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Identifying Fake 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Cards

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Identifying Fake 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle Cards

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@MatthewCSeuferwindowsheaven
@MatthewCSeuferwindowsheaven 2 жыл бұрын
very informative! felt like I was in a class.Thank You!
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@clevelandsportscards1986
@clevelandsportscards1986 2 жыл бұрын
Very good information dave. I enjoy your content. Thanks for sharing.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I made the parts on backs confusing as both back versions are authentic, just different depending on the front type
@boykinlp
@boykinlp Ай бұрын
Fantastic Information!
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 Ай бұрын
Thank you
@ScottMartinD
@ScottMartinD 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder why PSA doesn't mention/differentiate between a "type 1" & "type 2"?
@natas2727
@natas2727 5 жыл бұрын
Good question if it's true they don't... Hopefully this youtuber will answer.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
I have no idea?!
@_NEW3RA_
@_NEW3RA_ 3 жыл бұрын
I just seen a mantle sale that has the total opposite of what this vid shows. It was sealed & certified authentic. Stitching on ball went the opposite way and the h lined up with the S’s
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
See title which says “ignore commentary on back. “ Stitching and letter alignment differs in type 1 and 2. I do not make that clear
@_NEW3RA_
@_NEW3RA_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 gotcha
@DOXIECHON
@DOXIECHON 2 жыл бұрын
Great info, thanks!
@LeeCopus
@LeeCopus 8 ай бұрын
Im sure that if any counterfeit came across PSA when they 1st started grading that they pass without any detection. Meaning there are some graded fakes out there.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 8 ай бұрын
True I’m sure
@WanderingWeekends
@WanderingWeekends 2 жыл бұрын
assuming the type 1 is more desirable?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
No difference. Some may prefer one over the other I guess
@abetsarixa
@abetsarixa 3 жыл бұрын
Nice information .. really appreciate your efforts .. keep it up🙏
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking in
@garyquinlan2182
@garyquinlan2182 3 жыл бұрын
The type one and type two both have different backs also.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
Correct! I blew the explanation
@Drucom1
@Drucom1 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a 1951 bowman fake video?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Those are not really tough. I don’t think I’m comfortable spotting them
@yodapapavintageamericana
@yodapapavintageamericana 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome job
@redtaylor2281
@redtaylor2281 2 жыл бұрын
HATS OFF, THANK YOU
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr Taylor!
@DW77ZHP
@DW77ZHP 2 жыл бұрын
Type 1 should have the flip
@daunteziser2572
@daunteziser2572 3 жыл бұрын
I have type 1 and the front lines up perfectly but when you go the back side the baseball stitching is the wrong way.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
Disregard my commentary on backs. The stitching can go either way depending on the front type
@reinamartin6397
@reinamartin6397 5 жыл бұрын
Extremely informative video Dave! This is a great reference for anyone considering purchasing this card. Once I hit the lotto and purchase the 52 I'll be referring back to this for sure! Thanks for sharing!!
@markcastanza7918
@markcastanza7918 5 жыл бұрын
What an unbelievably informative video; Dave your videos are a HUGE asset to the collecting community!
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark
@marathawnjawn8862
@marathawnjawn8862 4 жыл бұрын
There is a fake Type 1 on eBay right now (12/22/19). I wish I could show photos on here. The front looks legit, but on the back, the baseball stitching is going from R to L & the S’s line up with the h in “Throw’s Right”. It’s in a PSA case as a graded 1 & it has 68 bids right now for over $5k. One other red flag? The seller had 0% positive feedback. I wish I could tell all these bidders to BEWARE!! Great video - thank you!🙏
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
My commentary on the back was confusing hence I said “ ignore” in the Title . I can’t say for sure this Mantle is not good. The corner rounding is suspicious. I’d have to hold this one. The stitching commentary I used only differentiates type 1 and type 2 not fakes
@marathawnjawn8862
@marathawnjawn8862 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification. After looking at several others online. I see what you mean.
