that he doesn't feel accomplished.

@mizzmolly7649 10 ай бұрын

That's why you see a lot of couples divorce after the wife has become popular and has gained wealth off KZfaq.

@lindseyjanies1791 11 ай бұрын

Throughout 90% of watching this episode: I feel so very sorry for Kirsty. She's absolutely got some serious patience. A saint of a wife. She is HONESTLY the only one seeing and fighting for their marriage. But then at the end: SO MUCH PROGRESS!! Wow. Incredible. I'm so very happy for them. Going from "OMG when will this episode end?" to "DAMN that was a massive shift I didn't think was going to be possible so quickly." Amazing job, Ramit!!

@AqueshaDru Жыл бұрын

Darby has absolutely NO IDEA what he wants in life! Absolutely no idea! It is beyond painful to watch your partner sink into depression because he has not found his purpose in life. She has found her calling in art and she has turned it into her livelihood. He has not. He will ultimately sink this relationship if he doesn't learn to value what he has. He only wants a KZfaq channel because she has one. He has no idea of the metrics / how many views he needs to get the $1000 he claims he'll be happy making per month. Smh He's subconsciously jealous of her success and is depriving her of celebrating that success as a COUPLE. Darby needs some serious therapy. He's incredibly insecure because he isn't earning and he has no idea what his "thing" is. They need to start putting some money aside in a trust fund for the kids, start paying each other a salary, get a financial advisor, set out a clear plan for investing and their rich life. Otherwise, Kirsty needs to start putting money aside for a divorce because Darby's unfulfillment, invisible scripts and poor money mindset will sink the whole ship if he doesn't shift his mindset. Smh.

@tessy28 Жыл бұрын

100%

@t.f.6297 Жыл бұрын

This 👆 this 💯

@mytravls Жыл бұрын

Is a divorcing unemployed spouse entitled of the funds from a retirement account?

@sarasjegersart 10 ай бұрын

You are talking to a real person. I think this is a mean comment.

@suzanneemerson2625 7 ай бұрын

Wow! Nasty comment!!! Sorry for you.

@ruthreddick8369 8 ай бұрын

I loved their connection, and the level of respect and kindness they showed to each other! This was a tough conversation for both of them to share! Well done!

@artisticagi Жыл бұрын

They are such a great couple. No bitterness, anger, impatience or contempt. Just understanding and a mutual goal to reach a resolution. They are so brave to put themselves out there and be judged by the whole world potentially. (Well here I go) I think the husband might also need to examine his feelings of worthiness, he might have a core belief that is blocking him from being able to progress with KZfaq or anything else. In addition to all of the great advise shared here also. If I made more than my husband tho I’d rather have one like him than the type who is comfortable spending all the money and doesn’t feel the need to contribute. I would find two things to do (spa and car) and work towards feeling ok doing them. Or have him pay for part of it, even if it’s just a small part.

@kylemacdougall8355 Жыл бұрын

Why is that when a woman feels insecure or ashamed (about her body, for instance), we blame society for sending messages that tell her she's not enough...but when a man feels insecure or ashamed, we say it's his own fault? As if men don't also experience societal pressures telling them they're worthless unless they have X, Y, and Z.

@jelemil Жыл бұрын

Of course its societal conditioning. But its 2 prople in the relationship and up to them as indivifuals to resolve the issue. Just as if a womans constant insecurity was wearing away at the marriage.

@jelemil Жыл бұрын

If you feel that insecure men are less suppourted in society which i would agree is true. Its up to men to create environments which suppourt men in facing their vulnerabilities and healing that part of themselves. Women can encourage men but if they dont feel they have the respect of other men its often fruitless.

@kylemacdougall8355 Жыл бұрын

I agree that it's the couple's responsibility to manage or resolve an issue that's causing relationship troubles. (Responsibility and fault are two different things. If I was molested as a child, that wasn't my fault, but my recovery and what I do with the rest of my life is still my responsibility. No one can take that responsibility in my stead.) But I also think the likelihood of successfully dealing with those relationship problems is much greater if the insecure partner isn't being blamed for having feelings that they probably don't have much control over. That's why it matters where we place the blame and how much of it we decide to give out.

@Flare6 Жыл бұрын

I understand Darby’s desire to feel accomplished. However , the most valuable things in life aren’t “earned”. Hopefully Darby will grow to understand this.

@Flare6 Жыл бұрын

I’m glad that they discussed goal setting and milestones for Darby’s KZfaq channel. Hopefully, he can lean into what Kirsty suggests, as she has the evidence of success that reflect that she knows a thing or to about being successful on the platform.

