FYI: Ford's marketing term for the mechanical locking feature on the rear differential is "e-locker" (b/c it's electronically, not hydraulically or vacuum actuated, I believe), not to be confused with cross-axle traction control effects, which are all software based and not a mechanical locker...
@Scott-sm9nm2 жыл бұрын
So impressed with Kyle's versatility with off-road vehicle features and the ability for ad hoc commentary. Really coming a long way from his NC days. A reliable source for sure. Hats off to the editing team as well for blending the out-of-vehicle views and interior commentary. Super helpful.
@ThunderandLightningEvPickup20 күн бұрын
What was going on in The NC days? And what did he do before KZfaq?
@plushiie_2 жыл бұрын
like that the spotter can just talk normally because its so quiet xD
@normt4302 жыл бұрын
That's why Silverado EV is coming next year and redesign Lightning in 2025 on TE1 platform. This is a modified F-150 platform where GM Silverado EV BT1 is a EV from ground up next year. Wait for Ford 2025 redesign. The Ford F-150 Lightning is already being promised a redesign for the 2025 model year. Reuters mentioned this when discussing Ford’s production plans for the Lightning.
@andrewashmore80005 ай бұрын
Kyle is super impressed with the mechanical rear diff lock , he mentions it alot , and for good reason , it does a good job. But its interesting too that on the front axle there is a virtual differetial lock too , by utilisation of the brakes and software to prevent wheelspin , not as good as a full mechanical lock , but still is effective to bypass the 3 wheel drive problem when one wheel starts spinning.
@moretoknowshow18872 жыл бұрын
I took a test drive at the Dallas Auto Show last month, those things can haul, not to mention super quiet and stealthy to boot ;)
@BrandonKipp2 жыл бұрын
Instant torque is incredible off-road. I was also impressed with the articulation considering the suspension setup it has.
@carholic-sz3qv2 жыл бұрын
Instant torque is like low range on ICE trucks with excellent torque control…..
@BrandonKipp2 жыл бұрын
@@carholic-sz3qv Yeah, very true
@belavet2 жыл бұрын
The more of these videos I see the more excited I get, but also the more sad. I had my "spot in line" within two minutes of the announcement. Didn't so much as get an invite to order for any wave.
@capt_ramius2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to get my XLT, even if you don’t like it 😂😂 Do you remember what efficiency the truck was getting while you were offroading?
7 ай бұрын
love the F150 lighting and the R1T Rivian
@alexkram2 жыл бұрын
This is the first I've heard that is has an actual mechanical locker. That's great! I assumed it was some sort of virtual ABS "locker". Even in the Pro model, that's crazy good value.
@zachkane73782 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to say it, I know that there probably in every F150 lighting, but I can't wait to see how they do it with the Cyber Truck.
@akeem11h2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, always detailed and balanced. I couldn’t stand TFL truck review, most of the things they complained about the truck was not warranted for light off-road/work truck.
@LanceEJones10 ай бұрын
Agreed; there's been a good amount of unwarranted negativity around this and other EVs. It's a pretty special time to be an auto enthusiast.
@kylepeterson2 жыл бұрын
holy crap the audio is awesome again ! thank you!
@ColJonSquall12 жыл бұрын
I'd love to get the Pro version, but Ford Canada is like "No Pro for you, unless you run a fleet." So the "Base" model for Canada is the $68K XLT.
@delenius12 жыл бұрын
No locking front to rear -- you wouldn't need to since you have two motors, and there is no center diff or other mechanical connection front/rear to lock. The vehicle could just decide to send the same torque front and rear in off road mode. It would be interesting to know if that's what they do, or some other split, or dynamically adjusted somehow. Thanks for a great video as always.
@borisdemelo2 жыл бұрын
The reason a locking center diff works is because the wheels are physically unable to move at different speeds to each other because the locker prevents it. If you have different grip levels front-rear and send the same power/torque to both motors, you’ll get different wheel speeds and might start digging yourself in. So like Kyle said, they have to very precisely measure grip levels to decide the right amount power and brakes to each wheel.
