I am so bad at telling people to like or comment, so here is the reminder if you enjoyed the video 😅 Also at 1:20 there's some missing text I forgot to add in. It should have said: "There have been many disagreements on this issue across multiple creators". My B Thanks everyone.

A 4090 is literally a mortgage payment for some people!🤣🤣

I have an asus tuff 4090 I love it but in all reality I'm still healing from my kidney transplant donation

I got a 4090 at launch, and have paired it up with a 13700k as well as an ultrawide oled monitor. It's actually insane.

Turns out the secret to me enjoying PC gaming as much as console gaming was to have a card where I could just turn everything to ultra and start playing without ever bothering to tune my settings.

I bought a 1080ti w/ i7/7700k back 7 years ago or sumthn. And thats how I plan to purchase when it comes to teh 5090. Even if its $2500 and lasts 5 years. Thats $500/year I spent to damn near guarantee I wont have to address upgrading anytime soon. I have a motto. "Buy once, cry once." And it rarely lets me down

Needed it to run a 7680x2160 monitor for sim racing. I don't feel lucky or blessed lol, I work my ass off, and spent 2 decades being working poor before my endeavors paid off enough that I can easily buy a $2400 gpu (white rog strix...) in my mid 40s... I also drive a mid tier pickup with 200k miles. Buddy of mine spent more on Taylor Swift tix for his wife and daughter lol.... and that's 1 night.

Re: 12V connector: If you didn't feel or hear a click, it's not seated.

I think we're getting to the point of diminished returns as these cards become gargantuan. A new series of cards every two years doesn't allow enough time to shrink the die sizes. Pretty soon, we're all going to he buying cases according to how large the GPU is going to be

I went from a GTX 680 which I used for 7 years to a GTX 1660 Super that I used for 3 years and currently I have an RTX 4080 because I saw a deal which was just a no brainer. Combined with the R7 7700X and 32GB DDR5 6000MHz RAM. This 4080 already is just... wow. I can play every game I ever wanted to play on max. settings on high fps. I couldn't even imagine the power of a 4090. 😅 so yeah, nobody really needs a 4090.

No such things as too much power with VR. We are still probably 3 graphics card generations behind unlocking just the current VR head sets potential.

I've been struggling to find a decent video talking about owning a 4090 for the long run so thanks for this, i'm looking into grabbing one of these bad boys over the 4080 because of the 24gb of vram it offers so i might be able to render 1 or 2 pixels more in premiere, but after you said to wait i'm curious do you think i should wait even for video editing purposes?

Just out of curiosity, what game is that footage from? Where people are melting after being killed.

After owning a 4090 for 6 months, all I can say is that if you can afford a 4090, you should get one.

it would help to also focus at what monitors one is using, as to where i am gaming on a 57" ultra wide with over 16 million pixels, where I need a RTX 4090 (which I have and love it)....

Hi there ! Can I know the wallpaper name ?

How much does it add to your bill. I heard it only add 10 or 11 dollars to a bill

Lenovo has had (they go in and out of stock on it; just checked and it was currently in stock when I posted, it was out of stock this morning) the MSI Liquid Suprim X 4090 for $1,749 and discount codes can be applied. For me this brought the price down to $1,525. The liquid cooled card is much smaller (in width it is only up to two slots versus something more like 4 in width). So, those factors together ended up moderating (somewhat) a couple of the drawbacks mentioned in the video (though the price is still very steep).

My Asus strix 4090 OC is working vore 13 months with no problems at all. Using a 4K 120 hertz 55inch LG TV as monitor...

Out of all the cards I own and have own I love the 4090, it's so powerful but also quite efficient, however that connector is going to be something that will more than likely devalue these cards or make it a headache for every owner. I got my TUF 4090 day one and last week after 18 months of use the connector melted on it. I had to document and show it because it melted on both sides GPU and PSU side. The PSU side got fused and couldnt be unplugged. I work with high and low voltage electricity always plugged mine fully. I think what happens over time and this is probably unavoidable is that due to the high current going through the wires the plug gets warm and cold, warm and cold and the thin pins expand and contract increasing resistance in the connection and heat until it escalates one day. I've heard every theory from user error to plugs being rated only for 20 or 30 plugins per cable. It's just a bad design period. I like the idea of one plug to rule them all but any replacement of an already established proven method should be an improvement. This connector isn't over the standard 8 pin connector. I've abused those connectors plugging and unplugging them so much without any issues ever whereas with this one it's almost a given it will one day fail and now I cant leave my computer to render and walk away. That's a huge side effect imo.