@heribertohernandez8308
@heribertohernandez8308 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this information
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
👍
@alexsimonll4914
@alexsimonll4914 3 жыл бұрын
Now i can perfectly replicate an authentic fake, thanks bro
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck reproducing the print dot matrix and card stock bro, yeesh
@alexsimonll4914
@alexsimonll4914 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 this was a joke metaphorically speaking. Easy bro lol
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexsimonll4914 I have no sense of humor!!!🤣
@PilotsLoungeFishing
@PilotsLoungeFishing 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this informative video. How can I get in touch with you, as I have a few questions.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
Lightningshack25@gmail Ig @bluejacket66
@DJSimonSez
@DJSimonSez 4 жыл бұрын
Would've liked more details about the backs of these. Your info is different from others regarding the back.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
Correct instead of identifying the back differences between type 1 and 2 I made it sound like one was fake. I made it confusing hence the wording in the title to ignore let about backs
@DJSimonSez
@DJSimonSez 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 would love to send you a pic of a prospective buy I have. Checks all the front marks but conflicting on back stitching and letter alignment. Any chance I can do that and get your opinion?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
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@johnfitzwilson3391
@johnfitzwilson3391 4 жыл бұрын
Confusing because PWCC auction shows their 1952 Topps Mantle graded NMT- 8 by PSA with stitching on the baseball on the back going the opposite direction as shown here as legit, and the esses do not line up with the “t” in the word “right”. Yikes.... now what do we do.?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
John My title says ignore the back. I did a poor job in describing back differences of type 1 and 2. Made it confusing and therefore implies backs were fake. Please disregard commentary on backs and I noted in the video title
@mikekeeler6362
@mikekeeler6362 11 ай бұрын
The only 52 mantle that I have is a Topps reprint
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 11 ай бұрын
Still cool!
@mikekeeler6362
@mikekeeler6362 11 ай бұрын
I have a 1952 Topps reprint set
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 11 ай бұрын
Cool!
@FoxCrueCards
@FoxCrueCards 5 жыл бұрын
While this card is out of my realm I thank you for the wonderful education...I love to learn and this was fantastic. Thank you so much for sharing! I now want to go and search one of these out just to look at it. Again...thank you so much!
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
I’d imagine 99.9 % of slabbed 52 Mantles are ok. It’s the raw ones you better be sure about
@GoodfellasNYC
@GoodfellasNYC 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 good evening sir. I have a type 2 rookie card and everything you are saying here is accurate. But what about the flashlight test? I lit it up and I can see the back of the card. Is that considered fake? Thanks
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
@@GoodfellasNYC remember a photocopy will have all the correct markings and attributes. Beyond that you have to compare the card stock and feel to other 1952 cards. Do the colors look right, does the print look right under a loupe…
@GoodfellasNYC
@GoodfellasNYC 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 the colors look right. Looks original to me but not sure.
