'reaction' video's should be banned.

Wow! This is worthless!!

Yeah , for once the general wasn't the one asking for bombing people

Iirc in another video, there's a comment from an Indonesian about the military always respect experts' opinion, and work very close with them

And she recommended it knowing she and her family will die as well. She truely thought of the greater good.

@@margraveofgadsden8997 Yeah, it'd be difficult, but then again, they're facing a human-extinction threat, and I'm pretty sure many countries would agree that a bomb would be needed to "save the world"

@@margraveofgadsden8997 Why not? They may not have nuclear weapons but they can try to arrange a quarantine and bombard the city for like weeks and months until there's only rubble. I think they have enough explosives for that (you don't need super-modern rockets for that - everything from the soviet era will work just fine) The other thing is that I'm not sure it's even possible to make an effective quarantine around Jakarta or any other major city with any amount of resources. And if it's not 100% isolated area then there's no point in this destruction at all I guess, as the risks of this thing not doing anything are high

Also factory send contaminated product to everywhere. 14 is a cute number compare to shitload of contaminated grain XD . We only had covid so double plus good for us XD

She’s a real life scientist who studies cordyceps too

@@shadowsonicsilver6 no she isn't. Christine Hakim is a well known actress in Indonesia. she has no scientific background.

@@shadowsonicsilver6 No she’s not. She’s an actress. Where do you get your information?

@@Sarcasmses According to Wikipedia, the person playing the character is an actual doctor, and Wikipedia is very strict about misinformation

She is a top class actress in Indonesia.. Did numerous works..

And now Indonesian no. 1 bank made a parody of this scene for promotion purpose 😂

In that situation the hammer down protocol might be the only way

@@khairiaris It really shows how good an actress she really is! 👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Greetings from Killyglen.

what's even funny is, most Indonesian actors and actresses don't act this good@@khairiaris

That man was a senior general, meaning he had decades of experience and was hardened to the realities, and even he was appalled by what had to be done

Yeah once she found out 14 infected had escaped...

Yes it’s a show bubba. So subjective what you get out of it 😂

@@lIlIlIlIlIlIIIIIIIIthey missed the whole seen where they show her the body

I still think it was a stupid change to make. It's far less believable that something transmitted through a bite would spread quickly through any population. They should have stuck with the spores. Real spores have been found to have traveled via air over 1200 miles.

Where would they Go?

Thing is, just because she recommends the "bomb" option doesn't mean the government will agree to it. There's going to be a lot of conversations to be had, and by then, it's too late.

Makes sense

She's the expert on this subject. There are 14 missing people, possibly more out there spreading the infection. Plus the fungus is already in the flour, so who knows how many have consumed it. She could have, someone in her family could have, it's not worth it to take the risk. I've seen theories that she might have already been infected, due to the fungus stretching toward her in the autopsy scene, and her shaking while holding the cup could be muscle spasms. Of course it could also just be nerves making her shake, as she gains more information and realizes just how screwed everyone is. Anyway, she probably knows the chances of her or a family member being infected are quite high, so better for her to just spend time with her loved ones while she can.

@@PrincessLicorice she ate nasi goreng before, most nasi goreng serve with crackers that made from flour

@@Katybeamn right, that's my whole point

Ellie is the cure..

@@plusultra4961 cure or vaccine?

​@@plusultra4961there is no cure

You obviously never watched the walking dead

She's one of senior Indonesian actress. Christine Hakim. You can think she's Indonesian equivalent of Dame Helen Mirren or Dame Judi Dench

Totally agree! You felt every emotion with her.

Almost as if it was written in the script!

At 1:18 I think she realises that the world is going to end. Perfectly reflected in her body language

I think that she is acting.

well said, and well acted by her!

It's realistic. Americans went through many wars, so it comes easy for them to just bomb everything. Here the country is Indonesia, they have few military confrontations in the last 5 decades, all of them with local groups. So, the decision of bombing isn't as easy and it's not taken lightly. Also, when she said "bomb" she didn't mean "nuke". Indonesia doesn't have nuclear bombs.

"local groups"@@nagybahnan

@@nagybahnan america shows more restraint relative to their military strength than any nation in history. (i am not american)

I don't even think the official is way over his head. He's genuinely clueless on what to do.

@@scatterthewinds3126 As a Canadian you’re not wrong. The U.S. has done some f*cked up things but compared to what they’re capable of doing and what other nations in the past have done when in their position, they really are the best The U.S. could have an empire stretching across the globe if they wanted to. If they had similar thought processes to Russia for instance my nation would have been annexed over a century ago

Keep in mind that she is just a scientist. Maybe she didn't have any idea about the logistic necessary to do what she suggested - it doesn't make the sugestion less valid, though.

