I Watched EVERY Kpop Survival Show - Are Kpop Survival Shows A Good Idea?

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I WATCHED ALMOST EVERY KPOP SURVIVAL SHOW OUT THERE! Because I've always wondered if Kpop survival shows are successful for the idols that debut out of those survival shows? So what's the best way to measure anything a KZfaq? Yup, a tier list! From the Produce 101 series and Girls Planet 999 to self-made survival shows like SIXTEEN and I-LAND.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:01 Finding Momoland
2:39 Girls Planet 999
4:16 I-LAND
5:23 Idol School
6:55 LOUD
8:01 MIXNINE
9:25 My Teen Girl
10:01 NO MERCY
10:29 WIN Who Is Next/ Mix & Match
11:46 Produce Series
13:42 SIXTEEN
15:06 YG Treasure Box
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@InternetsNathan Жыл бұрын

*Stray Kids survival show… S TIER*

@indijoe Жыл бұрын

Is that even a survival?

@nyuanaranjadito Жыл бұрын

@@indijoe yea, it is

@indijoe Жыл бұрын

@@nyuanaranjadito no one eliminated

@lmojica9238 Жыл бұрын

@@indijoe technically theres someone eliminated but jyp gave a chance if they prove it to the final performance that they are compatible as a team

@hgseeker Жыл бұрын

@@indijoe Felix and Lee Know were eliminated but JYP gave them a second chance to earn their spots and prove Stray Kids should be 9 instead of 7

@neverneverland5836 Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry but "my teenage girl" is the creepiest name for any show I've heard of, especially one that involves minors 😂😭

@Will_nce Жыл бұрын

That’s why they named it that 😐

@light_bit Жыл бұрын

Actually if the name was translated from the Hangul .it will called "excitement after school". Incase you don't know. The PD was behind the season one of produce series. Which he also produce, sixteen, mixnine, and unpretty rapstar

@neverneverland5836 Жыл бұрын

@@light_bit that makes a lot more sense, and it sounds a lot better lol

@han9488 Жыл бұрын

no for real, when i was watching it i looked up ‘my teenage girl’ on tiktok to see vids about it and it was BLOCKED like how they do for inappropriate words

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Жыл бұрын

Yeah and my teenage boy is next year. I’ll watch boys planet but not that

@momosphynx1567 Жыл бұрын

Out of all shows the most succesful one is definitely SIXTEEN, not only because well... They made TWICE, that alone is the top selling girlgroup. But! Also has a vast amount of participants that, they didn't win yes, but were still massively successful! Somi, the Lee Sisters, etc etc.

@izumibin1913 Жыл бұрын

Twice ain't the only grouo who has experience that kind of achievement. Bigbang has also survival show history, look at them now they are KPOP LEGENDARY of all time.

@momosphynx1567 Жыл бұрын

@@izumibin1913 never said is the only one and I am talking about the ones showed in the video... nice for bigbang

@Tudunggiejjang Жыл бұрын

@@izumibin1913 no one said that it's an achievement? 💀

@Tudunggiejjang Жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree and also I loved how the other girls ( mostly ) who didn't get to debut as "TWICE" are popular and successful ❤

@izumibin1913 Жыл бұрын

@@momosphynx1567 "OUT OF ALL SHOWS MOST SUCCESSFUL IS SIXTEEN" Like seriously ?? 🤦🏻‍♀

@bellereinette2938 Жыл бұрын

Fromis_9's story as a whole (the from a survival show to being ridiculously neglected by their former company to joining Pledis & Hybe) is actually pretty insane!

@Alineebastos Жыл бұрын

Stray Kids the show was worth mentioning because it had a different format since the idea wasn’t to eliminate but to test what was already formed. I think the show itself was just stressful for them and didn’t add much, but today they are one of the biggest groups of global scale.

@YoongisRapin Жыл бұрын

pentagon maker and the skz survival show had this format! both were interesting watches for sure

@nikienhypen6334 Жыл бұрын

Bit the elimination still happened Bit after Chan secretly convincing JYP they all debuted 😂

@lamia4511 Жыл бұрын

@@nikienhypen6334 honestly I think the eliminations were just for show from the beggining and JYP just wanted to add some drama or something

@stacie1595 Жыл бұрын

Its also notable because Chan formed the group and all their performances were self produced.

@laura.elizaa Жыл бұрын

I didn't watch Produce season 4, I didn't even know that it existed until the scandal came out. I never listened to X1's debut. But I feel so bad for those boys. It's not their fault that the show was rigged, and to have their dream ripped from them so soon into their careers, must have been awful for them. I hope they find success in other kpop groups

@joelreyes4237 Жыл бұрын

True and I'm not a fan of X1 and they didn't get paid too if I remember well somewhere on his channel or a different video or read somewhere

@cherryblossom7120 Жыл бұрын

Those poor boys, how do people of mnet sleep at night knowing they sabotage 101 trainees chance's at success?

@inbluehour Жыл бұрын

I watched the whole show, saw their debut, became a one-it in no time and saw all the talent and the potential that the boys had until the scandal happened. I was so devastated because I couldn't do anything to help them, it was such a hard time, no one should ever get to experience that pain.

