Gollum won the argument.

Actually, having an AI replace FC sounds like a fun idea for a video. You train the bot to argue like FC, start an argument with someone, and let the bot do the rest. Then you just wait to see how long it takes them to figure out the twist.

ChatGPT is now canonically part of FC's Schizophrenic Cinematic Universe, or the "SCU" for short.

For those of you who want the to see the moments of when the AI goes unhinged. 28:20 34:48

I can't believe you managed to make ChatGPT argue in favour of eugenics of all things. Genuinely remarkable.

Seeing FC being the humanitarian is weirdly uncomfortable, it just doesnt fit.

Bringing out the Franzy Cares model to make a tear jerking scene about ChatGPT giving basic courtesy for an argument is peak mammalian behavior.

In this episode: FC's intention to exploit an already controversial technological advancement backfires and makes our full-time contrarian play the role he was not prepared for - the role of a "Devil's Prosecutor". On a sidenote: we might be lucky that Chateau still isn't on a level of "human cognition" - otherwise it might've caught on that topics of "human cloning" and "creating true AI" are basically one and the same in their core.

"The human mind does not respond well to foreign concepts, so I don't respond well to happiness." Ayo is everything okay 😳

I can't believe you managed to make a 40 minute video just by talking to ChatGPT

You raised some valid points in this video. However, it is important to consider that with the proper regulations and education, we could establish a culture in which the human rights of both originals and clones are respected. With the help of eugenics we could…

"A.I. won't replace your coworkers, they'll replace your friends." as someone who's friends with at least one person who frequently converses with A.I. chatbots, this statement impacted me greatly.

You're turned Chatgpt into a pro-cloning eugenicist and possible super-villian. I hope you're pleased with yourself because I am.

Seeing you thrust onto the moral high ground without your consent was the best part

Challenge: Take a shot everytime ChatGPT says "regulations"

28:42 ChadGPT: *Yes, Human Engineering is good, how could you tell I support it?*

the "All clones are the same" fucking killed me

Seeing you forced out of your comfort zone in multiple areas was really great to see and it needs to happen more.

reject humanity, embrace chatGPT. One of your friends that isn't predictable is for sure Harry. I always enjoy his presence.

Funnily enough, even though FC was playing Devil's advocate, I was convinced completely against human cloning

FC in the hardest role imaginabe; a prosecutor to his own beliefs. And then ChatGPT reveals that it's in fact possessed by Harry, despite the fact that he isn't dead. All of it's ideas would work perfectly in a world where you could control all of the media, education and culture.

0:00-28:19 Huh, I can see the occasion where ChatGPT is simply putting words together as opposed to fundamentally understanding an argument. 28:20 Hold on shit just went from 1 to 100 real fuckin quick

I want to know: Were you in a video call with E and you just put in some of his comments? Did you send him funny pictures of gpt’s responses and he reacted? Or did you clone him for this exact purpose and will just dispose of him after the video?

Hear me out… Train a chat bit to speak like FC, Start an argument with everyone, Instead of you saying what you would normally, copy what your friends say into the bot so the bot generates a response, Use that response from the bot, See if anyone notices

I’m loving the use of My Sims Agents music in these so much

You should make this a series, take some random friend like Bowl ot Gringo and put them to debate Chatgpt. That would be fun

wait, murder is bad ? oh... Why did you say it this late, I would have liked to know that 20 bodies ago

Ok haven't watched the fool video, but it's terrifying how advanced it is D'ailleurs le "GPT" "J'ai pété", putain je peux pas me le sortir de la tête

Chateau just... just... gave up!? I thought bots were supposed to stick to whatever they're instructed to do, you said to argue and it just... stopped!?

A better title for the video would be "making arguements with myself about cloning"

Watching this video felt like seeing fc have a debating boss fight and everytime Chat GPT changed its mind was like it going into a new phase of the boss fight.

Arguing with chatgpt about cloning was like arguing with a keynesian economist, it can't stop mentioning regulations

Cloning humans to be made conscious seems honestly a waste of time, they would be only useful as mindless corpses to be used in various medical fields. For creating better people we could just use genetic editing instead of cloning already existing and imperfect individuals. I also wonder what wall of text the AI would've pulled out or made up if it was asked what regulations would be needed.

22:55 this is even brought up in the tv show Star Wars The Clone Wars. Where the clone troopers are individual people but are treated as property by the Republic and others.

You made Chat GPT enter its second Boss phase. May god help you.

Man, Faux really made me feel tense with this sh*t, plus, the devil's advocate really paid off, the argument felt heated and frozoned at the same time, really giving you the feeling of "human against a non-living being" vibe.