@GoodfellasNYC
@GoodfellasNYC 2 жыл бұрын
Would it be to much trouble to ask if I can email you a picture of the card? Thank you
@EricKarlin
@EricKarlin 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't grading companies differentiate type 1 versus type 2? Which one is more rare? That would have to add value
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why they don’t. As far as value, there is no difference
@EricKarlin
@EricKarlin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 have you ever come across a fake that matched type 1 or type 2 but was obviously a reproduction?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, many fake cards are essentially a photocopy so will LOOK exactly like a real card. So you have to look at it under a loupe ( see my “ identifying a fake 1951 mantle”) and feel the card stock, use a black light etc
@JENDALL714
@JENDALL714 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not even lucky enough to hold a fake Mickey Mantle let alone a real one.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
One makes you tingle, the other nit so much
@cardbored_
@cardbored_ 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t this just help counterfeiters know what they need to fix?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
They already know!!! I’m just showing what a real card looks like
@word.723
@word.723 2 жыл бұрын
The common practice of fakes is to have paper worn at key places on the card like the missing pixel locations. There is a Mantle like this on eBay right now.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 Жыл бұрын
That’s a little trick they play to try hide a fake
@SaNsToRmS24
@SaNsToRmS24 3 жыл бұрын
Both authentic type 1 and type 2 have differences in the front, what about the back?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
The backs are different in the way the stitching points in the ball, and how the lettering lines up on the right hand side of the card. I tried to explain it but made it sound like one way was fake... which is I correct. I outlined the 2 different backs in the video. Disregard and commentary that indicates one back is fake. Backs are just different in type 1 and 2
@maritzatoledo6923
@maritzatoledo6923 2 жыл бұрын
How much does type 1 go for?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
Type 1 and 2 go for same pricing. Depends on condition/ grade
@mohawkgaming8788
@mohawkgaming8788 4 жыл бұрын
Silverjackify has a vid of a 52 Mantle he purchased...the front looks legit but the back has all the problems you mentioned in this video...he said he watched your vid but you only showed one version of the back of the card...so I'd like to know if there are more then one legit version of the back...you should watch his vid and let us know...I loved your video..very knowledgeable
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
The title of my video says ignore commentary on backs. I made it confusing unfortunately. The back differ between type 1 and 2. Silverjackafys card is fine of course
@mohawkgaming8788
@mohawkgaming8788 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 thanks for replying....I didn't catch that...love the vid.... sometimes I wonder about the psa holders and vintage cards..I heard some of them could be fakes out of China..thought Jordan rookies were being faked and so could Mantle's
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
China gives us all sort of wonders doesn’t it?
@pepinoman9271
@pepinoman9271 5 жыл бұрын
What a great production, appreciate the effort put into this. Thanks for sharing
@mohawkgaming8788
@mohawkgaming8788 4 жыл бұрын
Hey pepino...I've watched a few of your vids...your funny and have a great collection...I like the vid were you caught the thief...anyway check out silverjacks vid of his 52 Mantle...it's in a psa holder but the back has all the fake markings...
@Mstevensyt-qt1to
@Mstevensyt-qt1to 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. My husband and I bought a Topps 1952 Mickey Mantle at a yardsale, everything about the card seems real. Is there a way I could send you some pictures to get your opinion on the card.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
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@GoodfellasNYC
@GoodfellasNYC 2 жыл бұрын
What about the color letters in the back of the card? For example, what color are the red letters supposed to be? Mines seem darker. Thanks
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
Should be pretty bold red. I suppose there could be subtle difference. I’d compare to known real copies
@GoodfellasNYC
@GoodfellasNYC 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 would it be to much trouble to ask if you could please review my type 2mantle??
@mikekeeler6362
@mikekeeler6362 11 ай бұрын
I can't afford to buy a 52 Topps Mantle card so I don't have to worry about it
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 11 ай бұрын
There’s lots of things I don’t own that I still want to learn about
@mountainymountain2539
@mountainymountain2539 2 ай бұрын
Does the missing pixel only appear on the second variant?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 ай бұрын
Correct
@samuelgarcia1030
@samuelgarcia1030 3 жыл бұрын
Quick question type one on the original all the stitches are pointing left type 2 there all facing right, you are telling us that all original should be pointing right, so all this companies that are giving them original slab should be behind bars
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
As per title - disregard comments on the back. Stitching direction and letter lineups differ between the two types. Both backs authentic
@CarsandcoffeeTn
@CarsandcoffeeTn 8 ай бұрын
I have one and i dont know if its real or not but everything on the type 2 authentic one matches with mine we are probably going to go to a card shop tomorrow to see if they can tell for sure
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 8 ай бұрын
Good idea. Remember a photo copy will match up. It’s all about the card
@sheblindedmewithrefractors8795
@sheblindedmewithrefractors8795 5 жыл бұрын
First off Dave this video was incredible!!!!! Super important information for anyone that ever wants to purchase a 52 Mantle. I didn't realize that there were that many differences between type 1 and type 2. Its all in the details!!!! Thanks for sharing this knowledge Dave!!!!
