I spent $420 on a Survival Knife - Lionsteel M7 vs TRC Apocalypse

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@chrisjaskulski8613 3 жыл бұрын

Intentional or not, I love the irony on the hatchet in the background of the chopping scene

@unknownriderinbound 3 жыл бұрын

Hard to see surviving the apocalypse with only two premium sport knives, you should definitely get more.

@whynottalklikeapirat 9 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s just not feasible

@mungo75 3 жыл бұрын

I'm only 40 seconds in, and already Uncle Lynn would be so proud…

@d4mdcykey 3 жыл бұрын

This man's dedication is at S Tier level while also making me laugh my ass off. Legend.

@amedeoperri3571 3 жыл бұрын

Here in Europe the trc costs about two times the lionsteel, you can find the m7 for about 210€. Thank you for the test, and... complimenti per l'italiano!!😂

@golDroger88 3 жыл бұрын

Yep, just bought one for that much.

@darrenlamb5640 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah same in UK. The m7 is about £180 the trc closer to £400.

@drewby618 3 жыл бұрын

Seeing that mirror edge reminds me how much of a mad lad you are

@boktor74 3 жыл бұрын

Holy bejesus, 420$ for the lionsteel😳 Like others already mentioned, the TRC is about twice as expensive as the M7 here in EU. Thats the main reason I have chosen the M7 over the Apo. I've bought my M7 for less than 200€. A great knife for the money. I have a TRC speed demon Apo, and the finish is out of this world. Almost a pity to use the crap out of it. But I do😎 Great vid Pete, keep it up👍

@joshuagenovese36 4 ай бұрын

It's now like 219, good deal now..

@Larry-gs8gb 3 жыл бұрын

Loved the intro, very Advanced Knife Bro - ish .Which I feel is on point for a knife specifically designed for protecting yourself from trees.

@invictus3598 3 жыл бұрын

The most comprehensive, honest, and humorous knife reviews on KZfaq! Thank you for all your efforts to produce such enjoyable material!

@kasslatter1 3 жыл бұрын

Haha the italian part was actually pretty good🙈!! I understood all of it without subtitles haha

@jacknemo8021 3 жыл бұрын

Lol, all I got out of that was a recommendation to buy the Becker.

@AnomadAlaska 3 жыл бұрын

BK9 chops like a 12 inch machete, without the reach. Very good for it's size. Of course you can have 5 or so OKC 12 inch machete's for the price of a BK9 here in the US.

@johnnyeas1431 9 ай бұрын

Sleipner is tougher then the elmax. I bought the M7. In America, the M7 is around $230, while the TRC is around $500. Big difference in $$. The only big positive the trc has over the lionsteel is that it's stainless.

@rando27enco 12 күн бұрын

Elmax also has better edge retention and trc does a better heat treat than Lion steel but I agree the M7 is a much, much better value in the states.

@profesorEDC 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video as always Pete. Great info, entertaining and honest. Thank you ❗😊👍

@GOxHAM 3 жыл бұрын

Fun video, love the beats per usual! LOOOL at the paper discussing scratches from kydex sheath and the sparky joke 🤣👍

@johnkezima9260 3 жыл бұрын

In Canada it's a choice between the Apocalypse and the Ford truck.

@rickdunbar2319 3 жыл бұрын

I've had my apocalypse for about 4 years now and it's in my top 3 favorites.

@sweetdrahthaar7951 2 жыл бұрын

Finally decided to buy one and I can’t find one anywhere. Not even overseas. 🤦🏻‍♂️ I do know where there’s a South Pole model so I think I’ll grab it. 👍🏻

@adambeachard6794 3 жыл бұрын

Got a lot of laughs from this video and I needed them all today. Thank you sincerely!

@RobBernhard 3 жыл бұрын

"I feel silly" is exactly why we're here, Pete. Cheers! :)

@chillax1969 3 жыл бұрын

Recently caught the EDC and camping knife bug. Found your edge retention testing a very useful reference point. I'm a chemical and materials engineer working for a steel company. We aren't tool or blade steel specialists. However, I understand steel chemistry, microstructure, testing, properties, statistics etc. Looking through your spreadsheet I had some thoughts that might be of interest. I'll try send through at some stage. No worries if not. Have fun.

