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I have no idea how they're doing it, but the Innocn 27G1S is an insanely fast gaming monitor. The response times easily beat many fast IPS monitors and even can compete with TN panel monitors. This is one of the best 240 Hz, 1440p monitors for FPS games.
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Index:
00:00 - Not all VA monitors are created equal
00:54 - Specs
01:49 - Brightness & Contrast
02:25 - HDR
02:49 - Color Accuracy
04:04 - Recommended Settings
04:13 - Ergonomics & Design
05:11 - Response Times & Ghosting
07:33 - Backlight Strobing
07:56 - Adaptive Sync
08:37 - Display Lag
08:48 - Is it good for competitive gaming?!
09:40 - Innocn 27G1S vs IPS Monitors

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@thomasson9389 9 ай бұрын

Thankyou, techless for reviewing this, Im currently in China and this monitor was so popular since its an excellent fast va monitor, Im actually ordering this monitor today and only thing I missed was calibrated icc profile, So now Im waiting to try this profile and how its looks on monitor , Noted : I have used va with 8ms response time before everthing is fine and its look a lot easier on eyes than any other ips I have used, the only pain point was its produce blur when moving fast even on AAA game and Fps, So this is my second Va monitor Im willing to try out.

@Renovatio2 8 ай бұрын

If only they or someone else made a 32" or their 39" model with this panel I'd be completely sold. Great review. Subbed.

@myquietreviewsfeaturingc.t9354 8 ай бұрын

This brother is the truth when it comes to monitor reviews 👍🏿

@TechOtaku86 9 ай бұрын

Might actually grab one myself cuz it seems soo good

@DankJr 7 ай бұрын

This video was very helpful with my purchase.

@djvidual8288 9 ай бұрын

While I think that we neccessarily don't progress as much in other sectors, the monitor market is highly competetive. Not only in general technology but also in prices. Something I would dream about with GPUs.

@The11devans 9 ай бұрын

That is... absolutely insane performance for a VA panel. Do you know anything else about this panel tech, and if the panel is used in any other monitors? I'm shocked I haven't heard anything about this model before

@bosiorne2292 6 ай бұрын

It’s just the manufacture who take the time to adjust overdrive to get great response time and chose high quality va pannel

@arsenvain 8 ай бұрын

Hey, thank you for the review! Would you recommend buy this monitor instead of Alienware AW2723df?

@MsJerem741 4 ай бұрын

Hi, I've just received mine this afternoon, and I'm absolutely having a blast from the upgrade compared to my 1080p monitor, so thank you a lot for your video ! Though, I do have one interrogation... how did you turn off the red leds on both sides of this monitor please ? I didn't find any manual on the internet ahah

@Ser_VD 9 ай бұрын

Thnx for the video! So which monitor will be good for single player games?

@radosuaf 9 ай бұрын

Why AOC AG275QXN and AG275QZN were not tested? This one is really difficult to get and the brand does not give too much confidence about after sales service.

@neox2074 9 ай бұрын

Gutes Video! Welche Tastatur benutzt du in dem Video?

@Dantido 9 ай бұрын

Hey there, techless! Sorry for this unrelated comment, but I gotta ask, are you still using the KTC H27T22? My unit has recently acquired a dead pixel after 10 months of use, or at least that's what it seems...

@WrexBF 9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, that adaptive sync issue is a deal breaker.

@Stoogie 9 ай бұрын

Disagree, I have never once used gsync since my first gsync monitor in 2015. having constant time between frames feels better for me and its best to have it off for competitive

@James-cr8mt 9 ай бұрын

@@Stoogie its not designed for competitive. its designed for lower fps games that cant hit the monitors refresh rate.

@despooked 9 ай бұрын

@@Stoogie Playing without freesync is impossible. Everything is trembling, tearing and juddering.

@_Platinum- 9 ай бұрын

I agree 100% if you disable adaptive sync (G-Sync or FreeSync) you get a lot of tearing when gaming !

