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I Tried To Find The Best MTB Hardtail In The World. (Full Season)
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Chapters:
Intro - 0:00
Episode 1 Ragley Big Al - 2:23
Episode 2 Nukeproof Scout - 13:18
Episode 3 Trek Roscoe - 25:18
Episode 4 Banshee Paradox - 39:17
Episode 5 Rocky MTN Growler - 55:12
Episode 6 RSD Middlechild - 1:17:59
Episode 7 Canfield Yelli Screamy - 1:39:09
Episode 8 Bird Zero 29 - 1:58:05
Epilogue Head to Head Test - 2:19:30
@user-rj9ui3sz8u 11 ай бұрын
Awesome series. I don't think even pinkbike goes this deep lol. Thanks for the fun times you definitely put in a lot of effort and hard work.
@MrChadLedford 7 ай бұрын
Pinkbike isn't the same without Mike Levy.
@user-rj9ui3sz8u 7 ай бұрын
I will miss him, wont be the same. He made everything a must watch.
@justinmiller1535 11 ай бұрын
This series was a blast to watch. I’m a scout owner but I did like the Bird as well. It sounds like I might need to pick up some Berd wheels if they make that much of a difference in ride quality. Keep up the good work.
@CT-Training 7 ай бұрын
I have the 2023 trek Rascoe 7. Love it. I just switched the bars to PNW bars with a slight higher rise. Works great for jumping and flow
@lostman65 9 ай бұрын
i ride a 2017 chameleon. this thing has gone through so many revisions that i am never bored. right now it’s super aggressive with a mx wheel sizing and a 160mm fox float.
@TeroOhranen 11 ай бұрын
A great ending for a great series! Thank you Evan so much for putting this together! Very enjoyable content, you are on your way to the very top! 🚀
@numbatkerr 9 ай бұрын
I was watching this for the Trek Roscoe review and now I am quite worried. Would love to see the Medium tested as that's what I was looking at. Love the videos :-)
@lesjones5684 2 ай бұрын
Where is squid word 😂😂
@BoshJeach 11 ай бұрын
Loved this series! For the steel one next, please shoot a message to Radical Bike Co about their new Grim Ripper! They're trying to get the word out about the brand and the ripper looks like a better version of the Big Al, but also steel. Stoked for future content, cheers!
@EvansMTBSaga 11 ай бұрын
I'll check into that!
@superfelon6190 11 ай бұрын
That or the chili dog! Lol
@Philoniousmonk 10 ай бұрын
I have the Radical chili dog and a Stanton Switchback Ti…both amazing.
@alanpettibone 3 ай бұрын
I was bummed to find out that all their frames are sold out and their complete builds are crap Shimano Deore. Pass
@pierceskidmore9806 11 ай бұрын
Loved this series man, great production and a ton of fun to watch. Keep up the good content!!! Teach us some BMX skills soon! 😃
@EvansMTBSaga 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Pierce! I really enjoyed it too
@AZRob. 11 ай бұрын
This is by far my favorite video of yours! Even though I already have my dream hardtail built, I still enjoy seeing and hearing about all the other makes, models, and your comparisons of them. The trials you put them through have also been super fun! Cheers Evan!!
@ncsteeltoe 11 ай бұрын
I like the way you did this. Folks get too bogged down in specs and numbers when ride feel is totally subjective. Great work!
@mythotical406 10 күн бұрын
I have been budget building a Redline D600. The geometry specs are crazy but it climbs like a goat, shreds singletrack and flows over chunk. I'm 6'1 and it's a 17". The top tube length is 595! The seat tube angle is 73.3, the head tube angle is 71.3 and the BB hight is 309 and the chainstay is 450. I'd love to see you max build one. I love how nice this bike rides for something that was marketed for entry-level riders.
@BIIIKES 9 ай бұрын
If you're 5'8, you should've been sized with a Medium Trek. M/L is for 5'10" and up. Matty doesn't like feeling cramped on his bikes according to some of his videos, and likes a longer reach. The size chart on their site is spot on.
@fourocker 8 ай бұрын
100% agree, I'm 5'8" and my local shop (not a Trek shop but a Trek dealer among others) fitted me up with a medium Roscoe, it's a perfect fit ,climbing and descending are both equally balanced in the ride feel and I couldn't be happier, love this bike, ride it anywhere all day, hardtail all the way now, I prefer it over the dual suspension I used to have, so connected and direct with the trail.
