NHL Stars Who FORCED Rule Changes

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@goalhorncrazy9779 Жыл бұрын

“Don’t lick people. The Marchand rule”

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

😭😭😭 The fact that had to even become a rule is hilarious

@edschramm6757 Жыл бұрын

no licking (marchand), no biting (Lemieux), no spitting (Miller)

@crankybastid2197 Жыл бұрын

Hey, he was low in electrolytes.

@grahamdamberger7130 Жыл бұрын

@@edschramm6757 You could call the spitting the Garnet Hathaway rule as well.

@jbj7599 Жыл бұрын

No forward passes?! Never heard that rule before, holy crap that's ridiculous!

@pretzelhunt Жыл бұрын

football was that way before for like 15 years(?) after hockey too.

@JohnDaubSuperfan369 Жыл бұрын

@@pretzelhunt No, American football might have been like that but actual football never had that rule. It originates from rugby, why it makes sense Americans would retain it for "football" since that's just a dumbed down version of rugby.

@pretzelhunt Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDaubSuperfan369 Nah tl;dr, actual footballs a smartened-up rugby, but if you read how Knute Rockne changed the sport, you'll know of the history of which I speak. thanks, lil guy!

@ollieminecraft Жыл бұрын

The reason Brodeur was an excellent puck handler is because he played goalie and forward when he was young. He chose to be a goalie, and became one of the NHL's greatest players.

@1bert719 Жыл бұрын

The trapezoid was always a bad idea. It actively punishes players for being good at the game. It also cuts down on poor goalies making bone headed passes and actually cuts scoring down. 🤔

@insertjokehere1485 Жыл бұрын

The reason for it is it’s hard to generate offence off a dumping in a puck with no trapzoid. You dump in for one of two reasons you are changing lines or you are trying to get past defenders at the blue line and set up in the offensive zone. It would definitely cut down scoring not being able to set up in the other teams end cause a goalie was able to pass to a forward after you dumped it. Much easier to hold a lead

@D-Fens_1632 7 ай бұрын

I'll listen to and consider pretty much any argument in favor of the trapezoid but I refuse to entertain the idea that everyone from that point forward should have to change because one guy was "too good" at handling the puck. My answer to that one is "then get better." If you put that aside I wouldn't care either way if it's there or not.

@ProtoLolZz Жыл бұрын

Pitkänen was an serious loss for the canes and the sport of hockey, such an agile, smart 2-way defender even at 6´`3.

@LordBitememan Жыл бұрын

Brodeur was so good/goalies had an unfair advantage stick handling and puck carrying because they were exempt from physical contact. God's honest truth in a heartbeat I'd rescind all restrictions on where goalies can play the puck in exchange for letting players contact them when they're outside the crease.

@rinzzler366 Жыл бұрын

meet you half way, only if they're above the goal line outside the crease, behind the net should be free for them. And its dangerous to contact them behind the net regardless. Cuz boards and they're somewhat easy to knock over.

@LordBitememan Жыл бұрын

@@rinzzler366 that's fair enough and I think that was basically the mindset the league was in when they introduced the trapezoid. I also don't think this was all 100% about Brodeur and that other incidents had occurred within semi-recent memory for the league that caused them to really rethink the issue of just how badly a goalie could abuse their no-touch status on the ice. Patrick Roy skating the puck to center ice stands out here. Around the net, yeah, you're a goalie. Out past a certain point, though, you're not being a goalie anymore you're being a skater and you're abusing rules that were designed to protect you around the net.

@funniestpigeon6214 Жыл бұрын

goalie equipment is not made to take a body check

@plazasta Жыл бұрын

another classic story about a player/team forcing a rule change was how the Canadiens in the 50's were so dominant in power plays that the NHL brought in the rule that said that if a player scores during a power play, the penalty ends the singular moment that apparently triggered the rule change was Jean Béliveau scoring a hat trick in 44 seconds during a power play

@RichardTavilla 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing that. I love learning things I didn’t know about the sport I love

@justinganz1173 Жыл бұрын

One player that was not mentioned was Rob Scuderi in the 2012 Cup Finals in game 6 he was injured due to a icing

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Oh wow! That’s a great yet very unfortunate example!

@justinganz1173 Жыл бұрын

@@idontgivetkachuk yeah but I feel like if it was not for that the Kings wouldn’t have won the Cup that year

@edschramm6757 Жыл бұрын

the crazy bastard came back during that game. though, i don't know that you'd be ALLOWED to come back from that kind of hit these days, with the concussion protocols in place.