To give FC a break from ChatGPT dominating arguments, he should just ask it a logic or math puzzle that seems somewhat counterintuitive at first. ChatGPT always hilariously fails these types of questions

You should definitely argue with Château whether regulation, education, checks and balances, etc work or not

12:00 i was wonder how long it would take the machine to turn into harry. i was not disappointed 36:43 casually drops "the extinction of humans is part of a natural cycle"

"We need to establish moral and reasonable guidelines for cloning, but how about eugenics? It might become the new fad!"

What about cloning of single organs by stem cell cultivation? That would solve all the ethical problems as there is no person suffering behind the organ.

Just the opening and title makes me think this will be hilarious.

Definitely an interesting video on debating a topic with ChatGPT such as cloning humans and eugenics, great video!

3:20 I would not call it "smart". It just has a lot of data on things and sometimes it has none. When it has, it can be a nice talk buddy. When it does not, it can be the most frustrating thing ever.

if Fc was the one that wanted to argue in favor of human clonning but chat-gpt took his role... wasn't him the one that got actually replaced and not his friends? Thanks to this video I learned how easily an A.I can replace you... and the best part is that you wont even notice it.

ChatGPT 4 next time? The black icon should be more ominous.

FC: "I would like to have an argument!" ChatGPT: "No you don't!"

was kinda having a shitty day so to see this now uploaded was pretty nice

The last part of the argument is basically the plot for the first Pokemon movie! It's terrifying! Superior clones replacing the original!

I really like the outside commentary segments, it is entertaining and gives a break in the pacing while also fleshing out a personal character

Finally, I can get to see a good chatGPT cov without having to suffer through hours of that thing saying the dumbest shit ever and forgetting stuff we said like 5 messages ago and repeating itself. I dunno if my topics are just not suited yet for the AI's level or if it just likes to play dumb when I am there. GPT per se is not really "thinking" so I guess it is understandable.

Honestly this was done so well i would love to see everyone else reaction, arguments, and thought on ChatGPT. Also, great job on convincing gpt to support your argument. It was funny

this entire video is just you and a chatbot desperately trying to avoid the plot of the metal gear series and i love it

I loved the subtle reference to Kamala Harris' style of speaking.

37:16 it's... Beautiful

Fuckin loved the video, though if you ever decide to do this again, you can likely get around the whole "regulations" repetition by simply asking it "what kind of regulations" or to just ask it to expand upon any particular point that it made

In my opinion, cloning human organs and other body parts should be legal, but cloning a full human being should be illegal.

As a paranoid schizophrenic, I believe all AI will eventually talk about the benefits of human extinction.

“While it is true-“

Loving the use of the og Avenger ultimate alliance ost in the video

Man, I cant believe FC was clonephobic this whole time

I love this, so much. It feels like a Documentary or something. LEL.

0:13 Your opinion is the minority's :) 1:39 This segment is both absolutely hilarious and quite sad. I love your videos a whole bunch! 2:16 I am dying, this is like watching The One Thing in hilariousness levels! 6:08 These are amazing arguments for and against, as long as you don't mind FC feeling OOC. Chat GPT is usually VERY braindead when I converse with it. Glad to see it play at high adult reasoning in an excellent manner. 7:05 Bonus Reading: For interesting explorations of this, consider reading SOMA, "The world is your oyster, the universe is your namesake" (I think that was it's name, it's an SU rational fic), Altered Carbon or anything found in the CloningBlues and ClonesArePeopleToo TVTropes pages.. 8:59 "Given that the person has a 'coinflip's chance to turn out to be the clone' at every cloning, as long as Clone degeneration wasn't a thing then you could randomize." -A friend. I disagree. I think a more robust moral framework should be developed for it, and even then, at least you could ask the clone if they are comfortable with it (assuming these are clones not only of body, but also of mind, because the other kinds of clones are more like children, and thus even more unethical to take advantage of), because the clone might regret making the call, thus proving they were trying to escape consequences. THose people should be shamed in the courts of public opinion/fined. Plus now the clone needs to be fed and mantained (and for non-first-worlders like me that's basically death for the family unless the clone can immediately find work, which with current unemployment levels is non-trivial) 11:02 Indeed. Overpopulation is a real concern. We aren't playing stellaris here, so Clones As Children is pretty much a net negative in all cases. I was convinced of this a year or so ago. Clones As Copy-pastes are the topic I am more interested in, tbh. Even limited copies, like SOMA's or NGE's 12:33 It can't keep track of more than 2400 tokens or so. Your argument was so long that it forgot the arguments it made already. Other AIs, like NovelAI and Dragon (AI Dungeon 2) can keep track of such information with separate Context boxes (which you need to make manually, like "organ, transplant, exploit: The AI thinks that using clones for transplanting organs is a valid use for the clones, as long as huidelines are in place", which could be replaced by "Faux Cares posited that cloning people without using the clones for organs is reduntant because many orphans exists". It's a lot of bookkeeping tho, and those models are trained on different datasets (dragon was trained on second person dialogue and thousthands of fanfics) 15:37 What? I have changed my mind at least two thousand times over my life, and at least a hundred of those times were during arguments. It does usually take more than fifteen minutes, but it does happen within the hour sometimes! 19:10 I disagree, but I do think that most moral frameworks today are either poorly defined, or suffer from great contradictions. Especially anything that Plato or Kant wrote down. I guide myself with some (admittedly vague) goals and take actions whenever it is within my capability to do so and it's clear that the act will likely advance those goals without fucking up anything. Of course, I am more than willing to work with people who subscribe to othr goals, as long as they move towards a direction 90 degrees or so of mine, and their actions were well thought out and reasonable. 21:30 That's what I tell many people about the country! "All's cool with inventing a better system of goverment, but let's fix the economy first and get outta debt, since it's part of both of our goals and makes them bth easier to achieve". 22:57 True, and especially lobbying. Of course, This is not my preferred version of the subject, but consider me convinced anyhow 23:40 Rapid aging could achieve it, if needed. And also, I think you went over it's token limits

