I get it just go with the flow and everything else will be taken care of

I don't know if its the desires of mankind. Because Guts rebels against it too, and survives his sacrifice, despite he himself is a man. Plenty of people have their own desires and can be caught up by causality against their will. I think a better explanation is that it is literally is just how mankind perpetuates a cycle of suffering upon itself. Godhand members are representation of how man inflicts suffering upon others. Femto is presumably raw ambition, Void probably is religious devotion, Slan is probably lust etc... and each Godhand members needs to subjugate humanity to continue the cycle. Idea of Evil's command to Griffith to do as he wills is because Griffith's pursuit of his ambition will bring pain and sorrow, keeping the proverbial heart beating.

@@riskymesk A major theme of the Manga is the duality of humanity. That of our animalistic nature and of our higher will that can allow us to rise above it. A struggler is someone who's will is so strong that they are able to swim against the flow of causality. Whilst the majority of people will be swept up in its torrent. You can kind of see an allusion to this in the bonfire of dreams. Everyone casts their light into the raging bonfire because they aren't bright enough to light their own way. Guts sees himself as a traveller who's just warming himself by the fire because he is. His will is too strong to be completely consumed by the bonfire, but he has no telos guiding his path, he, at that time, was just wondering from place to place, with no real goal or plan. An apostle is a person who has fully submitted to their animal urgers, their base desires, their shadow. This is why Zodd is powerless to disobey Griffith, he is a puppet of causality. He has no will because in all likeliehood, the Skull Knight was the higher self of King Geiseric and Zodd was his beast of darkness. They more than likely separated in a failed individuation brought about by the Berserker armour. The exact thing Guts is about to go through, and hopefully not fail. The whole Manga has been an externalisation of the internal conflict a person goes through when they undergo a Jungian individuation, in which a person grapples with their shadow and must accept it as part of themselves to move forward as a more complete person. Apostles are slaves to their desires, they're what happens when a persons shadow runs unchecked. Zodd can do nothing but fight because that is the desire that defines him. The skull knight is a revenant of will, someone so disgusted by their shadow they reject it entirely. And in doing so cut themselves off from the human experience (he's a hollow suit of armour who is defined by his perpetual struggle with fate.) The idea of Evil is a personification of the collective shadow of humanity as it resides in the collective unconsciousness. It's not some separate entity, even though that's how it is perceived. It's the sum total of all human desire. Everything that makes animals of man. Guts is going to have to integrate his shadow, the beast of darkness, into himself to have his confrontation with Griffith. But he can't let it consume him or he too will end up a slave to causality.

@@Cernunnnos Dude that explains a lot more. Thank you for sharing your insight. The series is even deeper than I thought. I really hope it gets the ending it deserves.

@@riskymesk You and me both. I'd honestly just settle for Miura's notes and sketches. I just want to see what he had planned. I obviously think I've got a pretty good handle on where it was going, but you're never going to guess things 100%

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And so we are the children of lillith; blind, mewling, destructive and ignorant. So we are, and so we make. The wheel must spin.

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@@jonbaird8835 why do you say that?

Yeah I see it as a reflection of human desire just like the godhand really only want to give you what you desire with a dark twist but idk they seem inherently neutral evil compared to apostles like Irvine who's the most human of apostles.

Perhaps it just feels like a more reasonable desire.

Yeah I'm glad i got to read it. Because I sometimes need a big fluorescent sign telling me what's what. Sometimes stories can leave a little too much up to imagination

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I think the magical and asteral world existing in the physical realm were able to create good. That through discipline and prayer people created gods that helped them, but I believe the sins of the United Realm under Gaseric created the calamity that separated the physical world into a place without any gods. Pain and suffering being so prolific then created the God of Evil. A desire to think that their is some reason for a person's ill fate as well as desire for revenge

@@bmustardman I heard a theory a few days ago that also said, that all of this is somehow connected to King Geyseric. Well all we can do is hope that we live to see the ending of Berserk xD

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is your comma key broken and just inserts in random places?

The thing about the idea of evil is that it was created out of the necessity to justify evil. No one needs to justify good, everyone claims as their own doing. Evil, though, they needed something else to take the blame for that

Yin and Yang for every negative there is a positive Guts is an essential contrast to Griffith, that's what makes Guts so wonderful.

Indeed, the only time we see somewhat of a divine miracle/blessing was when scheirke had all the villagers pray 🙏🏾 to stop the forces of darkness, and it worked

I think the asteral realm and magic have good to offer. And being separated from it has cause an imbalance of pain and suffering creating more evil. I often wonder if someone ever rejected the deal with the God Hand on their initial eclipse. That instead of becoming a monster apostle they become an Apostle of the light? Obviously their souls would have to not be already damned like the Counts.

No, because humans fundamentally don't need or ask for reasons for good things to happen. They ponder life's hardships, but take its gifts for granted. An idea of good would fundamentally undermine Berserk as a series. It would take agency from characters who are opposing fate and desires.

