ICC T20 World Cup 2024: India’s redemption tour, Underrated Axar & South Africa’s first final

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In this episode of the show, Binksy and Stu look back at the two semi finals at the Men's T20 World Cup with one eye on the final, which will see India take on South Africa.
We start the show by discussing India's win against England, which was set up by an excellent partnership from Rohit Sharma and Suryakumar Yadav, then finished off by India's brilliant bowlers. We talk about setting the tone at the top, underrated Axar Patel, more Jasprit Bumrah magic and who from England might be saying farewell.
Next we move to South Africa's dominant win against Afghanistan, which takes them to their first-ever final. Marco Jansen gets a shout out, as well as Afghanistan's tournament as a whole, before the conversation focuses on whether the pitch was up to standard for such a crucial game and what the Proteas can take from such a one-sided fixture.
To finish, we look ahead to the final in Bridgetown. Will Rahul Dravid go out on a high thanks to a Virat Kohli special? Or will South Africa's well-balanced bowling lineup and powerful middle order see them lift the trophy for the very first time?
We'll find out the answers to those questions on Sunday morning New Zealand time, and we'll be back in your feed after that to celebrate the champions and take a wider look at the tournament and the past month of cricket. Until then please take the time to give us a like, follow, share or subscribe on all our channels (@toporderpod on Twitter & Facebook, and @thetoporderpodcast on Instagram & KZfaq) and a (5-Star!) review at your favourite podcast provider, or tell a friend to download. It really helps others find the show and is the best thing you can do to support us. You can also find all our written content, including our Hall of Fame series, at our website.
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0:00 Intro - Two dominant semi final wins
1:20 India v England - Rohit Sharma sets the tone again
14:50 South Africa v Afghanistan - Marco Jansen delivers
24:25 Final Preview - Redemption for India or is it finally South Africa's time?

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@shashankreddy9571 24 күн бұрын

Just because India’s SF is fixed on a ground doesn’t mean they have byfar the best schedule. They are one of the teams that travelled from new York to Florida to three different venues in West indies ( which does include international travels) and also considering the day games throughout is not easy under the sun and heat, also they have to get used to different conditions in different pitches. I would say England had the best schedule in this WC where all their matches were in WI. That should give them advantage to get used to these conditions more:

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

When we look back at this tournament I think most fans will agree it was a shame some of these pitches were so bowler friendly. The Super 8 phase has produced the best cricket I think - and I expect we’ll get a great game in Bridgetown and the focus can be on the players.

@Dopamine_Reservoir 24 күн бұрын

It would be "India vs Rest of the world" Instead of "India vs South Africa" As NZ and SA are the next favourite team of the whole world after their own team.

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

Us New Zealanders used to be everyone’s second favourite team - have we lost that tag now?

@sidhanttiwari942 24 күн бұрын

@@thetoporderpodcast you did, after you won WTC(now SF's the one without a trophy, so it's natural)

@roobanloganathan6498 25 күн бұрын

Why everyone connected to cricket from England, Pakistan, Australia all are saying that BCCI set the SF venue for India which helped them when what I heard was that it was the Guyana government who wanted India to play their SF there as there’s a large indian diaspora in the country, the largest in the Caribbean? Why not one of these people who spewing hatred towards BCCi n Indian team get the true facts and say it if it was true the Guyana government who asked for it? So much hatred shown towards the indian team just because they are doing well .

@priyanshuhazra8644 25 күн бұрын

The colonialist mentality of the west have not gone away, they believe that they are the only countries who deserve to control cricket and can't stand an ASIAN COUNTRY ruling the sport, It's like England in football, everyone comes to watch them play, both in the PL and otherwise, but no one want's them to win

@Devastating-queen-destroyrKing 24 күн бұрын

I read about it too mate idk people just hates strong team getting wins

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

Do you think this is how we feel? It feels like a shame for the Indian players that these conversations are happening - they’re so well rounded to win in any conditions, I think most fans just want a fair set of circumstances so we can all focus on the cricket on the field.

