Soyeon is the center of gidle heeseung is also the center of enhypen yet they aren't always in the center

But Minji didn't say she's the best she said she's confident, and as the leader, she has to

I ignored the other wonyoung controversies because I thought people were just overreacting but her asking Liz to switch spots was just so arrogant. It’s getting to hard to defend IVE…

Wth! Minji doesn't meant being overconfident. It's good to be confident, Actually being confident as an idol is good. Ya'll need to understand that.

The question was actually, "the skills you think you're confident about." Not what other think you are great (skills) in." So if minji thinks that she is confident in all then what's wrong? She is not saying that she's great in everything. She's just sure and confident about her skills.

Wonyoung's fans need to accept that she can do wrong and not only blame starship entertainment.... it was hard for me to believe her controversies and alleged attitude too... but its so evident now...

To say truth it feels like wonyoung is determined to get center spotlight all the time. Other members are also part of the group and they should also be given same center position.

Minji one is stupid Question was which skill is in you are most confident And she answered what she thinks 🙄

The case about Minji, what if a male kpop idol did that, they will even praise him for being confident.

I feel so bad for Minji, she doesn't deserve those negative comments from people who doesn't know how to read or see the whole picture, but base on other people's comments who also can't seem to read.

wonyoung thinks the world ends if she doesn't stand in center position for 1 second 😭

minji situation is really ridiculous. whats wrong with confident in all aspect in perfomance anyway?

And whenever someone puts their honest opinion about Wonyong , her fans have literally 2 things too say to defend her - (i) Company's fault . She is a victim too. (ii) You are only jealous of her because she is young , beautiful and successful . 😮‍💨🙂

When the idol is not confident enough « you need to be confident you are an idol!!😤 » When the idol is confident « sToP bEiNg arRoGaNt » Please stop the double standard !!

I'm sorry but the fixed position doesn't mean that she can always be at the center twice, snsd and red velvet have center but no one do what she's doing

I don’t even understand how Minji was over confident. It was her choice to answer the multiple question with 4 answers. It’s not even a test other people who are human sometimes do that

I didn’t even know about the Liz situation Wonyoung is defo out of order for doing that there was other members who weren’t in the right position you can stand on the side just once. She even was racing yujin at an award show so she could be the one to grab the trophy why can’t she just let Yujin who was already in the front and is the leader just pick it up, if it was the other way Yujin wouldn’t rush to get the trophy cause she’s not a selfish person who doesn’t care about embarrassing her own teammates. This marks 3 members Wonyoung has embarrassed now Gaeul, Yujin and Liz

I guess wonyoung is too obsessed to herself

First of all What's wrong in being confident and Minji even changed her question to "what skills do you need to improve on?" This was really dumb of those netizens.

Nobody can't defend wonyoung now,the evidence is right infront of yall faces 💀

Wtf was that Minji one? Really netizens are desperately looking for opportunity to bash the idols unnecessaryily. Specially trending idols.

Minji is just confident and she has to be she is the leader

To be honest, K-pop has proven time and time again that media play can be used in favor of the idols to attract popularity before comebacks. Also, numerous controversies have also been unearthed as being staged to draw more attention to the accused idols. In the case of Minji, she knows she has weaknesses and she is working on them, she is humble and I congratulate her for that. Leeseo and Wonyoung, well ,nothing can be said about the situation other than it has done its job, it already has people talking about them, hence also drawing attention the IVE overall. Most likely Starship wants to milk these girls for what they are worth in the most minimal amount of time possible, hence scandals 'manifest' for them left right and center. Maybe there are attitude problems, who knows, but from what I know, the company is using netizens' tendency of pointing out mistakes rapidly to fuel the reputation of IVE higher, which is sick but it is working. That is my view

I am starting to get wary of Wonyoung, I used to defend her because she reminded me of Jennie and Sulli with the baseless accusations against their character but now I am starting to believe that Wonyoung has some attitude problems. I mean it is obvious she has a center obsession, many centers don't follow the line up when it comes to unofficial photos. I will use Kara as an example, Hara was the visual and one of the most popular members but it was Gyuri who was the center for the group and Gyuri didn't follow the center position when it came to unofficial photos. The same can be said for G-idle, Soyeon is the center and she doesn't follow the rules all the time as well. Wonyoung entered the industry young and was loved and given a lot of attention all throughout her teen years so I think she has gain a bit of an ego. She needs to learn to be humbled or she will face some repercussions quite soon since people are getting tired of her.