@robloxwithacetheavenger4908 2 ай бұрын

That wasn't an icing. That was a board by Steve Bernier. Bernier was ejected, which killed the Devils' momentum

@jackieeeeee_ Жыл бұрын

Being given a minor penalty for being good is crazy Looks like you're getting a yt strike for too much great content then

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Thanks babe 😌❤️

@jolonghthong5377 Жыл бұрын

which one are you referring to

@mason.11 Жыл бұрын

@@jolonghthong5377Trapezoid

@crankybastid2197 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. You forgot the 1956 rule change of the minor penalty ending when the opposing team scores. That was changed by the Montreal Canadiens ability to rout a team that got a penalty, and boy did they ever. "Montreal Canadiens general manager Frank Selke insisted the NHL rule change adopted on June 6, 1956 was to punish his team, whose only crime, he said, was having too much firepower for its opponents."

@hillbillydeluxe27 Жыл бұрын

Also the Edmonton oilers rule: immediate substitutions on coincidental penalties. When Edmonton was 4 on 4 against ANY team it was an advantage for Edmonton. With their fast skating and constant passing, they outmaneuvered their opponents. Having Gretzky probably helped, too…lol.

@JaYPeeDee1025 Жыл бұрын

The funny part about the trapazoid they put it in because of Marty and now it probably hurts the Devils biggest rivals the most because Shesterkin from the Rangers would probably be just like Marty he has about the same puck handling skills

@Northern_Grace Жыл бұрын

The Wayne Gretzky/Oilers Rule ---> Offsetting Penalties staying at 5 on 5 often times instead of 4 on 4, as well as (I believe, don't quote me) the powerplay ending on a goal.

@RichardTavilla 6 ай бұрын

Yup

@ryanmudd839 Жыл бұрын

Don't forget the 2019 Sharks being bailed out by a ridiculous offside call on Gabe Landeskog in round 2 games 7

@MrGUnit27 Жыл бұрын

Here's a video idea: The biggest NHL trades where both teams benefitted. The Jack Eichel trade is starting to look like a prime example right now. Keep up the good work!

@TehJew22 Жыл бұрын

Jack is now on the verge of winning a Stanley Cup championship 🏆 and the Sabres can rebuild into a contender.

@demoral3030 Жыл бұрын

Shame on them for limiting goalies. Brodeur the greatest of all time.

@thegame346 Жыл бұрын

The Brodeur rule should be stricken from the NHL rulebooks. Its a rule implemented literally to limit the talent of a player. Its not easy to play the puck as a goaltender. You are far more likely to fuck it up and cause a goal against your team than you are to make a great defensive play. Marty had an individual talent that was taken away by a rule change. Professional sports should not be in the business of limiting a players individual skill unless that skill would make play unsafe for other players.

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Sadly the league has made several weird rules due to a players talent being to good.. They even tried limiting the Oilers success! Let the players have fun!

@kallemetsahalme5701 Жыл бұрын

there are plenty of those. you can even say carrying the puck in hand wouldnt be unsafe to anyone yet its not allowed. half of the rules are to just keep the game traditions and soul. thankfully it seems that dribbling with the puck is really hard so probably there wont be similar problems as with floorball where people just flail the stick all over. zegras could perhaps be another player that warrants new limits to prevent others from getting bright ideas

@amhelm86 Жыл бұрын

I'm definitely glad they got rid of touch-icing. I got knocked out as a kid playing hockey due to touch-icing. I was racing for the puck and just before getting to the boards, my opponent side-steps and stuck out their stick tripping me. I went full force, face first into the boards. Thankfully I had a cage on and didn't suffer any facial injuries. I was knocked out though. I hit the boards so hard that when I bounced off, my head was the furthest part from the boards. Needless to say, neither of us finished the game. No-touch icing is way safer and I'm glad it is now used.

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Oh wow I’m sorry that happened to ya bud.. Hope all is well now tho! Thank you sm for sharing and thanks for watching!

@D-Fens_1632 7 ай бұрын

That's brutal. And probably could have been a lot worse. That cage probably saved you a fortune in dental work, though if you played hockey you might have wound up spending a fortune anyway. At any rate, in retrospect it seems absurd that icing wasn't made safer decades earlier. It's probably a miracle people didn't die skating as hard as they could into a wall without a helmet for so many years.