@@lucasmoreirasantos8377 exactly because she's a scientist that I'm surprised. We don't exactly have a strong expert/rationality culture, here. So I'd expect for her suggestion to be passed up where it's endlessly debated by everyone that nothing happens until it's too late.

It's terrifying that as of 2023, world leaders have become so weak and incapable of taking any action at all, that only dictators would actually respond to a situation like this.

@@adammclaughlin845 No? Dictators drags their feet too. It is literally because China dragged its feet about Covid (even supressing the doctor that broke the news that they had to apologize for later) that it got out of hand. And then they dragged their feet with stopping their zero covid again. This is also the reason why their unemployment, construction, and population dominoes started falling. It's not just China either. Putin is basically so incompetent he plunged his country into an even worse long-term crisis - even if he won, their economy and demographics is still in a massive problem. He wasn't decisive with Progozhin either - it takes until a month of questioning about his competency before he took any actions. This is true for many other dictators. The only dictator that I would argue is halfway decent would be Singapore and they're more of the exception that proves the norm. Especially considering on the other hand it has been European Union driving world politics in recent years, with their various regulations that can bend the knees of even Apple.

@@adammclaughlin845 LOL! Like North-Korea in "World War Z"? You are right, though ... it is terrifying!

It's way more realistic most Generals and soldiers love there owns country's population its why most fight. When Scientists deal with hard cold facts daily.

@@saxontaylor4787 Most people “fight” because they have no other option due to financial reasons, have no where to go, or are being drafted against their will. They aren’t on screen like in your typical blockbuster film trying to boast power or display arrogance. That’s why this scene nails it. I noticed this show tries to mislead you into assuming something cliche is about to happen, but always delivers something grounded and real. They never focus on spectacle. Like Mehmet said, it seemed like the military was arresting the scientist until it was revealed that they are in a dire situation and actually need help from an expert. The way the general and scientist had mutual respect for each other was a nice touch, but the general was figuratively at his knees as the scientist explained things. Ultimately he quickly came to terms and knew what had to be done. The acting and interactions here were superb.

Agreed, brilliant reversal of who instills fear into who

​@@greatcesariUnlike USA, in most countries, choosing military career in out of pride and idealism, not for the money. I think USA has the best pay for military.

​@@greatcesaridude, this scene is set in indonesia, you clearly have no idea how overproud indonesia toward their country is, we don't have draft here but everytime the DoD open for new cadet registration, there will be so many youngster happilly register for military that DoD often put stupid qualification just to eliminate as many as possible. The world is not just USA or european, kiddo ☕️

If you like this you should read the actual book World War Z. It doesn't really resemble the movie at all but it is horrifying. From the people who exploit it to the soldiers to the survivors it is very well done. I wish the movie had been like the book.

​@@whitelabrat this series is not based on WWZ.

@@whitelabratThe only problem is a WWZ type infection would not have given any organised, mechanised modern military the type of problems it did in the book, which really made it difficult to enjoy if you know anything about weaponry, tactics or… basic physics.

@@whitelabrat isn't this series based on a game, like Resident Evil was?

@@tifadreamers yes, the last of us came before this

Wu Han😂

thankfully, it's a virus and not fungus

Ratna. But lmao 😂😂

lmao

@@nazliuz United States 👍

Plan Orange....

Redeker plan always makes me queasy to think about

@@kainepeterson6638As it should. Even if we take it at face value, it is an awful, horrible plan, and if we apply even the slightest bit of critical thinking, it becomes obvious that it is so much worse than that.

Love the WWZ Reference

I appreciate the writer for being real and not some bs mainstream movie plotline praying

Not only that, the flour is contaminated with spores and has presumably already been shipped across the city and beyond. Anyone who eats food made from that flour will be infected.

Not to mention that the infection was in a grain factory. Imagine all those infected grain spreading all across the country

​@@davidg5423And other countries as well. Indonesia is one of the most important flour producers in the world. They ship tons of flour everyday to East Asia, the US, Africa, South America... it's haunting

"The perfect substrate" referring to the grain, also. I expect she's quite aware that the grain was a source of infection and/or spread.

Merica!

We just recovered from worst economic crisis at that time. So yeah...... any zombie plague during post Reformasi era would screw us

Yeah, he was putting hope for the scientist. Like the shock when she said bomb. Damn great acting.

