What an interesting camera! What do you think? 📷

I owned one for a while. Traded it in because despite it's compact design, great buttons and the menu. The EVF cost £600. If just shooting primes fine. Sigma do a great series of compact quality primes. But the telephoto is large and comparatively heavy. So the weight of the telephoto lenses, lack of built-in EVF, no articulating screen and no IBIS were the key reasons for me parting with it. I went back to Olympus and haven't regretted my decision for one moment.

I love this camera just for the sheer engineering feat of getting all of that camera into such a tiny box. It reminds me of when manufacturers had fun and creative with their camera designs. If I had the cash I would definitely get one!

Emily with a SIGMA fp line camera just makes my heart happy! I have used the OG fp for about 4 years and had a small stint with the L over the spring. these are absolutely my go to cameras... hands down!

The Canon R8, Sony ZVE1, A7CII and A7CR makes me think the same. Micro Four Third needs a real compact for all of us where is the GX and GM series from Panasonic

Great review! I was always apprehensive about this camera event it peaked my interest as a true portable FF camera. The internet, mainly KZfaq influencers either dont talk about this camera or gives it low ratings for what ever reason. Glad you gave it a good and honest run through for us.

I love this camera and am pleased it’s still being appreciated. Thanks! Great review.

A cropped image doesn't give you the perspective you would have with the equivalent focal lenght lens. Example if a 50mm lens once cropped give you a 100mm ....well it doesn't give you the perspective of a 100mm lens, which is the purpose to use one in the first place. Crop is fashion at the moment but the real meaning is "reframe". I know, even Leica sell the idea with its new Q3 but it is a lie or a scam, pick your choice. I mention this because I am quite sick to see that everywhere now, but also because the rest of your video is well done and I appreciate it.

Another great video! I just bought the Sony A7Cii, so that will be my small full frame camera. Right now I just have the kit Sony zoom (28-60) and the Sigma 24mm f/3.5 DG DN Contemporary Lens, which makes for a nice compact kit. My other camera kit is the Pen F digital with the Oly 17mm and 12-40mm Pro zoom. That's all I have now. I sold everything else to downsize and so far these 2 kits are working well for me as travel kits. The Sony is not as high resolution as the Sigma, but so far I'm loving it. Glad you enjoy your Sigma camera!

Your reviews are very nice to watch. Love your reviews and it helped me allot. Thanks! :-)

Sigma 17 mm F4 is my favorite tiny full frame lens I use it on Sony ZVE1, another tiny camera. I love the build of the lens. It feels perfect.

I pair mine with the ef 28mm f2.8 is. I have the fp and use crop mode for video, and full frame for photo. i also have the adapted swivel screen from dark power labs. The ONLY issue left for me is the elctronic shutter and banding in photo mode. just requires a bit more thought. But the cdng files out of this are plain beautiful. Thank you for such a positive review. So much negativity about this camera that it ignores all the good bits.

Just a note about the crop “genuinely not losing quality”, you are effectively using a smaller sensor when cropping, and smaller sensors, by definition, don’t have the same performance (noise ratio, definition). But you also are using the center part of the lens which is the sharpest part, that counter acts the loss. I know I am nitpicking but it took me a while to understand this. And as you say, it will still give a perfectly good image, the main downside being loss of resolution. Great video it made me reconsider the sigma bodies.

Hmm, interesting indeed! Gotta love a small full frame. I like the 5 colour-filtery-thingys in one shot feature. I see myself using this camera for photos more than cine. Thanks Emily!

Love your videos , so enthusiastic about photography 🙂

I've looked at this camera a number of times and thought it would make a great landscape camera. Even with the accessory grip and EVF, it's still pretty compact and that 61MP sensor is pretty incredible.

Emily scores again. I had not heard about this wonderous little gem, so this was a great video (per usual).

I love my FpL and really enjoyed your review.. nice!!! Like you, quite surprised not to see more you tube content on this great little body.

