yep iirc there are, or were, games, which didnt even launch without avx, its a matter of time when we start seeing the same with avx2. Imo if you are buying cpu today and want to use it for at least 3 years, consider those who have up to date avx instruction sets (avx512 excluded for now). It might sound trivial at first but having capable hardware only to get greeted by errors is the least thing you want from your system

@@h1tzzYT I can assure you that Video Games will not be using AVX512 for the next 30 years.

it really is, its also very optimized and it can run pretty fair on older multi-core cpus. my i5-2400 was able to run it which was 9 years old at the point before its release.

@@banguseater Yes, but how well?

Oh boy you should see BF2042, that game can squeeze every bit of electric through my 5800x somehow. +90% usage on every core on that 8 core cpu is somehow remarkable

@@s0rr0wHacker Well, its a game thats made to run WITH 6 cores/ 12 threads. So any 8 core CPU will have issues since you have the game + OS + Software running.

@@s0rr0wHacker apprently the high cpu usage is a bug that dice acknowledged before the class system rework update. i always knew it was super unoptimized cause my r5 5600x suffers the same result and but a i7-3770 uses the same amount of usage.

Mine makes my rampage iv extreme bsod after a while even at 3.9, quite quickly at a max of 4.4. Were you doing anything in particular to stop your vrm's from melting? Also, how did the 2697 compare?

​@@shreddherring That sounds like some weird instability. Maybe smth about ram setup, mobo, psu or even cpu itself? I had mine 1680v2 on plain stock P9X79 and while vrms were HOT, running it in better airflow case and with not as high voltages was without problems really. 2697v2 was really just stick the most cores possible into this setup, play a bit with it and to storeroom it goes. Well. It was faster in R23 and really in day to day use it was similar to 1680.

@@ThebestLilMissRarity2 Yeah, could be a board instability, might need a new bios chip perhaps? Either that or I need to remove the ancient gunk from under the chipset heatsink and repaste maybe. Could be that your board is better build. I guess you wont really notice a difference until you do something that's able to use the extra threads

@@shreddherring Never really had problem with bios on mobo but who knows. Sometimes disassembling, cleaning and assembling works but it's hard to judge.

Even the 18c/36t Xeons are still used by companies. Due to the current prices and shortages, we will still see these old Xeons everywhere on KZfaq.

@@takehirolol5962 i3 10100f + h510 can be had for as low as $150 and those'll be new parts with warranty and many new features, performance on par with 7700k or better.

@@vinylSummer Yes, you are right. In 2016 I had a i3 6100, then moved to Ryzen 5 2600 and now have a Ryzen 5 5600x. Just waiting for a 100% or more GPU upgrade for my RX 5700XT that makes monetary sense.

@@vinylSummer Well, even many v3 xeons have more rare performance and a lot more PCIe lanes. Then you usually have two of them per motherboard.

@@vinylSummer while the 10100 and the 7700 are fundamentally the same cpu, their performance differs vastly once you overclock the i7, something the i3 can’t do due to its locked multiplier. The i3 goes up to 4.3ghz while a 7700k is likely to OC to 5.0 or 5.1 so it’s not an insignificant difference.

Hot damn! 1.23v and 4,5?? What a chip. I’m patiently waiting for the Xeon v3 unicorns to be dumped onto the market 🙏🏾

Ivy bridge is hit and miss finding a good chip also. My previous CPU the 1650v2 needed 1.375v for 4.5ghz. but when you find a good one they hit decent clocks even on air. Both the 1680v2 and 5960X were run on the Noctua D14 and never went over 90c with extreme stress tests. For under 1.275V air cooling is doable but for anything over that a 240/360 AIO is probably best suited.

If you can find a motherboard for a reasonable price its worth considering, since lga 2066 cpus are likely to continue dropping in price in upcoming years

A long time ago I got a killer deal on the EVGA x299 Dark motherboard. I paired that with a 7820x that I got for someone who upgraded to the 7940x. About a year ago I got the i9-7960x for $300usd through one of those Chinese sellers on ebay. Delidded it and overclocked it to 4.6ghz with the RAM at 3466mhz. It's just too bad that the cache/uncore didn't want to move much past 3200mhz. with those lga2066 processors, Getting the uncore up as high as possible is the secret to getting the most out of those processors.

I play on a 2697 v2, oddly performs better than my 3500x i downgraded from. I always had issues in EFT. Swapped out my itx am4 board and went with an itx x79 board in the same exact system and my problems are gone. Very odd

Good luck getting a good am4 board used at a good price nowadays

@@My_Old_YT_Account plenty at 50$

@@GewelReal It depends on where you live, in Brazil an A320 motherboard can cost 75$ new and anything used below 60/55$ is uncommon :/

These older platforms are almost never worth it if you can't find a good deal. I basically got the same set as in the video ( just different ram) for €150 a some months ago. But considering the cooling requirements I would say you'd have to find it below €200 ish for it to make sense.