@NHTacoma2 жыл бұрын
@@borisdemelo More specifically a locking center diff forces the front and rear driveshafts to turn at the same rate. With open diffs at the front and rear axles, wheel speeds are able to vary wildly - e.g. a locked center diff with open front and rear differentials will, when placed in a cross-axle situation with one rear wheel in the air and one front wheel in the air, result in the airborne wheels free spinning and the wheels on the ground doing nothing.
@commanderroddi77422 жыл бұрын
I love the Ford BLue! I used to have XLT F-150 Ecoboost that would do Okay in things like that, with a lot of work... so, not so Okay I guess. Butt I wanted a Rivian, gave up on it b/c it will cost clost to $100K, and while I have a Jeep Wrangler RUbicon 4xe (PHEV) now, I miss having the bed and space of the F-150. My F-150 was black, but I ove the Blue! also, WHile I keep wanting to get teh XLT which make sense, I could only if you could add the pano roof to it! (I had that on my XLT, and LOVED IT!. Yeah, think while its not as hard core as the Rivian, I think if they offered a FX4 Lightning! wow! Price makes sense though. I paid like $57K for a 2019 XLT crew w/2.7L Ecoboost 4WD, and what they are asking for the Lightning mkes sense to me. the 4xe Jeep is like $64K as I bought it. Just make sure it has the tow pack, the roof, and a good sound system, and the Lariat sounds good at even $80K! (I'd still try to get XLT if I could add pano roof, tow & sound system). THink they may make a Bronco EV? :) I know Jeep is working o0n a Wrangler EV>
@carperdiem87547 ай бұрын
Dude slap some Rivian 34” tires on a lighting and have yourself a nice little sleeper offroader here
@jaimeduncan6167 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Raptor :I keep wondering why Ford did not Target the Raptor. The standard F-150 lighting has the problem of towing. The raptor is a lifestyle Truck more suitable for electric as. the Rivian and the Hummer show. Maybe the software was not ready.
@StarGateSG72 жыл бұрын
I am DEFINITELY looking forward to al ALL-EV Ford F150 Raptor model with the super long suspension and 37 inch tires on it! One thing Ford MUST DO is increase driving range even if you have to put a big battery slab in the back bed. I know that much longer lasting Aluminum-Sulfur batteries are coming soon but in the meantime Ford MUST INCREASE driving range to about 600 Miles+ (960 km) by using a slab-type truck-bed battery on any new F150 models. V
@LarryRichelli2 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting in a few years when people start building lift kits for these things like they have in the ICE f150's
@jimji27742 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing the offroad comparison between this and the Rivian which does not have a mechanical locker as I understand it.
@stevemattson48632 жыл бұрын
Unit your stuck and the battery life is to low and goes into limp mode😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@martinadamski9452 жыл бұрын
Ford a good time "Slam on the accelerator pedal" - no typos here
@markanthony32752 жыл бұрын
Who supplied the diesel truck and trailer so you could make it out to the trail and back?
@1Jbeats2 жыл бұрын
This truck is already nearly 100K in anything above the average trim with extended battery. And what does Kyle want? "I need a lift kit raptor version". Dude get real
@tazeat2 жыл бұрын
You should really link this video from the other lightning videos, I didn't even know this channel existed. I was wondering if you got to do the off-road course, I watched TFLs the other day.
@harrybartlett40202 жыл бұрын
Wonder if they will sell them in the uk.
@teslaowner90202 жыл бұрын
You drive this off road much better than Sandy Munro drives his Rivian! He could take a few lessons from you!
@JayMcKinsey2 жыл бұрын
A software problem is figuring out how fast you are spinning is crazy hard? That just sounds ridiculous.
@commanderroddi77422 жыл бұрын
imagine this: Black truck, and if you could "smoke" that lightbar (whit part around lights)... make whoe truck look black. How sweet would that look? start working on it aftermarket folks! :) I really did love my F-150 XLT w/black appearance pack. :)
@runs_on_coffee2 жыл бұрын
Why don't they have some sort of Traction control. I definitely want it to apply that extra power to the right wheel when on ice or trying to drive through a muddy field or pasture. slipping a wheel means burying your truck on boggy ground or a muddy pasture haul then your definitely stuck and walking.