@Flare6 Жыл бұрын

I too can grow to be more decisive. I got a lot out of this episode. Glad I tuned in!

@samuisun6684 8 ай бұрын

Exactly, its weird that people ignore his natural masculine tendencies....its so odd...@joanarc7963

@RachelLondon 6 ай бұрын

Respect is earned. Trust is earned. Loyalty is earned. A degree is earned. Pretty valuable to me.

@monkeyloven 10 ай бұрын

NEVER feel bad about being with your kids and raising them. They matter THE MOST.

@IMBLESSED-oe6dl Ай бұрын

May be its a cultural thing

@mamalovesthebeach437 Жыл бұрын

How I thought BEFORE I listened to the end.Darby would happily take a new Tesla because he says it’s “for the kids, for his wife, it’s practical, it’s useful”. I don’t buy it. My sense is that he’s not that excited about going to a spa. He has no problem eating at a Michelin star restaurant. Darby needs to get 100% honest with himself. They should be seeing a good couples counselor to break through his resistance. The way they intend AFTER listening all the way to the end: WOW!! Fabulous coaching AND Darby’s turn around and they agreement/plan is fabulous! 👏🏻I can’t wait to hear how they are doing in 6 months!

@hitherefriends3943 Жыл бұрын

So many men struggle with seeing their partner as competition instead of a teammate when the woman is more financially successful. I empathize with them both. It is hard when you feel like a failure and have someone to compare yourself with in your own home. It’s also hard to succeed and not have your partner feel happy about your success. Hopefully Darby can feel professionally satisfied in the future in his own right, even if the incomes never quite equalize.

@artisticagi Жыл бұрын

We don’t value traditionally feminine work like child rearing and housekeeping

@hitherefriends3943 Жыл бұрын

@@artisticagi true! He is making a huge contribution to the household already. Everything he does is equally important to what she does. He shouldn’t feel like a failure, but I understand why he may feel that way since he and his wife are in the same field.

@ecclairmayo4153 Жыл бұрын

This is why I think people need to place a dollar figure on unpaid labor. Literally count up how much is saved in childcare, meal plan company or chef, housekeeper, landscaper, bookkeeper, handyman etc. All of these things people get PAID for it. If people think of it this way and possibly wrote it down or even "pay" themselves, they wont feel like their contributions don't match the other persons.

@yasminogbu8929 Жыл бұрын

Agreed! I personally think it’s a maturity issue. Personal development. Being able not the compare and see your own journey is different. I’ve learnt personally to not talk about my success with my boyfriends. As it’s brought so much insecurity. But in whole I don’t think older men struggle with this as much as this grow through it.

@Vexed711 Жыл бұрын

@@yasminogbu8929 older men want more traditional relationships so it may be even worse

@hamzazafar Жыл бұрын

At 35:35 - the guy acknowledges that it's her money, and not theirs even though they're married. The girl didn't say no it's OUR money because we're married and I think the guy feels that and that's where the everything frustrating about finances stem from

@NVgen Жыл бұрын

Yes, and I think it is common to feel this way in relationships where there is a wide income gap; the person making less money feels insecure about their ability to provide for themselves, and potentially, uncomfortable about asking their partner to spend money on them. I'm sure gender roles and societal expectations play a role for him as well.

@Stealth17Gaming Жыл бұрын

This episode hit home for me and I quite figure out why. I live off of my KZfaq channel and generate enough revenue from it to live quite comfortably. Still, it somehow doesn't feel "like a real job" and like Kirsty I'm wondering when it will all go south and crumble. I get comments almost daily that people really look forward to my next video (I post daily) and that it's a stable point in their sometimes erratic life. And yet, I can't quite silence that "get a real job with a real income" voice.

@ericac5807 Жыл бұрын

I just followed you. She makes enough to be able to allow him to focus on his stuff but if she didn’t make the money he would have to get a job so maybe he needs to consider it so he can feel good about his contribution. He should also consider therapy.

@natashadickson4819 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on having a successful channel. Many people lost their "real" jobs during the recent tech sector layoffs but you are self employed. 🙂

@Stealth17Gaming Жыл бұрын

@@natashadickson4819 Thank you. Appreciate it :)

@scholaroftheworldalternatehist Жыл бұрын

Just pick up a flexible job as well if you are worried. That way you have something to fall back on and something to put on resume as well.