@wendykpop Жыл бұрын

Produce X 101 was really good and X1 were really successful and popular, like they were the most successful rookie boy group that debuted in 2019, but unfortunately the scandal ruined everything

@SwissArmyDud Жыл бұрын

The rigged topic came from before X1, Produce 48 was literally blunt when they announced their final line up. Leaving Ga Eun out after literally she being between top 5 every single voting round was a slap on the face to everyone. We might never know who were the final 2 trainees who got selected for Izone and kind of it really doesn't matter

@hanniefrei Жыл бұрын

I LOVE ILAND so much, for me it's so entertaining but it was traumatizing because I loved almost all the trainees so i really wanted them all to succeed. Also the boys had to work on everything themselves that some trainees like Ni-Ki was pressured to teach his competitors and when he wanted to focus on himself since he gets a low rank each time, some knetz called him out saying he was selfish, the hate train began for him there. Like he was still 14, not fluent in Korean and he was expected to teach them when ILand should have trainers or teachers help the trainees.

@Commenter20 Жыл бұрын

😔

@bella-hi4oo Жыл бұрын

Not only Ni-ki but Heeseung too..

@bunnyen- Жыл бұрын

Where our enha boys debuted ❤

@lowrah_ Жыл бұрын

I think it was better for them to not have teachers actually, they had the basics down and the experience taught them a bit of self reliance and responsibility. I think that makes a better group in the long run. But they should have had a language teacher though, that’s just difficult to do by yourself😓

@aizzaasen6465 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, that experience only made him stronger. Now he's easily recognized as one of the best 4th gen kpop dancers.

@christianmarling Жыл бұрын

The best thing, and only thing, we got from Mixnine are the friendships between all these groups afterwards. But one could've only imagined what could've been. Also good idea of Happyface to withdraw the Dreamcatcher members early. Also missing is obviously Stray Kids. And while I agree with iKon pushing Mix&Match to S tier, the ending of the show was F tier.

@rose-nn3wj Жыл бұрын

I-land was interesting in the sense that it had way less contestants and the guys were pretty much their own tutors (minus the sometimes appearances of the coaches who were… pretty useless). It felt way more authentic since the editing felt a bit less squeaky clean and showcased the personalities of the boys a bit more (at least for an mnet show). So it’s no surprise that many people are still attached to it and even go out of their way to rewatch it years later.

@kentlanticse2483 Жыл бұрын

Izone could've been the next big thing if they had a 7 year contract. I love their new groups but them as one is starting to sweep everything until they disband.

@HPFan4Life81 Жыл бұрын

Survival shows tend to be temporary

@jess-so6ee Жыл бұрын

@@HPFan4Life81 im pretty sure they know that. they just described the potential of izone if they had a typical contract

@mariunfabregas7533 Жыл бұрын

Izone WERE the next big thing though. If I'm not mistaken, they were the best selling 4th gen K-pop group of 2020, outselling even the 4th gen boygroups

@squiggle.64 Жыл бұрын

@@mariunfabregas7533 agreed, IZ*ONE were probably the most popular 4th gen gg theres been and i guess you could say they still are because of how popular the groups theyre now debuting in are

@xoxo-wd9bv Жыл бұрын

izone held a lot of girls back. and some girls and boys in the male season only go on survival shows like this to launch acting careers. wizones forcing them to continue makes no sense. hyewon and minju especially want to be actors

@rubenjoe7488 Жыл бұрын

X1 was going to be absolutely MASSIVE if they were still together. I just can't imagine how big they would've been at the end of their contract that would've ended in 2024. Such and unfortunate situation.

@lavistelle6031 Жыл бұрын

My favorite is I-land. On top of the amazing setting, this survival show knew the kind of group they wanted to create and the challenges reflected that. The final group had to have great versatility and dance skills and insanse stage presence and they managed to obtain that. Not to mention I-land had a lot of original songs and they were all bangers, especially Flicker and I & Incredible. Can't wait for I-land 2 and their new girl group, I hope they'll be as successful as Enhypen.

@suyeesia7770 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@teumoangene2847 Жыл бұрын

I love survival shows but I don't wanna stan the groups knowing they're just temporary and will disband after 2-3 years. Like, all that drama and pain the idols and I went through, they'll just disband??? That's why I love i-land. After going through the whole survival drama show, it felt so worth it stanning Enhypen.

@xoxo-wd9bv Жыл бұрын

are u kidding, because the editing is terrible and it seems to forced. like technically hybe don't need cj to create a group for them. and it's totally rigged. like the editing .. they could just send anyone to ground, whoever they liked and producers would send them up. so they can just create some victim narrative. they did this for sunoo, they'll do it for a girl in next season and evil edit the rest. it's a terrible show. what saved them was how good they perform as a group, having decent music, especially drunk-dazed and fever, and half of them bighit trainees, who are like unicorns in the industry .. and then also a great creative team behind them. =

@lavistelle6031 Жыл бұрын

@@xoxo-wd9bv The editing was WAY better than the Produce series, especially when it came to performances. It's not rigged lol. During the entire show they painted Ni-ki in a bad light and he still managed to debut and he's now the most popular member. "Evil editing" did nothing to him. And thet hyped K a lot, but still he didn't manage to debut and wasn't chosen by the producers who picked Sunoo. Glad he is in &Team now tho. Obviously it was a show where the producers had a lot more power compared to the Produce series, but it doesn't mean it's rigged. The producers wanted a specific kind of group and they made specific challenges to obtain it. Talented trainees like Genou simply didn't fit the image. It wasn't 100% fan voted, so it's normal the producers' choices had more impact. No one suffered because of evil editing, I would say Jay proved how you can still avoid being evil edited even when the storyline tries to create conflict. I respect him a lot for this. It's not I-land's fault that Sunghoon, Jay, Heeseung, Jake and Jungwon spent all the show together. It was clear they were meant to be in a group and the audience saw it. It was to be determined whom among Sunoo, Ni-ki and K woul join them. The only controversial thing that happened in I-land was Hanbin's elimination. He was clearly a fan-favorite but the producers didn't want him and so they threw him out just when he started to climb up the rankings. They had obviously other plans for him (they let him have a solo performance at the new year Hybe concert), but he left the company and is now in Tempest. I'm glad he managed to debut because he was the one who was treated unfairly in I-land.

