I (Mostly) Loved Marvel's Midnight Suns

I (Mostly) Loved Marvel's Midnight Suns - A Critique

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An in-depth look at Marvel's Midnight Suns, a tactics deckbuilding game that deserves more love.
A big thanks to the fandom page, they had quality PNGs of all the cards!
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0:00:00 Intro
0:01:18 XCOM Comparisons
0:10:49 First Impressions and Overview
0:15:30 The Tactics Gameplay Part 1
0:21:18 This game exists and I love it
0:25:40 RPG Levelup Stuff and Currencies
0:30:24 Ratio of Playtime/Lifesim and Dialogue
0:53:22 Abbey Exploration
0:55:40 Light/Dark Alignment System
1:05:45 Music/Sound Design
1:11:21 Small Issues and Annoyances
1:19:47 Combat Part 2/Hero's Decks
1:56:35 DLC
2:12:30 Story
2:20:28 Conclusion
#marvel #marvelgames

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@Dorkaxe Ай бұрын

I probably could have said more on Deadpool, such as his passive trait and gimmick clashing so hard it boggles the mind, plus his En Fuego stacks not being very generous, refusing to carry over any extra kills into the next stack...but oh well. Hope you liked the video, it took forever to make, and I'm very happy it's finally published. Dorkaxe discord link: discord.gg/rnmSP9FQQg Support me on patreon: www.patreon.com/dorkaxe Follow me on twitter for updates on the channel: twitter.com/darkaxe54

@Tempelers 18 күн бұрын

The reason Tony Stark loves the Unauthorized Autobiography because he has a magazine write it for publicity reasons in Captain Marvel (2019) #1/2. It's a really good comic.

@Dorkaxe 18 күн бұрын

THAT'S AMAZING. Dude thanks for that tidbit, that's such a cool attention to detail.

@Nigel222 Ай бұрын

I got this game day 1 and wasn't really expecting to like it that much because of the cards but I ended up playing it for about 100 hours. I loved it. Shame it failed as a sequel focused on the X-men could have been cool.

@Dorkaxe Ай бұрын

An X-Men/Guardians game would be the best for me, oh man. So sad 😢

@chrisartis9585 Ай бұрын

God an x men game styled like this would be so damn fun

@cornellcarterjr6287 24 күн бұрын

Ngl I liked majority of the dialogue mainly because I love marvel

@OminousToast Ай бұрын

Was actually rewatching your old videos this morning, great timing

@MEDDlNO Ай бұрын

A DORKAXE VIDEO LETS GO

@keanuxu5435 19 күн бұрын

Midnight Suns is XCOM Lite, and I’m fine with that

@TummyRubz Ай бұрын

I was surprised about your summation of Magik. In my playthroughs she was a one-man army, that card adding damage to her portals stacks infinitely and when she is the last one remaining you start to see it every turn, her portals make it so in the early game she is great at multiple removals of weenie characters, then late game is an absolute monster. I was one shotting bosses after stacking her portal damage all fight. Closest character to broken in the game for me, but you do need to pay close attention to her card bonuses you add on to get her to go infinite.

@Dorkaxe Ай бұрын

Oh wow I just got two comments about the same Magik being OP limbo grasp thing. Yeah I didn't realize it stacked, wow.

@TummyRubz Ай бұрын

@@Dorkaxe She only gets really good late game though, many of her cards like the portal damage stack can be modified to be free. Thanks for the video, you made me start replaying the game again :)

@Dorkaxe Ай бұрын

@@TummyRubz Ah, mods. Yeah I imagine there's a few niche perfect scenario builds out there that I didn't see since I didn't like the modding at all. I think I mostly tried to gamble with Hunter, since...you know lol

@ShaneStapler 13 күн бұрын

great vid

@Scitch-et4vk Ай бұрын

This game is criminally under rated

@cheeseblast 17 күн бұрын

Because it's criminally over priced.