@Stealth17Gaming Жыл бұрын

@@scholaroftheworldalternatehist I can't do that

@patsym3679 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Darby and Kirsty for being vulnerable and allowing us to see ourselves in you both! So many lessons to learn from this show! Great show! Rooting for you both....

@Lynnys1 9 ай бұрын

The Tesla that he wants is okay but the spa that she wants to go to is not. Why do they have to live by HIS rules? He’s a child and needs to grow up or she will eventually leave him. Ultimately he just seems like a posh boy who had an easy life and now it’s all about him. Me, me, me. She seems lovely.

@brandonwilson5727 Жыл бұрын

Bring it on! If my wife made 450,000$ I’d totally be a stay at home dad 😂

@yasminogbu8929 Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@milhouse7145 Жыл бұрын

My brothers wife is a doctor so he stays home to take care of their 1 and 3 year old. Never been so proud of him, such a great dad.

@fearless6868 Жыл бұрын

That a crazy things to say out loud let along leave a shameless publication like that. A man duty is to go out there and conquer the world. Also a woman is not design to provide for a man long terme I repeat long terme I ain't talking about few month when things may be complicated on your side am saying long term wise. No way any woman would be ok with it. She will lose respect for you and once the respect is gone her love his to bcs a girl has to respect you first in oder to love you. I cannot believe any real man is ok with stay home dad. Is this real life? No wonder why man aren't men anymore. He's gotta figure a way to make more money instead of complaining to his girl she would lose more attraction everytime he does. Men are too soft nowadays unbelievable .

@brandonwilson5727 Жыл бұрын

@@fearless6868 You sound sexist. A women can be a stay at home mom but a guy can’t stay home? If both people are okay with it and they work as a team what’s the problem?

@fearless6868 Жыл бұрын

@@brandonwilson5727 First of all the world we live in is built on sexism that is why we have two standards man and female in sports, military, benefits...etc. It also a reason why the phrase being a gentleman is a thing. So if you don't acknowledge that first and you wanna blindly live a bs equality things when you are still expected to protect and provide for your woman regardless of her income then you are lost. Let's recap, since there's differences btw both gender it simply means their roles are different. Am not saying don't take care of your child(aka your own blood) Am just saying understand your role as a man you're subject to provide and protect that your first mission.

@rebecca7410 Жыл бұрын

Great interview. I hear their West Country accents (being from there also as a UK West Country girl- so lovely to hear/see)! If Darby had videos about the life of a stay at home dad and everything that involved I think that would be very interesting. As a couple, they do encapsulate a modern set up/gender role reversal that was never the norm but is perhaps becoming more common. I find that fascinating. I would definitely watch videos that reflect this dynamic and his experiences as a father and husband in this world! Even more so if Darby has some life hacks to share that he's acquired. I hope they are able to adjust to their new life as they are clearly such lovely people and deserve much happiness

@vivivavavoom_ Жыл бұрын

This!!!

@tyrymanuel 4 ай бұрын

He could be the Dude Dad of the UK!!!

@vgmijpn8ball Жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great episode. My favorite part was when you told him you saw parts of your younger self in him (me too). I was amazed how you identified how they spend a lot of time talking/thinking with no action, and how well they responded. Also loved how you used gratitude in your example of how he might think of visiting a spa. It was very interesting how he puts limits on his own happiness and the power of his invisible scripts. Married to an amazing woman, two healthy kids, plenty of money, a nice house, an 80k car coming... he should be dancing in the streets!

@TunisiaAli Жыл бұрын

Its so unfortunate that we define our value as humans and our ability to contribute in terms of $$$. Darby doesn't realize he is being somewhat selfish though. He is denying his wife the excitement of celebrating her accomplishments and hiding behind his story. If he was really concerned about his masculinity and role as a provider, he would get a job AND still pursue KZfaq. Im this way everyone could feel fulfilled. If he wants to feel like a provider, then provide. What is his answer-- to wait 10 years for his YT Channel to take off while he loses his wife???

@katie8325 Жыл бұрын

Feel sorry for Kirsty that she can’t reap the benefits of her success because of an envious man. He needs to start working a job outside the home if it bothers him that much.

@maryyu4010 10 ай бұрын

Loved hearing how Darby took in your advice on setting the more short term goals for himself and that they both saw that they are a team in all this and set their financial plan accordingly! They are so young and off to a great start in their lives and career!