What mount do you use for your monitors?

Awesome video! Waiting to upgrade my 2080ti. Have been thinking of getting an used 4090 but I might wait for the 5090 instead. If you game, and edit video on the same machine. What type of driver are you running (studio/gaming)? Also it looks like you are running davinci? Is it utilizing the GPU to boost the editing/rendering performance?

On older cards, one doesn't loose much performance just by setting power to 66%. Would that be an option here?

Hi Techwando, I m from indonesia, and i want to buy zotac gpu, do zotac suc? should i buy another brand?; btw nice video...

I can confirm that the worry about the cable is a thing. I turn off my PSU and disconnect my PC every day because I don’t trust it when I go off to work or something.

I feel like the limitations of number of screens is an issue not being covered. I can only run 4k.240hz & 4k.144hz before i hit my screen output caps.

Been so busy I haven't been able to watch any content. Im so happy that you are still going strong. Your channel is such a good watch. Very informative and entertaining.

But how will the 4090 hold up to skyrim delta plus loyalty addition in 2030?

I have the Suprim Liquid 4090 and just recently it started making clicking noises. I was super scared it might be the connector. I run my card overclocked all the time before this but now I run at stock instead of OC and the clicking noise stopped but im still scared AF my pc might burn my house down.

Did you guys here the new RTX 4090 song The Power Unleashed?

I honestly went with the 7900 XTX than a rtx 4090 mainly due to the 12 volt connector. My co-worker's MSI rtx 4090 connector melted on him. That pretty much gave me my decision to go with the 7900 XTX. This is coming from a guy that has purchased mainly Nvidia cards - 98000 GT Ultimate, gtx 660, gtx 770, gtx 970, 1080 and now on my 1st AMD card - 7900xtx.

whats the website with the price tracking?

Undervolt is the thing to do. I’m not conservative. Running on 750w psu too.. UV at .95v is the key to stock or better performance but 75-100 less watts. So 300-350w max. Oc memory by 800-1000 and do the curve oc. There’s a few videos on it. Very simple. Very effective. Can go as low at .9v without much loss. So probably 250-275w. And it’s insane still. Maybe 5-8% loss. My card doesn’t break 60c ever on 50% fan speed. Tuf non oc

Owning a high end card (7900xtx) for the first time I definitely developed thoughts about GPU maintenance and its longevity ("I invested so much, maybe I should change thermal pads at some point" etc.). The 4090 is in its own league but making such an investment comes with the expectation of having a free of issues, high quality experience in every way and a usage of at least 5 years. The reality is obviously different and I feel like the past 2 gens high end cards are more experiments than established, well tested products. Thats why I went all in and got the nitro+ top of the line model, just to minimize any quality issues..So far its been amazing, but not everyones GPU works well in their system. That said, this is a very nice review! I had to make my own (fairly short) researches and adjustments to make my 7900xtx work without issues (so far) and I hope u can enjoy your 4090 for as long as possible.

been using the corsair 12vhpwr cable since I got my 4090 and i have yet to have any issues thankfully

9:45 this is my biggest problem with building my new pc. my wish since about 2014 is to play in 4k max res with 240fps. How much years doest it take to achieve that? I mean 4k isnt new anymore. I just want to have a freaking beast to play with. not to think about upgrading every year so i could hold that standart.

I just purchased a i9-13900k cpu and will be slowly buying components around that. I'm estimating I'll be complete around september. So I was thinking about the 4080 super but I'll see. Probably be my last component to complete the build.

I have a 3080 12gb and other than alan wake 2. there have been no games ive played over the last year that have made me want to upgrade. everything runs at 1440p smoothly

I have a massive 3080 and the temps are so low and everything runs perfectly. I actually underclock the thing because I found that I never max it out.

i want the card but thinking of waiting for the 50 series to release then maybe grab a nice deal. it is definitely a long wait but i think anyone can handle that. ill just enjoy my 2070 for the time being lol.