@dctPL 7 ай бұрын
I hope you guys are right about the bike size. I happen to be 5'8" and just bought a Trek Roscoe 9 size M. It's still in the shop (it's waiting for some parts to be delivered and later adjustments) so I haven't ridden it yet. My first REAL MTB since mid 90's.
@fourocker 7 ай бұрын
@@dctPL it'll be a very different ride experience from a mid 90's unit (for the better) I also have a mint mid 90's GT Ricochet which works perfectly but feels super sketchy compared to the Roscoe....in fact my dual suspension was a 2005 Specialized S-works Stumpjumper FSR which was an extremely good, reliable bike but the Roscoe still feels much better overall because of the modern geometry done properly with 29 inch wheels. You can experiment with the roll adjustment of your handlebars to taylor it somewhat, I have and it makes quite a difference to the feel, I've ended up with it set with it rolled back slightly to increase the back sweep and have virtually no upsweep, that actually shortened the reach slightly and let's me weight the front wheel a little better.
@dctPL 7 ай бұрын
@@fourocker Tbf I cat't remember the feel of the bike I had in mid 90's. I was a kid back then. The bike was some Bridgestone construction. I only remember that I liked riding it. I lost that bike (my father's fault) and pretty much stopped riding untill very recently. I will definitely experiment with settings. I have already been thinking about getting a lil shorter stem and replacing the handlebar with something with greater rise. Your suggestion may also work. I will give it a try👍Thx
@GorgeyWoofy-jb3ip 7 ай бұрын
I'm 5'11and half I use L or XL frames can't use small or medium frames feels like your riding a kids and I like 29' or 27.5 inch wheels
@leokuo7127 11 ай бұрын
Excellent series. It's inspiring me to try a different 27.5" frame.
@XCRiders 10 ай бұрын
Great series Best hardtail I’ve had and I know it’s a carbon frame lol 2023 Ibis DV9 is sick af 66.5° 75° 425mm chain stays Goldilocks GEO
@ndisa4444 10 ай бұрын
Id love to see the Marin San Quentin Frame tested if you decide to ever continue this.
@camdeocampo7368 2 ай бұрын
As an ex-trek mechanic at a trek dealer your assumptions about trek is true. They are so concerned with selling in volume that their bikes often come in requiring some serious maintenance to be sellable. But their frames are always super tough. Furthermore, Trek’s model for selling bikes in a store is also oriented to get people to buy quickly which I think leads people into getting the wrong size.
@joebikes 11 ай бұрын
What a fantastic series! Enjoyed every video 🤠 Man I am so stoked for the steel series 🔥there are so many small brands making steel hardtails. I hope to see at least one or two from a US, UK, or European small brand. I would recommend the Ferrum NVHT for a US frame, the Pole hardtail which is made in Finland, and you’ve got to try out a Marino which are made in Peru (very inexpensive for a handmade frame). Man… did I say I was exited?! 🤜
@palashpulsar 11 ай бұрын
Pole is from Finland, not Poland 🙂. However their Taival hardtail frame is made in Taiwan.
@joebikes 11 ай бұрын
@@palashpulsar whoops! I will correct my comment, thank you 👍
@Ragnarok20854 8 ай бұрын
Pässilä rämäkkä is very good hardtail from Finland.
@OriginalTrev 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely the best comparison video ever produced...I must say, of all the big brands through the years, Trek always seemed to ride heavier than they actually weigh compared to Specialized which seems more compliant, nimble and easier to manual.
@SprSonik13 11 ай бұрын
The Bird was my favorite of the group. Actually got me thinking of building up another hardtail (gears this time) after watching this series.
@BLAKERIDES 4 күн бұрын
Yeti A R C is the perfect hardtail. My next conquest. Presently enjoying a WeThePeople BMX/Klunker 27.5” s.s. disc brakes works fine on the Arizona Trail.
@dougcrenshaw5687 11 ай бұрын
Hard tails are awesome but I prefer them in 27.5 & love my custom Marley. It’s more focused on what it does great & not trying to do it all. If I want 29er then I’m going full suspension with my custom built Izzo. No sense in blurring the lines. Nimble & clickable on flow = 27.5 hard tail & 29er full sus for the rest. Keep it up! I’m curious to see how ur rsd experiments go. Heading back to Bentonville the 2nd week of Oct, maybe we’ll see u on the trails.
