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@ABHIJITHGUDURU
@ABHIJITHGUDURU 3 күн бұрын
May be you guys should stop picking India from here on so they win all
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 2 күн бұрын
😀Will be hard to do that again after such an excellent all-round performance from them this time.
@ABHIJITHGUDURU
@ABHIJITHGUDURU 3 күн бұрын
Ppl will cry for anything and everything.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 2 күн бұрын
Certainly appears to be a few sensitive topics out there!
@knc2111
@knc2111 3 күн бұрын
We cricket lovers remember Mitch Marsh putting keeping the trophy at his feet trying to make a statement in 2023.Now they could not even reach the semis. Remember the 7 great sins. Pride is one.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 3 күн бұрын
🏆😀
@lakshminarayanpanigrahy3076
@lakshminarayanpanigrahy3076 3 күн бұрын
Keep blabbering, no issues. India won the cup. There were umpires and the 3rd umpire. Go and bark infront of the ICC
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 3 күн бұрын
India won the cup very well - great to watch 👍
@lakshminarayanpanigrahy3076
@lakshminarayanpanigrahy3076 3 күн бұрын
Good to see that the monopoly of England, Australia is over
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 3 күн бұрын
Don’t forget New Zealand 😀
@lakshminarayanpanigrahy3076
@lakshminarayanpanigrahy3076 3 күн бұрын
You all guys are all talking crap
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for your feedback 👍
@srirampawar2739
@srirampawar2739 3 күн бұрын
You should read all law about cricket (9.3 law)then decide about laws of cricket Do you think 3 umpire is sleeping or blind Think about how to get more subscribers don't talk rubbish about fair play and respect and trust empires
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 3 күн бұрын
Did you listen to what we said? We agree that people need to move on, and said so on the episode. Clearly it is a topic that has touched a nerve for a lot of people, though!
@SriMahaVishnu_Lakshmi
@SriMahaVishnu_Lakshmi 4 күн бұрын
Unless you have some proof that boundary has been intentionally moved for India you can't cry on that, It might have been at the same place even when Indian team was batting....
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 3 күн бұрын
Certainly not crying - Baldy was saying that people who are complaining about it need to move on - such an amazing piece of work by SKY it’s a shame this has even become a topic everyone feels so passionate about.
@SriMahaVishnu_Lakshmi
@SriMahaVishnu_Lakshmi 3 күн бұрын
@@thetoporderpodcast my comment is for those who are crying
@SriMahaVishnu_Lakshmi
@SriMahaVishnu_Lakshmi 4 күн бұрын
Please Never Predict India as winner in future also 😂😂
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 3 күн бұрын
Haha - although it’ll be hard not to pick them next time around after this impressive tournament.
@srim2213
@srim2213 4 күн бұрын
Suddenly so many podcast channels talking about India😅,
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 3 күн бұрын
😀Absolutely - although with the IPL followed by the WC it has been 3 months of us talking about how good India are, which some listeners have enjoyed and some haven’t!
@niveditashetty2219
@niveditashetty2219 4 күн бұрын
Sore losers and short of money,they all know dat this guys can earn money by only talking about India..feel sad for them…these r all the original bullies !
@pdas1667
@pdas1667 4 күн бұрын
It would have been so much more objective if the four panelists had just admitted they preferred Anglo-saxons to win world cups, not colored people.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 4 күн бұрын
First time listener? We’ve spent the past month praising India and the amazing team they have - check out our previous episode. It’s actually okay to have different opinions sometimes - makes life more interesting!