How much money did the 4090 add to the power bill? Like $100-200?

I use a CORSAIR Premium 600W PCIe 5.0 / Gen 5 12VHPWR PSU Cable for my Gigabyte RTX 4090 Gaming OC and haven't had any issues what so ever. The plug has a snug fit and connects with a very audible click. It also uses solid wire instead of stranded. My motto is click it and forget it.

Will i need to upgrade to a 5090 from this when it comes out?

Thx for this conclusion I'm running two watercooled 4090's in my Workstation (mostly doing CGI with C4d) and one aircooled 4090 in a Rendernode. Fortunately I decided not to go with the Cablemod 90° adapter, but I've been always aware of the dangerous 12VHPwr connector.... Plz nvidia, bring a new power connector to the 5xxx Generation!

Did you have issues with your Zotac card? They seem to cut corners, cheap.

I'm just looking to play 4k at a staple 60-90. Most of my games struggle fo maintain 60, which isn't so bad but I feel limited as time goes on and the fomo is hitting pretty hard right now lol

The biggest issue I had with my 4090 Founders was actually getting it to display properly with my monitor - had lots of display errors and black screens initially. It seems to have sorted itself out now - but I would be worried trying to sell it to someone in the future.

Is the RTX 4070 TI Super still worth it?

Just sold my 4090 last week, but looking down wt else to get in the 40 series… nothing really strikes as a good value card. I guess let wait for 50s to hope if any changes.

Got my 4090 running undervolted at 0.9 and power-limited to 70% (5% perf. hit)or often even to 50% (25% perf. hit). Does everything I need it to do (high Refresh Shooter and crisp 60 or 90 FPS for normal Games at 4k) and I am still on a Dark Power 750W PSU with a 7800X3D (80W at max).

As someone who has owned 4090 since day 1 the powerdraw is very subjective matter as learning to mess with the vf curve and undervolting is a must do on the 4090. You can generally reduce the wattage by alot and losing not much fps like setting two undervolts one for video editing ect thats slightly more agressive and one for gaming.

The only thing im wondering is when will we hit the peak of graphics in gaming? Like i know eventually we will hit a cap and the 7090 or whatever thats comes out in a few years will be able to run anything for a super super long time

This is the first GPU where I needed something to keep it from sagging and possibly breaking over time. My Asus TUF 4090 came with a little metal magnetic stand thing that is adjustable. I made sure all power cables are completely plugged in. I feared the melting adapter issue. I've had this card since last October and it's been nothing but amazing. I have it in an i7-3700 system. I was using the i7-8700K and didn't want to bottleneck this new GPU. The i7-8700K was still running games great when paired with a powerful GPU. I also just felt the need to move on from six year old hardware. I fear hardware failure when things get so old. I'm using the Lian Li LANCOOL 216. This case has excellent cooling. The 4090 is so big that it gets real close to the two giant from case fans keeping things cool and quiet.

Great video and breakdown. I absolutely love my 4090, it's just a beast with everything I throw at it. I don't think I'm gonna even look at 5080/5090 and skip to the 6000 series at this point in another 3 years which is kinda insane when we look back at the 2 year upgrade cycle a lot of us are on with GPU's. Star Citizen is the only game in the future I'm really looking forward too that's demanding and it runs it fantastic. I just can't see needing an upgrade for many years to come. Yes, the price is high but I'm gonna get more years out of this card vs. all the cards I've owned over the past couple of decades.

10:22 what game is this?

Got a 7700K / 1080ti rig for the past 7 years. It’s been an amazing setup. I’m scared the 4090 or 5090 won’t have that kind of longevity. I’ll be getting something soon, though. 4080 seems tempting just to save some coin

It is easy to control how much power 4090 draws. It is very power efficient so despite not letting it draw more than designed, it will still perform well. Most often I just limit FPS in games because framerate remains a lot more constant and power draw drops hugely. Most modern games run very well while GPU is consuming less than AMD 5700XT.

