It would be awesome to see, especially for those trying to balance productivity vs gaming performance. Looking forward to the follow-up!

Maybe include one older ryzen 5 as this might be a dope upgrade from like a 3400G or a 1600/2600/3600...?

Yes, please do that! Especially with the 5700X.

For people thatwant to upgrade maybe compare it to 3600 or older too.

Maybe show 2nd or 3rd Ryzen 5/7 in there too and Intel 8700k? I say 8700k because I think, like with 4770/90k it's still relevant.

Fax

The only thing that would make this commercial more colossal is the ShamWow guy

Why do i love this add so much?

Facts xD

My app automatically skips in-video adds, interacts, etc. You get a brief second of the start of the add. The IFixIt adds are the only ones I skip back and manually watch.

It's still limited by the motherboard chipset though.

Yes you need an x370. But more comon is going from b450 boards and an 2600/2700 to a 5800x3d. Imo since you are upgrading, you should get hte best cpu you mb supports.

That's literally what I did, 1600 to 5600x3d. No Am5 for me, thank you.

Yeah, but in my case I already have a 3600, 5600, would be pointless, if I stay AM4, the 5700x or 3d variant, is the logical choice, 7600 is 200 bucks on Amazon, maybe I'll upgrade here soon have a 6700xt, I'm fine for now

final form? that's 5800x3D

Depends on the game if 3D cache helps or not either way more cache the better. I know for me with my 5800x3D vs my 3950x 16 core I get & average 30-50 plus fps. And I do not get why you ask he things he did not do in the test he is not the only only one testing these cpus. Look around & use the wisdom you have before you google & youtube search. Sometimes you have to put in your own work & research. But for some reason some get lazy & only rely on others to do all the work for them out of lazy ness. 🤣

Give your sister a kick-ass PC by giving a purpose to that old AM4 motherboard you have colecting dust.

@@digitaltactics9234 Lazy ness and twinkies

@@blue-lu3iz Just say that until you get bottleneck

🏃😂

I still have 1600(non AF) paired with rtx 3060Ti. Been struggling running Total War Rome 2 and Arma 3 in High settings most probably coz of the cpu. Had to underclock my gpu and reduce my graphics settings

had the same cpu till not long ago on a 5600x now night and day difference go for it

​@@Jack-xx3qgI had 2200G with RX 5600XT and the cpu bottlenecks really hard, you really need to update that cpu.

There is one about 90 mins away for me.

Yeah, the average npc just buys then dumps their system like most people do cars. It's more so enthusiasts or people that keep up with technology that care about upgrading/maintenance. It's sad because people used to care a lot more about their things but now people can't even be bothered to support right to repair. Also, people are used to 2 year Intel cycles so they're not used to upgrading the cpu in general.

Yep that’s how I feel. My 2018 rig showing it’s age. Going to upgrade the AM4 CPU and GPU and ride that out. The other components still have some life, 750W PSU, 32gb b die ram, NVMe SSD. Once that’s over, it’s time to sell and do a full rebuild. But I wouldn’t expect that for another 5 years or so

i feel like amd has been different though. look how long am4 lasted. and now Intel might be using lga 1700 socket for another cpu, which would make that 3 cpus. Times feel different because z690 mobo and 13th gen is actually still a great combo, unlike for instance 9900k on z370. I think we will start to see smaller and smaller generational leaps in performance with cpus and them using sockets for a little longer now, with more refreshes.

thats so dumb too cause upgrading a gpu is super expensive and give you maybe 20 or 30 more fps while slotting in a new cpu will double ur fps giving u a 150-200+ fps increase for a fraction of the cost of a new gpu

​@@strongislandxThey are also hitting the limits on current silicone capability and production sizes. We kept getting smaller and better but for a long time but it seems they have hit a bit of a wall with it for some reason. But I agree with you that we will see this a bit more, i ran a 4 series intel for years and got a refresh 4770k haswell chip for it and manages to strech that pcs life into the 20 series gpu era. Its worth while for enthusiasts pc users for sure. Micro center needs to just take your pc upgrade it and give it back for the avg user tho.

ddr5 right now isnt worth the upgrade, atleast for gaming. I barely see any differences

You can't really oc the X3D chips. A lot of people tried it but the cpu will die on day or another.

