Sorry guys I tried to include the actual interview… but KZfaq blocked it. I summarized it fairly accurately. If I can find the raw footage I’ll link it!

I had totally forgotten about that Hyman injury back in 2021. Makes sense that he would be frustrated with Edler’s menacing knee.

You're really filling a niche here on KZfaq, I've been looking for a channel like this for years. I love the "live update" feel and recap. Keep it up

The more disgusting thing in this game is how blind refs are, one game they would call 20 penalties in one period, another game they just let players swing the sticks around

The death of the enforcer is going to be a massive problem for the league. The goalie running problem is also going to continue to be exacerbated by the death of the enforcer. High level hockey should almost police itself.

Lifetime player and just want to say you have me more informed on the NHL then I have ever been, love all your videos. Keep up the amazing work!

“I’ve never seen an interview like this”. Proceeds to not show us the interview

I like the part where we watched the Hyman interview...

I'm not an Oilers or Leafs fan, but I have always liked Hyman's integrity and work ethic. If he has an issue with something, I will give him a sympathetic ear. Also agree with every word of the commentary. I hope the league understands how important McDavid is and addresses this stuff before it's too late.

Elder did this to Eric Staal in the 2013 world championships. 12/13 Staal was 6th in the entire league in points. After that knee on knee hit and the injury from it Staal was never quite the same.

I think you have one of the most in depth, straight to the point, and entertaining nhl video breakdown channel around. The use of old and new clips and clips from the game being mentioned are always spot on a fit perfectly in the video and the topic.

A stick to the face is brutal, but you can actually blow up someone’s knee going this fast. They need to take action against potential career-enders like this.

Hyman was absolutely fuming here kinda crazy to see the hockey persona crack

You’re completely right. I think McDavid, MacKinnon, and Matthews are the face(s) of the NHL, and if they were to get severely injured, that could negatively affect the watch minutes from fans who just watch for the dangles and crazy moves. If the NHL wants their profits to grow, they need to work on protecting their players from other stupid ones.

Had my knee blown out like that at the age of 15. Hockey career and baseball career over at a elite level. That is one of the most brutal plays along with blindside hits and stick work. The NHL is a business, it might come down to some players taking the league and the opposition player to court for the NHL to enforce its rules.

You had me until the very end when you mentioned what Gretzky had to put up with. Gretzky was untouchable. He had Semenko or McSorley most of his career to protect him. Mario Lemieux however had no one to protect him. Most of his goals are highlights of him scoring with 2 , sometimes 3 guys actually hanging on to him as he drags them up the ice .

I can't believe I'm this early to one of your videos, I just wanted to say I'm glad KZfaq recommended me your videos, I really enjoy your takes on hockey! Go Wild!

Love this channel so much, glad I found you early on before you have millions of subs. :)

"Never seen an interview like this". After watching this video, neither have I.

Look up Edler Eric Staal 2013 World Championship... Edler has been doing stuff like this for a while...

Fighting is a natural part of an aggressive high tempo game like hockey, they got rid of the enforcer but now you get all these dirty cheap shots making the enforcer look like a class act.

oliers kings will be a good rivalry this year

Still need an enforcer no matter what the bleeding hearts say.

If this wasn’t Mcdavid…no one would be talking about this.

Dude, your nhl takes are awesome. Reminds me of jomboy media baseball breakdowns, which are great..but a nhl version. Well done, keep it up

if only the NHL had a department that could address such incidents. They could work with both the league office and the NHLPA, they could award fines and suspensions for dangerous and unsportsmanlike conduct thus discouraging or even outright prohibiting this conduct. We could call it something very straightforward like "the NHL Department of Player Safety".... nah... thats absurd

You could have also added in the fact that the whole reason Kane isn't playing right now is because of a dirty slew foot which led to his injury. I feel like the NHL cracking down on the Enforcer mindset has caused players to just play dirty with things like slew foots, subtle knee on knees, and other dirty plays. It may not be outright and overtly dangerous, but it's getting guys seriously hurt. I'm not saying we need to bring in Goons, the refs need to do their jobs, and the DPS needs to start being able to review this stuff after the fact and dishing out meaningful punishments, especially in cases like Kane where the guy is now out for months.

I gotta say, this knee on knee doesn't look super intentional. edler kinda steps into McDavid but doesn't make any real effort to make knee on knee contact, if anything as McDavid is trying to avoid the hit he kind puts himself in a vulnerable position. just my opinion.

It almost looks like the two LA players go knee to knee too when you look at the frame you paused on.

The only good thing about that play is the fact that McDavid got up after it.

after that hit he was forced to play very safe for the rest of the game and got less minutes aswell

I remember seeing Giordano almost take out McDavid knee on knee once in a way that would've caused lots of damage and thinking, "Are you kidding me!!? You almost ruined us being able to watch probably the most skilled player ever in his prime." As a Canucks fan, I really love Edler, but my guy, seriously stop it. I want to see the most skilled player remain that way, and this is extremely cheap, and even if not fully intentional, just reckless.