@paulreynolds7103 Ай бұрын

It's actually good...I'm a player who never really liked turn based games until bg3...tried this after and really enjoyed it 👍🔥

@terry85mar Ай бұрын

Turn based is amazing. Final fantasy 1 through 12 are great. Persona is great too. Way better to have to use strategy instead of just parry and dodge like the horrible ff7 demake and ff16.

@almalone3282 Ай бұрын

If you never played xcom (original or reboot), you're not a real gamer.

@budlikycz2445 9 күн бұрын

@@terry85marwhat strategy? Turn based is slow and boring as fuck. Nothing there screams skill or strategy. You just attack until you have to heal in which case you heal and continue to attack. And the worst thing is percentage in which case you can fucking miss your attack which is so fucking terrible I dont need to even explain

@AJ-zi6ry Ай бұрын

Y’know they made this game free on PS+ a bit ago. Maybe I’ll pick it up

@TargetRenegade 22 күн бұрын

It's free on Epic just now.

@TheTopgeartony Ай бұрын

Yooooo another long video to get me though a work day, you're an absolute savour, just when I thought I had ran out

@jplayer073 Ай бұрын

I don't finish many games nowadays. Some of the last games I finished were Soma, Subnautica and Outer Wilds. It's been years. Loved Midnight Suns so much that I played through it multiple times. The gameplay was fantastic and the social aspects with the NPCs was a great way to give a brief respite from the tough battles, and I loved getting to interact with all these superheroes.

@7thesage853 Ай бұрын

I remember being 100 hours deep in the game and realizing that limbo grasp actually stacks on top of itself. I felt the same way about magic until I realize that, and she became an absolute monster late game afterwards

@nyx4926 14 күн бұрын

Will you be reviewing EDF IRON RAIN????

@Dorkaxe 13 күн бұрын

gimme 3 more days

@Supernothing08 Ай бұрын

Runaways is actually a very good story and highly recommend the B.K. Vaughn book.

@SilortheBlade Ай бұрын

I was really hesitant when I heard the combat would be card based, but it turned out to be great. Really surprised me. The game really hit home for me as I liked the exploration of the abby, I liked the combat, I'm a fan of marvel, and I like the persona style sim aspect. That said, a lot of the interactions seem at odds with the setting. Blade doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who is afraid to talk to a girl, even if that girl is Captain Marvel. I liked the mechanics, and even a lot of the interactions, but I think the writing didn't always jive with the superhero setting. That said the game is great overall so long as you enjoy all those mechanics.

@boiwhoactuallyareyou 25 күн бұрын

I need a dead island 2 and dying light 2 retrospective aha so many more too I’ve been binging loads of your videos for a while surprised you don’t have more subs

@amazonen66 Ай бұрын

Great video (and thanks for the small inclusion :D)! Might have to dust off the old xcom copies soon...

@FunSize4Audibles Ай бұрын

I really enjoyed this game and still load it up to play a few general missions now and again, but it was also a big part of a depressive episode I went through. Had a pretty significant upheaval in my life and was really messed up for a while. Any free time I had I would get drunk and play this game until I was falling asleep at my desk. Thankfully I'm making better choices now. Still glad I had this game for some small comfort even though the behavior that led me to playing it so much wasn't very healthy

@IcyHorn 27 күн бұрын

This game is free on epic games right now if any wants to play it on pc

@Digger318 Ай бұрын

Basically, the missions are fun and everything outside is just a boring grind wake up talk to heroes training collect research start research run around getting orbs collect intel start intel select mission night talk spend time with 1 hero book club repeat every time between missions so many load screens ughhhhhhhh just let me play missioks 1 after another

@lutherheggs451 Ай бұрын

why would anyone want to "talk to heroes" they have like the same 3 lines of dialog, once you've heard it there is zero reason to ever talk to them again.

@ThePhilatkinson Ай бұрын

I fully agree with you. Firaxis fumbled the bag here.