Niiice! I have the original fp (24 megapixels) and love it for adapting vintage lenses. Both fp and fp L have an INCREDIBLE feature for correcting any color distortion from adapted glass, which can happen on a digital camera especially with old super-wide lenses and especially especially with old super-wide rangefinder lenses since rangefinders also lack mirrors and the lenses sit closer to the sensor which is what causes color casts. What you do with the fp is take a photo of an all white wall or something and then save it to the settings and then apply it to your current lens… and the fp will output corrected RAWS! No other camera does this. It totally takes away color casting from my antique Russar 20mm LTM lens. The fp also has great features for manual focusing, focus peaking and an excellent punch in zoom. And the sensor is delicious. (I’m sure the 61mp one is also great but I don’t need it!) BTW Sigma sells a tiny grip for the fp that is transformative. It doesn’t make it any bigger.

really interesting!! Great video and has made me want to go and have a hold of one of these things!!! Thank you.

Great overview of the camera! While the design/ergonomics don't look like they'll win any awards, the size of this thing makes it very interesting to me as I appreciate manufacturers putting time into making bodies compact for the sensor size, so definitely on my list this now! Also, great shots of my home town Liverpool, hope you enjoyed it :)

just got my hands on one, phenomenal

I started with Lumix LX3, graduated to a GF1, and then upgraded to a OMD-ME5, to end with GH5. Best pictures taken with the LX3 and the GF1. The OMD and I never clicked. The GH5 has never taken a single picture due to circumstances (corona, illnesses, and dad that needed caring for). The best loved camera was the GF1. Even Thomas Struth lent me his Leica S2 in order to check out my GF1 when we met at his show in Dusseldorf, artist in attendance, including high-end stereo system he brought from home.

Nice! However, the full frame Sony RX1 series, and especially the RX1R II with it's gorgeous 42MP sensor and even more gorgeous Zeiss Sonnar 35mm f2 lens, was smaller and (if you ignore the lens weight, lighter. It also has a tilt screen and EVF. Fixed lens, sure, but what a lens.

You CAN get a smaller set up, it would be the Light Lens Lab 35mm f2 collapsible lens which protrudes about a centimeter with a M Mount adapter. Only caveat is that the collapsing mechanism necessitates that you need to use 2 hands sometimes to change aperature. Also, yes the EVF is 600 quid but you can mount an LCD loupe (mine's collapsible - you're sensing a theme here...) onto a detachable 3d printed bracket for around £20. I sometime think about selling my FPL and moving on because of the rolling shutter. I can live without IBIS, the 1/15th second flash sync (you forgot to mention) and the ocassional banding issues but the rolling shutter is a killer, especialy if you use the crop modes and telephoto lenses. But then again, I can't think of another camera I would rather switch to which would be as much fun. Small tip, get the official grip, well built and gives a lot of additional, well, grip. Without adding much to the overall form factor

It’s not my only camera, but I do use it quite often for stills with Leica and Voigtlander glass. I have the EVF and use it about half the time mostly for model shots where focus is desired. If I want to point-and-shoot it, I tend to go for my Leica SL 16-35 with auto-focus or my Voigtlander 10mm and set it to f/8 and then everything is in focus. I’ve gotten some wicked results from the fp. It’s easy enough to shoot with a small M lens or a 90-280 or even a 120 tilt-shift lens. It’s a nice camera to pack away in a bag with another camera like when I don’t want to change lenses or where I’m also shooting film. Despite its limitations with the lack of a shutter, the camera is very capable with a beautiful output. Lastly, it’s diminutive size is great for not being noticed.

Nice overview! I’ve often thought the same…another example is the original A7C at roughly 500 grams, small, weather sealed and if you buy small full frame lenses you can stay around the same as MFT; that changes once you start looking at med zooms and above. Not great IBIS though. So maybe not the best choice for weight and size if birding is your thing. And if you stay with a crop; Sony APSC can pretty much meet or beat many new MFT for size and weight at the shorter end. Stabilization not quite as good however and not quite as weatherproof perhaps. I would love for MFT to produce some more small bodies…I would say OM5 size max or smaller.

The Sigma FP L doesn't have electronic image stabilization in Stills mode but the regular FP can use EIS in both cine/stills. Its stated in the FP L manual that its only available in cine mode: "Applicable only when shooting movies with MOV 59.94p or less". There's also an icon that's displayed when its enabled.