@ChrisOgle210 9 ай бұрын
Can't imagine the hours spent editing this video. Awesome content dude
@ethanjolly3686 10 ай бұрын
Hey Evan! I actually preferred the chest cam and front camera setup more than the multiple angles. seeing the outside view of the jumps is cool, but I like hearing your live commentary more on the chest cam. You definitely seem more relaxed and natural without someone else filming you. Hope my ramblings helps you out! Also thanks for doing this series its been super helpful in my own research into finding a good hardtail. I currently ride a giant talon I've jerry-rigged to be somewhat decent through some pretty major upgrades. But I've decided its time to let go of the money pit and I'm getting ready to dive into a serious bike. I hope the next season of hardtail party includes some steel framed bikes. I really like birds steel frames. Anyways thanks and ride safe!
@EvansMTBSaga 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Ethan! I've messed with a giant talon and it's a good entry level bike to tinker with! Best of luck finding a good Hardtail and thanks for the feedback on the chest cam, I feel the same way
@danielvelasquez7708 11 ай бұрын
It was definitely a series to remember, followed by the ending part of the hardtail quest which I loved seeing. Evans since Marin announced the Marin San Quentin 29 inch version would you do a video about the bike, since Matt Jones, and would you be willing to try it out.
@ethanmanseau4680 11 ай бұрын
Loved the series, you did a great job. I’m a hardtail only guy. I ride a custom frame up built chromag stylus. I ride it everywhere, local trails, downhill parks and even the skatepark and local dirt jumps. So awesome to see hardtail getting some love in the hobby right now. If you wanted to check out the stylus or any other bike from chromag, I’m sure you’d love them. Keep rocking and rolling man!!
@EvansMTBSaga 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Ethan! Hardtail only is bold but I've definitely considered it!
@gerryl5593 9 ай бұрын
Good series. Thank you. I own a Rocky Mountain Growler, Norco Fluid HT (my bikepacking rig), and now a Banshee Paradox. The Paradox is my main ride these days. These bikes are super fun and reasonable price for entry in the mountain bike market.
@beauleader5026 2 ай бұрын
I learnt more about hardtails in one video, than a full week scouting the internet for info. Thank you ! Subed ! + video editing, script, pace is top quality !
@EvansMTBSaga 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Beau!!!
@alanpettibone 3 ай бұрын
I really wanted to get a Rocky Mtn Growler 50 from my local bike shop, but they don’t offer it in SRAM or even just a frame. I am to the point that I won’t buy a bike with Shimano drivetrain.
@EarthSurferUSA 11 ай бұрын
Geometry: Seat tube angle is a factor, but really does not make any difference if the seat position is the same distance to the center of the crank. Head tube angle affects steering and stability. Stem length also affects steering feel, (not sure how to describe it yet though, but shorter stems I think tend to turn quicker, as there is less movement per degree of wheel turn). Then you have top tube length and chain stay length. Top tube length can be offset by steering stem length, and like the seat tube angle, the chain stay length can be offset by the seat position (forward or rearward). With different length stems, and the seat adjustable in relation to the pedals, you can make different frames feel quite similar, I would say.
@chriss8375 11 ай бұрын
It's the berd wheels! It does really help level compliance for all frames. And yes tire psi can be huge!
@EvansMTBSaga 11 ай бұрын
I love the Berd wheels so much ahha
@BikesWithBlake 12 күн бұрын
Hell ye Craig, awesome video. I need to get out there again soon, so fast and flowy 👌 Keep up the good work mate and never stop shedding
@ohkennas3031 11 ай бұрын
this series was fun. I would like to recommend dartmoor primal for the next series. cheaper and more durable than most of the reviewed frames.
@stevenwomack14 10 күн бұрын
Put some 27.5 plus wheels and tires on that RSD and it will come alive. That's what it was made for. I know I love mine.
@AndrewSmyk 9 ай бұрын
Great review series. Frame/bike compliance is influenced by the actual frame size (larger frames will be softer than the same model in a smaller sizes) and rider size (larger/heavier and/or riders who mash will need a stiffer frame).