@Stoogie 9 ай бұрын

Back in the olden days we used 60hz constantly and had low fps all the time, guess I'm used to the tearing even on very low fps, doesn't bother me for demanding single player titles. @@despooked

@inceptionsd 3 ай бұрын

This is a pretty fascinating find. Did you manage to enter service menu and check which panel it's using? Since it's an OEM panel manufacturer for multiple brands, there is a chance it ends up in some other, more reputable monitors?

@despooked 9 ай бұрын

I read somewhere that the flickering goes away if you set it at 165 hz. I wonder if it's true?

@talhazengin4601 9 ай бұрын

Can you review the LG - 45gr95qe model? And OLED and Curved models like this please.

@srvuk 9 ай бұрын

On the surface, for the mentioned price, it looks pretty good overall. But the affiliate link went nowhere useful and the regular price of this seems to be in the $450 area, which is rather less value.

@lucasgalen3101 9 ай бұрын

Hey man is this monitor easy on the eyes? I get some real bad eye strain from IPS so I'm hoping this monitor will be good.

@daedalusdenton9144 2 ай бұрын

A big thing missing is the 60hz response times. Many console games will lock in on 60hz and then there's 24fps content like movies. There's plenty of displays that do good from 120hz up but once dropped to 60hz the input lag shoots above 20ms and the response times triple.

@sydneyily 8 ай бұрын

should i get this or m27qx? i love watching content and also playing competitively. from what i understand the va panel is nice for consuming content but idk how it stacks up with the m27qx

@taras_fit 6 ай бұрын

I’d like to know also before I make a decision

@mrxcs 9 ай бұрын

Didn't Samsung sold the patents of their fast VA a few months back? It even has the same problems.

@marzok9632 9 ай бұрын

Sehr interessant👍.....es gibt ja bereits länger ein paar weitere "H"VA-Panels von CSOT, welche ebenfalls diese Schaltzeiten erreichen, aber bisher waren diese immer curved. (z.B. im Lenovo G32qc-30) --> bist du irgendwie ins Factory Menu gekommen oder kannst INNOCN fragen, welches Panel verbaut ist? Wäre sehr interessant und hilfreich zu wissen, ob es sich hierbei ebenfalls um ein HVA handelt oder ob die VAs von AU Optronics mittlerweile auch auf diesem Level angekommen sind....

@techlessYT 9 ай бұрын

Ins factory menu bin ich leider nicht gekommen, aber mangels Alternativen muss das wohl ein Panel aus der SG2701G02 Serie von CSOT sein würde ich sagen.

@marzok9632 9 ай бұрын

@@techlessYT Alles klar....stimmt ich hatte im Hinterkopf, dass es auch von AUO Flat Panel gibt, aber dem ist ja gar nicht so. Leider wird bei Panellook (oder anderen Datenbanken) nie alles gelistet. Dann gehört diese CSOT Serie also auch zu den HVAs, was super ist👍 Mittlerweile gibt's auch nen Koorui, der dann wohl das gleiche nutzt. Allerdings ist es etwas ungewöhnlich, da die HVAs in Sachen Farbräumen eigentlich etwas besser performen. Vllt. einfach ein unterdurchschnittliches Exemplar. Wirklich ein großer Schritt der hier von Samsung bzw. CSOT in Sachen VA geschafft wurde.

@juanblanco7898 9 ай бұрын

@@techlessYT Upd: Ah, so that goes out of the window, I guess. Is it possible to change RGB values through the factory/service menu, by any chance? It is on my BenQ, which allows me to tweak the channels in sRGB mode even though they are locked in the normal OSD interface.

@anthony2558 5 ай бұрын

Can you review the new for 2024 Innocn 27G1R Plus 1440p 180hz. Thank you.

@jndq Ай бұрын

Hoping you could check out their 27g1r plus model which is a fast ips 2k 180hz 1ms and 5ms gtg monitor.

@shulehr 8 ай бұрын

if only this was sold in my country...