"For all it's issues"...what issues does AM4 have, exactly? I've never had overheating, BIOS corruptions, or bad motherboards (sure, they're out there, but they have been for every generation of every CPU socket).

@@abrahamdelatorre3246well you can get ddr5 for like under $100 now

And AM5 is crap on a stick.

Tbh if you've been on AM4 you should've had that bios update installed a long time ago. However, Microcenter always a sticker on the motherboard bios with the latest bios written on it.

Can confirm. Upgraded my mobo to an X570 for my 3600G and now have switched to the 5800x3d and they BIOS update was a need to run it

Yup! And don't just let your motherboard's utility pick the "newest" BIOS. I did that when I upgraded from a 3600X to the 5800X3D. The new CPU wouldn't boost at all. I dug deeper and my motherboard BIOS update utility upgraded my BIOS to vF35, but the X3D support required vF37. Manually updating the BIOS fixed the issue.

I paid $180 for a 12700k via a microcenter bundle.

My thoughts exactly. I have the 12600k and love it. Microcenter has it now for $197.98

it spanks all but the 13900k from intel in gaming. so no need.

@@sadssadsa5944 depends on game/resolution. Not to mention for multitasking while gaming and/or productivity Intel will curbstomp am4 x3d.

@@sadssadsa5944 wrong. it only wins in like 2 niche titles. aside from those couple it get beat handily by intel and the other x3d chips. why tf would you comment when you obviously either watched one game benchmark or cherry picked? Also when paired with a mid tier gpu it gets beats by the 7600. People buying this chip arent pairing it with a 7900xtx, 4080 or 4090 or anything close to these cards. This will be purchased by people who cant afford a higher end gpu.

Went with AM4 and skipping AM5 maybe skip AM6 too.

The only reason to jump to AM5 would be if your jumping to it from a 7700k, and have it on sale.

It’s still a hard sell for me. The prices still looked high on AM5 parts with only small gains and driver/firmware still in its infancy.

I'm gonna go with AM4 in maybe a year or so just to piss off @heathdunn1999 - still hanging onto FM2 for now

It's true. I went with am5 and it is worth every penny. Am5 is just getting started and I won't lose money by selling my parts for second hand. Going for am4 now will be more expensive in the long run.

i try to make mine last 7-8 years just got done moving from zen 2 and a gtx 980 xd to a 4090 and a 5950x yep xd this will take me to 7090 one day may 8090

That’s the sensible option to build a new platform every 5 to 6 years that’s what I do. That way you can jump forward three or four gins. And it’s always a massive upgrade to you where is other people it’s light margins pointless in my opinion.

@@JustMyFish agreed 👍

@@imafirenmehlazer1 right on. I gave my grandson my old system. It's 11 years old right now, and believe it or not, I have it STILL running modern games. Not all mind you, but it still can run fortnite, Call of Doooooty. and a few others. With very good frames. I'll be giving him my current rig next year and building a new system then. I get my money out of every system.

Define "this". The internal dialog going on in your head needs to have context if you're going to make a comment you expect people to read. There were two CPUs in this video being compared, so when you say the word "this", it is an absolute irrelevant statement.

plus most people won't be rocking this with a 4090 but it is possible the next gen rtx5070 or whatever it is in a few years would likely be a good match and people who already have the am4 platform are now getting epic millage out of it.

Those same people "probably" sit on either deadend motherboards with deadend CPUs or on 3600+ CPUs. And for those same people - it's better to invest those spare ~250$ into a GPU to get the performance boost. Like, literally, if you are sitting on some 3060 and you have an opportunity to liquidate it for some 250$ while adding 250$ on top for 4070(or even 3080\ti used) - that's a MUCH bigger improvement. The FPS that Jay shows are with 4090 or otherwise "for-test-purposes" card. You won't get that much FPS if you improve 1600 for 5600xDDD on some 3060. Well, perhaps, you'll get like 10 fps, faster loading times, higher 1% lows, but that's it. Not that getting a 3080 for 1600 would be a great idea, but... 3080 you can put into the new system, whereas 5600xDDD would be forever stuck in AM4. The only more or less sensible upgrade that I could imagine would be some B450\2600 kid who had his parents buy the PC, but over the years he got a job and earned his first grand or something. He could somewhat make it work. But anything less than B450 is a dead motherboard(X370 owners probably have either upgraded already or aren't running 1600) and anything better than 2600 is a perfectly capable CPU that doesn't need to be upgraded. After all - this is all just 6 cores "purely for gaming" scenario. And 6 cores is shit. And gaming isn't the end all be all. When I bought my 5600 - it was like 150$, and that's already a much better bang for the buck.

