One of those games where half the time when you press a button you aren't actually controlling your own character but pressing a button for the enemy to counter your move.

By reverse engineering the code and slowing down to frame by frame, it's been established the computer cheats in those old games like SF2. You can find videos about it. It's not just input reading : extra invincibility frames, extra range, moves altered... there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes. So if it feels like unfair BS, it's because it actually IS.

Omg this brings back such painful memories of playing 90s SF as a kid lol. Zangrief's command grab teleports you into his arms. It's the reason why I hate any game whose enemies have command grabs. The CPU in games of this era was something else. Rage for days.

I played Hyper on PS2 and I thought I was bad cos the CPU was nuts but if J. Wong himself struggled, then that makes me feel way better. 😭

On the SNES version if you got beat by the CPU and then plugged in a second controller and chose that CPU character that beat you, you could win with player one and advance. I did this and advanced all the way to Bison where I would just get destroyed since the exploit didn't work on the final character. So much rage.

They should literally make this CPU an entrant at EVO and see how it does.

Let me tell ya ONE thing... the AI on Hyper Street Fighter 2 IS the SAME as Super Turbo, which means that if you play the non-JPN version, you have the Super Turbo AI syndrome on ANY difficulty, while the JPN is a little bit harder overall, but still not as hard as international Super Turbo/Hyper. Edit: ONE big change to Super Turbo (aside of being able to use older versions than Super Turbo Special mode) is the fact that the Akuma conditions got modified, both for good and bad (like anything related to Super Combos ONLY plays in factor with Super Turbo versions of characters aside of Akuma himself and unlike Super Turbo, you cannot lose rounds at all AND also if you fail the match and decide to retry... you're out of luck on that run, you MUST restart as Dictator will fight you like normal)... with that said. I REALLY WANT Justin to try again, reach AND defeat Akuma, as it's already hard enough to achieve no rounds lost when you reach Dictator... also, if you want to pick a Super Turbo Old (Special mode) version of a character, pick the normal Super option while holding the Start button.

Seeing Justin do anti CPU cheese tactics brings me so much joy!

And guys FYI, about picking original 2x/turbo chars on HSF2, you could hold Start button when the cursor is on SuperX/SuperT then choose this mode. You will hear a different jingle. And for old chars in 2x/2t, you just need to hold start when cursor is on Super and choose this mode. The special jingle will be heard too.

Man, CPU Deejay was giving it to Justin

3 hit combos chunking 80% health in one go, gotta love this BS ass AI. It's so ridiculously broken. Anytime I play it again I get insanely frustrated and my girl hears me screaming obscenities at the TV.

I tested this and used Boxer...first match against Zangief stood still, spammed HP and managed to win I was like "ok, this game is just SF2 as i played it on Saturn" Then the second match my ass was handed...and again, and again, and again. Now i can see the game is just diabolically hard

Amazing content guys, nice edition too, love this channel.

Cammy input reading your moves and counter with Hooligan Combination was so sick!!

🤣🤣 Goes from the broken original Guile to the Championship Edition of Bison! Hilarious video! Absolutely loved it!

That Zangief matchup is like Hi Score Girl😂

man I really enjoy your videos , I have a dope time laughing at your struggles

5:21 “I did this as a kid and thought I was the best player in the world”. Many people don’t grow out of that mentality and play like complete trash, only choose S tier characters, still lose yet somehow keep thinking they’re good.

1:15 - Dee Jay's jump over your hadoken, definitely an input reader!

"Mad damage" is the physical equivalent of "emotional damage".

Great video. Glad to see im not the only one struggling with this game lol 😅

Love the video dude keep it up

best part is the score shows how many times jwong hits the continue button. LoLs

3:33 High Score Girl feels... man, I miss the anime

So much fun to watch Thank you

Loved the vid! My top pick would be to see human vs human high-level competitive play with SF2 WW.