@danevertt3210 Жыл бұрын

Rob Ray Rule

@BiG_JJ227 Жыл бұрын

The Leafs are going to be approaching Chicago Cubs territory of championship droughts

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

One day they will! BeLEAF 🙏

@Gl-my8fw Жыл бұрын

Not really

@donaldleider7382 Жыл бұрын

So a goalie like Martin Brodeur spends his whole career honing his puck handling skills only to have his ability to do so taken away by a stupid rule! Shouldn’t the NHL be encouraging skill development instead of handicapping it?

@Starroftheshow Жыл бұрын

The trapezoid was originally put in because of the goalies that couldn’t handle puck well as much as for brodeur. Goalies like Belfour used to go and eat puck on boards slowing game down because he knew no one could knock him off it.

@exexalien Жыл бұрын

No "Avery" rule? Good. That craven egomaniac has already gotten more than enough attention to last a lifetime.

@deftone330 Жыл бұрын

Avery was the GOAT of being an annoying POS

@robloxwithacetheavenger4908 Ай бұрын

Avery is not a star player. He is the most hated player ever

@MrJasen22 Жыл бұрын

back in the days, power plays didnt end after a goal, they change the rule to what we know today because of the dominance of the montreal canadian.

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Yup! Jean Beliveau in particular after he scored 3 goals on the same power play XD

@Northern_Grace Жыл бұрын

I thought that was part of the Wayne Gretzky and the Oilers rule? But that could just be the coincidental minor rule.

@Earpaniac 8 ай бұрын

No dog in the fight, but I still think the Pavelski play was worthy of a major. 🤷‍♂️

@coreyhill681 Жыл бұрын

I am surprised that you didn't mention Matt Duchen offside, which created offside reviews

@gamersens2363 Жыл бұрын

Another good video man 👌👌 love the content

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much buddy!!

@encycl07pedia- Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I've ever heard of a rule being made because of one player. Then again, I'm primarily a football fan and trying to understand the NHL rules beyond icing and offsides gets difficult. The goalie rule is absolutely ridiculous.

@coolclipscompletion5775 Жыл бұрын

Siiiiiuuuuuu sick post some rules I swear are meant to just nerf some aspects or players but the league doesn’t want to admit it

@retirednonohockey Жыл бұрын

W from Paul

@RetiredStarz Жыл бұрын

NONO!

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy!!

@BraddestAction Жыл бұрын

Love when you make videos🙏🏻

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

I love and appreciate the support! I love doing the research for em!

@danshobbies13 Жыл бұрын

Get rid of the trapezoid please. I like seeing goaltenders play the puck. They are a player on the ice that should be able to play the game like any other player. However if you leave the crease, you can get checked, like any other players on the ice.

@kanergoat88 Жыл бұрын

lmaoooo the end

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 Glad someone appreciated it!!

@iceKOId Жыл бұрын

Where have you been? Tckuck is killing it!

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Tkachuk is the GOAT!!

@iceKOId Жыл бұрын

@@idontgivetkachuk as are you 🫡

@gilly7038 Жыл бұрын

BRO LMAO MEIER CAUGHT A STRAY

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

😭😭😭😭😭

@robloxwithacetheavenger4908 Жыл бұрын

Actually, Brodeur scored 3 goalie goals

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Yes but only 2 in the regular szn as the stat shows. Thanks for watching!

@maxholl2154 Жыл бұрын

Technically Broduer had more than 2 goals do to the other team putting the puck in their own net. I think it was 5 that he scored but I can’t really remember. Also love the channel

@Destructor2001 Жыл бұрын

those goalie numbers bro

@edschramm6757 Жыл бұрын

so, i have a slight correction for the Paveslki sequence : he got crosschecked, not "clipped". a second player coming in incidentally basically slew footed him while he was falling, and that combined to the head first fall that caused the injury. since at the time, it wasn't reviewable, one of the refs had thought the cross check was to the head, leading to the 5 minute penalty. i probably would have made it 2 for cross checking and 2 on the second guy for tripping personally, but either way. Personally, i'm not entirely convinced that vegas would have held on regardless. I've been on teams where a teammate leaves the game with injury. You find strength you didn't know you have. And once one goal has been scored? open the floodgates. if the vegas coach had called a TO after the first goal, MAYBE that would have helped...? personally, my stance remains that vegas imploded and blamed it on the refs. not ENTIRELY without cause... but if you allow four goals in five minutes, even if it is on the penalty kill, there are other questions that need to be asked. like "when did our defense go on vacation" The Meyer one, there is an arguement that it was less a "i'm going to get the puck to my teammate" and more "ah, the puck's coming at my face, hit it!". having said that, the way the rules are phrased? i don't know that the potential lack of intent is relevant. sorta like a high stick. you may not have MEANT to hit the puck above the crossbar, but it still happened, and can stop play.