@roobanloganathan6498 24 күн бұрын

@@thetoporderpodcast No, i am not saying you guys are like these people. For example, former Pakistan captain, Inzaman Ul Haq has accused Indian bowlers of ball tampering in their last 2 matches and he said this on Pakistan television. These type of people have so much hatred towards India till they will say anything without any proof. I am sure you must have read Michael Vaughan’s tweets and his dissatisfaction with ICC for so called favouring India. George Dorbell from the Cricketeer channel yest confirmed what i said about the request by Guyana govt for India to play their semi final there yet BCCI is accused of doing it. When’s there’s too much hatred shown from many quarters, you can’t win as you can’t be countering all of them all the time.

@mrgyani 22 күн бұрын

Indians should go easy on the 'why you hate us' comments everywhere.

@josh-xu1kr 24 күн бұрын

India got the toughest schedule, England got the easiest.India got initial matches in new york pitch which was horrible and could have gotten India out of the tournament and also injured our cricketers.wheareas England got good surfaces and venues.So don't show hypocrisy and accept the fact that India played better.Also head to head India is 5-2 against England in the last 7 t20 matches.

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

India certainly outplayed England on the day - would be surprising to hear anyone suggesting otherwise.

@relaxingvibes.2934 24 күн бұрын

At this point BCCI should raise the issue of WTC final with ICC, enough of this crap we want that out of England that venue is far from neutral.

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

If you don’t ask, you’ll never know . . .

@GotheBlackCaps-wf9ku 25 күн бұрын

Had the same thought about Axar - feels like he's been such an important part of their team, even though the stats aren't overwhelming.

@thetoporderpodcast 25 күн бұрын

Yeah it feels like he’s been very impactful.

@12mightylion 24 күн бұрын

He’s gone under the radar living under jadejas shadow as they are similarish players. Axar being in form while jadeja is out of form is showing how important Axar is for india

@moviefan700 23 күн бұрын

Jesus, you almost predicted the final with India's 3 quick outs and Klaasan's batting. Just couldn't predict that Sky catch

@thetoporderpodcast 23 күн бұрын

That SKY catch was unreal! Excited to talk about that one tonight🎙️

@roobanloganathan6498 25 күн бұрын

Two teams with chokers tag got the opportunity to finally shed the tag . If you take players to players, SA has the advantage as they have 6 batters full of power to smash any bowling group on their day. SA bowlers too are coming to form at the right moment and can go through the Indian batters especially when 3 of them are still struggling to get runs. ( Kohli, Pant, Dube) Indian bowlers are on top form too and can change the results of the match by their bowling but the batters must fire and can’t depend only on Rohit n SKY. The champion will be the team whose players are on form on the day as previous forms are of no use to use as we saw in the ODI final. Although many are saying India are the favourites, i personally am not ready to believe they can win until the final ball has been bowled. I certainly can’t go through another devastating moment and heart shattering to pieces as still not recovered from last final defeat.

@thetoporderpodcast 25 күн бұрын

We’ve really enjoyed talking about the games with you during the tournament so hopefully for your sake you get the result you are hoping for. 👍🏏🏆

@roobanloganathan6498 25 күн бұрын

@@thetoporderpodcast Same here as i never miss any of your shows. Hv a great weekend 🙏🙏

@shashwatmishraalumni4918 25 күн бұрын

@@roobanloganathan6498chokers tag won't be shed they both hv lost enough

@roobanloganathan6498 25 күн бұрын

@@shashwatmishraalumni4918 😭😭😭

@vanrensburgarchitecturebim1641 24 күн бұрын

Proteas lost theirs, semi was our kryptonite ☄️🪨

@dragoneel4670 25 күн бұрын

In the final rohit is the key he has always been the key whether it was on 19 November or 29 june if south africa gets him early then they will have a chance and if rohit stayed for 10 over then match is over

@thetoporderpodcast 25 күн бұрын

He’s such an important figure in the final, that’s for sure.