@lavistelle6031 Жыл бұрын

@@teumoangene2847 you are right, there is no better feeling than stanning a group after following a survival show, especially if your picks made it. You just know the group better and the bond with them is stronger. All my picks from I-land made it into Enhypen (and K is now debuting with &Team) so I was super happy to stan the group. Usually in the survival shows I watched (like Girls planet) I only have ONE pick and I would sacrifice anyone else to see them debut lol. But in I-land Sunghoon was my main pick since day 1, but during the show I grew attached to all the members of Enhypen and I really wanted them to debut. I'm already thrilled for next year when we will finally be able to come back inside that building with all the new trainees. It will be amazing. I want to see Enhypen's reaction to coming back there. The emotions!!!

@spivel6742 Жыл бұрын

i love I-land and Enhypen so much that i think i've watched the show five times 😭 idk why its my comfort show considering its so traumatising

@teumoangene2847 Жыл бұрын

Same. Maybe coz we know they're not just a temporary group? I felt more attached. 😭

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Жыл бұрын

@@teumoangene2847 yeah and I watched ATBO’s survival show and they’re not temporary either

@aizzaasen6465 Жыл бұрын

Same here. I love watching how hard the members worked and grew from the experience.

@tangerinu_u Жыл бұрын

can i ask where u watched it?? I'm interested in watching survival shows but don't know where to watch them.

@spivel6742 Жыл бұрын

@@tangerinu_u i watched I-land on Rakuten Viki! it comes with a lot of adds so be warned but atleast it's free and it doesn't come with any sketchy pop-ups 😭 hope this helps :DD

@aizzaasen6465 Жыл бұрын

For me, I-Land showcased the most authentic feelings of the contestants and seems the least scripted. There weren't many sob or heroic stories like other survival shows.

@thamynunis297 Жыл бұрын

I-land is top tier for me it's like a really amazing show that can make you so so happy and then 5 min later make you cry like a river, i'm glad that the final team are being so successful, Enhypen really deserves!!!

@vanessarayfox Жыл бұрын

The fact Ateez's San, one of the top idols today, didn't even make the cut for MixNine. Goes to show that hard work and perseverance can pay off!

@lovejoyradio Жыл бұрын

I was shocked to find out Mingi & Wooyoung made it to MixNine because you never saw them. I do remember Jongho's high notes and Hongjoong's smile left a lasting impression that I recognized them when I found ATEEZ.

@tracyyan1688 Жыл бұрын

@@lovejoyradio they didn't have any screen time at all, the very good performance Wooyoung appear less then 5 seconds they rank were high for beginning

@thursdayschildhasfartogo Жыл бұрын

@@lovejoyradio I'm an ATINY and I literally never knew until reading your comment 🧍‍♀ well

@lovejoyradio Жыл бұрын

@@thursdayschildhasfartogo it's crazy i missed them even when rewatching and looking for them!

@farruxagenstvo Жыл бұрын

I-Land was only survival show that made cry. Actually watched a lot of shows but it was most traumatizing one

@celinia5658 Жыл бұрын

My opinion: Every Kpop Survival Show I watched seemed to think that if there wasn't a crying teen every twenty minutes, people would get bored. Can't say that I like that. And don't get me started on Evil Editing. There has to be a villain sometimes viewers eat just everything up. There are some rules when it comes to reality shows, kpop or not. The most basic on is, NEVER believe an reaction shot. If there face is the only thing on the scene and you can't see what is happening in the frame, they could be reacting to literally anything. Or their nose is just itch or there tired from smiling. But Survival Show performance are god tier, so I always get weak and up watching.

@rando12345 Жыл бұрын

One of my favorite survival shows is THE UNI+. It had a really unique concept (that ultimately failed). There were so many recognizable contestants (ONEWE (MAS), Junyoung, Hangyul, A.C.E, DIA, Dalshabet, Euijin, Hyunjoo, etc) and a truly iconic panel of judges (Rain, Taemin, AND HyunA?!). It really sucks that UNB and UNI.T didn't gain the popularity they deserved. If anyone reading this hasn't heard of them I really recomend you check them out. I recommend Feeling (UNB) and No More (UNI.T).

@ariararia 5 ай бұрын

It was mine too

@e.i.3077 Жыл бұрын

SIXTEEN will forever be the best survival show of all time and you cannot convince me otherwise. All Kpop trainees have talent but no other had the charms or personality that TWICE had. Plus, I love JYP’s kinder approach, they grew being nurtured and not traumatized which is something the entire industry desperately needs.