@methenybestfan Жыл бұрын

This was such a powerful episode and a great couple. I am so impressed by their patience and communication This is a couple with a growth mindset and not just financial growth A lot of people are criticizing Darby, but he is ydidn't I initially didn't appreciate how Ramit discounts this feeling or the scarcity mindset he was operating under but he really changed Darby's ways of seeing things when he made them role play at 00:50:55 All to say, bravo to this couple for how they handle this. And it was great to hear the follow-up at the end

@GMizza Жыл бұрын

What a lovely couple. I get where he's coming from, but you've already won brother. I didn't think couples like this still existed in this day and age.

@thatgearguy 11 ай бұрын

If his YT channel isnt working, why not pivot? Make a channel about being a house husband whose wife is a big earner? That would be niche (which you need to be these days) and you have endless content because you are living it. You could discuss your feelings on the channel which viewers love and give tips and tricks on household running from a male perspective. The household space is heavily populated by female youtubers so you would have good traction there. In the meantime understand that running the house and being an at home Dad is a very tough job which allows your wife to focus on earning. You are both working hard to achieve the money so you should both feel fine about sharing/spending it. Lovely couple. Wishing you the best of luck.

@lowlowseesee 2 ай бұрын

pride. as soon as i typed that he said 'im a very proud person'. me personally i have never uttered the phrase because im healthy and im proud of myself enough to not have to proclaim it lol

@christopher5855 Жыл бұрын

4 min into the vid and was already thinking that they need therapy or at least he does. The fact that one partner makes so much more money opens up opportunities for the couple.

@historypolitics108 Жыл бұрын

Darby said something about wanting to make even 50 grand per year within the next 5 to 10 years. If he spent 5 to 10 years focusing on the business with his wife he could surely help increase that $450k annually into much more than another $50k.

@lizetteemlynrosalez2383 Жыл бұрын

This was so good! Thank you!

@greenwallscapes 5 ай бұрын

I am yelling at the screen - HELP HER!! She's got something that works and you have children. Help her with the kids so that she can keep growing. Research how to make $50K off the money that she has and find an investment tools that you guys can make more money off the cash she has (she mentioned that in passing!). It's a FAMILY business - support her!!!! Some times you will be the star, sometimes she will be. That is how marriage works for a long time. You guys have the benefits of time. Help her build her money so that you guys can crush it for a long time and go to all the spas you want!!! My husband and I have 3 businesses (we used to have 4 and sold one). There were times when he was doing better and there are times when I do better, but the most important thing is to think of yourself as a unit and that your contribution is also making sure the house runs and everyone is fed to be able to create. Your time will come!

@kathyj3459 Жыл бұрын

It feels like Darby is punishing his partner for her success, because of his own insecurities. It’s unfair and seems passive aggressive.

@ladonwilliams1333 Жыл бұрын

Wow, this was so awkward. It may be a blessing that she is the higher earner rather than the roles potentially being reversed. Doesn’t sound like he places a lot of value on the 24/7 role of being a parent and managing a household…in addition to all the stipulations he places on the level enjoyment/relaxation allowed for the person in this position. I hope he finds some peace and gratitude for the fact he has a partner that doesn’t berate him for his success level, yet simply wants to share theirs.

@brandfactorymedia Жыл бұрын

He’s definitely punishing her and it’s going to drive her crazy if he doesn’t get his emotions together. She needs to hire him or something.

@gerardo9052 Жыл бұрын

@@brandfactorymedia do they have children?

@genniepoon2189 Жыл бұрын

Totally agree and so many excuses thrown in to diverge from the real problem

@brandfactorymedia Жыл бұрын

@@gerardo9052 Yes

@splatoon_octo 10 ай бұрын

It'd be interesting to see the script flipped. If Darby was making $450k and his wife was home not earning but doing loads of work, and he wanted to bring them to a nice spa, would he say, "wait, you can't come because you didn't earn it"? I don't think so (and if he did, it'd be horrifying). Just shows how self-talk is often toxic and breaks down when examined under close scrutiny. Darby was exhausting to listen to. I'm convinced this guy is wasting some of the best years of his relationship because he is so committed to an inadequate definition of success.

@brandfactorymedia Жыл бұрын

Did he just say he’ll try the KZfaq for another 10 years? He is out of his mind. 😂😂😂😂 Act like your wife makes zero!!!

@cliffordl.4022 11 ай бұрын

I loved this episode. I think it is admirable that Darby wants to contribute more. Most people in their twenties struggle to find a way to self-fulfillment and financial security. Don't give up on yourself Darby. KZfaq is just one way to make money. Kirsty's success is giving you the freedom to find your footing. All the best to both of you!