@koenvandiepen7651 26 күн бұрын

Yes this games suffers from the fact that much of it's loop should have been a menu. Something the developer solved whit xcom before this game. There you do not have to waste time walkking from research to training and back to missions you just do it. It tried to do the persona/fire emblem thing where you spend time whit the other chracters to improve them for battle. But the thing is in persona and fire emblem that shit is entertaining because you get to know the chracters better. I already know who ironman and spiderman are. Appart from literal heroworship there is just no point to that part of the gameplay loop.

@justinfleck6329 Ай бұрын

Wow this is a WAY more complex and flexible game than I thought based off the original description! I put way too much time and money into MTG and so i totally get how you enjoy getting new cards and how to use them with others. It was cool when you mentioned Matt Mercer as the male voice as I've been watching Critical Roll over the last few months so I got to be like "I KNOW HIM!" xD As always a very well done and complete video great job! Excited to see your next one :)

@Dorkaxe Ай бұрын

Oh very cool, I had no idea Matt Mercer was involved with that! I know him from his work in a ridiculous number of video games. He's a very prolific VA, so that's sick you knew him!

@justinfleck6329 22 күн бұрын

@@Dorkaxe Yeah he's the DM for Critical Roll, it is a VERY big and long running D&D group that have a ton of content out there so 100% worth checking it out if you're interested :)

@lulairenoroub3869 28 күн бұрын

Did you just say that Firaxis is best known for XCOM?

@cornellcarterjr6287 24 күн бұрын

This game made me want to play turn based games in general

@graysonschofer2242 Ай бұрын

Dorkaxe posted I am now busy for 2 and a half hours

@kylewolf740 Ай бұрын

Got this because of the video. Going full dark side during the team meeting and everyone, even Captain, fawning over it aftwerwards was too funny

@josesosa3337 Ай бұрын

Question: is the main character of the game an original character by the player???? Or a canon character??

@Dorkaxe Ай бұрын

They're an original character made for the game as far as I know.

@josesosa3337 Ай бұрын

@@Dorkaxe cool

@Exigentable Ай бұрын

I appreciate the runtime of the video, but I was sold as soon as you said you could pet a dog.

@ThePhilatkinson Ай бұрын

Big XCOM fan but loathed this game. My guess is that the load of dating sim mechanics to play ping pong with blade instead of base building and meaningful tactics made this a commercial failure.

@paulg.4812 Ай бұрын

I think a big issue was it was initially advertised as "superhero X-Com" but then they pivoted away from that when they realized that particular combination, at least in the Marvel-verse, didn't work. I wouldn't call the final product X-Com related at all. There's a few similar terms, sure, and a couple of similar assets, but that has more to do with the producer as opposed to the gameplay. IMO, they should have done a better job pitching what the game actually was when they realized it wasn't going to be superhero X-Com, but I don't think they did the greatest job so they ultimately didn't end up pitching to an audience who would enjoy the game (in some cases actively scaring them away if they don't like X-Com style games) and they set the wrong expectation for people going in expecting X-Com, only to be disappointed. I personally ended up enjoying the game, but I was definitely worried earlier on and it failed to meet my expectations because it was ultimately a different product than I expected. Whenever I try to sell it to other people, the only X-Com mention I'll include is "it was made by X-Com people" but I don't otherwise try and compare the two.

@leafia133 Ай бұрын

This game is so good and I’m so sad that it’s not going to get a sequel. Which sucks because A lot of its problems could be fixed with a sequel

@felman87 Ай бұрын

I was super interested in this game. "coming to Switch!" they announced. So I waited. And waited. Only for them to cancel the port. Boo, not cool!

@Dorkaxe Ай бұрын

I would have been interested to see a switch version, since on my steam deck, the thing was working overtime to keep it going it felt like. I definitely feel like a switch copy would have sold well, though, so it's a sad deal all around :(

@fishraposo7192 Ай бұрын

Honestly, this game looks like the perfect "xcom lite with marvel characters" I hoped it would be. Thank you for the review, I'm 100% going to get it.

@Exigentable Ай бұрын

The game went on sale and I took the plunge. It's pretty charming and just deep enough to be satisfying in both sim and tactics.