Unless you find a unicorn of a deal. I saw someone selling a working Asus X79-Deluxe board for $60 on offerup. Personally though, if someone was looking at these old HEDT setups, I'd recommend the x99 platform to them, not x79. There's more CPU performance to be had with Haswell through overclocking, and x99 boards will have a PCIe 3.0 NVME drive at full speed. I just checked ebay and used B450 motherboards are now going for $70 at the minimum, and +$100 for a board that has decent enough VRMs to support a 5900x. Last summer they were going for $40 for the lower end boards. Back then I managed to get a deal on a B450M Steel Legend motherboard for $50, but the BIOS on the board was older and it would only support Zen+ processors at the most. lol, there are still tons of lga1200 motherboards that are going for lower prices.

Ayeee thats the ticket to good SLI/Crossfire gaming. These new Mobos(X299 excluded) just dont have enough PCIE lanes. Crazy how fast you run outta storage on these modern platforms with just like 24 lanes.

@@insurgentlowcash7564 yes, I am tired of consumer level platforms lacking in PCIe lanes. It wasn't like this before so there's no real excuse for it. I think Desktop grade platforms should get 48 PCIe lanes, so you can at least add a 10Gbps NIC adapter, Sound adapter, and two graphics cards if you wish. Not that you will add those, but if you wish you can.

Got a couple of X79 ones lined up already 😁

I had a 4790k in my main PC. I put a E5 1680V2 in my second PC and it was faster in every game. So I retired the 4790k and replaced it with a 5960x.

I wouldn't say x79/x99 are past their prime. What they are being used for is a factor. If someone is looking for a higher performing work PC/office PC on a budget, nothing wrong with a x79 or x99 based Xeon build. I picked up a e5-2650 v2 xeon kit from AliExpress for like $130 CAD in October 2021 (cpu + ram + mobo) which went to be my Linux Mint daily driver (non gamer) the same $130 CAD was the cost of ONLY my Ryzen 5 1600 CPU used from AliExpress in Jan 2021. Budget Xeon builds I find are perfectly fine, as long as expectations are tempered. IF gaming with a budget Xeon platform, make sure to invest a bit more towards the GPU solution is all.

the value is really bad if you want to overclock, a ryzen 3600 or i3 12100 could be great alternatives

Bro atp just get a cheap water cooler there not expensive I got a EVGA clc 280 for 60$ and I have my 1680 v2 at 4.6 GHz and it doesn’t get over 55 Celsius

Go with the 5960x instead. I also have a Rampage V and I bought three of those E5-1600 v3 chips and the memory controller on them is Garbage. I fought with all three of them to get a 4x8gb kit of the finest B-Die RAM DDR4-3600 cl15 to 2666mhz. A J-Batch 5960x and a Broadwell-E processors will have Zero problems getting the RAM to run at 3200MT/s. Overclocking the RAM and Cache on these Haswell-E processors is what puts them over the top.

@@m8x425 except the 5960x is the exact same die as the 1660v3 and 1680v3, but with ECC disabled. the 1680v3 is the highest binned of the bunch.

What current gpu do you have paired with it? I need to upgrade from amd R9 fury X. Thank you.

Yeah, I'm disappointed too. The RAM itself isn't the issue either, as I've got it to run at 2400 on (spoiler) the i5-4690K and i7-5775C, but so far not one of the X79 CPUs I've tested could handle it.

@@IcebergTech if it helps you at all, it took roughly 1.35-1.36 vcore to stop getting memory errors at 4.5Ggz. I also have memory voltage manually set to 1.65v. Aswell as VSA and VCCIO manually set to 1.1v. VPLL manually undervolted to 1.7v which did increase my stability and reduce temps a bit. Overcurrent protection is maxed out and vdroop is stock but every board is different in that respect

@@willpeters3833 I was lucky to get an asus p9x79 ws board so it auto adjusts everything it’s so nice I’m running 4.6 ghz with an EVGA clc 280 water cooler

@@mattthamonster842 Auto adjustment works for me too, just for perfection sake, everything is set manually. Im also on a 360mm cooler. I had the CPU at 4.6Ghz and under gaming aswell as benchmarks and its perfectly fine, but even with a 360 if you do a proper stress test/torture test of the cpu i could quickly get to 100% fan speed, i imagine yours would be the same. Its incredible how much heat these cpu's can put out under that kind of load

@@willpeters3833 my only works with 1.4 vcore on 4.5 ghz, but i am still very glad), it is fast enough even for now. I also overclocked the bus to 104.7 and it is maximum, further overclocking made it unstable, it also gave a boost in performance, cause the ring bus is now 3350 mhz. VSA and VCCIO needed to be around 1.16 and the 32gb memory only worked on 1950 mhz, but low timings like 9-11-10-22 1T, so the performance is still very good in games, cause actually the read and write speeds in 4 channel are still very very decent. Further overclocking of RAM with that amount of 32gb will require VCCIO like more than 1.2v, it is not the bugs in x79, it is the processors which just have weak memory controllers and need a lot of voltage, which is not safe. PLL is default. I am able to pass any test even LINX for hours and it is 100% stable. But i have a very strong EK Waterblocks 360 cooling system with thick radiator. Overall it is a great CPU! Intel had to just castrate AVX2 in it or it would last forever)).