@123meyca 4 ай бұрын

Yes this part! Now he can figure out what he enjoys and loves and NOT stress about the financial aspect. They have it, he needs to find what he loves. For me its finance and accounting ❤️🙏 currently binge watching these videos while doing college work. Graduate of 2024🎉

@wyattsage4582 Жыл бұрын

Really loving these interviews! It’s both eye opening and reassuring to see others having the same worries and obstacles that I run into while trying to live my rich life

@mikes4733 Жыл бұрын

This was a great episode, and a coaching masterclass from Ramit. Satisfyingly conclusion and it would be interesting to hear how they are doing in 1-2 years.

@natasham2799 Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed listening to this conversation. This couple is incredibly eloquent and able to articulate their thoughts well. For Ramit - I'd love to see more 'international' conversations (aka not US), would be lovely to get different perspectives! Selfishly asking this as a fellow Brit. Thanks!

@aprilstiek7430 Жыл бұрын

Is he punishing himself for not “succeeding” on a platform which is based on validation by other people? I feel like people reject the needy energy of that dynamic. I think he should set small successes in doing something he loves to do instead of only loving success. As well as changing the mindset that he can only love himself and reward himself if he reaches a self imposed level of success. Instead maybe he could reward himself with loving self talk for working hard and feel fulfilled by doing things he feels passionate about regardless of the attention he receives from the public. He’s very lucky to have that luxury of time and freedom from having to support the household. Great couple! Wish them all the best.

@adeneo.g6456 Жыл бұрын

Your a woman right 🤔

@lolitanolita9107 Жыл бұрын

The restaurant or the car makes him happy, the spa would have made her happy. Maybe he should be more sensitive to her needs, also. It's hard also because society manipulates the way we view things.

@aprilstiek7430 Жыл бұрын

I love this couple so much. Their hearts and level of communication are inspirational. ❤

@catherinel6288 Жыл бұрын

Really loved this episode! As a Scot, it was great to see a UK-based episode :) They seem like such a lovely couple and have great communication skills. I understand where they are both coming from but hope they resolve their issues so they can enjoy the success they've earned! I hope in a year's time they will be at the spa :)

@YaseenKhaliiq Жыл бұрын

This goes deeper than money. The guys wants his own money so he doesn't feel dependent on his partner. This goes back centuries. If he doesnt make it they will get divorced the resentment will eat him up.

@peach_tea6198 Жыл бұрын

Only if he doesn't get past himself and see that he is a great place. He actually can take some time to find out what he is good at and start building himself while at the same time having the support of his wife who seems very much about their home and relationship. In this day and age she is a keeper. Again, its about if he decides to grow or not. He's still young.

@YaseenKhaliiq Жыл бұрын

@@peach_tea6198 yeah he is in a great place but sometimes that can take away the hunger. When that hunger dies it hard to get it back especially when you are comfortable. His wife had smashed he needs to find his own thing. Good luck to them both challenging times ahead . !

@raniramchandani Жыл бұрын

This was such a solid interview! 😊

@mariaisabelmedina7149 Жыл бұрын

This may be my favourite so far 👏🏼 i love this couple and Ramit’s private investigator’s questions are spot on 😅

@aymenmiloudi1938 Жыл бұрын

21:16 I haven’t finished the whole video yet and I stopped right when he said I haven’t achieved anything, 80% are going to be jealous of how tight of a relationship you have, 20% will hate you for it, you got a golden one, botches will leave the minute they start making 100k, you got all the wealth in the world of you have a woman. That truly loves you and gives you 2 kids and won’t change you for a billion

@cammiosis Жыл бұрын

Botches watching this can see males don’t actually partner with women ! Botches can see once you’re financially stable it bothers males! You have gentle advice for this asshat but calling women with security botches! You’re pathetic

@icawn 10 ай бұрын

So true. When the woman achieves an independent income, her true feelings about the relationship are tested. The income itself isn't the reason, but the income will reveal any bad feelings she she may be harboring about their relationship. I learned this the hard way in divorce. This woman could leave easy, but she isn't. She is an absolute keeper.

@cammiosis 10 ай бұрын

@@icawn “she’s a keeper” suggest you feel women are disposable.. do you really think someone wants to be with you without an incentive? You should know they don’t because you’re divorced!!

@jessitabonita Жыл бұрын

The elephant in the room is… GENDER ROLES. He obviously feels emasculated by not being the breadwinner.