Tamler Sommers, in his book Why Honour Matters, highlights why demolishing the honour code of the 80s and 90s makes hockey more dangerous. This situation is precisely what he's on to.

Not only never seen the interview, never heard the interview.

Cam Neely was my 2nd favorite player growing up, his career was ruined and eventually ended pre-maturely due to a similar cheap shot.

I wouldn't say Gretzky had to put up less yea he had some enforcers but look at the way the game was played back then. If they called games back then the way they call them now there would be 20 plus penalties a game for each team. The cross checking and slashing they got away with back then was insane.

We saw it a couple seasons ago in Pittsburgh. Guys were taking runs at everyone because we didn't have anyone to stand up for our guys. In today's hockey you still need that enforcer the only difference is they're most likely more skilled than they were in the 80s, 90s and 00s.

Injuries can not only wreck a career but change that person's life. I hate dirty plays like that. Legs, backs, necks, and eyes are too important.

*gets high sticked *Destroy the flyers for the rest of his career Crosby moment

This was the weakest knee on knee in the history of the NHL. Watch the reply. Connor jumped right into it.

I’m not defending Edler or hits like this but I do think they are almost always not done intentionally. This is a fast game with shifty players and I think it’s just human instinct to try and still get a piece of the player as much as you can when he’s just zigged to your zag.

zach kassian use to be a enforcer of sorts for them last year

The lack of enforcers is one issue, another glaring problem is the officials jumping in on the fights in an effort to stop them instead of letting them fully settle it…

Wow great interview

Thanks for showing the interview! Smh….

Something i just noticed is that the logo on the Oilers helmet slightly sticks out.

Agreed, but think what we missed because of Crosby's injuries, the time away and who knows what he could have acheived if he never suffered those injuries from 'bad' hits.

Fighting needs to come back even more

As usual Parros is in his office “looks clean to me”

An enforcer won’t help if Edler holds onto his gloves like he did while Nurse ragdolled him.

This was nowhere near what Edler did a few years ago, not even comparable. Edler never stuck his knee out and led with his shoulder but McDavid moved making contact with the knee. This is a giant overreaction because it’s McDavid and an enforcer wouldn’t have stopped this clear accidental knee collision.

Zach Hyman's intermission clip (in this video's screenshot) is on KZfaq, but his longer Post-Game take is available on the official Oilers YT channel. Search "POST-RAW | Zach Hyman 11.16.22". INTERESTINGLY, Connor flatly declined to comment on it AT ALL.

Knees were a regular dirty play back in the 90s. Kasparitus, Marchment, Samuelsson. We see one now and we act like it's never happened before.

Great job with the clickbait. You got me. 👍

Incredible……bring light to the situation. If the NHL can’t handle this than please Edmonton don something for us all and handle it yourselves….

I was at the game and I saw it in person

This is very familiar to the Hyman injury in like the same area of the ice as well😳

I would love to see some more enforcers in the league. But the game has gone away from that and the league doesn’t want fighting as the image of hockey anymore

Knee to knee hit is what ended Cam Neely's career. Nurse's response was correct and I would've liked to have seen a line brawl from EDM in response to this flagrant attempt at ending McDavid's career! Maybe we need a new rule for this! Maybe suspensions for knee to knee hits.

Dude, you are spot-on with your take. Of course, Kings fans are gonna say this was Mcdavids's fault, like come on. Edler is a dirty player and the fact that he did the exact same thing to Hyman just proves it. This kind of knee-on-knee hit should be severely punished. You could end a guy's career this way. Not cool.

Where's the interview?

I agree too knee on knee with speed worse then slew foot and big hits should be allowed even if head whiplashes but wasn't main point of contact

It's almost like as they have forced out fighting, enforcers, hits and created softer game. It has brought out the dirtier cheap plays, knee on knees, slashes to the wrist and slew foots.

Where is the interview?

no link ?

We need more enforcers and fighting to police the cheap shots. Officiating was descended into the realm of insanity. Touch a guy 2 minutes interference. Run a goalie, crickets 🦗. Long live the code! 🥊

Crosby has never had an enforcer and lost close to 2 full seasons due to dirty head shot from Steckel in Outdoor Classic game. Still an all-time great but would be further up the list for sure. Would presence of enforcer have prevented such a play ? Be interesting to ask Crosby and Gretzky that question.

Knee on knee and slew foots need to be treated on par with head injuries imo. All of them have a much higher statistical correlation with season ending and career ending injuries than other plays.

That is not a very similar play. The Toronto Vancouver hit was clearly knee on knee. Mcdavid trying to evade the hit is what led to the knee on knee contact. Another example of how it’s not similar is the knee on knee hit Doughty got injured from last season against the Stars.

This guy is the clickbait king of KZfaq.

Are you telling me that dirty moves are going up since the NHL did all they can to stop fightings ?! Imagine my shock.