@stval
@stval 4 күн бұрын
I think based on empirical data, lower scoring pitches tend to converge teams. Look the NY games. Most of them were close. You can argue about the entertainment and thats a personal preference thing but I dont generally have a problem unless its dangerous or something extreme like low bounce. I see some validity to the grumblings about the organisation of the tournament but its lacking some information input which skews perspective. The seedings have been there for almost every ICC tournament going back as far as the 90s. Maybe skipped a few in the middle due to changing formats. But it is 100% to make sure where fans have to travel in advance. Caribbean is not a place where thousands of people can simply travel from one place to another on 1 or 2 day notice. Limited flights being the biggest factor. Both semi finals had 250 minutes of extra time. Since semi final 1 was at night, the carry over time was the next day. It couldnt be the next day for SF2 because the final was on Saturday as the broadcaster wanted the reserve day to be a Sunday and not Monday. It was a logistical compromise. As for the pacing of the tournament, people really start tuning out if and when their team loses. Previous editions, especially if india gets knocked out, had poor viewership even towards the pointy end. You need games everyday to keep the interest.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 4 күн бұрын
Yes great points and totally understand the need for ICC to consider the logistics for travelling fans in the tournament organisation. It’ll always seem strange to me that Afghanistan for example finished 2nd in their group but went through to the Super 8 pool as C1 (as just one example of this), but in the end the seedings probably made no difference to the outcome of the tournament. Perhaps the unique nature of hosting in the Caribbean presented challenges that simply won’t be as obvious in future tournaments, but we still found it interesting to talk through the things we liked and didn’t like.
@reki4279
@reki4279 4 күн бұрын
SA have never choked since the 99 WC semi final. Their problem has almost always been their weak lower order. They will fix it and Markram will win a WC for SA before he is done.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 4 күн бұрын
Yes I think that lower order has been an under discussed part of the conversation around the final. Once the Klaasen/Miller partnership was broken that was the end of their recognised batters, even if Jansen, Maharaj and Rabada have played handy knocks in the past.
@utubetruthteller
@utubetruthteller 4 күн бұрын
pitches were bitches in that tournament 😅😊
@palaninadeson3032
@palaninadeson3032 4 күн бұрын
India is different, cricket is a religion in sports for Indians no matter what religion they belongs to. They pray as their own belief but when come to cricket Indians are one to support team India ❤❤❤, that's the love for cricket for Indians ❤❤
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 4 күн бұрын
We love the passion!
@chukrob4904
@chukrob4904 4 күн бұрын
Nice set of mastrubators only pod. cast. Hsw haw haw😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@NinjaSwami
@NinjaSwami 4 күн бұрын
Change your channels name too.... Top order sour loser Podcast 😅
@AbleLawrence
@AbleLawrence 5 күн бұрын
The whole seeding system is a legacy of the old ICC dominated by England and Australia. Even Australia New Zealand World Cup in the nineties had such seedings
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 4 күн бұрын
Did those seedings determine who played who in later rounds? Maybe they did and we didn’t realise. Just seems very strange. Afghanistan for example finished second in their pool but went to Super 8 phase as C1 because they took what was viewed as NZ’s spot. Wouldn’t it make more sense for West Indies to be C1 and Afghanistan C2 to reflect the actual group result?
@SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi
@SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi 5 күн бұрын
Nothing more satisfying than seeing the Aussies not able to qualify the semis. Rohit basically smacked them out of the tournament this time.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 4 күн бұрын
Rohit’s intent was superb - what a way for him to bow out of T20is
@nsn5564
@nsn5564 5 күн бұрын
I had to stop watching at the nonsense about Sky's catch. There is plenty of actual real evidence that the catch was clean. I consider this petty and unbecoming of decent sports people to focus on instead of actually appreciating India's victory. I can't take this any more. Very disappointed in your channel. It would have been a little more gracious to start with something decent. Too bad. I unsubbed. I expect that kind of stuff from the haters at TGC who delight over every opportunity to passive-aggressively troll India, but thought this channel might be different.
@sabertrat
@sabertrat 5 күн бұрын
man they just said everyone should get over it, they didn't say anything controversial at all. Watch the whole thing first before jumping on conclusions. But yes, it shouldn't even be a conversation.
@AbleLawrence
@AbleLawrence 5 күн бұрын
Anyone who still talks about the legality of the catch is a bad loser
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 4 күн бұрын
@nsn5564 It’s a shame you feel this way - if you’d watched until the end of that discussion (only a couple of minutes), you’d see that we said people need to move on from it. Whether you think it is a fair topic or not, it’s been a big talking point after the match. We’re all unanimous in our praise for India’s victory and you’ll have seen that during our coverage of the tournament (and even in this episode). I will say that difference of opinion is actually a good thing and it can make discussion more interesting to present different sides to the argument and we can all decide where we stand on certain topics.