@roobanloganathan6498 25 күн бұрын

Should England call Jonathan Trout to go back and be the England coach till the 2028 T20 tournament? He will be the best coach for them as he has had enough experience at the highest level and delivered fantastic results with limited resources. He can rebuild the next England white ball team .

@thetoporderpodcast 25 күн бұрын

He’s certainly done himself no harm if that’s his ambition - seems to be very well organised and clearly knows when to slow the game down 😂 In all seriousness though I wonder if Trott might like to stick with Afghanistan for longer - good nucleus of players that are gaining in confidence.

@santoshkumar-iu2sq 24 күн бұрын

India also planned the rain with BCCI money power.😂

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

😂

@ritzemaritzema-xo4dz 24 күн бұрын

unlike ireland rugby at least SA now reached a final...many tears and narrow losses over the years though...and ummm rain

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

Fans of both teams have had a few heartbreaking moments lately - Sunday will be a huge day!

@beautifulbridgetmb 24 күн бұрын

Great to see two unbeaten teams in the final, with some fun storylines. Will India turn their excellent decade into a title? Or will South Africa finally get their first one?

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

I can’t speak for everyone on the podcast but I( Binksy) hope India win it, they are such a box office and exciting team to watch.

@roobanloganathan6498 25 күн бұрын

India never won a SF n Final when Richard Kettlebrough was the umpire and now he will be one of the umpires for this final. Congratulations to SA for winning the match tomorrow. Another heartbreaking loss?😭😭

@drdr3919 25 күн бұрын

Absolutely not ...check the stats ..when India win any world cup titles ..part of the team a Malayali ( this time Samson ) on the bench or playing eleven ..that is sufficient to win the final ...Previous finals and semis of world cup matches ...No one was part of team after sreesanth ...So this year it's belongs to India

@roobanloganathan6498 25 күн бұрын

@@drdr3919 I certainly hope it happens as you say.

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

Stay positive and soak up all the joy of being in a final!

@jayperie2337 24 күн бұрын

The Proteas don't stand a chance, even if Rohit is the only Indian on the field.

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

One v 11 would make for entertaining viewing 😀

@CrookedKnight-xl4nn 24 күн бұрын

There’s no pleasing the non-Indian audiences 😂. I have no idea where this confidence to make intellectually innocent assertions comes from. I can only guess this is the result of parents and teachers not really telling their kids when they are being stupid when growing up 😜. India had the toughest schedule along with South Africa and both teams played in most variable conditions. If India had played the other semifinal and won, everyone would have got on the bandwagon to blame India for doctoring the pitch to suit them, not the ICC, not the West Indian organizers… none of that. What I get here is glowing praise for SA for exploiting the conditions.

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

Did you listen to the full episode? Felt like we also give India glowing praise for their unbeaten campaign, and also said the SA v Afghanistan pitch was terrible.

@CrookedKnight-xl4nn 24 күн бұрын

@@thetoporderpodcast you did blame India for the morning game. You seem to forget a schedule that suits Indian TV audiences is not the same as a schedule that suits Indian cricket team. Besides, Antigua wanted to host the India game not that India requested it.

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

We’ll have to agree to disagree on this. When even Sanjay Manjrekar is saying India had a clear scheduling advantage then it seems pretty clear cut. From a pure cricketing perspective though India have been amazing and deserve to win the tournament in my view, doesn’t mean the ICC can’t learn for future tournaments and the blame on scheduling inequalities lies with them, not India which we thought was pretty clear. It’s obviously touched a nerve though with Indian fans. Just hope the players aren’t affected by it.

@CrookedKnight-xl4nn 24 күн бұрын

@@thetoporderpodcast I guess. George Dobbel too disagrees with you. Psst.. Sanjay Manjrekar is not one of those bright chaps who keeps themselves well informed.

@CrookedKnight-xl4nn 24 күн бұрын

So another podcast where a bunch of entitled Kevins blame India for all the conditions and scheduling. 😮

@thetoporderpodcast 24 күн бұрын

Is Kevin the male equivalent of Karen?

@CrookedKnight-xl4nn 24 күн бұрын

@@thetoporderpodcast If it wasn’t before it is now :)