@mikeburgh3956 10 ай бұрын
Nukeproof fan boi here 😊 Great video! I knew the Trek wouldn't do as well as the others.
@robertmoore119 Ай бұрын
I concur that you should have ridden a medium Trek. That size choice is one of your controls, like a science experiment. That said, It's great to hear thoughts on all of those different bikes. As you say, it really does come down to the trails you like and your riding style. If you want to carry a lot of speed, a longer bike is good. If you want agility, a shorter bike is better. Short chainstays help to get over the back tire, that can help with moving the bike around in the air, or keeping traction on the back tire for climbing. But the reach can also affect that. There is a saying about being on or in the bike. Basically the difference between a 27.5 or 29 in bike. So I think for my style, the Banshee would be awesome! But it suits my riding style. I also like climbing, so a high saddle, or forward helps to keep weight forward. When climbing steep trails, swinging weight forward keeps the front tire down. But short stays keep weight over the back tire. The down side, is that without the correct reach, some will feel cramped. Not to say that's how the banshee feels. Geo and rider preference.
@michaelsturgeon5210 11 ай бұрын
To be honest this series convinced me to chop in my 2022 ragley big al and go for the 2023 🤓 all the things you said about the original ragley i was also thinking , low stack short reach steep head angle , i also ride a nukeproof reactor so going from one bike to the other these things were all really noticeable. Ive had the 2023 just under a week now and absolutely love it so thanks for the indepth ride review 😎👍
@EvansMTBSaga 11 ай бұрын
Heck yeah Michael! What color Ragley did you go with? Ragley's are awesome cuz they're just so cheap for the frame so it's perfect for people who like to tinker with their set ups
@michaelsturgeon5210 11 ай бұрын
@@EvansMTBSaga I got the blue one like you had 😎 chain reaction/ wiggle here in the UK had them down to £279 which is a steal
@thesnipecatcher116 10 ай бұрын
Only here for the great content as I don’t see me ever buying an aluminum hardtail again. Just never rode an aluminum bike I loved. Which reminds me I need to sell the 2022 Big Al that’s sitting in my garage! Ordered a very boutique, custom geometry steel hardtail. Most comfortable hardtail I’ve ever owned, but I can’t exactly say it was money well spent :) Thanks for the awesome channel!
@nathanaelsenn225 11 ай бұрын
Ride a San Quentin! They now sell a 29er one too!
@RJKYEG 9 ай бұрын
Norco is a big bike maker in Canada, lots of Norco around here. The Torrent and the Fluid would be up for testing here. Their current XC is the Revolver.
@augmented2nd666 7 ай бұрын
I have Devinci Kobain 29, love it, its my big BMX, then I got a Specialized P3 for jumpin, and still ride my trusty BSD Passenger V2 BMX.
@CEMonkey 6 ай бұрын
Real rider, real reviews, great info and advice. Excellent channel.
@EvansMTBSaga 6 ай бұрын
Thanks man!n
@abstraddic0442 11 ай бұрын
I just really didn't like how skinny the top tube was. Great series Sir !!!
@barryb3anz 9 ай бұрын
I mean if you have loads of spare hardtails lying around I'd happily take one off your hands 😂😂
@73megalith 11 ай бұрын
Was a 29er hater untill i rode a modern hardtail 29er , way more capable than i had thought. When it gets rowdy you have to think about lines more on the fly and never expected to get that buzz again after 30 years of riding MTB.
@EvansMTBSaga 11 ай бұрын
I recently experienced that 29er feel with the Hardtail winner. I'm not sure if the brands do something with geometry to mask the 29er feel. But it's a ton of fun
@MtbBoy80 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Nice varieties. Do the MTB bikes come with foot pedals??? If not, which brands do?
@briansmythe3000 2 ай бұрын
Bike's have come a long way Still got my old Iron horse with V brakes on the back, Somewhere around lol
@tracyellis7281 5 ай бұрын
I have a Roscoe medium large and I'm 5'8 and average rider so far I love it and your right about it being a bit hard on you in the chunky bits
@Dexterpearson13 6 ай бұрын
Can u test the Marin san Quintin
@karduar 10 ай бұрын
If you like nice jumpy hardtails give a Marin San Quinten 3 a go. Nice slack front, low bb and feels like a big BMX. I love it.