@tegarlagajoebhaar8936 Жыл бұрын

Pentagon Maker was a good survival show. I also watched snippets of “The Origin-A, B, or What?” (the show that created ATBO). Cube may not have the best track record, but Pentagon Maker was good from start to finish, no scandals, and every member had the chance to showcase their songwriting skills as well as musical skills in addition to vocal & dance. Like Momoland, Pentagon’s earlier songs weren’t too recognized until Shine came along. Initially a sleeper hit, Shine became big. Gorilla, Dr Bebe & Hmph are great singles too. The most common songwriters of the group are Hui, Dawn (2016-2018) & Kino, but other members have showcased their musical creativity too. ATBO’s show was good. But in your Tier List, WIN, Who’s Next & Mix & Match were great. In general, I like groups that are self-producing. Pentagon Maker should be in A. It had emotion, personality and flair.

@cherishe9400 Жыл бұрын

YGTB was so raw and emotional i loved it

@yxsm8308 Жыл бұрын

for kep1er I am surprised you did not mention Bahiyyih and Xiaoting their popularity def helps but all love to the girls

@InternetsNathan Жыл бұрын

Oh of course! Still an S tier show!

@HPFan4Life81 Жыл бұрын

@@InternetsNathan You forgot the show that produced 2 AM & 2 PM I believe it was Collaboration between yg & JYPE

@BubbleBunny514 Жыл бұрын

The contestants suffered a lot emotionally from No Mercy.... The Monstas avoid talking about it whenever they can and when they do talk about it, there is no fondest whatsoever. They were all told this was basically their only and last opportunity to debut because they were "getting too old", they were not called by their names but by their ranking, their privacy was often intruded upon as they were expected to be available for filming 24/7, some of the judging was overly harsh and pretty much every single one of them was in tears throughout the show... but yes, we're grateful for Monsta X, but f*** No Mercy....

@clarimm6675 Жыл бұрын

I was searching for a comment like this! I LOVE Monsta X but omg the show was so brutal and yes, I totally agree that they were making the boys believe that this was their last chance, which is honestly probably the reason that they could get away with being so harsh on them... I feel so bad for all of them but especially Changkyun who was introduced super late into the show and obviously that made the others hate him. Even today, they all dodge questions about how they were formed which is a telltale sign that they suffered a great deal during the show

@samanthamwaa Жыл бұрын

X1 was a major threat to the whole 4th gen when they debuted. they only had one album and they were breaking records left and right. IMAGINE IF THEY WERE STILL TOGETHER

@clarimm6675 Жыл бұрын

Idk whether I have just not seen enough shows like this, but I'm surprised that you didn't mention the brutal conditions during "No Mercy", especially the fact that they added Changkyun so late into the show which made the others literally hate him and he suffered greatly from this. Even today, they don't want to talk about it, it seems to be a sore spot for all of them

@citizencr4o Жыл бұрын

I'm addicted to K-Pop survival shows. My all-time favorites were MIXNINE, Produce 48, and Produce 101. Got really invested in voting for Girls Planet 999 and My Teenage Girl, and now I'm trying my best to support "CLASS:y" because of the time and voting investment I put into K-Pop survival shows.

@syafiqaszamin6411 Жыл бұрын

I like My Teenage Girl too, its my first survival show i watch and really like how everyone progressing every episode. The challenge and battle is interesting too.

@gwenmloveskpopcecmore Жыл бұрын

@@syafiqaszamin6411 mine was I land

@iwasthebugatsowoozoomuster2021 Жыл бұрын

I-land, Produce 101 S2 and GP999 are so close to my heart. These shows created some of the best K-pop groups ever.

@jcr1842 Жыл бұрын

For me even tho they weren’t mentioned, the creation of JBJ and UNB will always have a special place in my heart. These were some of the first survival show groups I followed along with wanna one and ioi, and although they weren’t as famous I listened to their songs soooo muchhh.

@143szns Жыл бұрын

I miss UNB 😞

@ptshanut Жыл бұрын

yes!! i love this survival and missing UNB and JBJ :(

@naomijacob7177 Жыл бұрын

Personally, the first survival show that I was fully invested in was the one for Stray Kids. The rollercoaster of emotions, the trainee cameos from soon-to-be famous groups, and the fact that the debut team was formed by Chan himself- Honestly got to be top 3

@louisxD Жыл бұрын

You forgot The Unit: Idol Rebooting Project from when Uni.T came from

@yerinbaekscandlelight Жыл бұрын

I actually think The Unit is notable as well, even though it kinda failed. Uni.T's songs are both bops and it brought back amazing idols for a second chance, like Suji and Hyunjoo, and also bringing more popularity to other smaller groups, like Laboum and Sonamoo and Dia. Imagine not having WooWoo 😞😞😞

@ChaBillyVang Жыл бұрын

My Teenage Girl is underrated. I’ve seen all of these survival shows and that one is definitely the most organized, most fair, and the contestants were all so talented.

@RRomeoM Жыл бұрын

I agree. And most of them were raw talent. Only few of them had training.

@thursdayschildhasfartogo Жыл бұрын

Really? I remember watching a video a while ago explaining how that survival show was literally a huge mess ☠

@ChaBillyVang Жыл бұрын

@@thursdayschildhasfartogo Hmmm.. I definitely think judgement is up to the person. I personally felt My Teenage Girl was pretty organized. All opinions are respected.