@elpituyt 9 ай бұрын

Acer have some 250hz va monitors should check those out

@GRAVELPI7 8 ай бұрын

Hallo! Erstmal vor ab, ich finde deine Arbeit / Videos bemerkenswert. Aber ich hätte eine bitte an dich: Wäre es möglich, dass Du ein Profil vom Huawei MateView GT34 Standard machen kannst? Der Monitor ist richtig gut, aber komischerweise findet man zu dem gar nichts. Es gibt auf einer französischen Seite zwar ein ICC-Profil, aber da werden keine zusätzlichen Einstellungen genannt, die ich am Monitor selbst noch vornehmen muss. (Rot-Grün-Blau-Werte, Helligkeit, Kontrast usw.) Ich wäre dir sehr dankbar! In diesem Sinne, bleib wie Du bist. 🤗

@benbreshears2812 6 ай бұрын

It's not getting good reviews on amazon and is no longer available.

@GregKealey 6 ай бұрын

Can you review Samsung 57”?

@Gergo049 3 ай бұрын

Would be great if more monitors like this popped up with different specs. I choose IPS because of VA smearing, but I always wish for better contrast ratio and dark room performance.

@lukecleland9558 7 ай бұрын

am i correct in assuming that display lag and input lag are the same but just worded slightly differently? If so, how is your ms time incredibly low compared to the yt channel TV Chef and his review which was around 20ms?

@techlessYT 7 ай бұрын

TV Chef is measuring at 60 Hz, which is expected to have much more lag than the max refresh rate. My measurements were done at 240 Hz in the middle of the screen.

@ZimmerZirwes 6 ай бұрын

Mal eine Frage: Was genau meinst du mit "adaptive sync"? Bzw. warum spielt es eine Rolle bei niedrigeren FPS? Den Zusammenhang verstehe ich hier nicht genau. Ist damit dann auch Freesync gemeint? Ich suche einen VA-Monitor für ein triple-Screen-Setup. Ich fahre Sim Racing. Meine Grafikkarte würde ca. 70-100 FPS in den Spielen generieren. Heißt das in dem Zusammenhang hier, dass ich dann flickering hätte? Oder kann man adaptive sync und freesync parallel schalten?

@roburritoDX 4 күн бұрын

There's an updated model of this, using an IPS panel now. I was wondering if you could check it out.

@gautampratap1345 9 ай бұрын

please test Gigabyte G24F 2, I need your help, the colors are too saturated, I hope you will provide good optimal settings for it that can make it color accurate.

@Djare915 7 ай бұрын

I am also into that problem!There isn't any calibrated profile online except for the Monitors Unboxed payed one!Monitor not too good so I doubt he will review it...

@Nightmare-yg1hd 2 ай бұрын

is the 27g1s better than odyssey g6? i dont know wich to chose

@ricki_daynes 5 ай бұрын

So u need 240hz for va to clear from ghosting

@RoiPourpre 5 ай бұрын

The sad part is that the screen is no longer available anywhere and no longer seems to be produced... The screen won't have lived long... Unfortunately :(

@techlessYT 5 ай бұрын

Yes, very unfortunate. Refurbished ones are still available, but I guess not for long. I hope we get a worthy successor soon...

@Satvrnine 2 ай бұрын

If I had to guess, the QC was causing them to hemorrhage money. I had three 27G1S and every single one of them glitched to the point they were unusable at 240hz when there were densely grouped pixels alternating black/white. I'd be willing to bet this is a 165hz panel that they just slapped a 240hz overlock onto in FW, and a lot of their units just couldn't handle it.

@eekee3 Ай бұрын

they're an OEM brand, I'd assume other 240hz 1440p like from koorui is the exact same panel

@moe8935 9 ай бұрын

Imagine this panel in glossy with the upcoming 1560 zone backlight by LG and local dimming algorithm tuned by Sony. *_*

@eckomind 9 ай бұрын

I got this monitor for 250 dollars. I did not expect much from the monitor but it really is as good as he says in the video. It's really awesome for gaming as long as you don't care about HDR. HDR is the only thing it can't do properly. Otherwise, this monitor is a better choice than OLED if you don't want to worry about burn in.

@raptorhacker599 9 ай бұрын

wow its a pretty good deal for 250 bucks.

@wilsonsoh1604 8 ай бұрын

hi may i ask where u bought this monitor from? was it from the official website?