I have a 7900xtx, ganna grab this 5600x3D or 5800x3D, am5 isn't worth it

​@@WirxawTanev 🖐️ I have an x370 with a 1600 lol. I will be upgrading to a 5800x3d

@@BaldKiwi117 With Zen 5 and Meteor Lake coming this year.... good luck. I hope that ~350$ investment is going to be a meaningful one, "unlike" a building something like a 13500+b660 on discount(for same 350$) or even just spending a bit more, but getting a proper new system with DDR5. I should point out that 5800xDDD was released 1.5 years ago, back then it may have been competitive with still expensive Zen 4 and Alder\Raptor. But you know better.

Budget shoppers doing the one small upgrade they can barely squeak out of their tight monthly budget do feel those price differences. If the 5600x3D is the best a person can afford it's a truly great CPU for the money.

Previously had a 1700. Literally anything you can get above it will be a tangeable upgrade.

@@Brian-dd2df Can confirm, I had a 1600x and it was honestly kind of buggy, apparently that was an issue with just the 1600x at the time. It got better with updates, but I eventually got a 3600 and yeah, It's a massive upgrade. I then went 5800x and now have a 5800x3d that just arrived today. Don't even have it in my system yet. Upgrading to even ryzen 3 is a big upgrade over gen 1

Just do what everyone has done for the last year and drop in a 5800x3d. Those 2 cores are going to come in handy in the next few years. And you will see a MASSIVE improvement from that 1700.

Very happy with my 5700X upgrade from my 1700X. Everything was noticeably faster.

Dude, I just got a 5600x like two months ago, and I'd get the 3D version in a heartbeat if it were available here at msrp.

*waves

definitely wait I went for AM5 X670 7950x the lot...never worked properly dismantled it switched to intel that goes to 95°C with +100w on the cpu but w o r k s which is pretty important....current AM5 is beta testing of the worst case

Same boat. Staying with the 6600 since it's the only gpu that's near us prices in my country. Maybe there'll be more rdna 3 releases this year.

I feel that GPU manufacturers lost their direction this launch. Nvidia is so out of touch that it’s comical last gen outperforms their current gen with exception of the two flag ships but it takes a real enthusiast / mental case to drop the kind of money or more than a nice system that can play new titles and come in about $1250 US. AMD while not as gouging has three next gen cards in July? Definitely asleep at the wheel AMD

@@fredEVOIX Just like what Jay said. If you don't like to tinker with anything. When it comes to a first gen new platform. Then don't get it. If I recall, I think the X99 and X299 at first had problems. Why normal people should wait at least a year or so after said platform has been out.

@@kenhuntington449 The RTX 3000 series. I blame the free market. When they over produced them. Mainly why the RTX 4000 prices are the way they are. (mainly because of the crypto people)

Depending on the Games you play, the 5800X3D can make a significant to huge difference compared to the 5600X especially with a powerful card like a 3080Ti (im on a 3080 12Gig myself with a 5800X3D @1440p) and saves you the platform change for a while longer. Example: watch?v=81kAorV30Vc (Remember tho, that Cyberpunk ha a problem with AMDs 8Core Processors, that do not work as intended, especially the SMT part as CDPR has optimized for Hexacores, but there is a fixed executable for Cyberpunk out there that gives the 8cores a pretty decent boost, increasing CPU performance of the 8core cpus by up to 20%)

I think your system is good for another 5 years or so, i wouldnt go AM 5 just yet if i already had a powerful AM4 rig.

Same here, have the 5600x with a 3080 and have been itching to upgrade to 5800x3d

@@johnlopez1717 nah bro save it...the next big upgrade for you guys would be AM 5 i think

5600X and 3090 here. AM4 X3D chips seem quite appealing but haven't really felt the need to upgrade yet except in certain heavy RT scenarios in specific titles

You know what gives more lifespan? 5800x3d

well when an i5-4460 is 30$ u know that we are screwed

From the benchmarks I've seen 5600x3D is only 3-5% slower then 5800x3D, pretty nuts when one is $100 more, ganna grab one soon.