@milfordmkt Жыл бұрын

No touch icing was smart. Not only safer for players, but also speeds up the game, esp. limiting the delay of game aspect of icing abuse. Never knew pre-1930's hockey didn't allow forward passes!! Thanks for that info tidbit! Hand contact with the puck should be completely abolished. The latitude allowed has players obviously grabbing the puck with closed hands which is supposed to be illegal. Just abolish hand contact completely & no controversy or abuse would result.

@jaylenbarnes2.079 Жыл бұрын

Elite Video 🔥

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy!!

@kyyva4533 Жыл бұрын

I'm.glad to know someone else was going pavelski jst got pavelskied

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

@robloxwithacetheavenger4908 2 ай бұрын

The Trapezoid rule is ridiculous. Why make a rule just to slow down the greatest goalie of all time

@marciimeris503 Жыл бұрын

You cant convince me pavelski didnt take a dive for the penalty dude tried that shit again this year

@Kennypowers51 Жыл бұрын

Lets go knights! Winning despite dirty ass Panthers post whistle attacks.

@adampastor210 Жыл бұрын

Please do another craziest coincidence video. There was a crazy coincidence recently shared by the NHL and NBA. In this year's finals, the 2nd wild card seed Florida Panthers of the east lost to the 1st seed Vegas Golden Knights of the West in 5 games. Similarly, in the NBA the same year, the 8th seed (technically 2nd wild card) Miami Heat of the east, another south Florida sports team, made it to the NBA finals only to lose to the 1st seed Denver Nuggets of the west in 5 games. Not only that, but the Denver Nuggets went 16-4 in their run to the NBA championship, sharing the same record that last year's Colorado Avalanche, another Denver-based team who also happened to be the 1st seed in the west, had in their run to the Stanley Cup of 16-4. How crazy of a coincidence is this?

@rescuecaptainbob8564 Жыл бұрын

Ron Hextall had 3 Goals two Regular Season and 1 in the playoffs

@Tylerboyd2001 Жыл бұрын

Incorrect. He was one in the regular season

@Youknkwyouwantit556 Жыл бұрын

Pavelskis always getting bodied by somebody or something

@gosuckaduck4654 11 ай бұрын

Where u at my friend? Missing your videos

@idontgivetkachuk 11 ай бұрын

This video ive been working on is massive XD. Im editing something up. Just has taken a ton of time to research!

@goldenknight2961 Жыл бұрын

The refs basically were handing the sharks another scf appearance but still lost

@alfiesmullet1311 Жыл бұрын

Not a fan of the trapezoid rule

@0shark096 Жыл бұрын

Hextall also scored two goals, 1 in the reg season, 1 in playoffs.... first goalie to do either.

@lucasneira8493 Жыл бұрын

correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Marty have three career goals?

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

I showed the stat in the video. He only scored two! Thanks for watching!

@thegame346 Жыл бұрын

@@idontgivetkachuk The 2 goals shown was regular season goals. He has one playoff goal from 1997.

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

@@thegame346 Yes thank you. But for the sake of the video I only showed regular szn points 🙏

@bradleypittman9370 Жыл бұрын

Thk god touch icing is gone

@williamyokum9802 Жыл бұрын

Brodeur actually had 3

@iceKOId Жыл бұрын

How you feel about Florida?

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Hoping they win for Tkachuk 🙏🔥

@iceKOId Жыл бұрын

@@idontgivetkachuk me too!

@Kreege Жыл бұрын

ron hextall had 2 goals

@pretzelhunt Жыл бұрын

Wait, but didnt Eakins ^actually^ high-stick Jo-Pa? it just shouldnt have been a 5major... is that why the League apologised? The 'hand pass' now, looking back, makes it easy to call if, in open ice you _choose_ to favor your teammate over open ice, but when youre surrounded by opponents and you choose white ice instead of them, i dont think that's as bad as a "here ya go"-- you really dont want to allow any puck towards a defender, by hockey instinct.. they're conditioned to play keep-away.