@czh68312 жыл бұрын
3:42 The traction control did help him pull the truck out of the hole, he was just trying to compare with rear lock diff and without rear lock diff, it's harder but traction control did work
@czh68312 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i7N3ks-eu6-WoJ8.html This guy did the same thing on the same spot, TC did its job without locking rear diff
@loriallen672 жыл бұрын
You aren’t in south Texas. You are in central Texas.
@Senerian2 жыл бұрын
How many RV parks, Nation/State parks, Campgrounds etc have charging stations? Wonder what those lines will be like and how long it will take to charge up when these are all over the camp grounds? This may bring asphalt and concrete to the last reaming green spaces that mean something in order to provide that infrastructure for all the long time charging that will need to be taking place. I hope a ton of patience is included.
@lesstevens23702 жыл бұрын
Well here in canada lots of rv parks have full hook ups you can plug this into any power source 120v 220v or dcfc 400v it doesn't have to be a specific charger it does come with adapters like most evs do
@ZenEndurance6 ай бұрын
One of the first things I ever saw plugged in the first time I ever RV'd overnight to a campground was a Tesla car plugged in to the pole next to me. So if it's got power for plugging in your RV, there's also power to plug in your truck. May not be lots, but it exists by default.
@pinball162 жыл бұрын
seems like almost centered on may of those rocks, can you increase clearance? Wish it wasn't a prepared course.
@Xyler942 жыл бұрын
Gotta remember, lots of car journalists aren't Off-Road people, and the Lightning isn't a dedicated off-road vehicle. This can do light off-roading if you need it to, but if you're gonna go off-road, buy a Bronco.
@ZenEndurance6 ай бұрын
Kyle said it - it needs a dedicated button for locking diff and more ground clearance and you have a killer vehicle. Ram will probably do that. They always take what Ford does, find the stuff it lacks, and then add those features. My Ram will allow you to put on the rear locker even in 2WD. Why? Probably cuz Ford won't. lol.
@tommywieringo66402 жыл бұрын
What I would like too see is how much battery power is used when towing a 9000 lb travel trailer.
@goldenretriever64402 жыл бұрын
I just want to see an electric raptor that would be sick
@ZenEndurance6 ай бұрын
You're in luck. There's a video of one released just a few days ago.
@98.infinity2 жыл бұрын
What lift for 35s no rub
@tpike322 жыл бұрын
Is this the same San Antonio track that every KZfaqr did this EV review. Yup .
@CryptoJoeTrading2 жыл бұрын
Great video Kyle!
@ardenthebibliophile2 жыл бұрын
How is it difficult to calculate wheel speed when they have a sensor to measure it?
@adriaanduminy29102 жыл бұрын
Not hard to calculate, it's hard to match the speeds that it's calculating. Determining how much power is needed to align all four wheels' speed while they are slipping is a very difficult calculation to do. Think that's what Kyle is referring to.
@kylepeterson2 жыл бұрын
"off road trail" ... issa dirt road, homie
@rzu71202 жыл бұрын
What is the price of this XLT?
@tpp51512 жыл бұрын
Can anyone speak to the long term efficiency of electric car motors? If you have an old cell phone you'll notice that the older it gets the less it holds a charge, it lasts shorter and shorter every month. I'm wondering to what degree that will happen to these cars. Gasoline engines also decrease in efficiency as they age but not in the same way. Not ripping on electric cars, just curious.
@tpike322 жыл бұрын
They do have battery degradation. I don’t know how much. You can never get real answers. I think . It’s 10 years .?
@chrisgray69882 жыл бұрын
Musk has missed the opening gate...people remember first
@carholic-sz3qv2 жыл бұрын
Does it have something like crawl control!? 😂 😂 I mean no pedal input driving like Toyota!?
@Hanibul_Lecktor2 жыл бұрын
Or like the Bronco or Ranger terrain control? Yes, no touch pedal other than to brake/stop. Much smoother than the Toyota version.
@carholic-sz3qv2 жыл бұрын
@@Hanibul_Lecktor lol….. have you checked the latest Toyota crawl control!? Or are you just not well informed!? Toyota was the very first to have such features almost a decade ago, just like with turn assist….
@SylasXavier Жыл бұрын
Its not a real world lets go to the beach with soft send.
@lui85862 жыл бұрын
A rear wheel drive can do that stupid course.
@dansdiesel7672 жыл бұрын
This is so stupid and a vw bug could off road like you guys are doing