@gsrossco 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I had a sparky! Love my t5, bought it after watching your review. Probably the best handle of any knife I've owned.

@kitsnap1228 3 жыл бұрын

4:17 The Molletta is quite a better choice IMHO, the 3D micarta handle is looking way more comfortable, the drop point blade shape is beautiful AF and the other one is kinda looking like a mall ninja dream with the radioactive logo and also the handle cannot be taking apart. PS: 10:05 Put a good lanyard on it and it's done. PS2: And me like a a good sheath.

@tombrown8800 3 жыл бұрын

Channelling Lynn Thompson in this one. Pete, hope you enjoyed making this one a fraction as much as I enjoyed watching ! Pretty sporty looking baton you're wielding. That extra inch always comes at a high price my friend. Used to do all my de-limbing with a modified Western W-49 before it was stolen (grip & guard cut down a lot).

@Aurelius_01 3 жыл бұрын

All the Lionsteel fixe blades have a scrapper for firesteel or other usages at the pommel of the knives. Good video as always.

@polimorfosnuclear8320 Жыл бұрын

I have a TRC Apo Knife. The knife is premium in every aspect. Elmax steel. It is Full Tang (the lyon steel is not). It is partially made by hand. Its edge is handmade. Comes with certificate of authenticity sign by the creator and owner of TRC. It has the serial number láser included on the Blade, mine is like the 300 and something knife made. The Tip is improved. It was chosen the Knife of the Year in All Europe. So its a hole thing.

@DaSLouiS 3 жыл бұрын

I feel you bro, its cause its spring time. Yesterday i bought the spartan difensa for camping.

@nineofpine2139 3 жыл бұрын

Dude your channel always seems to have the freshest music

@myballwilson 3 жыл бұрын

A watch for the clever jokes. You're so funny that watched a 20 minute video about two pieces of sharpened steel. You are the Garand Thumb of knife videos!

@DrBlazer50 3 жыл бұрын

Superb musical opening again!!!

@klaymoon1 3 жыл бұрын

Great review! I wish you included Fallkniven A1X.

@EricBrownWins 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine how much more expensive LionSteel could be if they had fancy magnetic display boxes.

@docholiday8618 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome review! Thanks a lot!

@Mojo-fg7ps 3 жыл бұрын

The Lionsteel T5 has become my EDC, absolutely love the blade and ergos and is always with me! Thanks for the recommendation👍

@kevinAuman1 3 жыл бұрын

I will say this has shoved me over the decision making edge and I'll be ordering one within next few days!

@vaqueromago9087 3 жыл бұрын

"and a inadequate lover" 😂

@alcmantyrtaeus 3 жыл бұрын

More comparison videos please. They are worthwhile to make decisions about comparable knives.

@Centerfingerblades Жыл бұрын

your aim on the chop cuts are impeccable!

@Nudel-nc1cp 3 жыл бұрын

This was a great episode. Still miss Uncle Randy tough😌

@praetor47 3 жыл бұрын

doesn't matter which steel has the best edge retention, 'cause with these kinds of videos you have the best viewer retention!

@dm3639 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure "sporting knife" means it is for use while golfing.

@floriangerold5126 3 жыл бұрын

Gˋday Pete, again a really good video. 👍 I really like your style making them. „Sparky“... Bloody hilarious 😂😂😂 Keep up the great work! Greetings from Germany. ✌️

@flashforce699 3 жыл бұрын

If you notice most knives out of Italy have very nice sheaths , like Fox and Extrema Ratio .

@andrewjones3218 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Pete! Love the channel and you sir are a comedic genius!! If you like both of those knives, they seem very similar and within the same league as the Chris Reeve Pacific. It might be hard/expensive to get your hands on in Australia, but it seems like you might enjoy it alongside these knives for comparison; especially compared to the TRC

@J85909266 3 жыл бұрын

Only 2 minutes in and you have made me legitimately laugh out loud 3 times. Impressive work, sir.

