I wish I spoke some decent Italian and had the chance to meet more people there that did Maybe I'll be back some day

Bro not even 2% of the population of Rijeka is Italian, according to the 2021 census its 1.45%. Your family may speak Italian, but most people do not. In the whole county of Istria, 5% are Italian. You will find more Italians living on the westernmost parts of Istria.

@@ararune3734 I'm not saying the majority speak Italian but my dad's side of the family in Rijeka do speak Italian and have Italian name's.

@@Tommie.ManicGK Fair enough, but point being, if he's looking to find more Italian speakers, he'll have more luck on the western coast of Istria (Rovinj, Pula, Portorož, etc.)

I'm surprised someone still speak Italian there, weren't all surviving Italians deported after the war?

Thanks! If you know people that you think would enjoy it too and could share it with them. That'd help me a lot

i'll check. i couldn't hear nothing. just some babbling.

yeah, it sounds like italian. though i couldn't exactly make anything out either. maybe a "basta" or two and maybe a "muovati!". it didn't quite sound slavic. don't quote me.

I found out about the town based on some old census data referenced on Wikipedia. But there isn’t amazingly precise or recent information out there. But one thing that’s for certain is that the costal region of Istria still has a lot of Italian influence including Italian families and as second language Italian is even more common there.

Yes, you are very fucking WRONG, you Italian ass-kisser !!! 😮

Confermo italiano

Il conte Giuseppe Viscovich (Perasto, 1728 - Perasto, 1804) è stato un militare veneziano. Fu l'ultimo capitano veneziano di Perasto (oggi in Montenegro), ultimo territorio rimasto fedele alla Serenissima. Il 23 agosto del 1797, dopo più di tre mesi dalla caduta della repubblica di Venezia per mano francese,i cittadini di Perasto si radunarono davanti al palazzo del Capitano della città[ per seppellire il gonfalone della serenissima. Davanti alla folla inginocchiata, il Capitano Giuseppe Viscovich tenne un discorso in lingua slava /croata:/il Giuramento di Perasto, altrimenti conosciuto come Ti co nu, nu co ti (nella traduzione in veneto)/ ma in realtà tutto il discorso è stato tenuto in croato / mi s tobum ti s nami/ Fu tradotto in italiano dal nipote, che lo pubblicò nel libro Perasto edito a Trieste nel 1878. e cosa c'entra la Dalmazia e Istria Veneta con l'Italia? L'Italia fu fondata nel 1861 e ricevette Venezia "in dono" dalla Francia dopo la sconfitta dell'Austria da parte della Prussia vicino a Sadowa nell 1866./ L’Austria si rifiutò di consegnare direttamente Venezia all’Italia, cedendola invece alla Francia, e quest’ultima all’Italia./

I know, if I could do it again I would've explained it better but I think the end result is alright, hope you still enjoyed it. Plan to make more similar stuff a few months from now

Can you speak italian in Zagabria?

@@robertveneziani4799 Nope not really, Just parts of Istria and maybe some of the islands

Dalmatia was part of the Byzantine territory in the early middle ages. According to "De Administrando Imperio" written by the 10th-century Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII, the Croats had arrived in Roman province of Dalmatia in the first half of the 7th century. In the early 9th century, the Eastern Adriatic coast including Dalmatia was the scene of the sphere of influence struggle between the Frankish and Byzantine Empire, but although the Byzantines have retained supremacy, Dalmatia became a meeting place between the West and the East. It's only with the 4th crusade in 1204 that the Byzantine power could no longer be projected in the area, the Venetians started expanding and clashed with Croats and Hungarians (because Croatia and Hungary entered a personal union a hundred years prior through marriage shennanigans). The idea that Dalmatia was Italian is just absurd, many Latins lived there, as is the case with everywhere in that era, people moved, borders weren't a thing. It's also not true that "Dalmatia and istria" had Latin population and "other part of Croatia had other population", it's simply untrue, the Latins and Slavs lived side by side and mingled. The hostilities were very limited after the Christianization of Croats. It's a story of Latins trying to project power onto eastern Adriatic, and they failed, but to say it was Italian, when there was no concept of Italy at the time, when the first Italy was created in 1861, you can see the absurdity of these claims. United to Italy? No, annexed. My grandpa was born in Italian occupied parts of Dalmatia, I know a decent bit about it. I really don't understand where Italians get the idea that these belonged to Italy, they were occupied as part of various wars, doesn't mean they were theirs to keep. Ultimately demography is destiny.