So very interesting. Thanks.

Impressed!

Hi Emily, interesting camera. I am a fiend for small cameras and FF would be amazing. The deal breaker for me is the lack of a viewfinder. Older eyes here and not crazy about that add-on. However, I will keep it in mind. Thank you as always!

It is about the size of the lenses and hand holding ergonomics. Micro4/3s sensor is about the same size as 110 film. That is why the EM1X was crazy as large it is...

It’s interesting but I mainly use my 100-400mm lens on my OM-1. I don’t want to carry around an 800mm full frame zoom lens ever. And I’d also want the EVF so that takes away from the compactness as well. Would be cool to see something like the Sony RX100 in MFT. With the popup EVF and 200mm equivalent zoom range.

Interesting video pleased you liked the camera as I value your opinion and it is a camera I am interested in. I am obsessed with Sigma's Foveon sensored cameras and have a few DP and SD models. Sigma do a good SA to L mount adapter so I would be able to use my more modern SA lenses on it. The menu system on the FP is similar to that on the Quattro cameras as well. I live in hope that the much rumoured full frame Foveon camera will arrive in an FP body.

Fun and tiny cam. Won't be replacing my OM-1 + 40-150/2.8 setup for kayaking, hiking, or honestly 90% of my use cases. But yeah - fun and tiny.

I'm a bigger guy and find something like the OM-1, G9, or OM-5 small enough. Since I like a bigger grip and use longer lenses mostly, I like the balance still more than if I had a small FF body and their long lenses. Even the pro and PL super telephoto lenses aren't bigger than the biggest pro FF lenses (most importantly, they're still more in reach price wise). But I definitely understand for people in other genres the demand for smaller bodies. I think they will come if you have small lenses like the PL 9mm or OM 20 1.4 pro still coming out.

Nice review, its hard to explain how simple and effective the menus are (very un sony like), but you forgot to mention its weather sealed as well. Although the screen does not flip, its mounted away from the body slightly and those grills are for cooling hense its long recording time give or take the small battery. I have an fpL for stills and a fp for street and video. fp has no PD AF unlike the fpL, but its low light high ISO seems even better with quicker sensor read out.

Well... I watched through, figured "wow", this camera seems right up my alley and I love what it offers. So, I google searched buying options and tbh... pretty near crapped my pants at the price. Whoa! I see Leica's go around the same pricing. Holy smokes. Canadian pricing is mid 3k and up. I'm sad now. I will never afford such a grand little machine. Thanks for a great review though. You did good. :)

Hi, still waiting for leica 9mm and laowa 6mm lenses conparison for astro. Thanks) great video

I think it's great that Sigma pursue their own path in camera design, rather than following the herd, but the downside is that this is a very niche product. If you happen to live in that niche (like Mike Johnston) or can afford the Sigma as a second or third camera, great. For most of us though, there are more appropriate choices for a small camera. I do think that we are lucky to have so many amazing camera options these days and this Sigma definitely brings something unique to the party.

What a neat little camera! I still prefer the Sony A7c which is just a tiny bit bigger but has a built in EVF and 5 axis IBIS.

I love small cameras too and mirroless. In my job we have an Gh4, but for me its bigger. I bought an second hand Nex 5N and beside focus in low light(I regret I little to have picked atleas an 5R, but prices here was much more expensive), I love it. Its small, nice pic quality.

I have two sigma FP and a panasonic s1h for all my video needs. I love the body! I have a L mount to EF adapter that has a built in VND and i adapt old m42 lenses like the Helios 44. I can still drop it in my pocket.

very educational video, I have question, can we use ssd m2 with correct cable for sigma fp? thank you

I want to try one! With that digital crop zoom, I wonder if carrying it with an ultrawide prime would take less space than an ultrawide lens.

Excellent presentation style, fantastic video production of this review - very well lit, and the audio is great. I like this channel.

How do you you eliminate rolling shutter in photography with the fpL? Do you set the shutter to a minimum of 1/125s? A Sigma 28/2.0 DG DN i-series is missing. Then it would be a very good alternative to the Leica Q3 (5.900€).