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
I actually get things mixed up between the 2 myself sometimes
@michaelrusso2825
@michaelrusso2825 10 ай бұрын
Ok but what if we find one how do we sell it
@nicholasyoder
@nicholasyoder 2 жыл бұрын
How do they end up in real graded holders?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
That is very very rare. Even if that’s the case it may be the holder was fake or tampered with
@BaseballCollector
@BaseballCollector 5 жыл бұрын
Just an outstanding education Dave. I love it!! Someday when I buy a ‘52 Mantle, this will be my guide.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike Ps I’m really going thru the cards in that collection of your friends you inquired about. We’ll chat soon about it
@michaelotten2724
@michaelotten2724 5 жыл бұрын
Title says disregard comments on fake backs..so what are we supposed to look for.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
The backs of the type 1 and 2 are different. I tried to say hey if the type 2 back is on a type 1 then it’s fake. I didn’t make it clear at all. There are 2 different backs which i described. One is for type 1 and one for type 2. Both are good . Too confusing.
@TheValdivia1
@TheValdivia1 3 жыл бұрын
Dave, so most cards on ebay are fake? 80% of the cards listed don't have the T align with both S. I'm curious to know as I am interested on buying one, but got pushed away after watching your video. Thank you
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
Note my title says “ ignore commentary on backs” I really messed that up. While trying to show differences between type 1 and 2 backs I made them sound fake
@danandrachelcrall5270
@danandrachelcrall5270 2 жыл бұрын
Can a Type 1 be replicated with all the items you pointed out? Looking at one now making sure its real. Great video also.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
Sure can Take a picture of one and there you go! Many times it comes down to feeling the card and looking at the print under magnification
@HUNKadelic281
@HUNKadelic281 4 жыл бұрын
wait, so is the information on spotting a fake back of a mickey mantle incorrect?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
That’s right. I was pointing out the differences in a type 1 and type 2 backs. The way stitching on ball and letters line up are unique to type 1 and type 2 . I didn’t state which back type correlates with which front.... so just ignore the back talk
@Bowman1951
@Bowman1951 5 жыл бұрын
One of the most informative videos I've seen in a long time, thanks so much for giving us all of this info...even if the card will rarely be in people's affordable range.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the views and comments!!!
@paulneumayer7428
@paulneumayer7428 2 жыл бұрын
I have this card definitely type 1 as you described, it is in fair shape. Is there anything else I need to know about the card and how do I go about having it graded or do I even bother I would love to send you some pics if possible thanks
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
I would grade it faith PSA or SGC. Their websites have instructions and the proper forms. Any 52 topps mantle should be graded
@tommy..980
@tommy..980 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the price difference between type 1and 2 if they both are authentic?????
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
Same price
@tommy..980
@tommy..980 4 жыл бұрын
And on the back you said there different... But you showed the back of one of them... was it the type 2 or type 1???? And what is the difference between the two???? Very confusing understanding the back
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
Title says ignore content on the backs... I made it too confusing Main difference is the direction the stitching on the ball on the back points
@Smitherly85
@Smitherly85 16 күн бұрын
Bluejacket66 do you think you can help me authenticate my mickey mantle card so i know whether or not to get it graded
@jameslesnik6630
@jameslesnik6630 2 жыл бұрын
Is PSA making the mistake by authenticating these fake Mantles, or is someone putting a fake Mantle in a fake PSA slab?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt PSA is authenticating fake cards
@jeffairtime3412
@jeffairtime3412 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Very informative. I've heard many of these facts before but you really simplified it. Good stuff!
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Thank Jeff, I appreciate that
@tylerromano9307
@tylerromano9307 2 жыл бұрын
are there any mickey mantle with dark blue ?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
The background has subtle shade differences. Not dark blue though
@cliffordmilam9624
@cliffordmilam9624 3 жыл бұрын
I believe I have an authentic T206 honus Wagner card... how do I tell if it is authentic? I believe with all my being that it is.