There were changes with the ATX specification to prevent it from operating without a solid connection. Size is great you don't have to deal with noise. Most of this stuff doesn't have anything to do wit YOUR experience and actually using the card. I still believe if you get MSRP (I got 5% under MSRP with MC card) it's WAY better value than the 4080. I know a lot of benchmarks show 20-30% uplift but that was what was available at release. There is 60% more hardware available.

Conclusiom is spot on. The price is not the only discouraging part. It is how fast Nvidia is making new cards! Like someone will work their butt off and save for a 4090..buys it with great happiness then too soon after that, a new and better one comes. Like how disrespectful. Like give the consumer AT LEAST 5 years to play with and be proud of having the best card before shoving a better one in the market!

I run my strix 4090 with a 165hz 1440p monitor as well. Only a few games I play even make the fans turn on, it’s completely overkill and I love it

All those "issues" are actually non-issues if you use it properly. 4090 is hands down the best card since the 1080 Ti. The gap in performance between it and the 4070 Ti is massive. Also, regarding use cases, if you want to game at 4K at high fps then you need it. When 5090 comes out, it will still make sense to get over a 4090 since it we're still not maxing out 240 Hz screens at 4K or superwide. For 1440p screens it's 360 Hz. Last thing, I'm not sure where you got that framerate for AW2. I get 90-100 fps @ 5120x1440 with DLSS on Quality and it looks fine. 50 fps with no DLSS but I'll aways take higher fps.

I have a 4090 strix, and i am honestly impressed, its the best card overall that i have used possibly since forever

sometimes in order to go forwards we either must go back, or just stay as we are for awhile.

thing about 4090 pricing often makes me smile, like people forgot that nvidia made titan rtx for $2500, they will go to whatever price they want and 1600 isn't that high in the grand scheme of things, like 10 series titan was $1300

Waiting for the 5090 to come out since that's the best opportunnity to snag a deal with a 4090. If I buy it new, I will do it via Micro Center with the extended protection in case it catches on fire and they will just replace it 🙃

I've found that I prefer the look of 1440p versus 2160p. The edges of objects seem too crisp and everything is soooo clearly well-defined that games seem almost less "realistic" in 4k.

@ the time thia came out it was a Scapocalypse best buy wouldnt work for me cart kept refusing to check out or say this item isnt available online yet on thenoage it self only available online 🤣 plus between the Super Nova that happened to these and the 7800x3D CPUs popping i figured ill wait till texh stopped mimicking the Note 7 disasters. Though in doing so i missed my chance to get a Asus x670E M-ATX Board as they only made 10 of these it seems. The only other option for a M-ATX board looked like it was made in the back room of a gas station barhin bin. If there is a new Gene for Zen 5 ill buy 2 outa the 10 they will make.

I have had a 4090 for about a year now with moderate to heavy use and had no problems. No mods at all. I think people aren't always seating the cables enough. If it's loose it might melt. My main issue with this card is no cpu can get anywhere near full use of this cards power.

I have my 4090 under volted slightly but it runs at sub 300W with barely any frame drop offs.

Good video. I got a 4090 and after being a life long gamer (I'm 50 now) it might simply being too much video card for what I do, I mostly play older games now. A 4070ti Super might do just as well for me. Physics are real SO I laid my pc case flat on it's side (It's behind my large screen tv) so the pcie cables have no tension and card's pcb won't crack under it's weight. The 4090 dwarfs a 3090 in size and weight.

Only way I ever felt that I got my money's worth for this card is when I was running nolvus (a HUGE mod pack for skyrim) at max settings and other mod packs for other games since they push the boundaries of the games they're made for I usually get 60fps+ at 4k from what i read even people with 4080's struggle to get those frame rates at 4k. Any other game for now easy 90+ at 4k

I am waiting for 50 series to upgradr my card

I have a 4070ti card in my system which I absolutely adore. I can play pretty much anything at ultra or high settings. Only thing I don’t like is just the amount of noise it makes. I’m coming from an iMac so it’s probably not that bad for many dedicated pc players but for me I was surprised how noisy it is. Can’t imagine the 4090 is much quieter. Is this why most gamers play with headphones on these days?

I got my founders card for $1599. Never had any issues with the connector. It runs very cool. The power draw for me has been great, but then I have solar on my house so that helps a lot. I drive a Samsung Neo Odyssey G9. I have no complaints at all.