L mount is what I want to go too. From MFT. The L mount just seems like the best move for video and photos.

Do you know if FPL focuses slower than FP due to higher MPs? And how do you find its AF overall, say compared to Lumix cameras, which model does it feel equivalent to in term of AF? Thanks!

Thanks for the review. It is an interesting concept - the core of a still/video camera to which you can add various attachments. However, when you start adding those attachments (like a viewfinder), the camera becomes heavier, bulkier, and pricier. A fairer comparison would be to add on the bits and bobs to the Sigma to give it the same capabilities as the camera you are comparing it to. Sigma makes great lenses and they have been quite innovative and unconventional with their cameras. Its great that they are sticking with it and improving on their original fp camera. However, adding a massive full frame lens to this tiny body creates something that is quite unweildy. You had to carefully pick and choose to find a lens with a size that was in keeping with the compact body.

I considered the FP-L along with Sigma's small, but good "contemporary" lenses for landscape photography, but having no EVF and no IS are both show stoppers to me. I love my GX 800, but for these reasons I almost always pick one of the OM-Ds.

Been using MFT Lumix Leica since the GX1 came out. Sigma and FujiFilm have always attracted me with their special features and weirdness. This camera is probably the most attractive beast I've seen, however, the reasonable quality auto-focus detroys its video prospects alone (for me / manual focus guys should be fine), but also it's lack of V-Log means it's not compatible with other L Mount video sessions as this creates more post production work (the enemy of Videography). I am truly amazed by its strategy of crop mode and how this maintains the quality of the system, my only concern is that this would bring one into the realm of more expensive glass over time...($$$$). I think Ill stick to my MFT system as travel with 1 camera, 4 small prime lenses is still very good (9mm, 15mm, 42.5mm f1.7, 75mm). Once there is an update with mechanical shutter, and V-Log I may well jump ship...

I understand you have already some Lumix L mount lenses because of your S5 II and Sigma FP series are the only pocket camera with this mount but I think the most confortable and full feature FF pocket camera you can have with Sony A7C series with Samyang lenses, for example 24mm 2.8 it's not only small but also light (90gr.!)

That video file size is massive, definitely a given tho. But the capabilities to that is amazing!

Love the Sigma fp. It's totally bizarre and wildly impractical for me, but for some reason I still always desire one (albeit probably just the fp rather than the fp-L) 😍 I would also really like to see a 40mm pancake lens for L-mount, it's oddly lacking compared to other mount options at the moment.

I love Sigma cameras - I just prefer the DP line with Foveon sensors. Those cameras are all together different beasts with many limitations, but when you get it right, it's unlike anything else. If money were no option, and I wanted a compact full frame camera, I'd go for a Leica M-mount (for stills) or a Sony A7C II (for stills and video). They are not as tiny as the FP-L, but they are really good cameras with at least as much to offer as the FP-L if not more.

Yes we need crop sensors (or at least I)! I recently completely switched from Sony A7IV and a lot of lenses to MFT and the OM-1, because the big zoom lenses were to heavy and big for me. If I wanted a smaller camera, I would have bought the Sony A7CII instead. The OM-1 with the 1.4 TC and the 100-400mm lense is approx. as big as my Sony with the 70-300mm was and thats insane.

Interesting review ! The non inclinable screen is a definite NO for me because I know I need it and was the main reason I left Canon when I had a 7D to switch to Sony . It's not so difficult to implement so I see this a Sigma mistake...Maybe they will consider a it for the next version ?

You need to get the Sony Cyber-shot RX1R II in this series, it’s another compact full frame beast.

That sensor is 1/10 as lovely as you are. I started with it and the Sigma 35mm f2 but quickly moved on to ENORMOUS but sharp lenses like 40mm 1.4 and zeiss Otus 85mm 1.4. Absolutely bonkers I know!

Here's a tip; get the MC21 EF adaptor then a canon 40mm pancake 2.8. Comes with image stab and great image!

I want the (not shallow) depth of field MFT gives me :) MFT is perfect for landscape or any composition were you want to "get is all in."

It’s not the bodies that make folks move away from full frame, it’s the insane size of the fast lenses and you can’t escape that. It’s just a function of physics. M43, APSC and compact full frames like the Leica Q3 will always have appeal for that reason.