@ij6708 8 ай бұрын

It's a good VA monitor but most definitely not a better choice than OLED overall. It however does brilliantly in perfecting a cheaper panel technology at that price point

@SweetenedCondensedMilk 4 ай бұрын

you seem to be reviewing this monitor in its 1080p 240hz variant because you specify 240hz and the other model that is 1440p is 180hz. is the 180hz model just as good for ghosting/smearing?

@Pang-nn4eq 8 ай бұрын

Are IPS or VA monitors better for code editing or text writing?

@Djare915 7 ай бұрын

VA has better contrast so go VA but always check the reviews also.That thing particularly depends of subpixel layout of the panel!

@kool_btn 7 ай бұрын

amazon link keeps bring me to a diffferent monitor INNOCN 27G1G 27' instead of G1S

@techlessYT 7 ай бұрын

Oh I need to fix that... Which country?

@kool_btn 7 ай бұрын

Usa

@Daishi0861 7 ай бұрын

it's a shame this panel can't be shipped to australia, it neatly ticks all the boxes that i want from a monitor and has basically no downsides while also being cheaper. the G7 is obscenely expensive compared to this & has that awful curve.

@alexusman 9 ай бұрын

For me adaptive sync is not as big of a deal as broken HDR. Would be a nice main monitor. For adaptive sync there are IPS monitors already with worse blacks.

@naamadossantossilva4736 9 ай бұрын

HDR introduces lag on LCDs,it's only usable on OLEDs.

@displaytalk 9 ай бұрын

@@naamadossantossilva4736 that's only true if the monitor has local dimming, which this doesn't.

@naholix 9 ай бұрын

Ich suche einen Monitor für Single Player Games die ehr im Dunkeln spielen wie Resident Evil und sowas. Der hier wurde ja leider ehr ausgeschlossen aber gibt es noch ne Empfehlung ? IPS sind ja leider immer Kontrast arm und OLED recht Preisintensiv.

@MKR3238 9 ай бұрын

Bei dunklen Horror Games führt einfach kein Weg an OLED vorbei. Es ist einfach ne komplett andere Liga, bin nach über 1 Jahr immer noch völlig hin und weg von der Bildqualität und HDR

@JanM2 8 ай бұрын

Odyssey G7 vielleicht? Weiß nicht, ob da Freesync probleme macht. Sonst VA mit ghosting oder OLED füe 750€ min. Mehr hat der Markt leider einfach immer noch nicht zu bieten

@Agp1597 2 ай бұрын

There's something weird INNOCN now shows this monitor lik a IPS panel ,Do you know what is happening here ?

@hessmo 4 ай бұрын

Does anyone know if the monitor has the ability to set the sharpness individually?

@Satvrnine 4 ай бұрын

You can set sharpness in the OSD, yes.

@turboallen 8 ай бұрын

Crazy specs, unfortunately unavailable anywhere close to my country without paying big import taxes etc.

@HMaximiano 2 ай бұрын

Odyssey g7 qled best???

@Agp1597 9 ай бұрын

If the monitor is at 300 or lower is a good buy , but if it goes higher Innocn can keep it

@yokanshree4621 Ай бұрын

How does it affect your eyes

@jazz9fr 9 ай бұрын

A 240Hz VA panel that is as fast as IPS? Count me in! *gets to the adaptive sync part of the vid* Yeah I'm out...

@utilitymuffin. 9 ай бұрын

my unit doesnt have the issue

@juanblanco7898 9 ай бұрын

I wonder how it performs at lower refresh rates. It could be way worse at 120 and 60 Hz, obvious frametime ramifications aside. It picked my interest, but since I'm a console only pleb I have no access to both HFR and software calibration.

@2chicuz225 9 ай бұрын

Is It better to upgrade from 1080p to 1440p (both 165 hz) or to upgrade from a 1080p 165hz to 240hz?

@drthbn 9 ай бұрын

Depends on the games you play. If you play e sports titles a lot go for 240hz otherwise go for 1440p.