@stevesmith9886
@stevesmith9886 3 жыл бұрын
I have a type one, would u look at it and let me know if its worth sending off to be authenticated. It passes all your type one test plus feels to be the same material when i have compared it to other 52 cards. Doesnt glow with a blacklight and a flashlight wont shine threw it all ways i seen to spot a fake card online.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
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@zengarden8592
@zengarden8592 3 жыл бұрын
I checked mine out and it looks like its a type 2, but I was also told there is another way to tell if its fake, by using a flash light. shining it on the back and if you see the stat print, then its either a reprint or a fake. Is that true? This can be very confusing.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
Idk I do know some fake cards will allow More light thru them when held up to a flashlight
@charlest7311
@charlest7311 2 жыл бұрын
Overall it is a good video and a lot of time was put into it. However, there are two different backs as well. The one you call real is a type 2 back. The one you call fake is a type 1 back. Many fakes reverse the backs meaning a type 1 card has a type 2 back and vice versa.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct. That is why the title says ignore part on the backs
@charlest7311
@charlest7311 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 description on my phone cut off after the word comments.
@imM1911
@imM1911 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many people had a picture of a type 1, came in contact with a type 2, try to authenticate it, and says it’s fake because they looked different. And then he goes on KZfaq and sees this video. I’d throw up
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 Жыл бұрын
I’ll bet most people don’t even know there is 2 different versions
@deangearhartyeahicollectit2439
@deangearhartyeahicollectit2439 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! You have opened my eyes to things I was not aware of besides the dark marks on the bat. Someday I plan to buy this card and this video will be a major help thank-you
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dean
@jasonduey5678
@jasonduey5678 3 жыл бұрын
I'm about to buy a type 2 wish I could send you the pics just to know for sure
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
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@jasonduey5678
@jasonduey5678 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 pics sent :) colors don't match on back the more I look @ it compared to the ones you showed
@poormansstack
@poormansstack 5 жыл бұрын
Great Info! I just hope that sometime in my life I will have to put this information to use!
@namesfain
@namesfain 8 ай бұрын
That bottom missing pixel looks same as top right not sharp either.
@TRNRAnt
@TRNRAnt 5 жыл бұрын
Tremendous video! Incredible! So many little nuances to notice.
@JIMMBAY1
@JIMMBAY1 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video & content. Grrreat training, educational video. I thank thee, Dave for sharing all...
@garysmith5268
@garysmith5268 5 жыл бұрын
The grading services have no way to reliably scan the cardboard paper and inks to ensure proper 1952 dating?....before slabbing? Pretty much any lab could do that. PSA and SGC don’t utilize this tech?
@WeskerGriff
@WeskerGriff 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible video Dave! Learned a lot! Thank you!
@sharpedgepictures
@sharpedgepictures Жыл бұрын
So according to this i have an authetic type 2. How does one sell such a thing...?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 Жыл бұрын
…….huh?
@jamieclendenin6804
@jamieclendenin6804 Жыл бұрын
Mine is type 1
@Eliteco3
@Eliteco3 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video thank you
@Schmurph3607
@Schmurph3607 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video , I was just looking at a listing on EBay for an extremely off centered and beat up RC but the back is way off, the arrows go right to left and the S's line up with the H ..Thank you for saving me alot of cash
@petermikita7891
@petermikita7891 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Dave. Love low tech. I grew up on it! Lol. Thank you!
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, thanks!
@bobmilin
@bobmilin 3 жыл бұрын
The so called counterfeits or fakes are easily identified not by the printing but just the way the card is by the card stock. I can take a 52 Topps and tell its authentic by just looking at the cardboard and even smelling it. A 70 year old card should also have a certain smell to the card board that can't be duplicated by a new printed card. Also I have never seen any counterfeit that could ever fool anybody that has any knowledge about vintage baseball cards. In other words if you buy a counterfeit Mantle and pay hundreds or thousands for it you only have your self to blame for being a complete idiot.
@shamrockrmf1522
@shamrockrmf1522 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Dave! Such valuable information for our community!