@kingdomfirst4541 15 күн бұрын

@jessitabonita if he cannot handle the gender role disparity then time to exit. However he could look to the positives and allow them both to thrive together and teach their children how you build wealth as a family!!

@chippope8984 Жыл бұрын

You ask great questions one should ask if oneself but don’t. Excellent!

@user-hm1od2bj4g Жыл бұрын

Very thought provoking & inspiring. Be decisive & intentional. Thank you 😊🎉

@VaninaConV Жыл бұрын

This episode has been very inspiring to me, Ramit. I've been planning to create my KZfaq channel for more than a year and I recently decided to do it. With your advises on how to face it I feel much more confident. I also loved watching this couple talk to each other in a such respectful and honest way. I wish them the best! I live in Europe and I often wonder how your money distribution schema would be here. Please let us know (Europeans following you) when you open a program for us ;)

@cartierbutler8518 10 ай бұрын

As men we want to provide for our family. It is a innate ability and will never go away. I can understand and appreciate how Darby feels. He wants his own and wants to create a name and life for himself to share with his wife and his family. Ramit is spot on what he is asking. Changing his thought process is a must i can understand because I am currently changing mine and my view point.

@namandajames Жыл бұрын

Another great episode! I thought it was really interesting that Darby is sticking with KZfaq as a means to earn money. I was hoping he would discuss why that was the ONLY track in his mind. I am sure he could get the 50K that he described as his benchmark through other means with the same skillset. I can also appreciate that many of us think this way in our 20s. I surpassed many of my goals I set for myself but the path that got me here was not the path I thought it would be. I am grateful for that. I hope Darby will be open to that as well

@bridgeoverwaters Жыл бұрын

1:15:20 I honestly think that the guy isn’t too sure of what he wants to do. The comparison is what’s also killing his confidence.

@miyawam 7 ай бұрын

Why doesn’t he get a real job if he feels so insecure. It’s nearly impossible to become a super successful KZfaqr.

@MoementumFinance Жыл бұрын

Another great episode Ramit! Your ability to ask insightful questions and coach your guests as they discuss their money challenges is remarkable. 🙂 As a KZfaqr, I could very well relate to this episode. Good advice for Darby to set some concrete goals for his channel.

@MesseJesse2 Жыл бұрын

he either needs to get over his pride or get a different job because they are headed toward imminent divorce and i wonder if they know how serious that is

@yagushka 10 ай бұрын

Love your channel. During 15 years of working as a banking adviser I’ve seen these scenarios but never had a chance to approach them from the angle of emotions but I find it fascinating ❤️

@Adman-p4j Жыл бұрын

Her success is his success. They work together. I would never let pride to get in the way of my enjoyment of life and my partners success. I'm sure he supports her in MANY ways.

@Mr_NB628 Жыл бұрын

He could probably start a travel, Vlog channel and just Vlog the trips that him and his wife go on, and then get sponsors

@yasminogbu8929 Жыл бұрын

I love the great questions you ask! True emotional intelligence. I personally think if KZfaq isn’t working after 5 years* I think find something else. I know people who have kept moving industry's until they found the industry that opened up to them, it flowed. I personally think he is comparing himself to her. Unconsciously. Where everyone’s journey is different avoiding comparison is really important. I’ve been in relationships where competitiveness comes in. It’s horrible because you feel you can share your success with the person you love. ( I wish you would go on fresh & fit / red pill shows)

@paulaooook Жыл бұрын

Videos about being a stay at home dad is brilliant as someone else mentioned.

@Martina_Vintage_Motorcycles 11 ай бұрын

Hands Down one of the best videos on KZfaq! Love all you guys ! Darby and Kirsten are such a great couple. Cant wait for another update down the road road

@jotheskier6462 Жыл бұрын

Ramit's question at 14:28 was spot on! love this interview

@vulpixelful Жыл бұрын

Darby, like most men, need to see the value they bring besides money. Running a household with kids is providing and very valuable. If it wasn't, people wouldn't pay for babysitters, chefs, housecleaners, mechanics, lawn care specialists, plumbers, etc. My heart broke a little when he said he wouldn't respect himself if he didn't make 100k by 35. Most _people_ won't have that much in a bank account. I'm sure to his wife and kids, him being around and helping to make their lives fantastic engenders feelings of respect and love ❤ He has the world right now, I really hope he comes to appreciate that.

