I Upgraded to Murray Carbs! Are They Worth It? Pt 2.

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Z's garage

Z's garage

Ай бұрын

Today, we are taking a look at Murray Carbs!
We had a lot of issues with the first set of carbs. The question is, is the new set going to be better?
Watch and find out!
#caferacer #cb750 #motorcycle

Пікірлер: 54
@ch-ir8ld
@ch-ir8ld 14 күн бұрын
you are NOT alone. My murrays carb kit came far too rich, and i'm still trying to dial them in. plugs are more black then Westley Snipes
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 13 күн бұрын
That is so frustrating! Definitely not good when your spark plugs are westly snipes dark. Hahahahaha
@Christopher-bh4gx
@Christopher-bh4gx Ай бұрын
Og quad cards are all you need! A little jetting, raise he needle and ur done. I'm on cafe build number 3 and I have never not ran the stock carbs. Lean how a carb works and u won't have any problems
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 Ай бұрын
I’ve done a handful of builds too. I usually use the OG carbs but wanted to give something new a go! But appreciate it brotha!
@Fezzler61
@Fezzler61 21 күн бұрын
@@zsgarage7710 OG carbs? Link? Thanks.
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 21 күн бұрын
@@Fezzler61 www.dynojet.com/jet-kit-for-1980-1982-honda-cb750-cb900-stage-1-3-1127/
@denzaloneal4192
@denzaloneal4192 28 күн бұрын
Thanks for your review, I have a set of Murray carbs I got for free and want to put it into my CB750 but it seems like a headache. I’ll try my best to get it installed because it was free but I also heard to keep the stock carbs just because of the reliability.
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 28 күн бұрын
If they were free, I’d go through the headache of installing. And who knows, might be totally fine.
@laurentginalhac2783
@laurentginalhac2783 Ай бұрын
Hello, I had same issue with murrayscarbs on 1982 cb750k, its not throttle cables but jetting. idling jetting too lean. Replace the #35 pilot jet with #47.5 or #50 with 1-1/4 air screw. The needle position were one step too rich, I set the clip at 1st top position. With this recipe my cb750k has a nice throttle, no more brrrbrrr or boowwwoooaah
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 Ай бұрын
Interesting! Because apparently I've had a couple reach out to me saying there Murray carbs did the same thing.
@Fezzler61
@Fezzler61 21 күн бұрын
@@zsgarage7710 But I thought the thing with Murray carbs are they come ready to go?
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 21 күн бұрын
@@Fezzler61 that’s my thing! Don’t want to work on carbs after spending so much money.
@jamescase6465
@jamescase6465 9 күн бұрын
I had the sticky throttle problem too and along with that when I got them the air screws were literally 3/4 of a turn off from each other and were absolutely not synced, I called him and he got angry with me saying that I must’ve somehow messed them up and just about refused to talk to me. Absolutely would not recommend
@JohnFoxphotography
@JohnFoxphotography 28 күн бұрын
I would try removing cables from carbs, and run bike by operating the throttle by hand, if the revs are still high, then its not the cables, slides could be getting stuck.
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 27 күн бұрын
Definitely could be getting stuck internally. Only thing is I polished the internals. So, idk.
@DJ_Driven
@DJ_Driven 8 күн бұрын
You could try reaching out to Barnett cables. They can make custom cables for that carb setup. If you think that cable setup is difficult, try working on Kawasaki triples.
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 Күн бұрын
Thanks for the heads up. Never heard of them but just looked them up!!! Seem legit!
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 Күн бұрын
I’ve only worked in one Kawasaki and that was the carb only. Maybe one day I’ll get into a older Kawasaki build
@steveminshew
@steveminshew 14 күн бұрын
I’m having the same issue with my Murray carbs too
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 13 күн бұрын
It’s frustrating for sure. When did you buy them?
@steveminshew
@steveminshew 13 күн бұрын
@@zsgarage7710 A few years ago but I just finished the bike a few months ago. I notice that the sticking get worse as the bike warms up and if I snap the throttle open and closed the idle goes back to normal.
@GorhamAirsoft
@GorhamAirsoft Ай бұрын
That’s too bad that didn’t work out for you, i have a set on my 81 CX500 and it is a truly fantastic upgrade
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 Ай бұрын
Was it pretty much good out of the box? Or did you have to make a couple adjustments?
@mauricehill5782
@mauricehill5782 Ай бұрын
Bro I'm sorry that things didn't work out for you, the mikuni rs would really look good on your bike
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 Ай бұрын
it's all good. Learning experience! I'm going to order the Mikuni carbs soonish. Once I do, I'll make another video for them!
@nestorfuentescastillo6200
@nestorfuentescastillo6200 Ай бұрын
It's very tiring to try and try, I'm having the same problem and I was thinking of buying those carbs for my triumph but at this point I don't know.
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 Ай бұрын
It can be extremely frustrating. I totally get that when you have an older motorcycle, you are going to work on it. But, this was too much!
@nestorfuentescastillo6200
@nestorfuentescastillo6200 Ай бұрын
@@zsgarage7710 I already found carburetors and I am about to order them and the reviews are wonderful, I chose to buy keihin cr special 35mm dual and I have seen very good options for you
@daymonmarek946
@daymonmarek946 Ай бұрын