YO! the Shokugeki no Soma wallpaper?!? 🙌🙌

Seeing you play this and going to guile just reminded me of "Hi-Score Girl" LOL

@4:31 Mans was negative after landing Falling heavy jump kick 😂😂 He recovered b4 Ryu hit the ground! 😂 I cry-laughed for 20 minutes straight

Yeah. I remember going to Circus Circus and playing the original Mortal Kombat when it first came out, and the computer would do super quick jump kick anti-airs and I would be like damn, why can’t my jumps be that quick. It was like a turbo jump whenever the computer would anti-air. 🤬

I feel relieved seeing this. If Justin is having troubles....then what can I expect for myself?

It's just the best old school fighting game ever to me. I've been playing this since having a break from street fighter spam, I mean 5. It's the one stop SF II shop and if you can beat AKUMA in this...then mad respect.

Perfect input reading makes Cammy scary!!

Love the sfii vids!

I play this one a lot today. It's a quarter killer...especially CPU Dee Jay and Gief.

lmao this happened to me when i got the anniversary edition on plus to try out, I was thinking I'm no pro but i can't be THAT bad not to be able to beat the first guy (also Deejay), I feel much better watching this now lol thanks!

thats one of the most serious beatings i have seen a computer dish out

everything the CPU does in Super Turbo or Hyper SF2 is, to quote Justin, "mad damage".

Every iteration of Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo AI I played is cheesematic. Every time I put a quarter in that machine, I knew I wasn't making it past the first opponent. Thankfully the Street Fighter Alpha Series, especially 2 and 3, calmed down a bit.

9:00 dad vs the son character portraits 🤣🤣🤣

I also didn't know how to pick old characters on this game until literally a decade after it came out, was so mad when I saw it was possble because I hated this version thinking it wasn't, or that Akuma wasn't selectable

Bro still waiting on the Hyper SF Final Challenger’s on Switch. Always love your vids

Wow Justin I’ve been hitting MK1 so hard I had nightmares 😢ugh switching to Street Fighter King of Fighters more 2D anime fighters but I love your content man

Good ol' SF2 input reader AI

The editor had me dying with the whole I live a life that is suffering lol.

7:36 that’s why I sub Justin 😂

You can pick the “old” version of characters by using ST mode then holding start on your character

You should play the fan made game of Ryu Vs Sagat. It's a flash game (I belive) but it's still playable. I think it would be super fun to see your reaction in round 3

9:23 This was a veteran move. By the CPU.

So I check out the Japanese version of HSF2 and the goddamn CPU is way less cheap!

That ace attorney ending tho haha I dig that

We’re playing this right now in Pao Pao Caffe on the MVSX for GOTW and no one can get past the 2nd guy 🤣

4:43 - Before Marth was grabbing ppl from Hammer Space. Clearly Zangief did it first.

To confuse the CPU its always best to throw out ur hoduken in a different pattern using the weak hoduken 1st then the fierce hoduken 2nd then back to weak for the 3rd n so on

6:58 nice combo

I remember this and super street fighter 2, The Computer will grab even on impossible situations . And Jumping against the computer is a death sentence.

If you ever get to fight Ryoko kano in the last levels from Fighters history dynamite she can grab you from miles away

That instant transmission 0:03

1994, and 15 year old me was playing this at 7-11 when some kid a few years younger challenged me with Bison doing that bullsh!t cheap-ass flaming dive back and forth. He learned that day that Ryu can wake-up Shoryuken out of it. The look on his face was priceless…he couldn’t understand how he lost. 😂

Alpha 3 on hardest can be pretty cheap only certain characters tho it's actually kind of incredible ai sometimes - they will suddenly do a cheap tactic you have never seen before, then repeat it several times would love to know how it was tuned over time

There was an American arcade release of Hyper. Not sure if they still have it, but Round 1 PHM did at one point.

Say what? It's just World/US ST A.I. Which is very hard yes, but there's nothing different about Hyper. That was the thing I was pissed about when it came out. It just plays exactly like ST in 1P mode. Instead of utilising varied A.I.s for each character variation. And using BGs from SFII's past - blue colored carpet for C.E./Turbo Dhalsim, sunset colored sky for WW Ryu stage etc would have been super sweet. A redone frontend with player select and vs screen wouldn't have gone amiss either. Unfortunately the game was made in Capcom's era of 'cobbling shit together'.