@2chicuz225 9 ай бұрын

@@drthbn i do mainly play valorant but i also use the monitor for normal stuff. I Heard the Jump from 165 ti 240hz Is bearly noticable.. so i was wondering of for the same price the 1440p upgrade would be genrally Better for gaming also.

@GlacikingTheIceColdKing 9 ай бұрын

@@2chicuz225 if ur not super competitive just go for 1440p, it'll give u a better experience because it looks new compared to just going to 240 hz from 165 because it's not that noticable, I tried one, used it like 2-3 hours, sure when going back to 165 it feels a tad big weird but from 165 to 240 it's not noticable, unlike the smoothness from 60/75 to 144

@razmann4k 9 ай бұрын

@@2chicuz225As long as your GPU just good enough to make 1440p fun.

@drthbn 9 ай бұрын

@@2chicuz225144hz to 240hz was noticeable for me but not as huge as 1080p to 1440p.

@shanksisnoteventhatstrongbruh 9 ай бұрын

if the VRR flickering wasn't a thing i would 100% get this as an all purpose gaming monitor... FUCK!!!!

@utilitymuffin. 9 ай бұрын

my unit doesnt flicker!

@DKTD23 8 ай бұрын

probably more of a YMMV

@g1zmo85 9 ай бұрын

How are blacks on VA? Are they better than IPS which are more gray than black?

@highdeff17 9 ай бұрын

VA Panels have much better blacks than IPS, but the tradeoff is more ghosting and less color accuracy and vibrance. This monitor he reviewed is a standout for VA panels because it has really good ghosting and is comparable to an IPS in that category. Still doesn’t have the color accuracy, vibrance, or viewing angles of an IPS

@g1zmo85 9 ай бұрын

@@highdeff17 perfectly explained, thank you!

@highdeff17 9 ай бұрын

@@g1zmo85 No prob!

@gabrielearcari 9 ай бұрын

please review the LG 27GR75Q, it’s so cheap rn but nobody talks about it…

@megaforce47 9 ай бұрын

aww hell nah i just bought a lg 27gp850 for 30 bucks less than the 240 hz model fml

@dominicstocker5144 2 ай бұрын

At least you can count on it’s VRR features, the one in the video seems to have problems in this regard

@user-fq3ie5gz2h 9 ай бұрын

So it a cut down Odyssey G7..? Not as premium but the price is right.

@TennessseTimmy 7 ай бұрын

Okay dude, please actually test tearing and if adaptive sync is required. Trust me, over 144hz, tearing is not visible in most games, except OSU!

@domri4517 9 ай бұрын

man... i want to buy this one, but i'm too afraid that they will change the panel and it will be worse 😭

@villekoskela9073 9 ай бұрын

Then just return it?

@letix6220 9 ай бұрын

bro what lmao

@marekogarek9499 9 ай бұрын

how is ghosting at lower Hz

@villekoskela9073 9 ай бұрын

There are pictures of lower hz too in this video noob

@Tim4V 9 ай бұрын

Samsung Odyssey G6 27 inch costs the same money, at least here in Germany. And looks a better option.

@GameplayUnboxed 9 ай бұрын

1st

@CristianBalahura 9 ай бұрын

2end

@saricubra2867 6 ай бұрын

It doesn't beat a CRT at 60Hz 😂

@godofdeath8785 5 ай бұрын

I mean who cares about crt in 2024 though

@saricubra2867 5 ай бұрын

@@godofdeath8785 The people who really care about motion clarity and image quality.

@riba2233 Ай бұрын

@@saricubra2867 clarity ok, but image quality roflolmao :DDDD

@saricubra2867 Ай бұрын

@@riba2233 I have a true 4:3 1440p CRT.

@saricubra2867 Ай бұрын

@@riba2233 CRTs don't have aliasing as well, seriously, their image quality can't be surpassed.

@waltuh6984 9 ай бұрын

only silver lmao

@randy89555 9 ай бұрын

Ye, it's slow, that's why black smearing

@MKR3238 9 ай бұрын

commenting before watching the video, nice self own

@RowanHD15 8 ай бұрын

MSI 275CQRXF Please

@lionelm62 8 ай бұрын

It's good at response time, but horizontal scanline issues at max refresh rate