Ive had a strix 4090 and i have had no problems with mine. Tbh the price was literally the only downside ive had personally. Hell i even have a cablemod 12vhpwr cable and ive left it running over night multiple times with no problems (so far)... ive had it for over 6 months now. But i also dont bother it. I made sure it was seated correctly and with the cablemod cable it had the satisfying click when it seated and then i left it alone

i got a 4090 on launch (camped out at microcenter to get one) and although its expensive I haven't regrated the purchase its honestly amazing especially if you get high end oled monitor to pair with it. I only upgrade every other generation or so, so i wont be getting the 5090 but this card being as good as it is im not worried about games in the future struggling to run until the 60 series come out

I got a 4090 at MSRP for the founders tax free shopping from the px, so I got a good deal on it. I'm going to be honest, I have a cable mod cable I seated it once made sure it was seated properly and clicked and I have never looked back. Haven't checked it, don't even worry about it. Hell my PC is usually on over night and when I leave the house unless I just decide to turn it off. I really don't worry about it.

FYI most 4080 and 4090 coolers were designed for 500 watt TDP, so when you are using a 4080 at 250 watts (which is a pretty normal load for it) you've got so much thermal headroom. My card is specced at 2550 MHZ but it actually runs at like 2850mhz and at like 60c max, the coolers definitely are overkill and if OEMS wanted they could reduce the size and make the cards a bit cheaper. At this point I think it is just to look appealing. Bigger = better right?

Some professional that could help me buy 5090 founders edition when it comes out?

Actually, in some countries we hope to find a bargain for 2000$. I paid 2500$ for mine, and it was the cheapest on the market, and the cheapest not by little, but around 400$ cheaper than most.

When you hit the gpu with the shrink beam but the wrong part gets shrunk.

so u say i should have my 4090 vertical instead of the normal way?

I had a GTX 1070 8 gig model overclocked with an Intel i7 7700k processor 16 fb gskill ram till a week ago. Got a 3070 founder edition I would say that’s a good upgrade for the price I paid

I bought a MSI Suprim X 4090 in January, probably the worst time to buy one, but I was too tempted... I agree with the general message for gamers who are planning to use it only for gaming: it's not worth it, especially with the 50 series right around the corner... on the other side... i won't upgrade my AM4 system anytime soon and so I'm limited to PCIe 4.0 which means I won't benefit from the 50 series cards anyway since these cards will most likely adapt the PCIe 5.0 standard, so yeah... great video btw, really liked it.

Bought 4070ti, its great card for 1440p, really! But my only bad thing is that i know it have 12gb vram 😒

Ok, so 12v cable is not that much of an issue for me, i bought a decent power supply with dedicated cable (no adapters) and it just works. Power consuption can be easily lowered with software limit to 90 or even 80% without significant performance loss, and the price is way too high I agree. It would be nice for 1200 USD. Ngreedia is pushing it.

I bought a 4080 just a couple of months after they launched and was ridiculed mercilessly online for spending "too much money!". But did I spend "too much"? I spent a lot that's for damned sure, but considering the card does everything I want it to do, considering the thousands of hours of enjoyment I've gotten from the 4080 ...did I spend "too much"? Absolutely not!

Went from a eVGA 3090 rtx to a Zotac 4090 just under a year ago....been in love with this card every since. If you are a VR sim(flight/racing) gamer its literally god sent. my biggest gripe is the INSANE power consumption. Gotta pay to play so they say.....

i was lucky and got a 4090 founders edition for msrp at launch through nvidia access

Ive been running a 4090 fe since end of 2022 and havet touched the cable apart from when i changed my mobo and got a 7800x3d. Its run fine so far no issues 🤞

While you were talking about how high the wattage can get on the 4090, you should have also mentioned how power efficient the card can be keeping the majority of its performance at a 70% power limit and 300w. Something to keep in mind for those who want a powerful card, but not the high diminishing returns for all that extra heat. der8auer made a video on that exact topic showcasing the expected performance for the suggested power limit. Undervolting is not recommended for the 4000 series FYI, OptimumTech made a video on that as well for anyone interested.