@jurisx85 11 ай бұрын
Out of the blue cones a this unknown hardtail to topple the game board. Pretty rad.
@user-sd1wi7vm5f 11 ай бұрын
Zocheli bikes offered a beautiful hardtail and they just released a new frame and I can’t see the hardtail on their website 😢
@donparsons1237 6 ай бұрын
Thats friggin awesome Evans,,, thank you so much for putting this together and taking your time and efforts too perform all that work... obviously your old school bmx,,, im a xc runner/ up hill mountain bike dude at 60 years young... i swith over too a Giant xc SLR which is the lightest in its class in aluminum at 26 ish lbs running tubeless 29'ers it would fit in between all your numbers some where,,, I'm the same as you and other... Make the bike fit our ergonomics ,,, i find that slack comes from wheel size,,, tires,,, spokes and rims,,, air pressure... Wheel combinations make or break my rides... i like medium pressure tires for long steep Rocky climbs ,,, more air pressure for distance ,,, less pressure for decents... basically,,, medium/ low for all round ... i really enjoyed your take on this... excellent class on your part... my f.s. is great for mountain bike parks,,, my xc hard tail is my main all rounder for the steep climbs on the Rock Mountain Range in Western Canada... I can't wait too see more of your videos... Don
@LUCKYSOB 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video man. It's tough rating bikes. I'd love for you to ride and review a fully machined full suspension aluminum mountain bike by Ministry Cycles called the Psalm 150. I figured you'd love to, especially since it's also raw aluminum. It looks bad ass as well 👍👍 and let's not forget. Affordable !!!!
@rolfeaalto7387 10 ай бұрын
No titanium? I tried a titanium hard tail >20 years ago (Bontrager RaceTi) and never looked back. Titanium has the absolute best feel and the springy feel when you're climbing is fabulous! RaceTi has been now been converted to a superb gravel bike, as Titanium lasts several lifetimes. I am using an upgraded Moots YBB for my main XC ride -- 27.5" wheels and Fox Kashima shocks with upgraded components round it out into a fantastic ride! I'm also building up a Mongoose Pro Titanium, one of the best frames ever made.
@user-yb7zg7vn1i 5 ай бұрын
Wow. Must be hard work making such a long video. Very nice work Evan!!!
@willheft3445 9 ай бұрын
This was and awesome video to play while I worked today! Thanks for the in-depth review, it was much appreciated!
@EvansMTBSaga 9 ай бұрын
I'm glad you liked it!!
@edwardgurhy100 9 ай бұрын
That's a shame as I have a Chameleon - would have been interesting to hear / see the comparison. 🤔
@EvansMTBSaga 9 ай бұрын
I wish I could've as well!
@user-lx9fv6dj1j 11 ай бұрын
Great series but I feel like you did an injustice to the Trek Roscoe. From the review it sounds like the bike was too big. I believe you even mentioned this a couple times. Would really like to see another review with the medium size.
@EvansMTBSaga 11 ай бұрын
There was just so many factors that pointed to not testing it. The regular medium was 440mm reach, and I figured out that 440 is just too small. The ML that I tested was 455, and the frame that won was 450. So it wasn't too far off. Plus all the other talking points I mentioned about Trek in the post episode commentary
@user-lx9fv6dj1j 11 ай бұрын
@@EvansMTBSaga thanks for the reply! As a Roscoe owner that downsized I’m a little disappointed but understand. Maybe you could do a review on RAD sizing based on the book Dialed be Lee McCormack. That’s how I set my bike up and I think it really hits the nail on the head. Thanks again for all the content! Really like the channel.
@trelane751 4 ай бұрын
The reason why the nukeproof and the ragley have to same bar height is because of the head angle. The steeper Head angle keeps the wheel more under the bike.
@N8MRN 9 ай бұрын
Hard core Hard tails next year, like a Norco Torrent with 160 mm fork? Or more all-arounders once once Specialized and Santa Cruz come back in stock? Great series!
@cheesychester9647 9 ай бұрын
Try the Roscoe medium please
@rofferdal 2 ай бұрын
Very cool. I would personally love to try the Nukeproof, since I probably would love the more compliant frame compared to the RSD, but it is hard to find in Norway, so I will just keep searching.