When u wanna bring someone down but can't find any excuse to do so u just make shat up: Minji's controversy

Kids keep defending wonyoung , if you are a solo stan just say it atp , confident idols are so attractive but not when it comes to pushing their members aside and competing with them

???? The new jeans one was questionable. Like...isn't confidence a good thing?

ppl are so obsessed with hating on pretty girls it's INSANE

The Minji story is one of the most hilarious complaints I’ve ever heard of

I like Wonyoung but it's harder to defend her these days, it was not just baseless accusations now because she keeps on repeating her actions, it's hard to not unnoticed it. I wonder if she's even aware of all of these? Because she said it herself, she doesn't care about the opinions of others.

Poor Liz and Minji

Those peps hating on minji are those finding stupidest reason to hate on her cause they don't have any other If it was a male idol or a more popular one they would say we stan a confident king or queen

“If you’re getting tons of hate and many people hate you for many reasons , you should know not everyone is dishonest and you’re in the wrong” - as a wise person said

Aren’t dive tired protecting their faves yet?!? Like Ive and starship don’t have to care soo much about their actions cause dive will support them no matter what. Reminds me of blinks tbh

And there we have sm center not taking their job too seriously left behind everyone their members needs to tell them they should stand in the center Irene Jaemin 😂

Korean care about wonyoung too much if they don't like her why give her so much attention Her visual is the reason If we talk about her vocal It's average

What wonyoung did was so sad, I had never seen Yoona did this to her members, wonyoung is nice but I can see why she invites hates in her life

So do they want idols to be confident or not???

The question is about what skills they are confident with. Minji chose all 4 because she's confident about them and I don't see anything wrong with that. She didn't say that she's the greatest in all those skills mentioned.

I genuinely so sick of Wonyoung's bad attidue controversies Like every video there is a new one and it needs to be stopped. Im no fan or anti of her but if there's smoke then there is also a fire.

The one with Minji made me laugh 😂 LEAVE MY GIRL ALONE!!!!

See I'm not a Newjeans stan but since their debut everytime I saw their debut Minji just kept catching my eyes. Like my eyes just keep drifting towards her no matter what. I don't listen to them a lot or follow them a lot but based on what I saw from their music show & award stages I see no reason why Minji shouldn't be confident in all of her skills. That girl really stands out with her presence. Of course Hanni has very catchy vocals which really draws you in but when it comes to being a complete performer with "That" aura Minji really has it all in her.

Woah dives are second blinks who's trying soo much to cover their idols fault and give all blames to companies Pls tell me if I'm wrong....

I think Wonyoung being obsessed with center position is so evident. I don't know why so many fans are defensing for her. I'm also dive and I do really love all the ive members but except Wonyoung. I loved Wonyoung in the past but as I keep on watching her, I found her too arrogant and proud of herself. We all know the fact that Wonyoung is a good center since Produce 48 and she really is doing her job well. She needs to stop obsessing with center positoin. Just my opinion. Some fans should stop defending her as it is so obvious and she'll still be obessed with center position bcos of those who are defending Wonyoung more than enough. Hope she could fix her mind in the future. Cuz if she's still arrogant like this, she would lose lots of her fan. (For e.g, me) I was Wonyoung's big fan but not now cuz of her behaviour and disrespect towards her seniors too.

That person who got Minji dragged is so weird coz she didn't say she's confident in all those skills

I love how 95% of the comments section is defending Minji and 5% is dissing wy and 0% defending wy that clip of her switching was liz is unnecessary

I would love if for once Wonyoung isn't in the center of every single picture, I LOVE her and Ive but having the center position doesn't mean to be in the centre in every picture , ok yeah sure be in the centre often but not all the time it's literally called a group, their is alot of idols who r the center of the group but we don't see them rushing to stand in the middle of the line up, also maybe the company makes her stad in the centre every time so we don't really know. For Minji ppl didn't her so wrong like she was trying to say that she wants to improve her talent and yall made her look bad, and even if she is saying she is good at everything what's the problem with that maybe she thinks she is much batter than she was in the past and I don't think their is such thing as overly confident. For the lip sync thing I blame the company cuz a kpop idol trains for years not only to sit on a stage and lip sync, it would've been understandable if they where dancing but they were NOT, and it's also disrespectful for the fans cuz they save money just to get a seat at their idol's show and they end up watching then lip sync and act pretty.

It's always Ive I think they were the ones chan was talking about

IVE ain’t even supposed to have a center. They’re literally 6, an even number.