Get off that cloud homeboy, the 5800x3d doesnt even trade blows with a properly tuned 7600. This youtuber is testing a stock 7600 on stock timings probably without even using XMP. I've tested a 7600 at 5.625ghz on all cores, ram at 6400 CL28 1-1 2167 fclk and I was walking the 5800x3d on every single game. Keep in mind the 5800x3d was also overclocked to 4.650ghz with a 104.5 BCLK overclock running 3800CL13. My cinebench r23 scores witht he 7600 were 16350 multi core and 2050 single core.

could u do a benchmark comparison?@@juice7661

No issues or stutters? My 3900x seems to hate my 6950xt and I’ll get stutters here and there. Is the jumó worth it from a 3900x to 5950x?

@@Yokai_Warrior21 The upgrade is worth it to me as I'm also getting into creating video content. And as for stuttering, no my games are running as smooth as freshly waxed snatch. LOL

7600 non x beats it in efficiency and being cheaper, though it's still a great AM4 upgrade if you already have one.

Same undervolt and I'm seeing at full load 74w, max 80C after a hour of R23 on a H150i, and a constant 4,449MHz boost clock. When browsing the web and watching YT, it will only use a max of 13w. All that is measured via Ryzen Master. I can't wait to see how undervolting the 5600X3D works out.

@@deathtoinfidelsdeusvult2184 its not better for gaming, and its sensitive to ram speed, x3d is just better, and yes i wanted to keep am4, remember i am not talking about stock 5800x3d

Find out if your MB supports Kombo Strike and you can undervolt it in the bios. You won't have to reundervolting it with pbo2 every time you reboot your pc anymore.

@@sirlurksalot4454 i am an ln2 overclocker, it doesn't, i automated pbo2tuner and its hidden, i forgot about it

There are no performance gains if your GPU is in middle class territory like RX 5700 XT - RX 6800. And the savings as it is right now are only when you choose AM4. There is still the cheaper upgrade option to a 5800 X3D instead of a 7700 X. And when the time has come the AM5 platform has gotten cheaper and there will be new chipsets available (in 18+ months). But who knows ... maybe in 3 years a Ryzen 5800x/ 5800 X3D is still a solid CPU combined with mid-tear GPUs.

@@hassosigbjoernson5738 i'm talking about this exact moment in time as the CPU is out tomorrow. There are minor performance gains in productivity over the 5600x3d is all I was mentioning really there. What I meany by saving money long term has to do with not having to buy everythjng again. Theoretically, when upgrading, I wouldn't need a new motherboard or ram as I already have them. Yes they would be cheaper in 5 years but not cheap enough to make up for buying an entire am4 and am5 board as well as the ddr4 and ddr5 ram instead of just the am5/ddr5 now.

Pretty balanced combo honestly.

i think this might be the last am4 cpu, hopefully am5 prices will drop

@@GeneralS1mba we'll see more variants come out for AM4 based on zen 3, like the Ryzen 7 5700F that was spotted recently as AMD tries to get rid of their leftover zen 3 stock.

When I first built my computer in 2019 I did a mish-mash of parts to get me something better than what I had at a decent price. I did a first gen Ryzen 1700 and a B450 board with 16 GB of Team Group TForce 3200 RGB ram. But when I finally upgraded my cpu again to a 3700X the B450 board I had really didn't like it even with the latest bios version at the time. So I ended up replacing that with my current MSI X570 board. Then everything else has slowly been changed out and replaced a piece at a time over the years since it was built to get what I currently have. :)

pretty sure he went over this in the video

Honestly, recycling the silicon makes sense business wise, and I like it environmentally wise.

You were right about the 5700x3d:О

Undoubtedly if they had defect 5800x3d they will also have defect 7800X3D.

This video is pointless for most of us.

@@darkmetal825 YES!

@@alien4422yet here you are

He put in so little work dude. He benched 2 cpus in a handful of tests. Couldnt even put 1% lows or make a graph.

Go 5800X3D.

same, replaced my x99 platform