@gavincutler8889 Жыл бұрын

I find the T7 a great all rounder; I paid £214 sterling and chose uncoated satin blade. As you say the sheath is functionally superb. No knife is perfect at everything, but this is right up there with the Fallkniven A1 Pro as a general purpose knife. I also like the Fallkniven A2 which is an older model in VG10 but ergonomically nice imho. The T7 feels solid and reliable and I’d be happy to recommend it. If you primarily want a chopper the Terava Skrama 240 is a great budget option, I’ve found, and no need to mollycoddle it!!

@Shanes_sharp_sheet 3 жыл бұрын

Great review Peter!

@kerryrwac 3 жыл бұрын

food colouring makes the water look neat when you cut the bottles. TRC is making the DBK knife.

@buchgeisterralf3251 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for the fine Video. The prices are interesting: In germany you get the M7 for 206 Euros and the TRC Apocalypse for 445 Euros. With these prices I go for the Lionsteel! Your video was very helpfull! continue make your informative vids and take care greetings from germany Ralf

@jameshealy4594 3 жыл бұрын

You should give ballistol a try mate it's a decent lube, good rust preventative and it's food safe. Works well for cleaning too, it's basically a better WD-40 in my eyes.

@gtrul3s387 3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂 laughed so hard! I really love my Apocalypse for what it is. Thanks for the nice review as usual! Keep on the good work!

@Cz82 2 жыл бұрын

My apocalypse is my favorite knife but I'm also too nervous to take it out and maybe lose it 😂

@gtrul3s387 2 жыл бұрын

@@Cz82 i must be crazy because i use this knife litteraly every camping trip since i got it😂 and i beat it hahaha

@Cz82 2 жыл бұрын

@@gtrul3s387 I'm sure it can take a beating but I'm afraid of some Ranger making up a reason to confiscate it 😂

@rustyyates421 3 жыл бұрын

I can do anything with my 60 dollar survival knife that one can do with a 420 dollar one.

@jtallday31 Жыл бұрын

Not likely. 3v with the right heat treat can be hammered thru bolts and chain without rolling or chipping. No $60 edge does that. Plenty of $60 blades can do regular knife stuff just as well.

@rustyyates421 Жыл бұрын

@J T I can do anything with my 60 dollar survival knife that someone can practically and realistically do with a 400 dollar plus knife. Things you can cut, stab, chop.

@daveyboy6985 Ай бұрын

@@jtallday31yeah right, I'd like a demo on utube please😅

@uticacrib1664 3 жыл бұрын

So happy that I only paid 70 bucks for my large piece of Sleipner. Great review as usual!

@deathbyastonishment7930 3 жыл бұрын

Which knife?

@snowman7161 3 жыл бұрын

The Kyzliar Bastardo is a big cheaper knife with sleipner steel

@deathbyastonishment7930 3 жыл бұрын

@@snowman7161 cheaper yes, but in Australia it would cost around 200 American dollars or more

@Cz82 3 жыл бұрын

If you use the back of the tip where it gets wider the spine is sharp enough for the fire steel on the TRC

@Jocksknife 3 жыл бұрын

Well "Sparky" has just sent me down a " i need to go watch Blackadder then some Monty python " mindset 🤣 Thank you sir.. entertaining as ever 🍻

@choochmoed 3 жыл бұрын

Love the videos learn a lot about the different steels get u a William colins knife love to see u test one out

@brianf9619 Жыл бұрын

I Customized My Becker BK9 and My BK 7 over 10 years ago and they are Still Going Strong 💪. Those Knives are Still flat out Tough to Beat , especially for the Price ....👍🖖

@budthecyborg4575 3 жыл бұрын

MagnaCut is about to revolutionize the Bush Knife world.

@rubiconoutdoors3492 8 ай бұрын

The leather sheath option from TRC is an amazing sheath.

@MountainFisher 3 жыл бұрын

Best handle I've found for chopping is a Hickory ax or hatchet handle although Ash or Maple are good too :) All kidding aside I am pretty old school and if I were headed into the back country my survival backpack would have a small 2 lb. Hudson Bay axe as I've used one helping a friend build a small cabin about 5-6 miles from the nearest road in Idaho. It is a great little ax that you can use two or one handed. Even so a hatchet would work better than just about any knife out there. There are exceptions of course, always are, but a 4-5 inch fixed blade, no thicker than 5/32 or 4mm with 1/8 being best for all around use. Add in a folder plus a hatchet and you're all set for wood crafting.