Hey hope you enjoyed Liverpool! ;) have to admit that’s a slightly tempting ff…

I really wanted one of these when it came out but couldn't afford it, and wanted an evf.. thankfully Sony came out with the reasonably small a7c shortly after.

Do you know if you can sync two cameras?

Great video...My favorite mini full frame remains the Sony A7c....Cheers

mechanical shutter is only neccesary for fast moving objects like motor sport photography. Sensor stabilisatuon is only necessary with poor lighting but even then there are L mount lenses with internal stabilisation or you can use a tripod and flash.

Yes, we do. Sensor size has implications on many things with most important to me being the size of the lenses and the depth of field. Yes depth is more often important than shallowness and that explains why phones very often give more acceptable close-ups/macro than large sensors and why smaller sensors can show same or less noise by using a larger aperture whilst achieving same depth of field. It seems that the only undisputed advantage is the dynamic range, provided the two sensor compared have same pixel count. The larger will always win. (simplified, but even that is not a linear function, there is actually an optimum pixel size, beyond which the law of diminishing returns kicks in.)

I wonder if the crop mode lets you select an off-centre crop. Would give the same effect as shifting a shift (or tilt-shift) lens.

Awesome video. I'll stick with my S5. I am after a pancake lens or something smaller in the normal range. That TTartisans looks interesting! How do you rate it?

How did you find exposing the footage? I hear that you expose for the highlights and bring up the exposure in post. Are the files hard to work with for your computer?

To be fair, it looks like the ultimate replacement for X-T3 A7C/A7CII for low budget and medium production videography. Put it in a cage, get a nice T-stop prime from Meike or Soviet lenses photo and video cameras like rehoused Vega, Helios, Mir or even Industar-61 LZ, add a handle and a microphone - and you have a BEAST of a setup to film on the go. The only thing Sigma lacks is some proper software to connect in to your smartphone so you don’t need a mirror/another monitor to look at yourself. Gonna recommend it to my friends with older versions Blackmagic

Hi there,.. interesting camera indeed, Just an idea ,..im intrigued,.. how would compare olympus/pana hi res shot to this sigma ? Would be interesting a comparison ,.. cheers

Sometimes it annoys me how big my S5II is so I've been looking for a smaller option that can handle my L mount lenses. This would be perfect but the lack of a flippy screen and IBIS is really annoying. And it's pretty expensive but who knows, maybe sometime in the future I'll get it.

I had the FP and was thinking of getting the FP for a B-cam cine But I noticed two major issues with it. In long form, the internal audio drifts and becomes out of sync on 23.98 fps after about 15 min or so and I normally don't care about jello (no mechanical shutter) but the readout is just kinda bad. for L-mount cameras, the S5 series seems so much better for the money.

Full frame Sony R1 looks about the same size and that came out ages ago. What puts me off is the 61MP, file sizes are massive

IMO a better argument might be is if m4/3 is still needed (yes IMO), since many of the m4/3 bodies released today cost as much (or more) and are as big (if not bigger) than some of the APSC cameras.

GM5 is still less than half the weight (with battery!). Sensor is only 1/4 the size though. Very interesting camera the Sigma!

Just something delicious about its ambition. Tiny but HUUUGE!. I want one just so they keep doing it. I have found IBIS (especially on the latest Canons) to be more of pain when shooting video than a help and have seen cinematographers turning it off in the R5c. So Sigma might be playing the long game here. Yes I want one. Huge files, I say yum.

Curious camera from Sigma, but a bit pricey especially as I'm not already using L lens. The lack of IBIS is a pain, but could be worked around if you can afford the camera.

What was the camera you used for this video? Also the lens. I ask as I was surprise at the speed of the auto focus. Thank you.

I have to say that the lack of ibis is actually good for video. Those ibis wobbles are worse than camera shake and are only good for vloggers. You can buy the loupe and press it against your face or droop it under an atomos shogun for serious stabe … Video AF is shockingly bad on the sigma but when you get the loupe (lvf-11) or a leica lens , and an l mount Leica lens if you want to see the manual focus scale… the manual focus becomes part of the appeal with this camera, unless you mainly vlog. Also I found the internal mic to pick up electrical noise if you record to external ssd pressed against the camera body so you need to find a rig that holds it further away if using internal audio

Interesting. Did you mention file size? 60mp files must be big.