Before you return try a different throttle cable. Also sounds like you're running lean keeping that idle high
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 Ай бұрын
Definitely running lean. I’ve adjusted which makes it run better, but throttle cable sucks. Maybe I’ll give it a go with new throttle cables.
@SteveDave.
@SteveDave. Ай бұрын
Try the cognito moto air filter on the stock carburetor.
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 28 күн бұрын
Hmmmmm, I’ve seen them on there website. Gonna have to give them a go
@SteveDave.
@SteveDave. 28 күн бұрын
@zsgarage7710 Usually, the pod filters cause stock carbs to run lean. We can try more restrictive filters and / or larger fuel jets.
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 28 күн бұрын
@@SteveDave. I was checking out the cognito moto website. They suggest going with the dunk jet 130’s for the carbs. I went to the website and they advertise that the 130’s should be better for pod filters. Going to order that.
@SirChlorine
@SirChlorine 23 күн бұрын
Got a set from Murray a month ago. Having the same particular issue with a 1980 cb 650. Gonna try to do the new boot route and use carb spray to diagnose a possible vacuum leak. If I'm being honest, Murray isn't the happiest guy when it came to communication on the phone. From all the forums and videos I've seen, some people either have the best or the worst experience from him. It's a crap shoot :/ Might just say screw it and give it to motorcycle wizard to take a crack at it.
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 13 күн бұрын
He definitely is rough around the edges. The amount of people that are telling me that they are having issues with the throttle sticking is kind of alarming. Hopefully you get it figured out!
@SirChlorine
@SirChlorine 13 күн бұрын
@@zsgarage7710 Had mine looked at from this local guy who strictly works on Japanese 4 cylinders for over 40 years. Once I mentioned "Murray Carbs" he immediately frowned. He said that he dealt with a couple of bikes with the Murray Carb treatment with the same particular issue and claims those carbs and all carbs are not "plug and play". They require rejetting, synching and all of the goodness. Sure it fits, but all bikes are different even if they're the same model engine. (Compression numbers, timing, etc.)
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 13 күн бұрын
@@SirChlorine I mean, that totally makes sense. I think the fact that Murray states that this is plug and play is the problem. They definitely need tuning (mine ran rich). Good insight though! Appreciate it!
@SirChlorine
@SirChlorine 13 күн бұрын
@@zsgarage7710 Of course! Best of luck on the build! Went back to the 4 carbs. Gave them a bath, rebuilt them, installed some recommended jets from a couple forums, adjusted the clip on the needle and a bit of vacuum synching and it now runs like a clock. Even though it's more maintenance on paper, it's the way to go!
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 8 күн бұрын
@@SirChlorine I read about the different size jets! I purchased a syncing tool as well! I ended up picking up some new carbs.
@davidsnow2420
@davidsnow2420 Ай бұрын
Last month, got a Murrays Carbs kit with the solid mount manifolds for my 1975 CB550 with stock 4-4 pipes. The bike is now a hot rod. The transformation was startling and gratifying. I've probably put 500 miles on the set up and am really happy with it. The only issue is that about once per ride, the bike bogs and won't rev above 5K for about 1-3 minutes. It's like hitting a wall--- sluggish to no throttle response other than deceleration. Don't know if it's an issue with the cables or stuck slide. Last night the sluggish response lasted 15 minutes and I was concerned that the bike wouldn't have the power to climb the mountain roads to my house. Stopped to get groceries for about 5 minutes and the bike was back to being a hot rod. There is no good time to lose power on a motorcycle, and abrupt power loss can be downright dangerous. I think I'll lube the cables and see if that helps....
@laurentginalhac2783
@laurentginalhac2783 Ай бұрын
hi, spark plugs can drown due to too rich a mixture. Remove the spark plugs if they are very black and dirty with soot, the needle is too high
@davidsnow2420
@davidsnow2420 Ай бұрын
@@laurentginalhac2783 I'll check the plugs, but it's an intermittent problem seemingly immune to riding conditions. It has occurred while riding through town at a sedate 40 mph, and at 80 mph passing cars on the interstate--- which is quite embarrassing LOL
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 Ай бұрын
I was going to say the spark plugs. Maybe too rich?
@frankie1615
@frankie1615 19 күн бұрын
thats a fuel supply problem , either tap is partially blocked or tank /cap vent is not venting properly ,
@davidsnow2420
@davidsnow2420 19 күн бұрын
@@frankie1615 Yep. My mechanic said to try riding the bike with the cap open. Problem solved. Guess that 50 year old cap needs a rebuild!
@supastyler1
@supastyler1 5 күн бұрын
Go buy a injected bike. Carbs are a Labour of love, from my experience, don't put down a carb company due to your lack of knowledge about carbs, they need tinkering with weekly. I'm in Australia never heard of Murray carbs BTW.
@zsgarage7710
@zsgarage7710 Күн бұрын
I don’t disagree with you about the labor of love. But I disagree with you on the weekly tinkering. That’s not my experience from the multiple carbed bikes that I’ve owned. But when I get multiple emails about the same issue with these carbs, I don’t think it’s a me problem. But I could be wrong. I did do a lot of “tinkering” off camera and continued to have this problem.
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