@diegeticfridge9167 Ай бұрын

As a HUGE Xcom 1-2 fanboy this game was really really good.

@WaddleDee105 Ай бұрын

This game was a really pleasant surprise when I played it last December. I've never played a game like this before so I found it pretty difficult but it was a rewarding experience. I just really wish the Abby stuff was cut down significantly. There's just too much time spent on what amounts to chores but that's 90% of modern AAA games sadly.

@jtsmelik1574 Ай бұрын

YOU MEAN TO TELL ME WE ARE GETTING LOTR 3rd AGE!! MY KING!!

@Venzynt 8 күн бұрын

I unfortunately got bored of this game within 2 or 3 days. I was already skeptical of something as bombastic as superheroes being depicted by turn-based card gameplay. However I am an enjoyer of Magic the gathering, superheroes, the custom Hunter, and even the lifestyle/friendship stuff. So I bought the game. Ultimately the battles started to feel more like puzzles with only one or two designated ways to succeed, constant repeats of the same enemies and environments, and boss mechanics that were just annoying. Maybe if the game was about fighting villains in an interesting way, or even pvp against other players teams and builds. Also I wish Hunter could have other options beyond just light and dark, maybe like psychic or elemental. 6/10.

@cheeseblast 17 күн бұрын

Zero shot this game is 69.99$ good regardless, and that is it's current steam price. Too rich for my blood.

@cheezburgrproduction 16 күн бұрын

Lmao intel isn’t a term that should be attributed to XCOM, as it’s just short hand for intelligence which is hilariously ironic.

@MarinaInChains Ай бұрын

c'mon, show some respect for my girl Magik

@ed-edd-n-eddy Ай бұрын

With the exception of a few characters, I don't care about Marvel. Yet, I put 50 hours into midnight sun. I think that's a telltale sign that the gameplay was incredibly fun. I couldn't get enough so I'm shocked to see how poorly it was received.

@hollowriller Ай бұрын

Would be funny if light side hunters obsession with caretaker is due to a miscommunication of their primary character trait from the writer to game devs: Good people like taking care of people -> Light side like caretaker of people -> light side loves caretaker.

@TheBlademan- Ай бұрын

this game is one of those that keeps getting better all the way until the end. Releasing it the same year as that trash Marvel Avengers game completely killed any hype it could’ve got.

@ihatevnecks7015 11 күн бұрын

This was released 2 years after Avengers

@ITZBROKENhotDOG12 Ай бұрын

Can you do a XCOM2 or WOTC retrospective! Excellent video!

@ubermorpth2208 Ай бұрын

Hey another video going over a "big" marvel game that a critique youtuber went over (Charlatan Wonder with Marvel's Avengers and now you lol)

@kamenriderfourze2358 Ай бұрын

I gave up on midnight suns when they showed the season pass characters cause when I think of supernatural I think Storm Deadpool and Venom

@Ed_G_Boise Ай бұрын

Shrek 2 review when?

@Dorkaxe Ай бұрын

Just check my channel man, I've already talked about Shrek 2

@Ed_G_Boise Ай бұрын

@@Dorkaxe I've seen it 😆

@hipo131 19 күн бұрын

around @12 minutes brother your playing a jrpg light x.x after you said eddie brock sucks all credibility out the window ain't now way bruh lol

@MarinaInChains Ай бұрын

Firaxis famously doesn't know when to make their characters shut up

@graysonschofer2242 Ай бұрын

New parent? Congrats brother

@JoshuaAdim Ай бұрын

The roster is filled with unnecessary heroes which could have been replaced with better characters

@meegufin1751 Ай бұрын

Should of said with great power comes great rizz

@abnnizzy Ай бұрын

If this game was a pure RPG without the rng cards bullshit, it would've been 110% better. But because of these things alone I skipped this game HARD.

@haveacigar5291 24 күн бұрын

i grew up with captain marvel being a man not a woman that is a feminist