@rrao7963
@rrao7963 3 күн бұрын
​@@thetoporderpodcastnz was robbed 2019 world cup very disappointed 1 extra run they gave they were the winners
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 3 күн бұрын
Yes that was a heartbreaking day for us - except Binksy who is an England supporter! Amazingly we started the podcast together not long after.
@AsitdyaDsr
@AsitdyaDsr 5 күн бұрын
The line was not marked ( only dry grass) so the original marking must be under the cushion . Either way it’s a fair catch as he took it cleanly as per the existing boundary and as visible clearly on TV. If it’s moved by air or rain or what ever it’s ICC’s and umpire’s job. They declared it as fair . End of discussion. India were best, unbeaten and well deserved wold champions. 🏆 👑
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 4 күн бұрын
I’m not sure if you watched the full episode, but we agree with you and that’s exactly what we said.
@AsitdyaDsr
@AsitdyaDsr Күн бұрын
@@thetoporderpodcast Great. watched it. 👍
@kailass3216
@kailass3216 5 күн бұрын
They are making money from india and also troll indian team 😂😂😂😂
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 4 күн бұрын
No trolling here, but it seems some people have watched the first minute of the conversation and got very wound up.
@JamesPlaysCricket
@JamesPlaysCricket 5 күн бұрын
Forgettable World Cup from New Zealand...but hopefully better things to come in the future. Binksy was on fire today! The England squad is interesting for sure, will be interesting to see how the Test Series plays out 👍
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 4 күн бұрын
Yeah looking forward to this Test series, but sad to say goodbye to Jimmy!
@rahulkapur687
@rahulkapur687 5 күн бұрын
Not a choke by SA... Indian skill and grit choked them and then it was a knock out! The threat of J. Bumrah makes top batsmen behave in strange ways, even when he's not bowling! 🇮🇳
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
Yes J Bumrah is quite the bowler - such a joy to watch.
@Ozukovsky
@Ozukovsky 5 күн бұрын
The mark on the boundary was from the previous match. Also if the boundary deserves to be brought back and that wasnt a catch then during India's innings everytime they hit towards that side they got denied boundaries as well. So who will keep a tab on that?? The players don't have an issue, the south african officials and cricket board dont have an issue so people should stop creating controversy unnecessarily. If there was something wrong south africa could have written to the ICC
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
Yes we agree - time for everyone to move on
@roobanloganathan6498
@roobanloganathan6498 5 күн бұрын
Btw, wat you guys think of Root’s latest statement about Bairstow’s stumping by Carey during the last Ashes series? For me, it’s a bit too late as if he had said this when the stumping happened, it wouldn’t have been a big controversy as it was.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
Yeah best that we all move on from that - the actions spoke at the time and both teams I’m sure are thinking more about the next Ashes than back to that series.
@roobanloganathan6498
@roobanloganathan6498 5 күн бұрын
England are starting their preparations for next year’s Ashes thus they have discarded their senior bowlers to see whether the new young bowlers can do well and are ready to play in Australian conditions. Their batters 1-6 will not be changed unless someone does really badly , so no changes there. Foakes was not selected because although he is a good WK, he doesn’t score enough runs and the management want a WK who can score 60-70 runs quickly. I think it’s time for NZ board to do the same and check out a few young players as preparation for the retirement of seniors.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
Interesting thoughts about NZ - I do think the next 12 months we will start to see younger players coming through in more numbers, particularly in the white ball formats. Ravindra, Phillips, Sears, O’Rourke already, with a few others seemingly close based on the team that went to Pakistan during the IPL and a few other signs.
@roobanloganathan6498
@roobanloganathan6498 5 күн бұрын
@@thetoporderpodcast The one player who seems to hv disappeared is Ajaz Patel since he took 10 wickets against India playing in India which not every bowler can do. Hope he finds his form and get back into the NZ test team asap.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
Yes that was an amazing performance, even in a loss. He may get another opportunity on the tours to Sri Lanka and India (plus Afghanistan test). They may also look to bring a younger spinner into the fold.
@Arjun-ev3qm
@Arjun-ev3qm 5 күн бұрын
Did south africa choke or India were too good or bit of both?bcoz they did well by taking spinners apart and also coped bumrah spell well.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
Yes South Africa should have got to the finish line from 30 off 30 balls, but saying they choked I think would take away from India’s quality in those final 5 overs. Both teams put on a great show but unfortunately only one could win.