My 4090 PC uses very close to 1000wats at full load with Intel 14900K boosted. I use it as a space heater in the winter no joke. And for the summer I bought a mobile airconditioning unit for my room to cool into when gaming. 100 serious 😌🙂‍↕️.

4090 is honestly the only card you'll ever need or want for a very long time. Just make sure you don't buy into the histeria about the plug and be checking it every other day. It is an issue but if you make sure it's in all the way and the wires aren't bending at harsh/stressful angles you should be OK . I've also had mine for over a year now and it's been fine. I haven't unplugged it since the build was finished and it is using a right angle adapter bought from Amazon which I'm pretty sure it came from China believe it or not.....

Been running a styleGAN3 script for 14 hours now with the 4090 at 97%. Its still only running around 150 degrees f. GPU is amazing.

My 4090 is almost a year old and nothing happened. I didn’t use the cable in the box. I got a custom cable and everything is fine, except the cable is really warm. And, the card doesn’t exist 65C because I water cool it with custom loop. Power draw, it is not low. The card draw 460W max in my system, depending on games.Some less than 350, some 450 w in loading screen. I would said the power draw is not low comparing with 4080 or 3080. But… I don’t feel anything, I got my threadripper 2990WX and Vega 64 crossfire. 400w cpu drawing and 450w each of Vega 64. Total 1300W max, and 400w standby.

the power adapter thing isn't really a problem it was just wide spared coverage

I'm buying a 5090 because it's my childhood dream to build the best PC out there. Thanks to god money isn't an issue now.

I love every minute of owning it. Playing in 4K on 4K screen is a privillage benefit. Still 78 deg C while gaming at the moment.

I never had problems with mine as well, had it for more than a year already but i dont push mine to 95% gpu utilization, i give it some headroom to breath. Imagine a wear and tear of any machine that will always have to run 99% usage all the time...

Isn't it so sad how back in the day it felt so sick to have something like the 980TI or the 1080TI, and now it just feels gross to own nvidia. :/ I have a very similar feeling, because I was using a 6800 XT paired with an i5-12600k w/32GB DDR4 3800 MHz, but the 6800XT wound up dying (it was a dell/Alienware OEM model I got used online) so I replaced it with an RTX 3080 with a modded AIO cooling solution, so not only does the card look weird as fuck because it has no shroud or backplate (making a custom backplate for it now) and is a super thin PCB slotted into a mobo like some weird expansion card, but I also miss the 6800 XT, and it's glorious 16GB of VRAM and I miss adrenaline as the driver suite w/stupid easy OC/UV features and everything. I also just want to "join the party", which in some ways makes me happy because it suggests that it's becoming cool to run AMD GPUs again so it's a double-edged sword, but I absolutely understand you wanting to "join the party" with a 7800XT or something. It's a shame that AMD just can't keep up when it comes to RT. I'm predominately, to the point where I would say I am almost exclusively a single player gamer, so to be able to keep a framerate of 90 FPS w/RT enabled and maxed out at 1440p MINIMUM is an absolute must for me. The issue is we are all stuck between a rock and a hard place. AMD gives you the 1440p/4k gameplay with maxed out textures, if not maxed out settings entirely, while maintaining a framerate of 60+ but RT performance which is only PASSABLE at 1080p. Nvidia on the other hand gives you phenomenal RT, but barred the 30 series from FG and severely gimps on the VRAM. 12GB on the 4070s? That's just nonsense and spending that kind of money you deserve better. I'm ready to tell RT and nvidia both, to fuck themselves and grab my self a 7900 GRE if I have the cash/chance but ATM the 3080 delivers all the performance I need. Especially because I don't usually play games as soon as they are released, and I have a MAJOR backlog to get through. I just beat RDR2 for the first time recently, and that game's what, five years old? Once I have to start compromising on my texture quality to achieve a playable framerate, the GPU is a doorstop for me. NOTE: DLSS VS FSR should be a non factor because both look like shit at 1080p, and both look phenomenal at 1440p or higher, even if DLSS is SLIGHTLY nicer in terms of image stability and sometimes sharpness, it's not enough to where you should be concerned when buying a new GPU, so I don't consider it when buying a new GPU.