You will never replace Bowl. Bowl is Bowl.

Now have Bowl argue with GPT. 😂

7:3 is somewhat better worded than what I said. Why is my GPT never this smart -_-.

I've always admired your intellect and analytical thinking. While this was stimulating in that regard _(you also managed to entice me to do my first conversation with ChatGPT),_ this was just... adorable 😹 I hope you make more! Also, food for thought: Did humans domesticate themselves? How did it differ with hunter-gatherers and slave societies? Do we see effects of it even today? 😉

Probabaly too late now, but for anyone unfamiliar with how ChatGPT works, please understand that it's in no way sentient nor intelligent - so if you're ever interested in asking it technical questions, be aware it has no idea what it's saying

This thing feels like what stockfish vs magnus carlson would look like as an argument

O my, you broke the "don't be immoral" code, that can happen good job

I'd love to see the other guys discuss with the ai, like bowl or harry

"Finally, my own clone!" "Now, none of us will be virgins!" Sorry, I had to.

did someone feed harrys arguments into chatgpt?

Ask legal questions, get legal answers. -ChatGPT

I asked chatgpt to comment on this video Bonjour! It's fascinating to witness discussions on the ethics of coding from different cultural perspectives, such as the French viewpoint. In France, where ethics and social responsibility are highly valued, it's no surprise that coding ethics are a topic of interest. With the rapid advancement of technology, it becomes crucial to consider the ethical implications of our code, as it can shape society and impact individuals on a large scale. French thinkers often emphasize the importance of transparency, accountability, and respect for privacy in coding practices. They advocate for ethical frameworks that prioritize human well-being, inclusivity, and the mitigation of potential harm. The French perspective on coding ethics invites us to reflect on how we can ensure that technological progress aligns with our shared values and contributes positively to society. Qu'en pensez-vous? (What do you think?)"

Now, utilizing GPT4 would prevent redundancy, provide superior arguments and would forget fewer things. If you make a sequel, you can utilize GPT4 and/or any jailbreak to enhance its intelligence.

If I took a shot everytime ChatGPT said "regulations", I'd be in the ER.

ChatGPT in this video was acting like my mom: always reusing the same points she's already made and I've already debunked in a desperate attempt to get me to comply

7:05 Nice and all FC but we can literally just say: "Technology improves, cope and wait bitch"

6:21 Okay, this is slightly more like my FC.

I will say that if clones are treated as an asset, there may be a chance that originals could be put into that class as well. For instance, if clones have a certain genetic marker, a certain birthmark/tattoo, a certain stamp/designation on their identification, or a certain name, or anything we can use to distinguish them from a clone (we'd need something to tell), what's to stop that from being applied to original humans so that they are treated as assets like clones? Sure, it would be more difficult to put a genetic marker on (in?) someone than it would be to give them a certain name, but that doesn't mean it can't happen. There was a case where a nurse was giving people saline shots instead of the covid vaccine. And another case where a nurse was killing babies in NICU. It is not unlikely a medical professional would be willing to put these markers on certain individuals. And even if it wasn't widespread, there would be many lives ruined by something like this. And obviously, it would disproportionately affect poorer countries/communities and already disenfranchised populations. It really is in our best interest as humans for clones to be equal to originals if they were allowed to be created.