Ok why is everyone hating on minji for just choosing all of the 4 options like is that really a big problem against everything thats happening rn?? And the fact that she only wanted to improve on all of those too and how old are these people 20/30 like bffr grow up 😭💀

Istg wonyoung needs to be humbled. She doesn’t even bow to her seniors it’s ridiculous 💀

Minji didn't say she was the best at all that and it's explained in the video. Plus, even if she said she's the strongest, I think it meant in what category U r the strongest for youreslf, not the strongest in the group. Someone can be around in the same level at all categories

Girl, wonyoung is so problematic! We could have defended her if their were few evidences but the evidences keep on coming one after another, its useless to defend her now lol

Let's be real minji one is totally ridiculous cause she picked those as the ones she needs more practice with Second the one with wonyoung From my perspective she is good, beautiful and a talented girl.. But the whole thing of fans protecting her has gone too far.. The thing with the positions is kind of weird I think they have fixed position but nothing would go wrong if wonyoung had left Liz to stand in her position and second we don't really know her side of the story so we shouldn't judge her that hArD. And about the lyp syncing yes this has gone too far there are a lot more ldos who can sing live excuses(something that the were able to do to prevent their idol getting hate is to put another group to do a cover a group that is confident in singing live also the fact that you guys (the ones who supported them about the theme with lyp sync) saying as excuses that they didn't have time to prepare is completely baseless cause there are groups such as treasure who on mama I think sang live and dance without having time to prepare so stop trying to find excuses...

Yeah ok starship told wonyoung and Leeseo to lip sync but they did not tell them that give no effort into showing that ur lip sync💀💀

Wonyoung needs to humble herself

A lot of the new kpop artists look disrespectful to me, they don't behave as respectfully to senior artists at award shows.

What 😟 Netizens are so horrible like what !!!! Minji is like one of the best dancer in new jeans and her vocal is like so beautiful and she’s a visual goddess. They can’t even read like even if she did feel confident that’s a good thing that she’s known she’s getting better.lately the more Minji get more popular the more she’s getting hate. Like the example when they did a cover of tell me Minji was getting hate for looking a bit fat for her shoulder. I really pray and hope that they don’t ruined minji😭. I love her so much. She need to stay strong

Poor minji:(#loveyouMinji

That was so fuking dumb of netizens to do that to Minji when she was just answering what she needs to improve on.

But other membres in ive where not in their right spot yet they didn’t go out of their way to claim it its just a spot she didn’t need to do that even in other groups it happens that the center don’t stand in the center but that doesn’t mean she/he isn’t the center anymore, doing that in front of everyone is out of the spot and too much

Wonyoung can’t even defend her anymore

I always say and will say again like them for their vocal and visuals but don't think they are angels because we don't know any of them personally

i cant stop laughing, she wrote she needs to improve on everything and people are like OH SO YOU THINK YOU CAN DO EVERYTHING!?

SOME of the 4th gen idols don't seem to care or at least be aware of older gen idols'attitudes and work ethics..all they seem to care about is just how to maintain their popularity.. how to gain more followers on social media😔😔😔

how they gonna hate because shes confident? like bruh

“Go idolize your idle life then criticize me” Huh Yunjin said. These haters need to listen to Huh Yujin song. Just leave them alone. The media just need to stop post the controversy. They just spread the fire on the oil field.

I think what Minji said was taken out of context. If you really think about what she said, she's right. It is always good to be confident, especially with the type of industry she's in

Imagine when I saw wonyoung running ahead yujin to grab the trophy 🏆 💁🏽‍♀️🤣

Honestly the Liz and Wonyoung situation would definitely be awkward like I don’t hate Wonyoung but if the group was standing she should’ve gone with the flow

Every one tends to forget how younge these girls are. We can’t know for certain and can’t keep spreading hate

So their company think leeseo and wonyoung are not capable to sing live 💀- like how fans are still defending them liz and rei are only stable in their group 😭-

People do realise saying "company is forcing them to do this it that" is absolutely absurd. Like these idols are humans and they have a conscience, they shouldn't mindlessly follow what the companies tell them to do . If something is really wrong they should act against it and not just behave like a servant to the company just because they're being paid.

Idk if anyone else would've taken it this way, but even if Minji answered the question "which skills are you best at?" and she circled all of them... i would have taken it as sarcasm. when i first heard the controversy i laughed bc it just sounds like a very Minji thing to do

In kpop world where everything can bring you down, you do need to be confident. This is the perfect example!, anti-fans jump straight and call Minji "arrogant" when they didn't even acknowledge what she wrote, they just want to make an issue and say something negative...so that calling Minji arrogant will lessen her confidence and these anti-fans think they won or something...