@edschramm6757 Жыл бұрын

i believe it was more in line with a crosscheck to the upper chest. the impact with the ice drew blood from the side/back of his head. the refs saw head bleeding, and one thought the stick had come up higher.

@pomerlain8924 Жыл бұрын

Eakins cross-checked Pavelski in the chest, which was a two-minute minor in most cases, and caused Joe to fall back off balance. And he would have probably re-gained his footing, but then clipped Paul Stastny and fell completely over on his head, with no chance to protect himself. And the refs decided to call a major based on the outcome of everything that happened instead of just for the infraction.

@pretzelhunt Жыл бұрын

Oh the Eakins check was the Stasny faceoff flippity-do? I thought from the video he was talking about something else earlier in the match, but yeah JP did that same unsteadiness on faceoffs a few times, I saw, this series too. Fast: maybe, but unbalanced and obv dangerousish..

@adamcoe Жыл бұрын

doesn't hexall have 2 as well?

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Only counted regular season statistics 👍

@Pancak99 Жыл бұрын

Can I please have that advantage in the finale please 🙏🥺

@moody9442 Жыл бұрын

trapizod rule has to go and never should have been.

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Let the goalies have fun!!

@tgs2141 Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure Broduer had 3

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

But only 2 in the regular szn..

@jett27j30 Жыл бұрын

Hextall was better than brodeur at puck handling, and it wasnt just brodeur that made this rule. He pushed it even further in a way. Also, it should be noted that hextall has the more signifigant amount of goals; a playoff goal and a regular season goal, that is why he didnt show up on the all time list

@pomerlain8924 Жыл бұрын

Brodeur also has a playoff goal, as well a power play goal

@connorlindahl1714 Жыл бұрын

Maybe want to get a new source for information or do some more research a lot of info is wrong in this video

@jonathanbeaulieu3630 Жыл бұрын

Kurtis Foster from the wild also got destroyed by a touch icing ruling. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLindNxyp6u6cnk.html

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

Great example and an even better find! Thanks for sharing!!

@LancasterResponding Жыл бұрын

Hey if the NHL could eliminate shootouts that would be just awesome and very cool.

@JohnDaubSuperfan369 Жыл бұрын

Touch-icing was great. In the older nhl games nothing is more satisfying than letting the opposition ice the puck and delivering the nastiest divebomb driving that defender head first into the boards, the way the defender crumbles is nothing short of beautiful.

@NPIntended Жыл бұрын

Guys isn't it so amazing how the Blackhawks are going to the cup final!!!! We're gonna beat up the Panthers in 4

@misakikoko4500 Жыл бұрын

The rule changes that I want to see are: 1. Remove trapezoid 2. Icing negated when puck goes through the blue paint of the crease 3. Call a penalty on the "Michigan", for carrying the puck I would also like much stricter enforcement of the Instigator penalty.

@piss.nation Жыл бұрын

the pœ

@Trillyana Жыл бұрын

Avery doesn't get to be here because he was never a star

@hartspacevachon Жыл бұрын

Hey heres a crazy idea maybe dont give up 3 goals in under 5 minutes

@Southboundpachyderm Жыл бұрын

I've seen this video one too many times. Sorry man, gunna have to pass. Lets get some videos that aren't something an AI could script out.

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

I spent 2 weeks researching this topic tryna make it as unique as possible.. But alright

@Southboundpachyderm Жыл бұрын

@@idontgivetkachuk I'm sorry man, I'm not trying to knock you. You're one of the better creators here. Mostly I'm annoyed because there is an increase in "top 10 hockey" or "analysis" channels that are literally just attention farm scripts written by AI that get churned out to make money. Just feels like this topic in particular is really well covered and we all know what the rule changes are going to be. It's not just hockey youtube either. It's sitewide and I know the algorithm rewards content like this. It's just... Creatively destructive, if you know what mean. But I'm in no way trying to knock your hard work. I realize you put a ton of effort into your content.

@idontgivetkachuk Жыл бұрын

@@Southboundpachyderm I'm always taking ideas if you have any. Been struggling coming up with ideas I think would be worth a cool video. Thanks for the support tho!