@maheephoenix4398 3 ай бұрын

I have watched the show and I agree. There were so many talented trainees plus the mentors were so nice. But I didn’t like there selection system. Also, I feel bad for the group cuz the girls are crazy talented but they aren’t as famous as other survival show groups.

@AlM22 Жыл бұрын

My favourite is I-LAND! Such an interesting concept plus of course I'm so happy we got Enhypen from it

@Toy_In_Tub 11 ай бұрын

Iland was so watchable as a reality show. We can see the skills and character development of the contestants especially in part 2. They had such contrasting images and were left to fend for themselves most of the time. It really felt like a survival show

@kvrizv Жыл бұрын

MIXNINE was a failure as a show, but over the years I've found so many groups I really enjoy with members that competed there. There's half of ATEEZ, the original seven that made up ONF, the majority of DREAMCATCHER, and one or two members from groups like LOONA, ONEUS, ITZY, CIX, PURPLE K!SS, Billlie, TAN, KINGDOM, PIXY, Weeekly, MYTEEN and later B.O.Y, A.C.E., and so many more that all appeared on the show. TREASURE it feels like could face some uncertainty. With Mashiho and Bang Ye Dam leaving now, along with the pre-debut departure of Ha Yoon Bin, they've lost nearly a fourth of the original lineup. Looking back now, it feels like there was a lot of hype surrounding Bang Ye Dam's inclusion throughout the show, so now that one of the more prominent main vocals has left it feels a little shaky. My Teenage Girl was pretty much a mess, though not entirely surprising considering at it's core MBK was behind it. Definitely a lot of talent there, but most were far too young, and of the trainees that were either the most ready to debut in Grade 3, or at a last chance to debut in Grade 4, none from Grade 3 made it, and three from Grade 4. Even then, there's a seven year age gap between the oldest and youngest member of CLASS:y. I would almost hope when it's all said and done that Hyungseo, Chaewon, and Hyeju, the three eldest members, get a chance to have a VIVIZ type moment post-CLASS:y.

@light_bit Жыл бұрын

Well, we can blame the voters. Because as far as i know. Majority of the voters on MTG was around the age of grade 1 - early grade 3. As far. Class:y doing kinda fine which they now sold a half of entire DIA sales. I just hope the number not even drop because, even the CEO was part of DIA. She not even treat DIA properly after DIA moved under her management. Plus, they not even comeback until they disband (which is ironic because. They announced Will have comeback on early 2021). My speculation was. This was what MBK want when they want to debuting DIA.

@izumibin1913 Жыл бұрын

You can't say that mixnine is a failure just because mixnine winners didn't debut due yo companies who didn't agree with the terms. But you will see that mixnine is a success because Most of artist that came in mixnine are really talented esp when they csme out. They already knew what or how to improve and deal facing reality. It also help them to recognize their skills remember that most of vocalist there became a rapper and they turn out so well. They also have showed their creativity in that show and learn a lot with each other

@laikristine2153 Жыл бұрын

Crying as a Wizone and Oneit. My favourite was iland for sure, but it was both traumatising and a roller coaster of emotions as the rankings of my bias was pretty unstable. I had to continuously vote so that he would debut. I also kinda liked the fact that they had to send trainees to the ground themselves, to make the perfect team. I feel like it was good because they trained together and could clearly see how much work they put into practising and what they were lacking. The fact that they could choose their parts based on their own abilities and not what they were assigned was AMAZING They could show case what they were good at. Not to mention, they had a lot of original songs that I still go back to listen to today

@carina1749 Жыл бұрын

Wasn't StrayKids (the show) technically a survival show?

@InternetsNathan Жыл бұрын

Kind of… like it’s very similar to SIXTEEN

@avabluestay8248 Жыл бұрын

Yes, stray kids was a survival show but it was very much different from most other survival shows In other survival shows trainee are kinda made to compete against each other to win a spot in the final debuting team whereas in skz's show , the debuting team already had 9 members hand picked not by jype but leader Chan himself and this show was meant to prove to their company and jyp that all the 9members in the team are worth debuting and were put to the risk of elemination on failing to do so. Felix and Lee Know actually got eleminated during show, but we're brought back to compare and identify if Stray Kids, as a group is better'with 7 or 9 members In the end they chose to debut skz with all 9 original members. Woojin later left Skz and jyp for personal reasons leaving skz the Jyp double million seller 4th gen leader we know today. Based on skz's current success I would rank Stray kids (show) - 'S' tier.

@moon.mp3578 Жыл бұрын

we love to see Nathan calling KPOP Junkee a "creepy guy" at 0:37 LMAOOO 💀

@KPOPJunkee Жыл бұрын

ex-CUH-USE ME?!

@zaprude Жыл бұрын

MIXNINE is my all time favorite survival show. The stages and the cover songs they put on were INCREDIBLE! And you could tell that the mood among the contestants was amazing. It had a very creative spirit.

@zfnashawolsone Жыл бұрын

i agree!! their original music (not the cover songs) are the best!! like there were no bad music at all as compared to other survival shows' original music which have at least 1 or 2 that were bad

@izumibin1913 Жыл бұрын

Yas so true. Yg survuval shows really showed their skills and reality of being an idol. In mixnine you can witness what happened if you didn't cooperate in a team and just thinking about yourself. There's a girl there in mixnine that she claim al position ended up saving herself than her members. Like her position was main vocal, main dancer, leader, center and etc like girl soloist & a back up dancer? XD

@splendore.ngrandeur3599 Жыл бұрын

I loved I-LAND tbh I can't wait for s2 it brought out all the trainees had in them and prepared them for what it means to be an idol and I mean the crazy drama part of it. Seemed more authentic. My only regret was not getting K debut in enhypen but I understood the painful decision.