When I started stanning IVE I fell in love with Wonyoung, I didn't really listen to izone cause I was a new kpop fan so when I first saw her I thought she was like this perfect image and I thought nonsense of the hate she got but now these days I mean I have been looking at comments and all people are saying is it's hard to defend her and I agree because every time anywhere there's a camera she has to look perfect and be the center and she isn't a soloist she is in a group and everybody has their place and are a center in their own category but I say that Wonyoung is taking that away from the other members. (edit: also blaming starship for not have other members to show off their skills)

For those who hate minji for being confident, are you want to destroy her confidence? So evil

Amazing topics

Shouldn’t they be happy when they see idols being confident in themselves? Like what’s wrong with kpop fans these days?

I don't understand why they always have to stand in a particular lineup?

Liz must be really uncomfortable and embarrassed, can't Gaeul and Liz stand in the center for once .

Wtf is wrong with being confident

I just don't like when fans cant except their fav idols mistakes or real personalities and so they make excuses for them. If an idol has done something truly wrong u should hold them accountable for their actions, not bash, hate or disrespect them. In the case of Ive and New Jeans I don't think they're terrible people at all, they r literally teenagers trying to accomplish their dreams in one of the harshest industries in Korea. The K-media doesn't help either because they show bits and pieces of the real picture and portray them as selfish, attention seeing and arrogant when in reality if u watch there content in depth you'll see that they r incredibly sweet girls

i like how stans always like the blame everything on the company and act like the artist don't got any say

At this rate aespa are humble legends these 4 gen idols give me reason to leave kpop and go back to pop culture at least Britney spears is perfoemer even she was accused of lipsync

First! i guess love this channel sooo much.💙

Everyone having issues with how Minji perceives her self lmao how about YOU go thre and choose it your self

I think going outside and touching some grass is much needed in the kpop community.

at this point of life i am already soo done with wonyoung

WY's hard core fan "what are you talking about, spreading unnecessary hate. WY is the CENTER of I've" Yeahhhh sure, she is the center who is most self centered. Ive seen other gg who when they are at "informal" standing formation, do not matter who stand in the middle. I would understand if its for a formal photoshoot for album, photoshoot at tv broadcast, etc...but standing formation at the airport she quickly speed up her walk, even walked past her team mates in their faces (ignoring their presence) OMG, too childish and not to mention..thats rude. Ive watched that clip, the sad look on Gaeul's face. Please, stop defending bad attitude like this.

Minji didn't said she's literally the best she just said likes these factors about her and the fact that most of you antis ignored her writing on top the question just explains how hypocrite you guys are. She wouldn't have been in a hybe group if she wasn't a all rounder. And as a leader and also in a 4th gen group it's important to be a all rounder and confident in this industry. That's it, it's not that hard to understand.

the cost of being an idol :/ look, im not a wonyoung fan, i didnt really like her myself at first, but this is getting too much. she may seem a little overconfident and else but that doesn’t give anyone the right to hate and bring controversies about her up every week. we’ve seen idols be pushed to the brink of the edge, even suicide because of this constant hate, stop bringing her up for clout, will you. idols are also humans, we’ve all done some nasty shit, they can make mistakes too.

Wtf that hater train riding liz name to hate wonyoung... i even watch wonyoung accused to push liz when the truth is that move is part of choreography... poor wonyoung...

The other videos abt wony and the center problem were evil editing as the manger was telling them what to do, but the one with liz is just pushing it.

Y’all need to stop blaming only the companies and acting like it’s not the idols fault too like bffr

Wonyoung's fans are so blind, I feel second hand embarrassment ISTG. Edit: Also, Wan Yong and Yonyeong in the timestamps? HELP 💀

There's nothing wrong in being confident cause it doesn't hurt anyone but makes you stronger. If sky ever fall, i will hold it up. I know It sound totally ridiculous but I say this sometimes, these things make me keep going.

Everytime I watched ive I feel disturbed.Like the most talented are Liz and gaeul for me where I can't even see them much that's sooo rude. and people raising voice to company doesn't make sense,okay I understand she is center even it's not given any statement from starship that she is center but that's tooooooo much lol I think there is a reason why people hate her because beside there is yujin too where she is also center but she is not that too much that's y she got no hate.

These girls are so pretty!😊

I need her to be humbled