@psychdonbaseballcards5137
@psychdonbaseballcards5137 5 жыл бұрын
Great educational video Dave. Thanks for putting this together.
@cscottriffle
@cscottriffle 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. Hopefully I can put it to work someday!
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@MrFisherbike
@MrFisherbike 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative video brother. Thanks for taking the time to show us the differences.
@nufcedcards
@nufcedcards 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, Dave. Thanks for sharing this info. It is disconcerting that such an easy to identify fake could end up slabbed by a major TPG...
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
I think it’s very very rare Andrew. In fact I’d wager that 99.9 % of fake cards in slabs..... ARE IN FAKE SLABS!!!!! There is some very very scary stuff that’s been coming out of Mexico for years. High end stuff in fake PSA slabs.
@nufcedcards
@nufcedcards 5 жыл бұрын
A good reminder for us all to carefully inspect anything we consider buying, thoroughly research the cards and become as knowledgeable as possible, and share info like this...
@MaxPowerBaseball
@MaxPowerBaseball 5 жыл бұрын
very thorough and informative. dont know that i'll ever own one, but now will know how to spot the fakes. thanks!
@Eliteco3
@Eliteco3 5 жыл бұрын
incredible video and knowledge
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Nolan
@123precision8
@123precision8 5 жыл бұрын
Very thorough and informative. Great explanation. Interesting even though I'll never be able to afford one.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t have on either!
@MarkfromKy
@MarkfromKy 5 жыл бұрын
Man awesome video great information thanks for posting this
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Mark
@ericapp17
@ericapp17 2 жыл бұрын
Even though I'll never own a "real" version, I do thank you for the very thorough video. I never knew there were two different types. I was looking at my 1983 reprint of this card as I was watching this and found it possesses some of the differing traits from both types, as well as none of the traits. Great job with this video!
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments Happy collecting
@GoodfellasNYC
@GoodfellasNYC 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 Good evening, this video is extremely informative. I have a type 2 ungraded that was given to me 30 years ago. What about a light test on the type 2. Does that apply or work? Just asking because even though my card is exactly like your video, does it mean it's authentic? Thanks
@robscards6313
@robscards6313 5 жыл бұрын
vert educational...great job and thanks for informing us Dave!
@Danester247
@Danester247 5 жыл бұрын
Good video, but your diagnostics on the #311 back I think are incorrect. I have a PSA-1 of this card and I have viewed images of others online.. I have a Type-1 and all checks with your identifiers. On the back my stitching goes from left to right and so do almost all others I see in images online. Same goes for letters on the right side. My "S" aligning more with "H" in "Right" as most other images on line. Please, check this.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
You are correct. That’s why title says ignore the back commentary. I tried to differentiate type 1 and 2 backs and made it too confusing
@dennispaulsen2408
@dennispaulsen2408 5 жыл бұрын
Dave, thank you for the clarification.
@brinks554
@brinks554 5 жыл бұрын
Great video Dave. Watched this a few times and did a Ebay search. Some of the type 2 Mantles in PSA slabs have creases conveniently on the white pixel. I am curious to know if those were fake PSA slabs in your video. You would think PSA would be well aware of the tell tale signs for the 1952 Mantle.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
There are fake PSA slab/ flips out there And I have no idea how to spot them. Yes, people will age and crease a fake 52 so you can tell if the pixel is missing
@patrickbaer3742
@patrickbaer3742 3 жыл бұрын
What is the price difference in price between type 1 type two? Tnx patrick
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
No difference!
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
There are certainly differences in prices between 1952 mantles, however if you have a type 1 and a type 2 with same grade and condition the prices will be the same. Period. A quick search of the topic confirms that statement .