It’s not about the camera size but the lens size which can’t change due the the laws of physics.For example I use the Olympus 150-400mm which at 1000mm equivalent at f5.6 is about as big and heavy as a pro FF 70-200mm. Camera size is easy- my hand size determines the camera size that suits me.

This is my main camera - and I’ve had Sony and Leica. Yeah, the big killer is you really need the EVF and it is ridiculously expensive. I sucked it up and bought one. Actually most of the Sigma primes are superb, small and light. I just came home from France and used my Leica 35mm f2 (small snd light) plus the Sigma 90mm f2. Beautiful images. In May I was in France and just took a tiny and light Voigtlander 40mm prime. It’s actually my main video camera and whips most other systems ass in that regard.

Hi, does the design to allow for cooling compromise the weather sealing of the body itself? Thanks

if you need longer reach, crop sensor is the best way to do it (compact lens size). if you can stand using larger lenses for wider aperture lens (f/1.4), no need using crop sensor body.

I have always been tempted by full frame but IBIS not as good as M43 is always the dealbreaker.

I still like the idea of having small, compact FF body (imagine the digital version of Olympus OM1/OM2 film camera, for example). Of course, now we have Sony A7C, and this Sigma. Anyway, photography (like every other thing in the world) is about making compromise. For me, the urge of joining the medium format club is hard to resists (yep I still shoot with 6x6 and 6x7 bodies). Well, I don't mind a bit bigger body. Of course, I don't shoot video, don't do street photography on which smaller cameras are valuable, and very rarely work with long tele lens (e.g > 400mm).

interesting tech - not so fun for strobe shooters though....would be interested if that were dealt with. With a maximum sync speed for flash of 1/30 second, and if you choose the 14-bit raw mode, max sync speed drops down to 1/15 second - you better have some powerful LEDs for portrait work.

Great review, and I actually almost bought one of these, but when I saw that they were more money than an S52X, I was like, why would I buy this? I guess if you want something tiny, but the fact that I can get another S5 for about $900 now Makes this not as interesting to me. :-)

I'm a commercial Director. I use sigma FP on the Ronin Mini 3, and PD movie 3 smart follow focus. I can hold it whole day.

@6:10 fuji also give you the raw files. And can apply any film simulation to a raw files later

No mechanical shutter is kind of a big deal for photography. There is banding artifact as you mentioned, there is jello effect on fast moving subjects, you cannot use flash at all...

What Lumix camera and lens did you use for recording this video?

I think MFT and APS-C still have a place despite the availability of very small full frame. It's not just the body, it's body plus lens and how it all handles. Some MFT bodies aren't small but they are a nice size, with a good grip and balance well with telephoto lenses. I shoot wildlife and aircraft, and lenses get quite big if you want long reach in full frame. That said the Sigma is an interesting design, my criticism is the lack of a viewfinder, if you use the optional EVF it's suddenly nothing like as compact.

what do you mean with "unlike fuji, it also gives you the raw file"? Fuji allows you to get a Jpeg and raw with film simulation available on the raw.

With sony’s A7C and Nikon’s Zf, I’m hoping panasonic will come up with something as well for the compact full frame, that’s what I would really be looking forward to for the L mount. This sigma camera makes too many compromises and really, sigma’s expertise is more about lenses than bodies. I believe if panasonic gave it a shot, they wouldn’t make the same compromises as the sigma fp-l did. Even the A7C and Zf both have IBIS, articulating screens and viewfinders despite their compact size. It's features like these which are signs that the product is being made by a company that really does know how to do camera bodies.

nice video and it looks lovely. question - you mention that fuji doesn't give you the raw - what do you mean? I shoot an XT2 (old i know) and i shoot in a film simulation with a jpeg and a raw. I can then use the jpeg immediately and if i didnt get things right, i have the raw to work on. Did you mean something else and i misunderstood? Keep making videos!