@beautifulbridgetmb
@beautifulbridgetmb 5 күн бұрын
Great chat guys
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@roobanloganathan6498
@roobanloganathan6498 5 күн бұрын
About the seedings and fixtures, all these matters were discussed and approved by all participating boards before it was released to the public on January 5th. So, everything was known to everyone for 5 months before the tournament started but not 1 board nor media made noise until the British media started the complaints when England was in trouble not going to Super 8. Why didn’t they made noise from January itself if they were sincere? About India playing their SF in Guyana, this was because it was a special request from the Guyana govt to CWI as CWI was one of the organisers. So, all the stories spread by the British n Aust media about ICC favouritism towards India was false. India arrived in Barbados only at midnight after the SF and did not train the day before the final. Where’s the advantage that India got ? In every WC, the British and Aussie media will make noises if their team chances of winning are in danger.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
Yes no strong complaints from us, but that’s not to say that it couldn’t be improved with some tweaking to allow more time before the semi finals for all teams and especially getting rid of those predetermined seedings. Always good to think about ways to make the tournament a better product for fans and thinking about conditions that will produce the best cricket. Something we forgot to mention as well but hopefully won’t happen again is for an international tournament to follow so closely after the IPL - I do think this has a negative impact on preparation for all the teams, with some handling it better than others.
@roobanloganathan6498
@roobanloganathan6498 5 күн бұрын
@@thetoporderpodcast I agree things should have been better as the journeys between islands was very bad and because of this, teams were delayed and many journalists and fans couldn’t get to the venues . In the end, we all agree on one thing, all the boards were more concerned about the amount they will be getting from ICC than the comfort of players, journalists and fans.
@Araj763
@Araj763 4 күн бұрын
⁠@@thetoporderpodcast About the presseding it was due to broadcaster. Indian broadcaster brought like 90% of the money to the table so we had pressedings and morning matches were alloted to India. Also the Indian cricket team was not happy abt morning matches as condition in the evening were easier. Preseedings had happened in 2014,2016,2021,2022 and it happens in other sports also
@nsn5564
@nsn5564 3 күн бұрын
@@thetoporderpodcast So there was no need of any tweaking when Australia won? Or England won? Interesting how that goes...
@user-qd2rt2bv3f
@user-qd2rt2bv3f 5 күн бұрын
Upset about boundary Africa❌ Bangladesh England Australia Pakistan ☑️☑️☑️☑️
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
There hasn’t been much controversy about it over here in New Zealand - mostly just people talking about what an amazing piece of fielding it was from SKY under immense pressure.
@user-qd2rt2bv3f
@user-qd2rt2bv3f 5 күн бұрын
@@thetoporderpodcast it's not that world It Chinese mobile they shown indian how did cheating
@Snoozefor10minutes
@Snoozefor10minutes 5 күн бұрын
​@@user-qd2rt2bv3fwhat? What are you trying to say bro? 😅
@roobanloganathan6498
@roobanloganathan6498 5 күн бұрын
Now that the curse has been broken by this team, time for Team India to go on and win a trophy every year. The new players who will come into Team India will now be motivated to emulate wat their heroes did this year and win trophies.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
They certainly have the talent and depth to keep on winning for a long time yet.
@GotheBlackCaps-wf9ku
@GotheBlackCaps-wf9ku 5 күн бұрын
What a credit it is to Jimmy Anderson that he is almost 42 years old and you guys are talking about how he could carry on longer rather than stopping now - and that I agree! Looked the best of the English seamers in India and expect him to be even better at home. Going to miss watching him swing the ball.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
Totally - what a legend
@roobanloganathan6498
@roobanloganathan6498 5 күн бұрын
Tqvm guys for not picking India as favourites , otherwise, the favourite curse would have struck Team India. 🙏🙏🙏
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
Haha you’re welcome 😀
@SriMahaVishnu_Lakshmi
@SriMahaVishnu_Lakshmi 6 күн бұрын
Very nice analysis with out using filthy words, well-done, I have subscribed 👍
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 5 күн бұрын
Appreciate your support🏏👍
@SriMahaVishnu_Lakshmi
@SriMahaVishnu_Lakshmi 6 күн бұрын
Very good analysis 👍
@GoluKr-hn3lb
@GoluKr-hn3lb 6 күн бұрын
Great analysis 👍. Keep going ❤
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 6 күн бұрын
Thank you! Shame the World Cup is over, but plenty more cricket (and cricket chat) where that came from!