Edler goes knee on knee with his own teammate even moreso lol

I agree with Zach Hyman, what Alex Edler did to McDavid was disgusting, and the NHL needs to do something with more severe punishments for these cheap shot hits that certain players in the league are commiting

Pretty simple: if you are called for a penalty that hurts a player - and the NHL agrees - that player is out for as long as the player he injured! SIMPLE

It was subtle knee to knee contact compared to the masters of yesteryear - the knee maestros such as marchment kasperitus, Samuelson…

I feel like hits that are more risky for injuries should have tougher penalties, because potentially ruining someone's career should be punished. The only caveat is I don't want it to become a soccer situation where people start faking injuries all the time, It's a fine line to balance and has to be handled intelligently.

I agree 100% they should be able to go back and investigate if he deliberately attempts this consistently

Any team that has 1 true superstar like a Connor McDavid on their team should ABSOLUTELY have a true blue Enforcer on the team as well. Like a Ryan Reaves or Zhedeno Chara, or even a "Big Rig" Jamie Oleksiak. If you don't have the Enforcer you will have to deal with players who are dirt like Tom Wilson, Brad "The Roach" Marchand or "IDK His first name" Edler taking cheap shots at said stars. It's just expected. On the Kraken we got a young up and comer named Matty Beniers who's already in rookie of the year talks. Someone on the Minnesota Wild took a run at him and missed but there was a fight immediately after when Jamie Oleksiak took his young forwards back. You MUST HAVE these enforcers on your team to watch the back of superstars

There was a time the NHL policed itself and as much as I like the art and precision of hockey and am not so into the fighting it's part of the game and these refs are next to useless anyway. Like back in the "Legion of Doom" days Lindros was so strong and fast he'd break guys ribs with his cross checks and stuff like that but then 2 concussions later (or however many)..like the Scott Stevens hit..I mean most would say it's just hockey but I thought then and still do it was basically the league self-policing itself, there are other examples too but we all know what happened to Lindros...long recovery....he became a kinder gentler version of himself and though he remained a great player, or at least a very good one he was NEVER the same.

I have watched this in slowmo 100 times now. This is a hockey play. This is a physical game. These things happen. I see no intentional extention of the leg. No purposeful movement of the leg to catch McDavid. The only movement is him turning his leg sideways to throw on the brakes. Truth is part of what makes McDavid so good is his agility. Well when you try to be agile to avoid hits you can sometimes put yourself in a dangerous situation. The difference between a player like McDavid and Patrick Kane (in his prime) is Kane wasn't wasn't aggressive as McDavid. He didn't make as many high risk plays and avoided contact altogether. McDavid is not afraid to skate into dangerous situations and try to juke through defenders. McDavid plays a dangerous game of hockey. It's part of what makes him so good, but also the reason he's going to suffer many injuries in his career. There was nothing dirty here. People are using Edler's history to try and paint him as purposely putting the knee there. McDavid made a dangerous play, and made it even more dangerous by trying to jump around him. The real question is, do you want McDavid to adapt his play the the NHL, or do you want the NHL to adapt to McDavid's play? Should hitting be removed to allow for more skillful play or should it be protected and skillful players need to be more careful?

It looked like there were three knees on knee in that hit? 🤔

Hyman is a class act. Always gives great interviews too

In Hockey you need a few Enforcers on your team . PERIOD!

Edmonton is missing Evander Kane big time.

I've never seen an interview like this either... Mostly because there wasn't an interview in this video

Hockey undoubtedly is one of the roughest sports out there, however, player safety should be a #1 priority. Apart from the immediate effects, some of these injuries can really lead to problems way later in life.

And after watching your video, I haven't seen the interview either.

Why didn’t you show the interview? Like the title says !

Would loved to have heard a bit of what Hyman said.

McDavid late last season was taking far too many priveleges with cheap shots of his own. It's give and take in hockey, next!

Dave Semenko was not on the fourth line. He was on the ice with Gretzky.

I LOVE HYMAN BEST GRINDER IN DA LEAGUE WISH HE WAS STILL A LEAF.

knee on knee incidents should probably be treated the same as targeting someone's head where players are subject to fines & suspensions.. good luck getting the NHL/owners & NHLPA to agree on anything though

Don’t forget Trouba’s famous chicken wings too.

Crosby at least had a bunch of killers on the penguins in his early years. Oilers need someone willing and able to dish out revenge. Actually the penguins need an enforcer right now too.. 60yr old jeff carter is probably their toughest player.

I agree. They should not bubble wrap McDavid. But when he draws 5 or 6 penalties a game, the refs should start calling more of them. He’s usually moving at such a high speed, it doesn’t take much to trip him up and it can be more dangerous.

Nurse did step in immediately which is good to see.

Im just so glad they added orange to the McFarlane jersey. Always loved the jersey but the colors were a bit bland.

“Cough” “cough” Sammuleson! Lol!

If you watch in slow motion, yes it is true that Mcdavid moves, but Edler's knee and leg are out in front of his shoulder to begin with, and then he also turns his leg and sticks it out to keep up with Mcdavid's change in direction