@StarLightGurl16 Жыл бұрын

Starship also had boy group BOYFRIEND which had 6 members, Min Woo, Dong Hyun, Kwang Min, Young Min, Jeong Min and Hyun Seong

@80s_graffiti Жыл бұрын

Who also made one of my favorite comeback teaser vids of all time: the iconic water dance.

@Lina-ls8hr Жыл бұрын

I watched win who is next/mix & match, no mercy, produce season2 and sixteen. I love groups that came out from these shows.

@isumisakuraba1819 Жыл бұрын

No mercy was hell for the trainees tho. Yeah Monsta X is phenomenal but they keep saying they didn’t like No Mercy. Quoting Minhyuk: “Hell broadcasting”

@talgranov1327 Жыл бұрын

I actually waited for skz survival show cause this one is so different and the fact that the kids made everything by themselves it just makes it so much better

@AnimeIntroStyles4 Жыл бұрын

I only watched Sixteen and it is very interesting as a Once, but it is also true they definitely went through a lot of unnecessary pain.

@decide2think Жыл бұрын

I agree with you that Mixnine had a disaster ending, plus add that YG was a dick especially to Haseul! But I loved that Heejin and Hyunjin were in it, and that there were actually quite a big number of good songs/performances in the show... Nice sexy ones included!

@SarahZi1998 Жыл бұрын

He was so harsh even on his own trainees. He was so harsh on Treasure’s Junkyu that for a while he couldn’t sing while looking up. He lost all confidence

@kitusan Жыл бұрын

Underrated Survival Show - The Wild Idol. One of the most creative survival shows I've ever seen. It's a really talented group called TAN

@taesley Жыл бұрын

Nathan I’m a bit disappointed u didn’t talk abt the mistreatment of the girls and vote manipulation of idol school. Fromis are S tear but idol school is an F

@treasure.1111 Жыл бұрын

Treasure box is the best survival show . It's very fun to watch. All participants were so talented 😍

@celinia5658 Жыл бұрын

That's sounds like such an interesting topic. Can't wait to watch the video.

@uuwa_09 Жыл бұрын

Dude! It’s been forever! Missed you dude. Can you please make a video about New Jeans or 4th gen ggs in general?! Would love to see your opinion

@Tingling10 Жыл бұрын

I’m not really a Korean Survival Show person. I found more joy watching the Chinese counterparts. Especially CHUANG2021, YWY2, and Idol Producer.

@rosylynmabika6564 9 ай бұрын

Yes me too 🥰

@rosylynmabika6564 8 ай бұрын

what does YWY2 means

@alexundmia01 Жыл бұрын

My ‚favourites‘ still are win and mix&match They were absolutely RUTHLESS, however the performances were absolutely amazing It‘s also one of the few i watched all the way through iKON still are one of my ults today so yeah

@itsjusttelly477 Жыл бұрын

to this day im still pissed about X1. i recently watched their debut showcase and its so disappointing what happened to those talented boys....smh

@y0ung5one Жыл бұрын

you didn't watch the unit? it was probably the most enjoyable survival show I've watched, probably because most of the participants already debuted they seemed more relaxed than other survival shows' participants. though there were dramas here and there but it was still fun.

@sur_un_nuage Жыл бұрын

the first survival show i remember is the kara project when baby kara competed for the chance to become the newest member of kara

@nishilee3029 Жыл бұрын

I think ILand was one of the expensive survival show in kpop debut

@Maru_LeeJaejun Жыл бұрын

My favorite survival show is "Wild Idol" which is literally a survival show and wild. 🔥 Please, check it out. The group formed by the show is already debuted and already had four Music videos. It's called TAN a very amazing group and very underrated. Members Lee Changsun & Lee Jaejun also a participants in Mixnine.

@marts01 Жыл бұрын

Mixnine was the best in terms of the show itself. YG, Seungri and CL personally visiting agencies, letting us see how those agencies and their owners were like, the activities the contestants had, the best original songs, the best theme song, the trainees (like you mentioned), the right amount of drama... I didn't need the debut since it was only going to be for a few months anyway.

@oiiebmms8461 Жыл бұрын

TWICE are officially legends now and "One in a Million" for sure ❤️

@kristopher3366 Жыл бұрын

Mixnine crawled and grovelled so that 4th gen could run and exist in all its amazingness!😂

@e.i.3077 Жыл бұрын

Bruh, if you think I-LAND was expensive, an edition of CHUANG (the legal Chinese version of P101) literally built a castle for their contestants 😅

@Lulexiaa Жыл бұрын

I always think about how amazing X1 would have been if they stayed together. They probably would have been so huge. I don’t even know the names of the groups they split off into.

@maheephoenix4398 3 ай бұрын

Yeah! But this is all producers fault. We lost the group due to their rigging. Those boys were eventually going to debut in their own groups in the end. But unlike now they would have been so much well known.

@Mistiny1791 Жыл бұрын

I will never forgive Mnet for what happened to X1. I always think about how much more successful those boys would’ve been and it makes me angry. I know a few of them are doing fine, but they really would’ve been huge. It’s sad.