@jetpark3743
@jetpark3743 6 күн бұрын
Incredible podcast
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 6 күн бұрын
Thanks!
@invisible3237
@invisible3237 6 күн бұрын
Without kohli india was down him standing gave axar the freedom to go for it
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 6 күн бұрын
Yes his innings allowed the others to hit out. Crucial!
@AkashKumar-yt8eh
@AkashKumar-yt8eh 6 күн бұрын
Your new subscriber!! Love from India🎉
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 6 күн бұрын
Great to have you onboard 👍
@invisible3237
@invisible3237 6 күн бұрын
Jansen knew he had to defend bumrah also knew he had to do that jansen showed his bat like captain america's shield a perfect defense with a big body and bat but still still bumrah found a gap to go in between his bat and pads and dismantle the top of leg stump with a swing like in lord's This is heritage this is the greatest fast bowler of this generation standing tall in the biggest moments
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 6 күн бұрын
Bumrah is such a joy to watch, even for us as neutrals. Incredible skill and also his ability to out-think the opposition is so impressive.
@winnersmotivationgroup9523
@winnersmotivationgroup9523 7 күн бұрын
30 ball 30 run Miller on strike 😊well done jaspreet, arsh Deep
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 6 күн бұрын
Yes it was a very impressive performance from those seamers to turn things around from that position 👏
@redshiftgalaxy3718
@redshiftgalaxy3718 7 күн бұрын
Just to be clear, SA did not choke, not at all. The brilliance of Bumrah and an exceptional catch by Sky made the u-turn. Huge respect for SA team.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 6 күн бұрын
We agree - great performance from both sides to put on a brilliant final.
@aniruddhkulakarni7261
@aniruddhkulakarni7261 7 күн бұрын
Great analysis guys. Really looked into the minute details of the game with precise understanding and analysed perfectly... I didn't have the track of time until you guys finised the podcast. Loved it great job... Kudos to you people🙌🙌
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 7 күн бұрын
Lost in the moment - what awesome feedback. Thanks heaps for sharing 👍
@sreeramrenganathan4586
@sreeramrenganathan4586 7 күн бұрын
Good analysis! Loved the channel. Also just want to know what's happening generally in nz cricket. All news related to domestic and other stuff like that.. It would be nice to know since it is a nz KZfaq channel
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 7 күн бұрын
Thanks! Things are a bit quiet on the domestic scene here in NZ at the moment since it is our offseason but we try to get a lot of NZ content on the channel. We’re expecting the central international contracts to be announced this month, so we’ll discuss when that happens - next up for us will probably be England’s home tests, but we will talk generally about this World Cup one more time tomorrow night NZ time.
@2sridhark
@2sridhark 7 күн бұрын
SKY’s match was very good, so good the Pakistanis think it was not a catch at all!
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 7 күн бұрын
Haven’t seen much of that chat - amazing he was able to stay so balanced and calm in that moment. Looked like a great catch to us.
@akshatkapoor7819
@akshatkapoor7819 7 күн бұрын
Excellent and balanced post match analysis. Subscribed!
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 7 күн бұрын
Thanks! Really appreciate the kind words👍🏏
@1976anands
@1976anands 7 күн бұрын
Guys the 2024 T20 World Cup is over and India has won it. We celebrated for one full day. Now let’s move on.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 7 күн бұрын
😀
@kulvindersingh2330
@kulvindersingh2330 7 күн бұрын
klassen undid all the work he had done before his wicket to hardik pandya, there was no need to hit that shot, he was not able to understand the tactics of india they delayed the play after axar over, he was not able to hold his nerves south africa and nz have to overcome from being these nearly teams, this will hurt him his whole life, both miller and klassen had to calm down each other they knew that the job was not finished such a naive mistake by both batters so close but so far at the end, they threw it away they let fear and pressure get the better of them during that game.
@thetoporderpodcast
@thetoporderpodcast 7 күн бұрын
It feels harsh to say Klaasen threw it away, but agree that him and Miller will probably be hurting because they were so close and it was within the grasp of their ability to get SA home.