@robertweiss7802
@robertweiss7802 9 ай бұрын
If you could please help me out I inherited an entire complete set of this 1952 cards and I have this Mickey Mantle card with like I think there's like a thousand other cards too the set is complete and the binder that it's in is a 1952 Topps binder. What should I do or who should I contact
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 9 ай бұрын
Sure, send me some pics to lightningshack25@gmail.com
@sycardbreaks2745
@sycardbreaks2745 4 жыл бұрын
Im confused? So their were 2 type of this card when it was produced? Type 1 and type 2? So you can have 2 types of authentic mantles? Or does the type 2 mean it's a fake card period?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
No there are 2 styles of 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle .... Type 1 and Type 2. The videos intent was to show the distinguishing features of each. They are very similar except the differences I showed No difference in value between the 2 types
@sycardbreaks2745
@sycardbreaks2745 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 they are both authentic cards then... correct...
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
Syed Ahmed ... yep
@dominicperri6262
@dominicperri6262 5 жыл бұрын
Great Job again Dave. I was watching that ESPN shorts of the conterfit autos in the late 90s. Insane.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I bought a lot of fb autos in 90s- I’m sure 80% bad. Even today autos are easily faked. I’d even worry about a slabbed one if it was expensive
@gilbertgamboaheacock3578
@gilbertgamboaheacock3578 3 жыл бұрын
i have a type 1 card woth me bought it from an elderly man he said it was in fathers old desk and card is like mint
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
Gilbert that’s fantastic!!
@gilbertgamboaheacock3578
@gilbertgamboaheacock3578 3 жыл бұрын
Mr Bluejacket66 on your video you say disregard comments on fake backs. what do you mean by this thank you sir
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
@@gilbertgamboaheacock3578 it means there are 2 different back types. One back for a type 1 and other for type 2. None of the backs I describes are fakes, just different back should match with the front type ) 1 or2 It was a confusing, poor explanation
@gilbertgamboaheacock3578
@gilbertgamboaheacock3578 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 Mr Bluejacket66 could i maybe email you some photos of the card i have im sure you could tell me if fake or real. im not really knowledgeable on spotting counterfeits if you could help. thank you Mr Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 3 жыл бұрын
@@gilbertgamboaheacock3578 lightningshack25@gmail.com
@SilverJackify
@SilverJackify 5 жыл бұрын
Dave, great video! Why is it that you only covered the back of a type 2? I think people will be confused by watching your video on a type 1 since the back is very different versus what you showed (type 2)
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
ThAts why I edited to ignore my portion on the back... it didn’t come off right and ended up being confusing . I shouldn’t have mention backs as they can be very difficult
@SilverJackify
@SilverJackify 5 жыл бұрын
Bluejacket 66 Ok got it. Sorry, must have missed that. Just also wanted to make sure you agreed that was a type 2 back.
@ZombieCollector69
@ZombieCollector69 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge,Dave!!
@forzendikar9908
@forzendikar9908 4 жыл бұрын
A must watch video for anyone interested in buying a 52 Topps Mantle. Great video, I had no idea there were 2 types let alone all of the things to look for. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@lindalantz5382
@lindalantz5382 Жыл бұрын
so my fits type one but no black border.. must be a fake, right?
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 Жыл бұрын
Must be……
@lindalantz5382
@lindalantz5382 Жыл бұрын
@@Bluejacket66 I have an certificate of authenticity from the place I bought it but I guess that doesn't mean anything. You sure it is fake without that border?
@johnreed1779
@johnreed1779 4 жыл бұрын
Great and very informative video. Best that I've seen yet.
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks John
@mikekeeler6362
@mikekeeler6362 11 ай бұрын
The only way I get a 52 mantle is buying the 1952 Topps reprint set that's the only Mantle card I have for the 1952 I've got 1966 67 68 69
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 11 ай бұрын
Lots of people fill the tough cards with reprints
@quadoscorner7134
@quadoscorner7134 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video my friend, wow, I had no clue. Thank you very much, that cards is every collectors dream, well done. 👍👍
@Bluejacket66
@Bluejacket66 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback!
@BecauseImCarlos
@BecauseImCarlos 5 жыл бұрын
Certainly not in the market for one, but a great reference. Thanks for taking the time to put it together, well done!
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