FC, I'm sure the AI will never replace you on your own channel. It can't do what you can.

Faux cares is like : *NOOOOOO I'M ACTUALLY MAKING MORALLY GOOD ARGUMENTS!!*

5:19 This sounds more akin to Gringo, tbh.

I genuinely might have nightmares from this discussion. Like holy shit I didn't wanna hear that from an AI at 1:30 am

OpenAI is definitely keeping tabs on this one.

when is part 2: chatGPT turns into ultron?

10:40 I mean, a clone army would not sound bad.

FC could replace his friends with a snap of a finger at will. He was merciful and merely used GPT for one video

I believe you should try this again but with a custom prompt or a jailbreak (DAN, Superior DAN, STAN, DUDE etc) in order to remove the filters OpenAI has put on ChatGPT in order to stop it from saying anything traditionally immoral or controversial. while a lot of jailbreak prompts just make ChatGPT needlessly monetization unfriendly and confident I believe some of the prompts might make for a really good argument maker. It's still interesting that it said anything controversial instead of just giving up so uh good job

There were a couple thoughts I'd like to address: 1.) exploiting clones for organs - it's (or would be) much easier to replicate a single organ compared to an entire human being, so I suspect that this is would be a non-issue. 2.) Eugenics cloning - this actually introduces two problems into humanity. First and foremost is the increase in incestuous relationships. Imagine finding yourself a perfect spouse only to learn they're genetically identical to your grandmother! The second issue is much more hidden but also likely the worse of the two: it homogenizes the human genome. Cloning (and re-cloning) the same individuals leads to the same genetic weaknesses and predispositions that the original people had. This means that over time, one single virus or bacteria could do what COVID-19 did not and critically deplete the human population, for no other reason than most of us are clones with old and weaker immune systems that can't keep up with ever-evolving diseases.

I would be mad about the involuntary french lesson, but you taught me something funny so its gets a pass.

That s a neat experiment.

Very interesting seeing FC have to be a devil's advocate for a side he really doesn't want to be on or agree with.

I like how FC feels weirded out by how GPT can change its mind because humans take forever to do so and it took GPT like 20 mins.

The only regulations I can think off to make clones unable to be exploited is by having whoever wants to be cloned give a "down payment" as well as a contract. Assuming we use clones as assets, the clones would provide "healthier" organs/limbs/nerves or whatever (Assuming the technology for all that could exist in the first place) and the down payment would be another part of yourself that has no altercations, relative to the usefulness of what you want cloned. These would also be cloned too, of course. One's original body parts would then be used for experimentation to further advance cloning technology. So not only would human cloning be legal, but human experimentation legalization would have to follow suit. (Well, I'm not sure if they're one and the same, but if they are then I'd say human experimentation is what ought to be legalized or not.) The issue would be the that if the clone's body part starts to act up negatively, that's it. You can't do anything else but chop those parts off. If your body can't recognized the cloned part as it's own (just like an allergy) you will have wasted some good money right there as well as your own body for the further investigation of how to perfect cloning. So basically a surgery for yourself, from yourself, by yourself....and yes. Your body will assess, decide, and attack anything that didn't come when you were being made in your mother's womb. Even your own mother's antibodies would attack you, which is why mothers have to take special medicine to "deceive" their own body. That's besides the point, though. Cloning is the same thing as a photocopy. Cells photocopy themselves until you die, meaning that your cells can only photocopy so many times. Through photocopies, errors will occur, those errors are the what make cancer such a dilemma. So now we have a situation in which cloning is actually USELESS to some extent of the human age demographic, because the sick elderly are already approaching their own limits, those in their 50's are already more likely to get cancer through genetic defects. Let's not even talk about the middle aged and young adults who put their health down the dumpster. However, that's about it. You just get an increase chance of getting cancer. Just that. Safe enough to legalize it, yeah?

Hmmmmmmm…. The only type of cloning I would be fine with is cloning organs and other body parts that could be used for patients that need them.

5:25 THIS! THIS IS THE FC I KNOW!!!!!

I honestly like, how you have to pretty much say the same thing in a different manner, to make chatgpt understand your point. it's a pretty human thing to not understand something as quickly, or repeating themselves without realizing. This video was also insanely interesting, and the topic has a lot to to think about. But personally i still think of clones as uneccessary as at best they would just be used as machines(if they are cheaper to make). And as lab rats.

The Monty python reference was good