Meh, the idea that humans are inherently evil Isn't an uncommon one.

I am not a big Berserk expert but from what I understand the way the layers of reality work the deeper down a being exists the less logical constraints apply to it but the harder it has to affect the real topmost world. And the idea of evil a being without any logical limits that is all knowing and all powerfull and responsible for semingly everything should have zero ability to actually use it's infinite power to affect the world, but it somehow got the ability to affect the world. It is probably not unique in being an "idea" of absolute perfection and embodyment of a concept as a platonic archetype but the rituals that Void or the original summoners or communicators of the idea of evil did that allowed it to respond is probably what makes it special. As an example there probably is an "idea of comfort" that is the most comfortable being in existence and causes everything else in existence to gain it's level of comfort. This being is shaped by all lifeforms idea of what something being comfortable is and it's only purpuse is to make everything that is comfortable just as comfortable as they are. This being that doesn't do anything to change our reality and can't be affected by anything in our reality might as well not exist but it technically does and has infinite power in the same way the idea of evil does it just never use it. The idea of evil is like if Void reached out to and talked to gravity and gravity decided to respond and change the way it interacted with the real world. A law of nature that arbitarilly decided to change it's effect to squish random humans when logic dictated that it can't. That is my understanding of the idea of evil.

That seems like a bandaid solution bc im sure evil would still find ways without behelets so perhaps control and reeducation and strong eladership can stop evil down to its roots

It really can only manipulate people and events to a certain extent because the universal power of free will people have. It can't make anybody do anything, really. It's up to that person like the count when he didn't sacrifice his daughter.

Thank god you're not writing it then. That sounds like how a 12 year old who read way too many Shonen manga would end it.

@@makokx7063 thats very kind of you thanks. I suppose the typical conflict of good vs evil forces is exremely cliche. Since its used in like ... everything. How would you end it then?

@VikingVern7 I think most fans would be satisfied with Guts absolutely beating the shit out of Femto and killing him in the most brutal way possible. Anything else is window dressing at this point.

very true @@alexanderjakubowski5673

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They are kind of based on the chaos gods I can't remember the names but yeah

Well the slug count was send to the abyss after refusing to sacrifice his daughter but he was already an apostle we dont know what happens when a human refuse to sacrifice to the god hand?!

@@ghost-writer007 that is true, for now I would imagine the result would be the same as what happened to the slug count. But then again, the human would have to choose between "good and "evil". Maybe only if you affiliate yourself with evil, you will end up like that. And if you refuse as a human, they might just go away.

I don't think so, I don't think it even exists on a spectrum of good and evil (though it is called evil), only that it sprung out from humanity. I think it is more of a neutral force, like the 'chaos of nature', a collection of all of the wants that we push away and deny ourselves for societal reasons.

Interesting insight

It's the animation I believe. It looks clunky like a PS2 video game being released today. Just my opinion though

@@texasfuneral4787 a friend of mine likes it for some reason

@@ryukomatoi592 hey your friend likes what he likes. They can't help having poor taste lol I'm joking. I love a bunch of types of animation from Akira and princess monoke to demon slayer but berserk 16 was just bad to look at for me

It's mostly the animation. And sound design. It's not terrible, but it just seems low effort compared to what the manga was. It's taking legitimately beautiful and painstaking art, turning it into PS2 animations, adding some hatching back on top to remind you of the original great art, and then throwing pots and pans clanging sound effects over everything...Ffs ACTUAL video games have done it better. Seriously compare the 2016 Anime to some of the Video Games and games actually look better....

The animation and sound is lack luster the ps4 video game did better

Cool story,fam.🧐

Griffith is basically evil Jesus!

He knew💀

@@siddhartacrowley8759 the signs are everywere😳

My guess, he had heart and other health problems for years and he prefered to live longer and perfected the story than died in mid 2000s and left story unfinished. In short, script for manga is 99% completed.

@@Motofanable who said it was 99 complete?

@@AKpilations my guess, story is probably written but details like dialogs are not determit.

@@AKpilations u mad selfish 😂

People like you who nitpicks and focus on the negative things instead of the positives are the reason why I dislike interacting with people in the internet. You are one of those when everything is fine? You go silent like a crypt but if any tiny small thing that is wrong? You are the first one to bark.

@@Velshin1986 it's called a criticism. Let the uploader speak up if it bothers them...I'm sure they don't need you white knighting for them.

@@TooLameToDie criticism must be with manners. Calling his pronouncation "funny" is you being a snide dick.

@@Velshin1986 your opinion is meaningless.

@@TooLameToDie Let me guess because I was right? You are one of those people who act like dick and when confronted? You make an excuse of "but this is just a criticism" learn how to critisize before trying to tell others about their prounouncations. I am not being a white knight and not sugar coating anything I know his pronouncations are not perfect at all but it is not that significant that I focus on it instead of focusing on the good contents of the video. Learn to focus on the positives aspects instead of the negatives.