@@MrJacobkoh bombing the city did not seem on his mind. the horror.

Old school actors the good ones ❤

He's acting coach too, sadly he passed away, he was in Sundance promoted his new American indie film last year.

The expression of shock on the generals face...

she's a living legend actress from Indonesia, her name is Christine hakim high level actress

im so sorry about your husband and i wish you peace and comfort

My condolences about losing your husband. I enjoyed reading your comment and I always like seeing comments from individuals from my grandparents generation, my grandmother is 80 this year and a wonderful lady I wish she could operate a PC so she could see cool shows like this but I just set up the TV for her so it works out.

Bless you Ms. Hilton. Thank you for sharing.

My husband was Army. His ashes sit in front of his flag given to me by Veterans Association. My brother who died almost a year ago was a Marine who fought in Vietnam. He assured me that war is hell. My husband passed almost 16 years ago. Cancer. If they were both here now, they would be appalled at the condition of our nation and the world. Everyone and everything coming apart at the seams. RIP

So sorry for your loss. I lost so many loved ones to that horrible disease - I've nothing but compassion for those whose lives have been touched by it.

That man was a senior general, meaning he had decades of experience and was hardened to the realities, and even he was appalled by what had to be done

Bcause of the embargoo by the us and eu lmao

@@nomeka6518 we have bootleg shits back then A4 skyhawk for 2003 is a total joke

Sindiran gak sih, atau memang sengaja ngepasin keadaan kita di kala itu, jadi cocok.

You would probably use chemical weapons which can be artillery delivered also. In fact that is probably the easiest way to do it if you wanted to be systematic. No need to destroy the structures. You just need the people and animals to be dead. Which is why this kind of things is completely horrifying.

Says a lot about me that when you said "our" I assumed you meant the US 🤦‍♂

thats a fugged up terrifying thought & unused in any story, afaik! write a book^^

Or the FEDRA coup.

Love this kinda stuff. Fear the Walking Dead was cool as well

Yes, especially central java dialect like the lady's

actually, not really. we're loud as hell lol. it's just how the show decided to portray these characters. maybe to show how hopeless the situation is.

Really took out the severity of getting bombed XD I feel so nice that , i can take a couple of carpet bombing without a fuss XD

I'd never heard Indonesian before this! It sounds so pretty to me

@@lukesguywalker Malay Language is 85 percent similar to Indonesia Language.. But less stocatic..

That's why listening to dubbed versions just doesn't work. You lose so much of the actors' voice skills, iterations, nuances, pauses, body language etc. Even if you don't speak the language, you pick up so much emotional information from the way they talk.

Honestly, I'm finding the early outbreak stuff much more compelling than the twenty years later stuff, which feels like really good Walking Dead.

The intro scenes have been the highlights of both episodes so far and its not close.

I want a whole episode on the start of the outbreak. Not just 5 minutes

From such thing? yeah, about time to use the Tsar bomba!

I watched this scene while i'm on oil site, i tried to imagine if there is something happen like the movie, perhabs where i am now is the safest place

You can't open a series twice.

😂

Lmaoo

Lmao

Yes, an anthology series where each episode focuses on a different perspective from somewhere else in the world not just the US. Most do not survive but a few we can see escaping etc. So much potential here.

She's correct about it, sadly.

@@katerynaberidukhova2923 What nonsense, are mushrooms invulnerable? There are antifungal drugs, our immunity destroys millions of mold spores every day and that

I mean the infection is a spore that grows all over your brain, there is no cure at that point.

@@patrickhaiop7786 Yes, probably ... but there must be prevention

How long it took to get some vaccine for COVID?

how was the language? german ALWAYS gets butchered in us-shows.... how about indonesian?

no wonder, she's been an actress over 40 years !!

The decision to have everyone be very competent and still loose did a lot to sell how little hope there was

People are not rational and often don't listen at all. So you would think that but spend some time reading NTSB reports and you will find almost everything that goes wrong from ships sinking to rail cars spilling toxic ooze to Chernobyl/Fukushima are preventable if you listen to experts. For instance if GE's experts has been listened to Fukushima would have been shut down ages ago. Even just if their interim recommendations of an additional off site power source farther up the hill and new control systems for the reactors had been heeded it never would have happened.

So why did so many resist the CoVid experts?

Fun fact: in real life we actually do have antifungal agents. A form of meningitis is given by a fungal infection and it’s treatable with high dose antifungal medication.