@adeneo.g6456 Жыл бұрын

Men can't live the way his living. Its a damage to his manhood and masculinity. Thats why he is struggling now and can't seem to accept the situation. All this therapy and talking doesn't do anything but delay the inevitable. Which is a divorce. She will soon realize that she has outgrown him, regardless of his stay at home dad role. The only solution he has is to dedicate his off time to a KZfaq channel. Build a online store for a side buisness and get a concrete trade job outside of the house. Electrician, Powerlines men etc. Invest in diversified portfolio/ Mutual Fund and watch his money grow and create cash flow from real-estate within 5-10 years. He will feel fulfilled by keeping busy with all those projects. I would even recommend he start writing a book about his experience and target economic themes of our society with expectation. There's his purpose 🙏

@alc6370 3 ай бұрын

@@adeneo.g6456Men can’t or they simply don’t want to?

@iwantcheesypuffs Жыл бұрын

Money is maybe 20% of the success of a marriage. Maybe 10%. Maybe less. You can both be living under a bridge and still have mad love for each other and happy. I've personally seen it. So many different ways to contribute to a family and a partnership.

@DerDudelino Жыл бұрын

If you love each other, just enjoy the success and money together. Money really makes life easier - like we for example have someone cleaning the house every week, so none of us has to do that - that's a big luxury I can recommend to anyone. Because the whole "I clean, you don't" argument creates a lot of friction in a relationship. What money ultimate is it takes away all the stress from your life. Don't feel like cooking - go to a restaurant or order great foot to your home. You can enjoy your beautiful garden and it's totally fine when someone else takes care of the roses.

@ivyclarke2643 Жыл бұрын

This is my favorite episode so far. I love how Ramiro spends time understanding the couple’s POV before he provides Darby with some short-term goals to make a decision about the potential of the KZfaq business he’s been working on. He gave him a great way to assess moving forward or moving on to something else asap.

@ivyclarke2643 Жыл бұрын

*Ramit (autocorrect error, sorry)

@PerfectionHangover Жыл бұрын

I absolutely love this couple! I can see why Darby would feel the way he feels, but I believe they can support each other and elevate to the next level. Darby obviously just hasn't found his niche that will take off yet on KZfaq - however, it took Darby 5 years or so before her channel really took off, and the majority of her income is course sales. Find your niche, Darby! Hire an au pair or nanny to watch the kids, and get down to business!

@GingerConcierge Жыл бұрын

Fascinating how Ramit manages to take universal personal financial advice and make it so personal. A wonderful couple who are taking the right steps and I have no doubt that they will have lots of success (both monetary and non-monetary!). Thanks for this wonderful episode!

@TerryCollinsP31Lifestyle Жыл бұрын

I feel like they really are a team. Her success is because she has piece of mind knowing their children are taken care of a loved. Without his support, she can’t do that.

@aangitano 5 ай бұрын

Exactly! I don’t understand why some people can’t understand that?

@FIREownyourtime 10 ай бұрын

They need to think that they are a team. He doesn't need more money. Its not his or her money. Together they are a team. He can help improve her channel. He can learn to manage their finances, learn more ways to diversify their income either through stocks or real estate. Don compete with your spouse, be one unit and move towards a goal together.

@SarahStar00 Жыл бұрын

I think it’s natural for a man in a marriage to feel responsible in some way financially for the family. I think it’s wonderful he has goals of success on KZfaq and I know he will get there! I was also glad they went over a plan for being successful and a timeline for that and looking at doing something else in case that’s needed. Really good episode. At the same time, I wish he would let his rules go and embrace being a unit and enjoying the income they have.

@thegeordiesaver Жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this episode, as a UK viewer it was great to hear guests from the UK 👍

@MortgagesByBryan Жыл бұрын

This is great to watch for everyone trying to build an online business, especially on KZfaq! I've only started my youtube about 7 months ago and I can understand how Darby feels. I'm learning to look at the bigger picture

@superxicanatravel 10 ай бұрын

Just checked out your channel & was very impressed by your content so I subscribed! Wishing you the best of luck!

@BryanSumardi 10 ай бұрын

@@superxicanatravel thank you so much!

@antoniobrasse7157 Жыл бұрын

This was great stuff. I appreciate both of them for openly talking about this as well as you covering this. We all have relationships to money we need to work on.

@KayJsWorld Жыл бұрын

New subbie here! Loving this podcast…keep ‘em coming!

@JC-dq8un Жыл бұрын

The man has values, pride and honor “as a man” .. I don’t think we should fault him for that. Too many men are opposite to him and it’s for the worst

@cornellcornell1 Жыл бұрын

Right. Wonderful values ruining his relationship.