@suyeesia7770 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@dffdw2 Жыл бұрын

idk, I'd probably put GP999 in A or B honestly because they aren't making the same impact as previous Produce groups, especially domestically. The constant fandom in-fighting and rookie competition kind of stunted their growth for now, plus their 1st week sales went down iirc. Hopefully everything improves for them though

@celestemt7 Жыл бұрын

omg welcome back king

@katijaybird Жыл бұрын

WIN and M&M were emotional roller coasters! ❤

@lasyadasika7571 Жыл бұрын

Love your videos 💚💚

@ayyuna7067 4 ай бұрын

ILand is really special to me. It was so emotional and heartwarming at the same time. It was really hard to see them struggle but our now debuted group Enhypen have made us proud ❤

@nikienhypen6334 Жыл бұрын

I love such Korean survivals show. The filled my weekends and I was always highly anticipating them. And they are so fun to watch

@kenlipson8686 Жыл бұрын

Ooooooo you're lucky....I was waiting for Sixteen and you nailed it!!!! I don't know about the otherr groups

@kenlipson8686 Жыл бұрын

Follow up question. How can I watch Sixteen? (With English subs)

@InternetsNathan Жыл бұрын

@@kenlipson8686 you didn’t hear it from me… but kshowonline123 is a good go to

@kenlipson8686 Жыл бұрын

@@InternetsNathan thanks man!!!!

@HPFan4Life81 Жыл бұрын

@@kenlipson8686 I'm currently uploading all 10 episodes and will be posting it to my channel Kshowonline censored the music for copyright reasons

@kenlipson8686 Жыл бұрын

@@HPFan4Life81 I subscribed!

@hanydevinta9059 Жыл бұрын

i really hoped you can talk about wild idol, under19, and the unit survival show hehehhe fighting

@milk1756 Жыл бұрын

WIN who is next is truly something else. You got to know every single one of the trainees and got to know their struggles. I love how you saw their raw emotion and could really feel the pressure. All the performances were truly amazing. I hope something similar to this is able to happen soon!

@christinarivera2885 Жыл бұрын

Ty for ur content Nathan, I love it 🫶🏽

@lasithajayawardana9559 Жыл бұрын

Hey Mate. It's been a while since we saw you last. Glad you're back in it. I have a question, does anyone in the k-pop industry take dance/song groups like Girl Crush, Laysha, Fly With Me and such girl dance groups seriously? The first two at least have one or two original songs, but all three dance to covers. Ironically, with very little covering them/their bodies (see what I did there?).

@mari-ou6yh Жыл бұрын

the unit was a great one in terms of performance and dynamics! too bad the groups were poorly managed bc the idols were actually very talented and already attempting their 2nd shots in the industry :(

@WiseSmellyLegs Жыл бұрын

LOUD was so good! I don’t like survival shows in general, but LOUD really got me interested and I enjoyed it a lot! When I say I don’t like survival shows, I mean those Produce Series-like. Those like Stray Kids, where it serves as a pre-debut promotion for the group and the creator already knows, who they want in that group anyway, that’s more less okay. But those like Produce etc are just fake/scripted drama with a group lasting only for some amount of time… So it’s not like with for example JYP forming his another group for his label for many years/for the future. These are basically just groups to earn as much money as possible in those two/something around two years. So obviously they will put in that group not purely those ones, who are the best and the most skilled. But they will give a preference to those, who are attractive to fans even though they might not be as good as other ones. And also after the show there are many contestants, who didn’t make it to the final line up, but they gained some popularity. So their label will want to use that momentum of fame to quickly debut a new group with them. And that has an impact on the training system, which got shorter than it used to be, because those labels debut the groups with trainees, who aren’t the best of the best, but just good enough to debut. And all of this causes the fact that there are a lot of groups on the scene, which are just trying their luck and those greedy businessmen are simply gambling with the life of teenagers, who just wanted to debut

@suyeesia7770 Жыл бұрын

Yes

@xinart3624 Жыл бұрын

Would recommend checking out Youth With You 2, it had some major popularity within and outside of China - a lot of it's trainees we're there before girl's planet 999.

@Heyitsann Жыл бұрын

I really hoped you would talk about The Unit, it’s a survival show that’s a commentary on survival shows

@enhamyboo 5 ай бұрын

one vid idea , maybe you should make a part 2 of this video but with the most recent survival shows! (a2k , ru next , dream academy, etc.)

@Remarkable269 Жыл бұрын

I love about Sixteen is that they had a opportunity to show their own thing

@Stopfollowingmeplz8 Жыл бұрын

I almost say Stray Kids was also formed through a survival show. Because JYP was willing to kick people out or debut Itzy instead of Stray Kids all together. It's brutal, but almost a more interesting concept that could get rid of rigging. Like "here's a set group," now they compete to stay in group.

@elangbam3115 Жыл бұрын

Bro I miss your contents! Keep giving us more K-pop content

@cobaltbluemaru Жыл бұрын

Gp999 isn't an S-tier imo

@skhabbythecrabby Жыл бұрын

Worth the wait

@InternetsNathan Жыл бұрын

my bad 😬

@skhabbythecrabby Жыл бұрын

@@InternetsNathan just asking, where did you watch idol school, I have been looking for where it is for years.