@velocity324 3 жыл бұрын

It's only about $230 here in the US whereas a Becker bk7 is $150 with the micarta handles and a nylon sheath. At that price it's a decent deal. $420 is a bit rough, especially for sleipner steel, even though lionsteel seems to have a really good heat treat on their sleipner.

@diegocaruso3791 2 жыл бұрын

Sleipner it's a high performance steel... it's not cheap

@davidcooke8825 3 жыл бұрын

That opening sequence was truly fucking funny. Thanks Pete.

@GetMeThere1 3 жыл бұрын

Love this video! Thanks.

@AR9ify 3 жыл бұрын

Great review! ✨

@Airik1111bibles 3 жыл бұрын

Give it year and Pete's new property will only have stumps on it🤣

@STUFFWEDO 3 жыл бұрын

I love the video. Thank you.

@grandriver3152 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid. Now I like my BK-7 even more.

@hcavn 3 жыл бұрын

A$420! Even when not on sale, that would have been like A$295 from Lamnia (free shipping too). If you had gotten it last week, it was 12% off.

@kevinAuman1 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely awesome review I've been eyeballing these for a while and love the looks of them and they just look very capable but the price was always just out of my reach and I'd spend a little less and get a bit smaller knife lol partly because I already own half dozen 7in + blade choppers including a badass Gavko custom knifechette and it doesn't get any better than that sucker! You what actually disappointed me for the money? The Bark river jx5 it is just too thick and chunky and unnecessarily heavy so it doesn't really bite into material like some of my thinner more high performance choppers do! I mean you'd never break it but then again when would you ever really carry it lol

@joshuagenovese36 4 ай бұрын

Awesome review. I never use spine to get a fire going. .I use a Striker. And I actually love the rounded spine.

@Barryhatchet 3 жыл бұрын

You are the king of knife nerds. I keep watching all your videos. What does this say about me? Thank you for always being informative and entertaining. Live long and prosper.

@pieman7 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoyed every minute...

@dwightehowell8179 3 жыл бұрын

I'm going with the hatchet or maybe a machete, or my BK9. What I'm seeing suggests they are just high priced toys anyway which is fine if that's what you want to do.

@jamesgurr7678 2 жыл бұрын

I've heard you mentioning how much you like the Lionsteel t5 compared to most of its competitors. I was just wondering,now that you've had the chance to try others, would you still buy a t5 nowadays, or if not which fixed blade would you replace it with? Cheers Pete- keep up the content👍✌️!

@jasemac5391 4 ай бұрын

Wow you’re knives look razor sharp polished 😱🔪 I needed 200 stitches just looking at them 👍🏻🇦🇺

@Michaelblecich 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your vids, thanks. You've helped me avoid more than few knives that look good on paper, but how would I have ever known about leaving blade coating on my food with you showing us? That right there was enough to turn me off the m7

@fathersonsurvival 2 жыл бұрын

Does this handle hurt on the m7 when chopping with hammer grip and not choked back? Or is it hurting no matter what?

@daeholm 3 жыл бұрын

That was the best batoning I've ever seen you do. Did you fly in some wood from Canada to replace your usual grarled Austrailian hardwood?

@archivist17 3 жыл бұрын

Professional stunt logs

@darrenparkes9805 3 жыл бұрын

Always respect your videos

@friscoray2 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Any way to get your thoughts or perhaps a video on the mid size or larger survive GSO knives? In comparison to the these two and maybe even an a1 pro?

@chillax1969 3 жыл бұрын

And thanks for the videos!!

@jacobegelund3304 3 жыл бұрын

Question regarding the sharpening tool used circa 8 minutes in: are there any tricks how to sharpen small blades on a traditional folder. I have a similar system and find it tricky to get an edge on a trad folder down to sub 20 degree on it?