@EvansMTBSaga 2 ай бұрын
The Bird Forge 29 was compliant. You might be able to get it there
@BlindingSun_ 4 ай бұрын
1994 specialized stumpjumper m4, 14 inch, Jason McRoy specs. Best ever
@paolomartinengo4047 9 ай бұрын
Giorgione... è giusto poter vedere anche te soffrire in preparazione per la nuova stagione , lascia che lui si mangi la piadina. 😉
@paolomartinengo4047 9 ай бұрын
Sorry guys KZfaq make a mistake between 2 video i were watching
@JeremyDwyer-jf2ry 3 ай бұрын
Funny that my two favs don't even make the list. I've owned a couple of Nukeproof Scouts in the past that were fun as hell to goof around on but as for bikes that I intend to keep long-term, it's SC Chameleon (2018/2019) as my clear #1, followed by Salsa TJ (2020). Never rode an RSD Middlechild, however. Looks like that might also be up my alley.
@chrisinmontreal 11 ай бұрын
great series indeed, I'm also 5'9 and my 2022 Rocky Mountain Growler 50 M is also 450mm reach
@roryennis96943 11 ай бұрын
For steel check out the Kona Honzo ESD for a budget friendly mass produced frames, maybe a Chromag Rootdown too. To go along with some of the small batch producers
@samuelnsquishy8798 10 күн бұрын
Nice series but if I buy a hardtail mtb it will be stock cause I don't have money to swap out and stuff. So I'll just go with the cheapest that has got decent specs.
@EliMTB 11 ай бұрын
Love your videos Dude!!! I hope one day to arrive to do videos of this quality!!!!
@hardmtnbiker 8 ай бұрын
This would be interesting if you used Ti hardtail vs budget steel frames. I’m sure you could find some $4K Ti frames v/s $400 steel frames. I would also recommend wider rims for your hardtail’s. I30mm is minimal, i35 or i40 for 29x2.6” tires. Personally I use 780mmx31.8 bars or my hardtail 35mm is too stiff for me a small guy 150 pounds. I love the feel of a carbon bar that has some compliance.
@shaneweightman 6 ай бұрын
I’m glad I accidentally discovered your channel , I’m the same height as you and have owned several hard tails, and currently ride one, how ever shows what I no ,, I’m British, live in England 🇬🇧 uk and never heard of Bird , but there you go , good work and videos , Shane uk 🇬🇧 cheers
@EvansMTBSaga 6 ай бұрын
Several months later and I still stand by that the Bird is the best hardtail. I hope you can find one to try out! Thanks for watching
@ben2xgoms27 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review boss.. now i can begin my list on what to buy for my bike build.
@EvansMTBSaga 10 ай бұрын
Np thanks for watching dude!
@usmceric1 6 ай бұрын
So many nuances. Very informative comparison. Thinking of paying for a professional bike fit.
@youngstadan4999 4 ай бұрын
Could of just stuck a longer bar stem on the old ht for a longer reach
@josephsowinski6960 3 ай бұрын
Full suspension for life signed nick
@user-ps4zi1ns8i 7 ай бұрын
I got a bad ass Orbea Laufey 2022 with a RockShox 140mm fork. Although I really loved it doing some Black diamond trails out here in SoCal I wanted to go Full Suspension and wow my buddies were not wrong. It is definitely night and day. Will be using both from time to time moving forward!
@joshuaallswang8016 6 ай бұрын
I’m from SoCal myself broski. Rocking a Fuel Ex full sus and a BMC XC twostroke hardtail. What trails do you normally ride? Where do you recommend?
@user-ps4zi1ns8i 6 ай бұрын
@@joshuaallswang8016 I'm usually out here in Turnbull canyon since it's closest to me. But El Prieto in Pasadena if you want to get a good ride in. Hacienda Heights Schabarum trail. Then of course there's Laguna Beach. Check them all out bro. Dope rides to be had!
@brassmnky33 11 ай бұрын
Idk if low bb helps on jumps but higher handlebars do and with the low bb your handlebars are relatively higher to your stance even if the stack is the same.
@gregoneil2036 8 ай бұрын
The Big Al is speced at a 150-160mm fork. You only put a 140mm, that will affect BB height
@EvansMTBSaga 8 ай бұрын
From the website - Recommended Fork Travel 140mm - 160mm
@andrewbentley1136 9 ай бұрын
Great video. I originally just watched the Growler video and then watched this whole video. I went with RM Growler 40 as was on sale.