@Cookie-jl4st Жыл бұрын

@@skhabbythecrabby I know I’m not Nathan but I watched it a few years ago on 123kshow or dramacool.

@skhabbythecrabby Жыл бұрын

@@Cookie-jl4st thx

@cinnamaricat Жыл бұрын

i've never actually watched a survival show but i did keep up with girls planet 999 bc of bahiyyih i saw and still see a lot of untapped potential in her so i wanted her to debut and thankfully she did it was pretty easy to become attached to the other 8 members too bc i already knew i liked them from watching fancams and performances i really do hope tho that's not only be my first survival show group but also my last bc i don't want to cry every 2.5 years bc my faves are disbanding honestly watching wiz*ones gives me a glimpse into the future and my heart breaks watching them talk about how iz*one could've been so much bigger if they had a 7 year contract and then there was that one fan who started crying while watching kep1er perform la ve en rose so yeah i'd like to only go through that once

@WonderKingE Жыл бұрын

SIXTEEN should have been appreciated more seeing as how it came first before Produce 101 and benefited a lot from Somi also appearing on that show. Sixteen also created Twice which because Nation's Girl Group, and many of it's other members have also debuted. Such as Chae Sisters, Jiwoo, etc. The point of these shows should be to launch everyone who appears and Sixteen did that the best.

@k_n_c_y Жыл бұрын

Tbh I'd put Girls Planet 999 (Kep1er) on the A or even B tier. If the show aired/group debuted a mere 2 years ago, then it would probably be a different story. But the absolute tsunami of successful girl groups this year makes the compeition so stiff that I'd say Kep1er, although moderately popular, unfortunately got drowned out by monsters like IVE, Le Serrafim, Itsy, (G)IDLE, Aespa, and even veterans like Blackpink and Twice. It's unfortunate that groups that stem from a previous Mnet survival show (PD48/IZ*ONE) are now dimming Kep1er's light rather than passing the torch, but oh well. WakeOne, their management company, is also making really strange decisions that is hindering them from reaching their true potential. The solo stan/favoritism/mistreatment situation for Kep1er is also really polarizing within the fandom and is driving potential fans away and even causing people to unstan. Overall I'd say Kep1er would've been more of a smash hit if it weren't for unfortunate external circumstances. The group itself is fairly talented, but they were just dealt with bad cards imo.

@mariomirceski661 Жыл бұрын

Kep1er are not that popular in korea... their songs don't chart outside of bugs which is... BAD for an mnet group, also their album sales aren't growing they are stuck at 350k+ per album while other rookie girl groups like IVE or LE SSERAFIM double or triple their album sales from their previous comebacks, I definitely wouldn't give kep1er S tier especially after we fresh flopped... I'm sorry but that's how I see it, they started really strong with wa da da but after UP they can barely break 40M views

@Mandydmenace Жыл бұрын

You're right, so once he gave them S tier, I literally cringed 💀

@vesavius Жыл бұрын

And I am glad that they will. I love a good survival show. I started off with watching KPopStar 1(which is deeply underrated as a show... The stars it delivered have been some of my favourite kpop acts ever) and I love them still. It's all part of kpop culture and the people that are calling for them to end would destroy that.

@lyokochaeyeon Жыл бұрын

I wonder whens the next survival show, id like to actually watch one live since i got into MTG and GP 999 after the groups debuted

@martinhoDKB Жыл бұрын

It's closer then you think we have Boys Planet and My Teenage Boy early this year coming i think contesteants should be revealed soon and then I-LAND2 coming maybe in summer

@dewysage Жыл бұрын

Wow I forgot you existed (blame the education system)

@InternetsNathan Жыл бұрын

Nah blame me lol but I got a bunch of new content coming though!

@dewysage Жыл бұрын

@@InternetsNathan can't wait omg!! And thank you for finally remembering us but can't blame you tho like the amount of concerts you've been too recently 💀

@amazingmati1025 Жыл бұрын

If the concept of I-land was that the trainees would also have a hand in deciding their teammates, wouldn't it make more sense for them to vote for the people they want to stay instead of the people they want to get out?

@mindyourbusiness2403 Жыл бұрын

sixteen was such a traumatizing show. It was even so painful to watch I cant believe the girls are still close to each other

@Contrast97 Жыл бұрын

Starship had Boyfriend when Monsta X were being chosen. They debuted in 2011 too but starship didn’t know how to manage them

@CalvinistEeyore Жыл бұрын

I watched Welcome To Momoland and I liked it (controversies aside) I felt you really saw the strengths of the eventual members (I feel Ahin, Hyebin, and JooE stood out the most). It should also be noted that the original debut date of Momoland was pushed back due to the group's inability to fill a one thousand plus auditorium. While the group just (November 10th) celebrated its sixth year anniversary as a group. Sure Bboom Bboom was the thing that catapulted the group into the limelight but I also think the original survival show assembled said group as well. It's not a terribly memorable show with the exception of a few moments but as a Merry-Go-Round, I have a deep sentimental attachment to the series.

@dashpanther9943 Жыл бұрын

Great video, Nathan. Have you seen Nizi Project, JYP's survival show for NiziU? How would you rank it?

@jorgeesco8739 Жыл бұрын

Nizi Project is better than most if not all korean survival shows

@manofsesame3024 4 ай бұрын

The idea about survival shows is that is a very efficient way to attract popularity onto the contestant before the entertainment companies need to invest any buck onto debuting them.