@CedricAda 3 жыл бұрын

yeah those little tiny blades are the devil! there are often extended jaws made for these kinds of systems that pinch the knife further away allowing for a higher angle. KME does have small knife jaws you can buy, and i reckon the vipers, tsprofs etc would also have variants

@griff7749 Жыл бұрын

I don't know how much these would be in Australia, but The Knife Connection has their Architect knives, and their 6.5 inch blade in 3V runs for about 165 usd. It's great heat treat and quality, with custom options for handles. Maybe the best deal for 3V, and comparable size to the TRC knife, only less than half the price.

@darrenlamb5640 2 жыл бұрын

Btw the m7 is available in the UK for £180 or thereabouts. The cheapest we can get the trc for is about £400 and then theres the new 'brexit' charge for goods from europe which puts another chunk on it. In all the lionsteel is less than half the price of the trc here at least. I think they are ripping ppl off in oz.

@lonestardude6283 3 жыл бұрын

Great! I need your last bit of music to play loudly everywhere I go, as like a sound track on a constant loop!

@BabakPA 3 жыл бұрын

That a very steep price for that steel. This knife with its great design should have been made from 3V. Just my humble opinion. Thank you for the video.

@Plus_P_Plus 3 жыл бұрын

The AR -15 is of course referred to as MSR=Modern Sporting Rifle here in the states. Sporting Knife” works!

@HUZ9k3s5w 3 жыл бұрын

hmm my message did not get through. Was just saying about the KME, found a company - gritomatic - that sell accessories for various sharpeners, including the KME. One nice thing there is "the universal stone holder" for the KME, so you can use larger stones that are not made for the KME sa such but for other sharpeners, like the Edge Pro. Just ordered the univ. stone holder my self

@beckydorton7013 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man I've been meaning to run this by u for a while now (procrastination)😑 How about using all of ur "left over" rope shavings and cuttings to make some homemade micarta? I think it would turn out really interesting looking and of course u could color it with rit dye or testors model paint or any enamel paint really or even add some copper shavings or chips in it I'd really love to see it Thanx for all the good content

@DrBlazer50 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I second that very good idea.

@patricktakada9551 3 жыл бұрын

Other than increased edge retention, which is the least important attribute of a knife to me, so long as it's not ridiculously terrible, I don't see what these offer over a Bk-9, Bk-7, Esee 6, Junglas, or even a Cold Steel Drop Forged Survivalist. You're absolutely right that these are luxury goods. If I wanted a semi-stainless survival knife I would go with 3V, which would hopefully be easier to sharpen than either the Lionsteel or TRC. For luxury I'd take a Bark River Bravo 2 or 1.5 over these.

@greekveteran2715 3 жыл бұрын

Better edge geometry, better heat treatment, way better steels, better handle materials, way better sheaths, way better knives overall. Better blade and edge Geometry along with better heat treatment alone, makes a huge difference. Esees are overpriced and overated,their blade geometries are the same as the cheapest Chinese knives I ever had (too thick behind the edge) Esees and Gerber Strongarm (for example) their only positive, is their heat treatment. Steels are very poor 1095 is also an overated steel for what it is...Handle ergos, also should be and is better, on more expensive knives. PS1 (Ka-Bar steel is not 1095. It's a steel very similar, if not the same, as the Carbon V. that Cold Steel used back in their glorius days!! PS2 You should get a Survive GSO or a TRC Mille Cuori, to be able to tell the difference, and understand what a quality knife is.

@nickiesiple5222 5 ай бұрын

@@greekveteran2715 I love Mille Cuori. Wish I could pair it with Elmax Speed Demon. Mille Cuori has longer edge length that some clever hunting knife and it's not an overbuilt Bowie either. I love knives, watching videos, especially funny good ones from Cedric & Ada channel add alot to my knife enthusiast hobby. I been seeing value in LionSteel, MKM and knives made there. TRC Knives give me stainless or powder metallurgy premium Knives for scratching the itch of quality. Bark River Knives satisfy too, most above all Bravo Tope Recon. It's the golden age of Knives with technology and internet to spread the word. I remember the '80's you were lucky to even know there were great Knives like Pacific Cutlery and RANDALL-MADE . Now you can see performance and delivery options like in this video and know what you're in for before buying. Helps having better than a teenager's pocketbook now too. Thanks for the video!