@EvansMTBSaga 9 ай бұрын
Heck yeah man! Those sales can be SUPER good these days. Enjoy your new ride!
@rsmithuk 11 ай бұрын
Weird as I thought the British designed frames would do well if tested in the UK, local bike brands tuned for local trails but seems with Bird and Nukeproof, they work well over in the US as well. TBH the Ragley range tends to make more sense in steel and it's translation into ride quality. (Well that's what I've found on back to back tedting)
@thechaoscoefficient 2 ай бұрын
Are you planning to test a Cannondale, Specialized, Giant, Fuji, Norco Torrent or a Salsa Timberjack?
@EvansMTBSaga 2 ай бұрын
I am not. Just this lineup and this series has been discontinued
@usernamefromhell 7 ай бұрын
Not having any steel hardtails in this shootout is a crime. Season 2 should be ALL steel vs season's 1 Alu winner.
@basedmushroom 11 ай бұрын
Really cool video and I love how you tested everything. Why did you not test it with the included components? I mean especially with the Roscoe, it literally makes no sense to change everything on that bike especially
@BryceBetts 11 ай бұрын
To be a fair test to see what frame was the best.
@basedmushroom 11 ай бұрын
@@BryceBetts yeah I get it, but the whole thing about the Roscoe is the plus size tires you know? 😁
@deanemberley2333 24 күн бұрын
Yes I actually care about a UDH. It makes sense to standardize things. Why do you not care? I’ve bent or cracked hangars in the past and never had a spare and ended up having to order one and be out of commission for a period of time. Now I have 3 UDH bikes and a spare UDH hangar. How is this a bad thing ?
@Vlncent89 7 ай бұрын
Why wasn't the Dartmoor Primal 29 frame in the tests, it's an excellent frame, a competitor to Nukeproof? Be sure to test it.
@GTJUSTY 9 ай бұрын
Awesome video! My son and I really enjoyed watching it.
@EvansMTBSaga 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Justin! It was a ton of work and I'm glad it came together for the full 2+ hour of fun!!
@stick_MTB 10 ай бұрын
Great vid.! Looks like a fun ride. Going to have to go check it out!
@ognyc6522 11 ай бұрын
Well done mate on the series! Cotic BFE max for the win!
@bluedogg77 5 ай бұрын
it would be great to see Orbea Layfey and Canyon Stoic reviewed
@FrankAllen-fx2hw 8 ай бұрын
dont these 140mm raked out HTs turn horrible on any trails with tighter turns? just want to go straight?
@mattbergs905 10 ай бұрын
My brother in-law has a growler 20. The specs are stupid low, plus he bought it during the COVID high prices. My freind has a rocky mountain instinct also no good specs. I ended up with a devinci kobain Deore 12s. I love riding it and the specs match the price. 2000$ Canadian.
@X41N3 10 ай бұрын
loved this series, rly wanted to buy the rsd middlechild but I'm scared of import taxes and my phone+laptop suddenly died so hopefully next summer.
@NaZ-rs1dd 11 ай бұрын
Awesome vids 👌 Thanks for your reviews I'll likely get a bird hardtail if I can find one in Australia
@dsguest3 2 ай бұрын
why not do another review of the roscoe with a smaller size frame?
@DarthFetid 9 ай бұрын
be good to see 26" come back as a popular size. a small/medium frame with 26" wheels (short legs long torso)... i am 173 my ape span is 186. i'm built weird i guess.
@LEL7567-ABCDEF 11 ай бұрын
the epilouge was well thought out and good to watch. (full suspension quest?)
@kevinrobertjarvis2636 9 ай бұрын
test the medium roscoe please
@ish474 10 ай бұрын
If you really do build a Banshee up for an Enduro build run it mullet and put a 50 mm rise bar on it band just roll them forward a little bit. That will open up the front and lower your bottom bracket and make it a little more nimble
@EvansMTBSaga 10 ай бұрын
Definitely planning on it! Thanks for the recommendation!
@mikeburgh3956 10 ай бұрын
Roost makes a titanium hardtail DH. It's looks awesome but very expensive!
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