or the newest Harry Potter game. It also seems very CPU demanding

I'm liking my Ryzen 7 1800x. I got it used with heatsink, 8gb ram, 256 M.2 and OEM x370 motherboard for $120. It preforms well for me, but I really need to get a proper motherboard. The Dell OEM one has some weird quirks. Anyways, the Ryzen 7 1800x's single core performance at the time was less than the i7 7700k, and in 2017 4 cores was all one needed. Also, the i7 was cheaper at the time. So, the i7 7700k was often called the winner. However, I believe the 1800x aged better in the long run. Kind of like how the Threadripper 1920x has probably aged quite well over the years.

@@Rabbit_AF aging well does seem to be amds whole shtick. Im banking on my 5800X3D and 6900xt to do the same. Its my first ever “endgame” build and im hoping it should last at least a decade.

@@steaksoldier I've seen that the 1800x can run ReBar (AMD SAM) on a ASUS B450-PLUS and I am thinking that should be the board I shoot for, if I am going to stick with this CPU for a while.

I’d love to, one day

likely you got a good piece of the silicon lottary there.

I have a couple of multiplier-locked Xeons lined up for testing, one of which is a 2680v2!

@@IcebergTech have fun playing around with them. I'd like to see a dual lga771 test if you get your hands on a cheap server/workstation with pci-e in the future

Of course = slave labor

Just click on his channel and scroll down his videos. I'm pretty sure he did.

@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 A thousand thanks!

Considering SCAN were selling the 3600 for £86 new not too long ago and even the 3700X have dropped sub £100 on ebay ryzen cpus are still the most rounded option

sorry to say but Ryzen platform cost is still more expensive. You do have an upgrade path yes. However there are those users that don't take advantage of the upgrade path Ryzen offers and choose to ditch the whole rig and buy another. I know that Ryzen costs more since I built 2 new/used rigs in 2021. my ryzen core components of r5 1600 + b350 mobo + ram came to about $400 CAD my e5-2650 v2 xeon kit was only $130 CAD, all parts were from AliExpress, except the flare x Gskill for the r5-1600 rig which I bought local.

Can you please provide your bios settings? I cannot reach 4,5 ghz stable

@@awsed25 I had to settle down at 4470. using the 125 strap x 35

I bought a second 1680v2 for an Asus X79-Deluxe motherboard that I found on Craigslist. The 2nd one would do 4.5ghz comfortably, but it needed a touch more than 1.4v to do 4.6ghz stable. My first 1680v2 does 4.6ghz at 1.365v, 100% stable and a bump more than 1.4v to hit 4.7ghz stable. Both have no problems running DDR3-2400. Techpowerup has a long running thread that's dedicated to the x79 platform, and it seems 4.5ghz with reasonable voltages is fairly common.

@@m8x425 2400 divider is broken on x79 with ivy bridge. It's very possible that they aren't actually running 2400. I can do 4.7 at 1.45, 4.6 at 1.425 and 4.5 at 1.35 on the same chip. It seems like 4.6 at ~1.4v is about the limit which is about a very large majority of the samples can achieve. I believe the x79 refresh boards for ivy were to fix the supply for the uncore as most first release x79 boards cap out VCCIO due to the current requirements for the cache and will fail under heavy stress. Sandy did not have the large cache size like these larger ivy xeons.

You can get it for around 80€ now. Really nice to see a price drop on this chip. A lot of cores and the highest clocks in the lineup.

wow, hope electricity costs are low where you are. That's a beast on power to operate if gaming.

And if it is possible could you share all your settings in BIOS? Thank you for help

I have same cpu and mobo

Could you please provide your settings from bios?? I cannot reach stable 4,5ghz oc:(((

My vrm is watercooled ,same setup, great temps lol

@@6000lost Ah, that probably helps!

For 4,5 ghz oc

Would love to, except right now it's terrible value! I can't find one in the UK for less than I paid for the 1680 v2, and they're extortionately priced on AliExpress!

@@IcebergTech would have loved to give/sell you mine, but I use it in my main rig

@@IcebergTech You could get the Xeon E5 1660 v2, basically a carbon copy of the i7 4960X.

I bet you are giving it too much voltage leaving it on auto. Be safe m8.

I *am* going to cover a couple of Ryzens soon, but not quite that old. Should still be interesting though!

@@IcebergTech got a ryzen 7 2700 for 150 euros in 2020, carried my ass tru those hard times till i upgraded to a 5800x