Man, it's one thing for the enemy to teleport to you, but that Zangief literally pulled you into a singularity there for that nasty grab. Geez...

The damage from zangief drop kicking anyone or breaking their necks makes more sense, than ibuki being able to throw him. 😂

Essentially the AI is programmed to read your input and always counter according to a script. The difficulty adjuster just affects how often it will fail at this. This means at the highest difficulty nine times out of ten it doesn't matter what you do, the AI will walk through your attack and hit you because that's the only situation that can happen in the script.

"if you guys want to see me struggle and get upset, like and subscribe" soon we'll be having Jwong doing taxes

7:17 Muhammad Ali vs Antonio Inoki right there.

Thank god I wasn’t the only one struggling with this. I can barely make it past one character in this game 😅

Hey Justin out of all of the different versions of street fighter 2 which one is your favorite?

Like Mortal Kombat Street Fighter has combos that will destroy your opponents in a single chain of moves

Yo Justin have u played any umvc3 with the all the new characters it would be awesome to watch u play some new new characters and here your thoughts on them brotha

I' collect games and Ive tried Super Turbo not long ago from that Ps2 Capcom Collection and man, the 1st guy was already a nightmare. I felt ba bc I never had that kind of trouble playing the series.

4:42 melee Marth moment

Zero 2 alpha arcade was hell too

The piledriver just suck you in thin air that happens all the time for me

it's actually neutral jump hK in the corner for the zangief matchup.

It is comforting to see that I am the only one that struggles with CPU Zangief!

Ty

Spamming Psycho Crusher VS Zangief, yeah I did that too...

I remember when I used to play this in the 90’s I could have beaten this game with one try, I attempt to play this the other day and couldn’t win a match lol, I really forgot how hard this game was

I played this game in the arcades. It took my quarters...

Have you ever fought arcade mode Magaki in KOF XI? That was hard for me... But Hyper is crazy.

the reason was to take your money away You just got to know the strategy for each character I remember when we first time the someone beat all the characters and the bosses show up, there was like 6 or 7 kid everyone get his asskick by balrog LOL, nobody knew about the sweping

This DBZ SFX is priceless !🙉

I remember not being good enough to advance past the 2nd or 3rd fighter

Bro I cried laughing at that m.bison story 😭

As someone who's taking its first baby steps into SFII and unknowingly starting out with HyperSFII, hearing Jwong say even he finds the CPU is hard puts my mind at rest.

I remember beating this game using slow fireball dragon combo....... With Zangief just jump up and sweep into slow fireball.

“See Mom!” I told you the computer is cheating!!! 😂😂😂 I remember as a kid screaming and yelling at the bowling alleys, at arcades, at Circus Circus, etc., and my Mom used to tell me there’s no way the computer could cheat. 🤣

the final version of sf4 has this too. give that a shot.

One game I recall NOT cheating was Street Fighter Alpha: Warrior’s Dream. I could beat that game with Birdie, Adon, and Ken on practically ever arcade machine I played it on with no more than two dollars.

To beat Gief i always spam heavy tatsu. Believe me it works I learn to cheap him out in hyper fighting which still works in this version. If you do on his wake up he will get hit with most of the time on the last hit of the tatsu

Lmfao at that zangief grab

Dee Jay getting ready for sf6.

2:25 *I live a life of suffering...*

I played sf2 turbo once on street fighter 30th anniversary and I almost obliterated my fighstick, can’t imagine what this shit was like.

wow all this time I thought it was just me but damn even Justin Wong struggles with this game.

So many good moments lol

3:31 "India!" 3:33 Zangief 😂

I can only win using dhalsim. I noticed the AI reads when i use the Dpad. So i normally dont use the Dpad and have dhalsim just using HP or HK. If i start using yoga fire, the AI will make me whif and i get countered