@seanf5760 3 жыл бұрын

Oii Pete ya spud, with the LionSteel it has a crisp edge for the fire steel down at the base of the handle hence the gap in the handle.

@J85909266 3 жыл бұрын

I did a quick search and didn't see that you've ever tried the ESEE Junglas. I may be wrong, either way, as a slightly larger than average man that occasionally has wood to cut, I like it over the BK9 and honestly a lot of way more expensive stuff. I don't at all mind a softer, tough steel on my big knives, the handle is very accommodating and comfortable during chopping for larger hands, and the sheath is great. Price isn't bad either. Maybe check it out sometime if you haven't already. It's basically a weighted machete. It sails through wood.

@deathbyastonishment7930 3 жыл бұрын

He did review the rtak 2 which is quite similar

@J85909266 3 жыл бұрын

@@deathbyastonishment7930 My cousin Has the RTAK 2, and I have the Junglas. I can tell you, they are similar but quite different, especially in the handle.

@deathbyastonishment7930 3 жыл бұрын

@@J85909266 Yes the handle on the rtak looks monstrously large and quite blocky

@jonnygonzo5362 Жыл бұрын

Brilliant review, love both knives. Can you tell me the make and model of the sharpening tool you used in the video,many thanks

@davidaxman 3 жыл бұрын

Ah my favourite knife-bro, Pietro from Italy

@mariothewhite 3 жыл бұрын

have you tryed the pommel in the lionsteel with the ferro rod? Some models have it sharp on purpose for it

@sweetdrahthaar7951 3 жыл бұрын

Painfully dumb but incredibly entertaining. Thanks Pete 👍🏻

@davidblowe9096 3 жыл бұрын

All the time I spent out bush I never found a 2x4 - hmm must have had the wrong knife with me.

@ciderandthorazine 3 жыл бұрын

i've always thought that, in hell, you have to endlessly sort out rolls of cling-film that someone else has got brutishly frustrated with. however, chopping through 2x4s with a balanced straight blade - that might be something you get to do on bank holidays, in hell.

@greekveteran2715 2 жыл бұрын

As my friend Dr Wako would say...."This is...a Batoning knife!"

@Airik1111bibles 3 жыл бұрын

Learning lines in Spanish oopsI mean "italian".....THAT TAKES SERIOUS COMMITMENT Pete 🤣👍 That was freaking awesome.

@Nudel-nc1cp 3 жыл бұрын

That was Italian 😏

@Airik1111bibles 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nudel-nc1cp tomato tamoto for my ears ....Sounds like Spanish ...but yes Italian ....Those guys take serious offense if ya bring up Spain or confuse the two esp when talking about knife brands .

@Airik1111bibles 3 жыл бұрын

@@Nudel-nc1cp there I fixed it 🤪

@Nudel-nc1cp 3 жыл бұрын

@@Airik1111bibles nice👍

@klaassiersma4892 3 жыл бұрын

If you do that treelimb chopping here in Holland you must be prepared to kill some forrest wardens too afterwards if you don't want a gigantic fine.

@airadaimagery692 3 жыл бұрын

Even on your own property?

@jameshealy4594 3 жыл бұрын

Here in Australia, it depends on what the tree is and where you live. Pete's out in the country and that looked like a decorative tree in his yard rather than a native out in the bush.

@CedricAda 3 жыл бұрын

yes, one of my personal trees. Supposed to only chop deadfall here too, when in parks etc

@klaassiersma4892 3 жыл бұрын

@1k horsepwr, above a certain height tree, yes.

@airadaimagery692 3 жыл бұрын

@@klaassiersma4892 wow... Im assuming then that no one purchases wooded land with the intent to use the timber to build their dwelling, or shops...

@josephmartin1540 9 ай бұрын

Appreciated your form when ending the deadly rope snake early on. Form was just right for the size of snake, Not exerting the extra motion which might have been required for a larger rope snake. Your practice is working padawan. 🌝