@kamillekemp3171 Жыл бұрын

@Joan Arc Talk about toxic masculinity.

@StorytellingHeadshots 8 ай бұрын

Yes. I follow Kirsty’s channel and she gives exceptional value. She’s very good at what she does. Both the art and the instruction and her presence is very calming and lovely. I’m sorry that he feels competitive with her. He should just be proud of her and also realize that a confluence of events (the pandemic, starting the channel 8 years ago, etc) the you tube landscape is very different for people starting now. He really needs to find his own thing. Competing in the same field is a losing battle.

@zigga96 8 ай бұрын

What is her channel called?

@IntuitiveFortune Жыл бұрын

Great video! ❤thank you!

@TheHappySensitive Жыл бұрын

Someone with 10 million dollars "scrounging in a garbage can to find blueberries" 🤣. To me the best comedians are funny because they are legit worked up about something. Am loving those moments when Ramit gets really worked up and turns into a comedian. It's been a full 3 minutes and I'm still laughing. It could probably be turned into a motivational poster of sorts too, as in "don't be this guy": with a guy in an Armani suit, popping out of a dumpster, holding a blueberry up to the light like it's a diamond...

@maryyu4010 10 ай бұрын

Darby has a weird all or nothing approach to life. I hope he sees how much he is contributing to their marriage and overall family success by supporting Kirstie and taking the primary role in these current years in raising the kids. If his outlook doesn’t shift, I fear for their long term happiness…

@featherpayne 7 ай бұрын

If i made 450k a year i would so tell my husband to retire and go fishing lol. That is more than we make together in 6 years working full-time.

@PineappleHannah Жыл бұрын

As an Irish person, it felt great to listen to a non-American based couple!

@moisemayali 9 ай бұрын

What I learned from this episod, is that desire something is one thing but articulate exactly what we want is a another thing.

@trinawms3749 Жыл бұрын

This was a really good one

@AnitaPuksic Жыл бұрын

Respect to Kristy and Darby for their willingness to share about their financial life. Darby is an amazing provider, even Kristy is the main earner. He takes care of kids, supports Kristy and is working on his own ambitions. Hats off to Kristy for all the success at this young age and being an example, that you can get rich fast and not lose yourself. She is also clearly amazing as a partner, she seems very in her feminine energy and it is obvious she respects him and all that he provides as her partner and father to their kids. And their communication is also very good, they are trying to solve a problem together, and not accuse each other. Also respect to Ramit, for being excellent in role of a coach and consultant. Watching this was for me a coaching, consulting and therapy all in one. He even delivers tough love, without shaming anyone. That's the type of person I want to learn from. Subscribed.

@jackiehenry5799 Жыл бұрын

Darby definitely hard troubles facing the deadlines/milestones being set. In a way setting a deadline/milestones is like setting yourself up for potential failure. You either succeed on the milestone or you don't. Its scary, and I can understand why he would prefer to not commit to any deadlines/metrics because it's safe. It means he can keep trying on his own timeline, and not have to face completely changing his career goals. I would suggest one thing to Darby, put a line in the sand on the last go at becoming a KZfaqr. Put everything you got into, and if it doesn't work, find a new approach or career. During change, its uncomfortable. However, after change, you get to setting into a new life you worked for and sometimes that life is actually enjoyable. You end up being grateful for putting yourself in a position of change. For example, I was miserable in my previous part-time role. I had made it a goal to get a full time job there, but after 6 months I had no deadline of when I will become full-time. I couldn't let go of the commitment to myself because that meant I failed. However, it took me admitting to the failure of my current role and deciding 'hey it's okay, not every door is unlocked. Lets try the next one'. I went to DevCons, met a company that looked promising, and made the jump into a completely new line of work. The beginning part of course was scary, but damn I am so grateful that I did it. Forgive yourself for failing on a goal, and push on the next one. Keep going.

@vivivavavoom_ Жыл бұрын

Good point

@topseekrit Жыл бұрын

The moment he said “I want what Kirsty has,” I knew it would be a mess. Hope he finds his own career and let’s go of the stay at home husband stigma. Nothing wrong with that when you have an amazing family.

@samuisun6684 8 ай бұрын

He~s a man.

@Opo-D 7 ай бұрын

He’s very level headed and vulnerable. I hope he finds fulfillment too. I don’t think he’s jealous though, just unfulfilled as a man with deep rooted traditional gender roles. What I admire about him is that he’s not taking that un-fulfillment out n his wife, but rather on himself. Although that in turn hurts his wife still, sadly.