This was for a small period, and before Croatia was independet. So why is this so important?

350.000 esuli italiani da Fiume,Istria e Dalmazia.1945-1954.

italians were not small minority in istria, according to the Austrian census in 1910, 386,000 inhabitants lived in Istria, of which 38.1% (147,417) were Italians. 43,5% (168.184) were croats, 14,3% (55.134) were slovens.With the fact that Italians represented over 80% of the population in the cities of western Istria/ Kopar, Novigrad, Portorož, Umag, Rovinj...// Capodistria, Cittanova, Portorose, Umago, Rovigno..../ Acording to austrian census italians were also well represented in Dalmazia town of Krk ( Veglia) (1880): 1.541 italians of 1.562 citises - 98,6% Rab( Arbe) (1880): 567 of 811 - 69,9% Pag (Pago)(1880): 785 of 3.527 - 22,3% Boka Kotorska Bocca di Cattaro (1880): 689 of 2.949 - 23,4% Trogir ( Trau) (1880): 1.960 of 3.129 - 62,6% Split Spalato (1880): 5.280 of 14.513 - 36,4% Šibenik Sebenico (1890): 1.018 of 6.921 - 14,7% Zadar Zara (1910): 9.318 of 14.056 - 66,3%

And they all ran away - I guess with a clear conscience

@@pankogulo after the First World War, about 50,000 Croats emigrated from Istria to the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. About 60,000 Italians immigrated to Istria by 1924 / army, civil servants, teachers/. After the Second World War, the exodus from Istria lasted until 1954. A total of about 320,000 people, among esuli there was also a large number of Istrian Croats who did not want to live under communism, their number is estimated at about 50,000.They mostly settled in North America and Australia.

I have family on both sides. For me Italian fascists and Yugoslav communists are same scum. But before Tito's killers no Croat ever started any enmity to Italians.

Well I looked it up and from what I could find almost all of Croatia is Roman Catholic only close to the Bosnian border it becomes more Orthodox. But still I can't find much on this church specifically

@@LewisWirth The church door looking on west?

@@predragmilovanovic4710 Because of how the door looks? I don't know mate, couldn't find anything about it online, you can try to find it yourself the town is called Grožnjan

@@LewisWirth church is catholic, first it was dedicated to the Virgin Mary, and later to saints Vito, Modesto e Crescenzia./ martyrs in the Roman arena/. There were no orthodox people in this part of Istria so there are no ortodox churches. You can find montenegrinos /settled in the 17th century/ in area of Pula, so there are two orthodox churches, / St Nicolas in Pula. /previosly catholic, donated to orthodox people in 1657/, and orthodox church in village of Peroj near Pula.

churches / both Catholic and Orthodox / are built so that the altar is in the east, and the entrance door is in the west. /Jusus is like the sun, he is born in the east/ But some, for some strange reason, think that Catholic churches are built with a different orientation. You can also find churches with a different spatial orientation, but that is in cities where the construction was in some cases conditioned by urban plans / layout of streets and squares/. For examle in Zagreb the cathedral, the church of St. Mark, the church of St. Catherine, St. Jerome in Bukovečka street, and St. Paul in Retkovac have an entrance from the west / correct / side. Church of Saint Peter's Church in Zagreb has an entrance on the south side, and the Church of Saint Mary in Trnovčica, / Zagreb/ entrance from the north side.